Your content has been super helpful to me lately, not been able to play so much so keeping up to date for everything ready for new season has been super helpful. Thanks and great videos
@@jasonmendoza2044I mean he has a point, I don’t think half the classes should be “s” tier. Besides if we just move the tiers down it makes more sense, god tier is “s” s is a a is b etc. ig he didn’t want an f tier
@@SIIKAP1 wdym nothing hits that hard, lilhomies running around at mach speed tossing out hammers from ouagadoogoo dealing more damage than a marksman hunter at max range
Holy shit. I am so pumped to see Fury Warrior on top for once. It's one of my favorite melees and I hated that I was forced into arms for so many tiers.
Love your content. One some-what interesting (at least for me) would be hearing what the FOTM racials are after every major patch/rework cycle. As certain classes get CC nerfed or have mobility restrictions, it would be fun to hear if anything wacky appears for certain comps (I think back to volpera when demo locks were very strong back in shadowlands for a month or so....). Maybe it would be lame though :D
What pairs best with frost mage for 2v2 and 3v3 right now? My friend is trying to get me back into the game again after not playing since cataclysm. He plays frost mage. Im leaning towards affliction warlock, or resto druid , or rogue maybe.
Don't forget that Priest (all of them) have "Body and Soul" which when weaving between "Angelic Feather" can keep me at 40% increased movement speed for a looooooong time. Also consider, that "Leap of Faith" can be used defensively to an extent, bringing for example a friendly DK closer to us. And lastly, as a Void Elf, I have a short range teleport on a 3 minute cool down in "Spatial Rift". Oh, and we have (if we take the Talent) "Void Volley" every 2 minutes potentially, and with Archon Hero talents also get A Second Psychic Scream after 4 seconds for free. What am I missing now... Oh Fade can be very helpful with Phase Shift which is every 20 seconds. DON'T SLEEP ON SP!!
I think enhance shaman is flying under the radar. With its insane healing and burst windows with Tempest its alot of fun and combined with its utility, it will truly shine in arenas. It was said here first!
Guys you think it is hard to learn rogue especially assasin? I always think about finally playing rogue. i try it a few times and quickly left because it feels overwhelming smh
I felt like that for ages, I played ww but always wanted to play rogue. I made the switch in DF and went all out sub and assa. I promise you best decision I ever made, I managed to get 2.7cr in shuffle (49 on ladder) and 2.4 in 2s last ssn. Was way worth putting the time into a spec that in my opinion is capable of much more (once you’re good at it that separates you from other people). I’d say start with assa but don’t be afraid to try the others once you’re comfortable. I would also recommend trying out an addon called ‘Framesort’ i made healer specific macros on my kidney blind kick etc and it transformed my gameplay. - hope this helps :)
The skill floor of rogue is pretty low, aka you can learn pretty fast to get good at it (I say this as an average pvper that did try it). Rogue gets hard when you try to use all it's potential (aka skill ceiling). The result is that as a beginner rogue, you'll be able to do good in BG and even arena pretty fast, but you'll get dumpstered by better rogues in 1v1/skirmish situations
@@George-iy5lq this is funny because i am a monk main. Okay guys you inspired me to give rogue a real try. Could you maybe give me a quick insight on how i should play the class and what my role is in arena and bg? Do i CC healer, defend base, or pick isolated players? Also could you recommend a channel or place for guides?
Definitely do a tournament tier list too please! It would be good to see how the the specs perform at the pinnacle of performance once you hit the ceiling in regards to learning how to play them at the highest level. The "Mastery/Tournament Tier List"!
@@Jonas.Sargentplus that type of list is more based off of synergies and meta, leaving a ton of specs excluded due to little oddities. Would be fun to see him do one but it’s nowhere near necessary for me lol
@@jasonmendoza2044after watching pikaboo who is now playing every spec out there, I realized that it’s not the class, or my UI or my class knowledge that I am not 2.4k raiting 😅. He basically has no clue about 50% of the classes he logs on to, fucks ab rotations, misses to used main CD aaaaaand still plays 6-0 at 2.4+ It’s game awareness. Knowing when a win condition appears and then acting on it.
Whilst Supatease sometimes gives me a headache whilst casting, this is how a tier list should be presented; despite the fact you always take them with a grain of salt because experiences are so subjective, we don't know how the skill disparity will be across the mmr range in blitz, some classes average out better across all pvp content than others, some are just shit everywhere except in a singular environment where they are very good (which atm, is most casters); but this tier list covers the AVERAGE PvP player who does a bit of everything at an average/slightly above average level. Also yep, Balance is still good in BG environments but outside of CDs and anywhere it can't cast - absolute beans. Does no damage and once you've exhausted barkskin and peels you are free honor points. I hold the hottest of takes here that it should either get access to survival instincts which would give it some respite without being super gamebreaking because moonkin form is still made of paper; but it needs a reliable way to protect its non instant casts. However, it should not get both, either better mitigation/survivability or interrupt protection. Having two solutions to a class' issue in PvP and just giving them both would be a very Square Enix thing to do. Although worth mentioninmg as well, Feral being agility scales very well with early game gear; balance doesn't. It could very well be the case when Balance has access to more haste/vers, it becomes out of control.
