PvP And WvW Are About To TAKE OFF! - July 16 Competitive Update Preview 

if these changes were in place back when I was playing with WoodenPotatoes trying to make something happen in tourneys, I think we could have kept our players motivated for way longer.

I'm not a PvPer but I love that they're refreshing their other pillars of content.

So only pvp changes are for tournaments? gg

So Anet just screwed over all those players in the OCX/SEA time zones because there is no dedicated third server grouping for that area. This issue can easily be solved by guild groups having guilds that run in those time zones instead of complaining about how all the maps are a solid color because they don't have coverage at those times.

As someone who loves pvp enough to have grinded out an entire legendary gear set from the mode...i just don't care at all about ATs... I'm a single player, i don't have the time to put a static team together and grind it for high level competition. Until they make it where i can solo queue into a match and ACTUALLY play against players approximately my level, instead of every single player online from Silver 1 to Legendary, then the mode will continue to be a miserable experience and prohibitive to new players and veteran players alike. Its not fun feeling like you have 0 ability to swing the outcome of a match, whether because you're playing with uncarryable dregs, or because youre playing againat a pair of top 10 players who are duo queued. The game mode itself is good but there's not enough people playing to make balanced match making. Give better rewards and give the option to stay in queue until players of my same rank are available. Id rather the queue NOT pop if youre gonna put me into a match thats THAT imbalanced. I have plenty of other stuff to grind in the open world that wasting 10min in an unwinnable match is literally not worth detracting from and just leads to burnout and frustration. I'm trying to productively grind pips towards my next piece and it taking 7-10 matches to complete a single chest is absurd and unbearable. I could be doing more productive things. Just leave me in queue until a proper match is filled.

I can't wait to see what they will build on this groundwork they are setting.

Try cleaning up flame rams with just 1 or 2 people. They are much harder to destroy than all other siege. And the reason I quote this example is because zergs tend to ignore cleaning up siege and repairing walls because they're all about capping these days. So it's up to roamers a lot of the time to clean up siege and repair. I do wonder if these updates will change that behavior. However, I am happy with a lot of these WvW changes. Seems like they could've done this years ago already though.

PvP are saved?? Just some AT Changes, but no changes at all for MAIN Game mode (Ranked and Unranked). The only Changes wich are huge, is the WvW Changes.

I'd love 1v1s to really practice against certain classes/builds even duels in open world would be nice

Really nice changes. Very welcomed. I agree with you.. The winner of matchups must be rewarded. I think some WvW skirmish tickets, mystic clovers & random assortments of loot will spice things up.

I dont play pvp but its cool to see them getting some love from anet!

next step: remove quickness, alacrity, aegis, stealth from wvw.

so after years of saying they dont want to punish players for playing in their respective countries time zone they just backtracked on that and basically only NA/EU matters lmao. I get its a dead game mode and all but still unfortunate for those players regardless.

Ah the beggars' feast

Seeing all the changes is really cool. I completly agree with Teapot that they are a good sign. I wanted to go into pvp for a longer time. The last time i went "tryhard" was in hot i think and now i have a big motivation to do it. Im probably not good enough for the tournaments but ill at least try it

😢 ALL downstates make them the SAME and fair. How are players to defend against big blob when wall will not rebuild until 50 percent.....seriously bad. Give some of the pugs a chance to have fun as well. I have been playing for over 10 years in wvw, and not having fun any longer in wvw.

when does this happen?

"Clear!" *zap* "Clear!" *zap* - Anet

Looks good, thanx✨️🥇✨️

for contesting just use a warclaw and damage the gate with one pull and its below 98% so real quick to do. wish they had made it 50%

I dont care at all about Victory Points and i think its the same with most of the wvw community. Actual problem is that either servers are dead or dominated completly by one server

21:45 they totally could make it dynamic. in fact that's probably the optimal setup . that way it auto-compensates for player pop shifts based the matchups and other variances

you love to see it

I think that the changes are pretty good, i feel there needs to be another stepping stone into spvp and wvw. Before we had edge of the mists that allowed pve players to have some kind of pseudo pve pvp game mode- id like to see that get revived even if its a flat pip/progress amount. And once people get baited by that, its like "oh the rewards are better in wvw, and its only a little different" type deal. They need a gateway drug to get non competitive players comfortable with competitive enviornments. Fat rewards will help certianly, but if they revived eotm i would be real coped up.

Yo those Djhinn Buff changes are actually Pog, those sound strong now

Feeding the algos!

