Damn this just brought back memories of one of the ad-pocalypse, where tons of people got tons of videos claims overnight because of intros or outtros 😬
I have had numerous fights with RU-vid and their dirtbag ContentID folks. The worst was a video I uploaded of JFK giving a speech. Claims came in from creators who used clips from the speech in works made AFTER I uploaded my video. That, against government product not protectable anyway. I disputed on principle, then grew tired of the crap and deleted that video after my last win.
Yeah it's nonsense. It's also nonsense when music producers get claims against them for uploading beats they created. And it's nonsense when classical musicians get claims against them from record labels for performing pieces that are in the public domain
i've been binging your videos since i discovered your channel - your content is seriously top tier, incredibly valuable and educational. thank you for doing all this research and sharing it with us!!!
As an anime channel I get this a lot. I've have one get removed. I had to make a second version without video/audio. I get the claims for all of my guess the songs videos. Since I'm not monetised it doesn't bother me. The owners get their money and let me keep the videos; so I'm fine. The funniest thing is that I got a claim on one videos ending credit scroll. I just enter text in Windows Movie Maker, so I didn't use any video or audio clips. It just gave me the claim time point in the middle of my credits. :(
RU-vid should let everyone use whatever they want and then just take a cut based on amount of content used with a cap of a total a song would cost. Both parties get paid and everyone is happy.
I actually helped a lot of youtubers get past the bot by pitching songs up slowly over the course of being played. Changing speed slowly over time and changing left and right channels. They patched that detection over 2 years ago. Also i do covers for YTs that got about 20-25 million views the past year. The bot 100% can see tempo, harmony and melody. The reason why the bot cant detect super high speed stuff is because the reference window audio detection programs use get absolutely thrown off as the reference windows will barely line up. This will probably take forever to fix as a lot of audio tech is kinda dinosaur age compared to other fields.
I'm now getting copyright claimed on this song, "Jelly Time - Jelly ft. Van Dalen". It was originally copyright-free for 6+ years, and then "Jelly Yang [Not the real Jelly]" put a claim on the song, using Xelon Entertainment. I couldn't find the song on Xelon.
There are three things I'd like to see tested if possible. 1. Earrape: in RU-vid Poops, for example, they intentionally overdrive the song for effect. Can that still trigger? 2. Songs in G Major: a genre of videos on RU-vid which basically involve running the tracks through a ring modulator. 3. MIDI reproduction: If it does just use the sound wave, this'll not be detected. If something else is going on, it might. Would be interesting to find out.
All I have to do with the mobile editor I used to use was place the volume of the music at the lowest volume possible. You could still hear it as BGM, even with a relatively loud background in the actual video. Never got claimed. I really only did it because I didn't want the music that was playing on the radio to be picked up or, more importantly for me, heard by viewers.
I mentioned this in the film version of this, but I've seen some people using other musicians to do an almost identical cover of popular music, inc an awesome rendition of Immigrant Song on the Prophet of Zod channel, as an intro in an animated creationist series - a send up of the Noah story IIRC (definitely Genesis) but the guy, who we see singing, is uncanny! So far - at least last time I looked which was a couple of months after uploading - Zod's not had a copyright claim. I find this a particularly interesting situation. It was deliberately done to sound as near to the original as possible - and (again, iirc) he does the whole song. It would be interesting to look into the reason why it works.
In the past there was a guy saying if you put content where the content claimer chooses demonetisation along with content that get claimed that the demonetisation wins out so there are no ads. Can you check if this is still true?
Awesome video! As a musician, I'd find this very informative... if I wasn't from Europe. As soon as Art. 13 will begin to be enforced, this is all going to change, one way or another.
I think this answers my question. I am a producer and I put the same vocal tag on my beats ("it's Fola the Wizard of Sound"), same audio file, but tempo synced to the specific beat, and I might adjust the pitch. I was wondering if that could ever cause issues with content ID, but it's less than 6 seconds
I figured the overlapping songs wouldn't get claimed. Sometimes when I do fan art videos I'll cut clips from the show/film into my voiceover but I keep my background music going, and I've never had those get claimed. I have, however, had to fight content ID claims by Sony's music label on actual public domain computer-generated renditions of centuries-old bugle calls. Go figure.
Do you work a tech-based office job? I ask because I do, and this is more or less how we (data scientists and machine learning engineers) would tackle these type problems lol
Please do an experiment why my videos rank on RU-vid search but not in suggested and browse feature. In fact, my channel has an average 16,000 views per 48 hours, 81% of it from RU-vid Search. Please explain how videos rank on RU-vid search but not suggested. How can I get traffic from suggested recommendation? I'm watching every video you upload. You really did a great job. God bless to your channel!
I wonder if the title of your video has an affect on likeliness of a claim, maybe u can try that next? Test songs twice but name one of the tests the name of the song u play?
Maybe it also depends on the length of the video? Most of the videos that you tried were under 1 minute long. Maybe RU-vid wouldn't mind if the video was 10 minutes long and there was a 20 second clip of music from the other side of the street, which is usually what would happen in vlogs. Still, great video!
15:40 I had a song in a video I played from a remix artist that got copy right claimed. Not even by them, just by their RU-vid "Topic" channel. They even only had like 100k views on the song on their main channel.
Could you try cutting the song in half and putting another clip in the middle? Like 4s, then clip, then 4s Or have 4s of the song and then another 4s but reversed. And I know this is impossible but what if you did a cover of a song and it sounded pretty similar to the original? With similar vocals, same instruments and track, etc
What about mixing a song with a 2nd audio track that was pitched up to a very high frequency (> 15 kHz)? The human ear would hardly be able to hear it, but the algorithm might still get confused and not trigger a copyright claim. Bonus: A 3rd audio track with very low frequencies.
System scans Video Objects and Sounds and it compares one to another. Check Video Object Segmentation. This one of the reasons Thumbnails have so much references in em.
I have a question... say I have a Test channel and a Main channel, I then uploaded a Video to the Test channel just to check for any copyright claims. Then it turned out to be 100% clean. If I upload that same Video to my Main channel, would my Main channel be flagged with a copyright claim because I already used a Video that's already uploaded/existing on the Test channel?
I always thought it used something similar like Shazam for the detection but with some added rules, some songs are detected immediately but others just aren't for reasons I guess, + you can talk over it. But then again, I don't really know how they detect songs so it might be with the waveforms too.
I made a Tutorial with my own music which had licensed samples (that came with software I paid for) and got a claim. I tried looking up the song and artist but I couldn’t find them anywhere outside of that claim. Pretty weird. FYI!
• You should have tested if it catches you singing or whistling the songs yourself (i.e., a cover). •This whole thing is absolutely absurd. What's the actual point to claims? It's to prevent people from profiting from others' work, or more specifically, to make sure people benefit from their own work. Who the hell says "I love this song, but instead of buying a high-quality copy for 99¢, I'd rather listen a few seconds of a distorted, crunchy, sped-up, down-pitched, backwards, background noise version of it in the background of a RU-vid video of some kid"? 🤨 🙄 🤦. If that sort of thing happens enough to actually hurts sales, then the company needs to take a long, hard look at itself because they're doing something seriously wrong. ¬_¬ • Remember when RU-vid was a _video_ site? Now it's just another music site that suckles the scrote of the RIAA. 😒
get CMS CID upload your Fav Music ofcorse the coryright one and block the owner and boom your music video is live without claim and u can earn thousands of $$ too thats it youtube u failed to protect owner content