It refers to aoeing the node so the opposing team can't cap until backup comes from your team. Think of Arathi Basin for example, spinning BS would mean aoeing around the flag so the opposing team can't cap. I'm terrible at explaining things but I hope that helps.
@@gabemaurer4969spinning is such a weird term to describe that lol I thought he meant like “spin” the base or a fight well (as in capping or turning a fight) at least I know now lol
As usual, Holy priest has been the biggest sleeper spec. Archon is outputting massive hps and damage in battlegrounds. Oracle has decent tech as well but archon hpriest is out damaging some dps specs
Do you guys think That in a Near future it will be possible to Play Preservation without dragonform? Like the Balance druid glyph. Love the class, Hate the style xD
At the risk of exposing my spec, Archon Shadow Priest is absolutely nuts. Press Stun, Power Infusion, Void Eruption, Halo, then Spam fast Mind Flay Insanity Procs. You will literally melt a target faster than anything else currently in the game
If you can pull that off, then yeah for sure it’s amazing burst. Unfortunately it’s not instant-cast burst and it’s all on the same school of magic. I think on coordinated/experienced teams SP is gonna be amazing. But finding the window to hard cast could be difficult. Regardless, it’ll demand a lot of respect, and the surge of insanity procs last a really long time so it’s pretty flexible too
@@bscheur7412 Another major key to this formula is to take the talents that allow Mind Flay to increase the damage your dots do and the talent that increases the critical strike chance of Mind Flay. But you are right. My testing so far is only in BG settings. But I absolutely crush everyone. Top dps, top killing blows and the most healing of any non healer every game without fail. In arena it likely will be difficult to get off all your casts. Keep eyes out for buffs to Shadow. Anything like an instant cast Void Eruption coming back will be monumental for Spriest in TWW!
Putting destro in A tier should honestly be a crime. Full honor gear I can spam damage on a pvp dummy and average like 600k with chaos bolts, maybe get 1 or 2 every five minutes to hit 1 mil. My ret isn't even 540ilvl and I can do 1.8mil hammers with back to back 500k-600k instants. My WW strike of the windlord has crit upwards of 800k back to back. My frost mage... Well let's not talk about that abomination, ice lances doing 1 mil+ per button press back to back shouldn't have made it out of beta. Edit: Not to mention the Ferals walking around doing 2.5mil ferocious bites back to back to back.
Finally he has ret in the correct spot. High B. Its about time. I hope he and other streamers like venruki are happy Ret is just a freaking paper right now...
Is shadow priest really that hard? Besides some button bloat, the damage seems straight forward.. I am glad to hear that our damage is formidable and cannot wait to try the new hero talents out!
it's the same as outlaw rogue: when you are under pressure and with the responsability of doing control, survive and doing damage, you really start to feel the button bloat
I just can’t fathom frost mage doing more damage than fire like what’s the point of fire or arcane then 😂 frost clearly has the most cc so it shouldn’t be doing the most damage makes no sense to me
Which caster would be the most beginner friendly? I am starting out on wow and its also my first mmo rpg. I am still clueless about the rotation battle system.
@@fionaburns4210 Right Im aware. I'm saying with how much Holy can pump in pve they must be able to bring some of that into pvp. But As I don't go deep into pvp I cant say definitively.
@@drummerguy438 Vulnerable to cc in melee range, bad damage and dont have the utility of sham druid or pres. throughput largely hasnt made up for it so far holy is struggling a few expacs now
@@thatherton He’ll be like yea that’s A tier ehh well maybe i’ll put it at B tier. I’d assume if the research was done, then the locations of the specs would be more decisive.
I think that resto Druid outperforms preservation on flag carrier maps heavily enough that I think it eclipses the S tier on this list. Gets dumpstered by pres in arena, though.
And boomy is a b teir. While yes elune of chose makes are starfire and and furry of elune better and with chosing umbrol embrace is great for dots but we suck compared to all casters. And I'm top 100
for the ones we can play it right? sure, for the average rogue? nah, specially with all those casters being insanely broken atm (frost mage, affli lock, shadow priest, etc.)
Enhance shaman being c tier is the reason I’m not buying the game. Annoying as hell how ignored they are. SOD has enhance shaman the way they’re supposed to be.