I came back a few months ago after years I mean after POF I was out. But came back and was geeking over WvW till the update then it was Barren So I havent played since last update. Hope this can bring me back.

Hows that wvw hardcore mode working for everyone? Lol.. can’t repair walls…

The reduced supply costs also have another effect I really find interesting. If you're doing a siege then it makes it paramount with the chan ged cost to control the supply camps.

omg the CoC. 😂😂😂😂 I was listening to this while driving and when I finally processed what you said I straight up cackled out loud. the CoC 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

When they will create set of weapon completly black !!!??

I hope they fix the bug where capturing the secondary objective then win a match somehow doesn't complete the weekly challenge. At least it is bugged on djihnn's dominion

My only wish for wvw after all the functional changes are done is that they re-texture the maps. All textures and lighting are starting to look very dated in wvw. Not worried about functional changes because it seems like they have a good understanding of the state of the game and what's needed. More concern is towards balance in wvw and the constant slaughterhouse it has been because of willbenders and thief builds in general in clouds or organized small scale. There were always builds like these but current state is much much more worse than ever before.

How many more purple weapon sets do we need!!??

Wvw changes look amazing!

the people want an open world duel system

Tournaments are like the raiding of pvp. 1% of players participate in tournaments. This does nothing for the abysmal state of pvp.

Scoring in WvW doesn't matter if the rewards for being first are basically nothing. I hope they update the Tier 1 rewards to make it enticing for people to actually want to be in first place. Servers still throw matches to avoid Rallguma or to stay in a tier where the fights are balanced.

les gooooo

I wish for a wvw map that was huge or as big as desert borderland to allow players to kind of build their own bases with a new system just for it. And maybe having their destruction give out the points based on their size. Idk just something different after all these years

My issue is it doesn't " Save PvP" what would save pvp is banning multiboxing in pvp as well as sifting through player reports for known griefers and trolls selling for a win trade. This is what truly ruins pvp. Yet alone class balance issues. I think these changes in pvp are like a new Shiny Shiny distracting from what's behind the curtain 😮‍💨 but glad you mentioned it doesn't save pvp

If only weighted Victory Points had come to WvW 10 years ago when anyone gave a shit. It was suggested at the time. People were hyped for the first WvW season, people got really serious about it and really tried, but it turned out to be a joke. That mood has never come back.

I think it would be cool if the tournament of legends gave two separate titles. one you permanently unlock by having won it before. and one that's only active if you are the winner until the next legends tournament happens. so if you're a current winner you can display it

HELLOOOOOO TWITCH!

Yessss Strongholds, cmon please put in more game modes that are actually different and fun. I'm still waiting on a 2 flag CTF mode.

They need to consider adding a 30v30 or 50v50 pvp battleground map. This would also give wvw players who are playing through a dead time zone with their matchup another mass pvp gamemode.

I really wish I could get better than 450+ ms in Aussie land... I miss playing so badly.

These changes are 5 years too late(Lol you've just said the same thing as I typed this out). So while these are a good thing to see, this won't make me come back to the game. Nor all the other PvP players who have left. Honestly I don't understand what's the point investing into an absolutely dead gamemode after all this time. Because all I've seen from 2017 till 2023 was the PvP playerbase shrinking and shrinking. Basicly no new blood, only the old ones slowly dropping out... maybe there are new PvP players, who knows?

What did the people in chat mean when they said guild wars 3 releasing next Monday or something

The changes for pvp are good but it's not enough. Honestly the easiest thing they could do is give the top 4 teams in monthly a gizmo so people would compete for placement; right now it's just USA carrying someone they like to get a win and everyone else getting gatekept which kills competition

So my off hours karma train is now useless? Not cool....

The victory point update is literally the first change in the history of the game to make WvW an actual PvP gamemode instead of glorified PvE. Curious how that pans out. The target cap on offensive abilities will still only hold back the gameplay for me, clownball PvP is not very interactive and shjt.

lol that comment in the twitch chat from Gold_Magistrate about the costume Brawl 13:15

Introducing a brand new gamemode! 5v5!

I love that anet is starting to do changes in PvP again, buuuuuuuuuuuut if they really want to revive pvp and bring gamers in to play they have to change the System and Leaderboards. Move Leaderboards to AT's let Mat's and weeklys give points and maybe daily AT wins/second places a bit. Hide Rating in Ranked, give the players a badge that they at least can feel where they stand and enable 1-5Q. This enables Teams to practice way easier against Teams on a similar level than getting farmed in Daily AT. On the flip side tryhards will not exlusivly play as a 5 man squad, since they don't have to tryhard (or Wintrade) for Rank 1 because there is no Leaderboard, just a Badge, they will stop playing stack when they reach legend OR they Probably Qsnipe each other because they finaly can get decent matches in an easy way. They could stop the endless Soft reset chinnanigans that brings Silvers and plats the first 2 weeks in the same matches (because there are on at the same MMR). They could easily let they rating just stay and remove the badge after 2 weeks and decrease the hidden rating after 1 month by 100/150/200. maybe bring on top 2vs2/3vs3 (and maybe 1vs1) as Late Night-Morning hours AT's, merge Unranked and Ranked and give 2vs2/3vs3/stronghold? a second q with Daily/weekly changing we need to make creating teams as accessible and entry lvl as possible. if a group 5 new players want to rank in together they find out after a few probably frustrating hours of unranked that they only can solo/duoq and than get farmed by the usual AT gang, they will quit immediately.

Virgin Basement Troll: "nooooooo why is anet giving attention to content I personally don't play" Sigma Giga Chad: "I don't care what mode I personally play, a win for any game mode is a win for the community."

ait very cool, they still didn't fix the biggest problem with pvp as to why no one is playing it cya next pvp patch ig

If they want more people playing ranked PvP, they could create a special reward track limited to ranked that gives you the Gift of Battle. Even if you need to finish it 4 times to get it. I think that would improve PvP and remove leechers from WvW

Performance updates are all I give a flying F about

I mean the WR in EU is making people quit still, so if they do not get it right next time and also remove the tier 6 in EU then we are in deepshit. How ever i am not gonna be the person that only make angry posts, because some of the changes they are adding is actually good and by the look of it defense might be back. The not contesting unless wall/gate is 98% is such a welcome change. Well except maybe not for the guy on Augry Rock who dedicated 12 years to contest Garrison, he might be sad, but the rest of us will finally not have to run and check on keeps and towers hundred times a day. For me personally i can finally focus on what is fun. Running to check never was. So thumbs up on that one. I wish they would put back that capcircles because it reeally nerfed fights in keeps like Garri, Bay and hills that was already rough. Not to mention Earth keep, the keep that is the dumbest keep of them all that favour attackers by putting up the earth barriers in the ground that we who owns it are not able to go through and at points we loose it because of being stopped to contest. And many of the times you get stuck in them as well. Anyway that is something else. The try and making night/superearly morning caps against a empty borders slower pointwise is fantastic. Why this took so long i have no clue, but now it is here and i think most of us wvw players are happy about that one. Thumbs up! The ewp and having several up is actually brilliant and more so in red border where everything is horrible. Either way i like that alot. Not that is really bad is the low cost to normal ac. NOONE is using the normal siege and those that are is instantly getting told off because normal siege is horrible and do so little damage compared to superior. It just is waste of supplies and i can see a lot of anger over this because the cost of the gates are so expensive now and anyone and their goldfish is going to make normal siege and that is bad. Imo remove nomral siege and make normal superiors and guild siege the better option but more expensive. Please dont make normal siege a favor it will be a lot of shit thrown at new players who dont even know this. That was really one of the things i thought was a bad choice. So i am a bit more postive and i might play a bit more after they made new servers since in EU it really is so unballanced and i just hope they understand how bad it is in EU and really make the extra mile of fixing that and removing tier 6 so that we can finally see if Worldrestruction really is a good thing or not. Edit: I forgot to add i want tournaments. to get veterans to play then it is not because fancy loot, we play the game mode because of the game mode. So add tournaments so that we get somethign to do and look forward too! That will get WvW players to come back and wanting to win. Loot is not gonna really change this feeling.

"Setting the groundwork" yet again! Woo! Three to five years too late, but woo, amazing, incredible hype!........ for the unfortunate 15 veterans that are left and clueless noobies that will eat it up.

They need to remove 2 WvW tiers

Really enyoy Spvp but everyone plays Necromancer or Elemantalist.. more balance to all classes would be nice!

More like a decade too late, pvp needed new maps often, more balance, more modes... Pvp could of been incredible but for some reason they abandoned it

Easiest change ever: “players cannot gain boons in wvw” Try it for a week and see. At the very least it would be a fun week.

ah yes, kneejerk changes which alter fundamental wvw systems, surely this will help retain the playerbase that's upset with how WR fundamentally changed wvw. jesus christ. really helpful for new players too im sure.

more motivation for win traders to get tournament gold . Anet does not understand without building a PVP community u cant build teams. there are no communication tools in game u need do all external

still I'd wish they also do 1v1 pvp... like come one, we got loads of ppl doing duelling all day every day in WVW, we got loads of ppl doing duelling in the pvp lobby, we got loads of ppl duelling in armistice bastion and in guild halls.. BUT, thou shall not gain ANY rewards from doing it. I'd play a lot of pvp if I could do 1v1 ranked

Probably an unpopolar opinion, but i think that changing WvW to increase competitivenss and winning rewards is going to be the doom of the gamemode in the long run. One of the things that attract population to WvW is that, akin to open world, the mode is pretty casual. You can roam or you can join a zerg whenever you want, and if you don't perform super well there are no real concequences on yourself or your world. But the moment you make winning matter 2 things happens: 1) People become more toxic because now if you don't perform super well it has concequences 2) It will push away casual players because in an envyroment where the aim is to win, the casual mindset is not welcome. This will lead the population to get smaller and smaller over time, just like what happend to PvP. It will also increase hostility even more towards the people that are there just to get a gift of battle, which are already not welcomed in the mode now. Gw2 isn't LoL, the vast majority of Gw2 players don't have a competitive mindset and the more Anet pushes in that direction the more those gamemodes will end up being played just by a small niche, like PvP is.

3 rangers can clear all siege inside a keep or tower. Also, without nerfing cele gear the game mode will continue to fall apart.

Pretty sure nothing is gonna change in terms of population in those game modes.. lol None of these changes encourage people to go and do them. Thankfully WvW has Gift of battle.. but pvp ..eh

si estos cambio se hubieran implementado 11 años atras

Making WvW suck more... thank you Anet for trying to kill PvP and WvW...

wvw victory pts scheduling is dumb. they shouldve just linked the victory pts with how much pop their enemies are. playing against high pop? higher victory pts. lower pop enemy? lower pts. i thought wvw is there to be a 24/7 game mode. theyre just making wvw more dead at times when ocx/sea players have the time to play and more queued at times when its already congested. how annoying.

conquest as a gamemode is currently a failure due to powercreep, it has little to do with previous iterations of gw2 pvp or mmo pvp in general, combatwise it's just a worse rendition of league of legends in every way. if there is interest in those 3v3 monthlies i would abandon conquest and focus on these, faster qs and easier entry for new players = people more likely to come back. to fix conquest is to turn around the whole damage balancing philosophy of the game so that's not happening.

paid actor and his clowns

Chages Ive noticed. Huge zergs. and lag from hell. Cant even play

Did Anet fixed the problem with WvW hackers/cheaters or not?

It would mean a lot if they could make PvP good, balanced, and fun, but as it stands it's awful, and it seems terrible to even have a ranked pvp mode.

Focussign on tournament sis bullshit!!!! PVP has been neglcted for years and eveyrone know that tournamzets are bullshit and are always won by cheaters!!!! We want new maps! We want new game modes like 3v3 on permanet basis not just eveyr few months!!

Who ordered the extra large Copium? These changes to WvW are straight garbage. Anet destroyed the mode and it's going down in flames.

Are they ever going to fix pvp and wvw from hacking/ hackers??? Lol nothing ever seems to be done

Anet pls balance out the cancer roamers. Good changes...

Well for WvW two things can happen. Either the people who organized the more populated servers either come back and this becomes successful or the current players will stare at each other and see if they know anyone who has ever left spawn without a tag and just give up and it fails. I've even seen those Vip people all standing at siege razor and yelling at him to move out not knowing its really a npc and not a player. So that is your state of wvw now good luck lol :)

Trebs are slow. Only good if you have nothing to do and set up in a fortification.

Nice changes for those running into walls till prime time and/or very skilled players. Getting to tag on the other side of the map will be almost impossible for average players cause of your prize tag on your hat. Keeping up participation is gone. Queue will go up from 2 to 3 digit numbers. When the tag is on lord, getting there, siege will be gone, gates closed. Killing a guard won't work. Hardly played wvw, while that was my place to go any time. Queue's, hours of waiting, no tags. Just a handfull of active players while passing those running into walls for hours on end. Arenanet really knows how to KILL, a gamemode that is.

copium \o/

The potencial e-Sports for PvP is limitless!

more changes to cater to the hardcore minority, which will harm the casual or new player experience in wvw. Just delete the mode already and make a gvg system that only allows existing big guilds to play as thats clearly what Anet are going for here. I cant think of a set of worse changes with this and the restructuring , for the long term health of the gamemode.

Guild Wars 2 is DEAD