Q+A’s finance debate: Nicola Willis vs Grant Robertson | Q+A 2023 

It’s Nationals main aim lol “ Labour builds, National sells”

Great comment, totally can agree with you to the point of " is that ment for home owners" because as a renter I'm working to live on a weekly basis.

By 2044. Some context here.

Scratching over everyone she is. They didn't have their budget ready when overseas voting started. Unbelievable. Please start talking over the fact the Super age will go up to 67. So everyone can work 2 years more. Fantastic for many😊😮

yeap

I agree to a certain extent, however labour has pissed a lot of NZers off during Jacinda reign.

Would someone gag Nicola Willis

Go the ACT PARTY

Act Party are Idiots @@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj​

​@@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj yes indeed, they should go tf away!

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Who gives a crap.

Same products you enjoy importing across the oceans adding a paltry 4% to the harmless natural CO2 that makes CO2 absorbing trees grow faster.

So how much co2 is in the atmosphere vs oxygen?

​@@rod-contracts1616we only have so many trees sucking up smog.

why?

Why not?

No, it means that people are struggling and are concerned with their own families wellbeing. My problem with the left is equality is achieved by dragging people down, not lifting people up.

agree

I'm self sufficient through hard work and discipline, without a whisper of shame. I pay more tax that average, plenty more.

THOUSANDS live in poverty and do NOT commit crime, this is an excuse. Family life, what the parents teach, manners, thoughtfulness, self reliance, no ,they don't, nanny state attitude and blame someone else.

I had a friend at school whose father was s drunk, both he AND his brother went to university, NOT prison. I was a prison officer for twenty five years, ask those more in the know, not dork brain psychologists, social workers etc.

These are the finace ministers from the two major parties. This video should be the reason red and blue voters should shift to an alternative minor party of their choice.

Sorry but labour have sewed this county and that’s why they are going to lose. Nats will win by a landslide. Stop living in the past as if that’s your argument re the last national govt failure then why should labour get another chance after this calamity

Great way to waste your vote.

@@davebevin No 'vote' is wasted . How do you define 'waste' in this case ? vote gone into vacuum or vote gone to the lost party ? I guess no shame or wastage in going and expressing yourselves. Foreign buyer ban lifting is just another encouragement for housing ponzi and selling land to foreigners. National is nicely hiding this under 'revenue' generation

Foreign buyers buy property all over the world. We banned them but that didn’t make a huge difference to the first home buyer market. So let’s just stop the false panic and pearl clutching. What we need is a bigger supply of housing, and an easier consent process (like David Seymour says) to get things moving. Voting TOP won’t achieve that. (Though I like what I’ve seen of Raf Manji). If the high end market gets us some extra revenue it can only help with the bottom line right now. It can always be tweaked later to increase the threshold to maybe $3Mil + which is where I personally think the line should be.

Immigration should be limited to a fraction of the number of newly built homes 🏡

​@davebevin it's a waste to vote Labour or National. They're almost guaranteed to not do what they say they will. Vote minor parties to keep the major 2 to account. Minor parties time and time again are deciding elections so absolutely not a waste.

What does he have to hold up? Just abject failure for years. Sit down. Labour Out can’t wait.

Nicola was an embarrassment.

Here here!

Totally 👍 It's typical national: rich get richer, poor get poorer 😢 They've never cared about the "bottom feeders" as luxon 'affectionately' calls them. Two ticks Labour! ❤

PREFU - pre election fiscal update

If you really believe that, you are as thick as two short planks.

yeah they do they dictate your options

Bull Dust... 😂😂🤣🤣

How can you say they are being more realistic when they have failed on their own policies? They are the worst govt ever. Agree Nats don’t look flash. Seymour has a well thought out plan.

Whatever the Nats are or are not, doesn’t change the fact that Labour have been utterly hopeless. I’ll never look in their direction again. Im done.

@@MandySam13 Well done.Dont tell Grant or Chippy.We dont want another term of the coalition of chaos with Labour,Green Party and Maori Party.What a cluster.They have created a huge mess now.We need another mother of all budgets to cut back all the wasteful spending.

It's like tpp eh. Why are we allowing too big to fail types lend us money when they get theirs from QE

Oh and he is? Look at the stage of the economy, he’s wrecked it. Labour out October

Red vs blue is broken. Need a 3rd party broker to break the stagnation to get some new ideas thru.

Why dont all us kiwis come together and form our own government ?lol

@@Badest187 lol thats what we're supposed to have in there already! 😆

Is that why labour need to borrow another $35b……..more than was budgeted for 9 months ago… Whatever.l.

Your last paragraph makes no sense unless you mean you prefer to stick with the nightmare you accept Labour made........because you 'think' someone else might have done worse. BTW Labour had "the luxury of being out of power" for 9 years before 2017 and were scrambling when Winston gave them the win because they had not used their time well in opposition and needed countless consultants etc to bring them up to date which is why so many grandiose promises never happened

Gotta keep on track somehow. If you can't handle the heat...Nicola is doing a great job

​@@cameronlabone6050buhahaha keep the jokes coming lol 😂

@@cameronlabone6050 screeching while getting owned by Grant.... Get her some burn cream.

I thought she did well. She has to work double hard to be heard. And no I’m not voting national

I know right

That is straight up censorship bro dummy

Right and your a genius who perfectly understands the economy and can fix the whole worlds problems

@@willlhutchinson no im not. i didnt say that.

BECAUSE, hes atleast transparent. and he knows if the nats win, its going to be like Liz Truss all over again.

He cant

You’re speaking sense but remember these politicians keep all the lie pie to themselves.

You'd prefer Grant eat it all while decorating parliment with our tax dollars ?

@@Deadnvrsleephe saved us from a recession during a pandemic so yes

She will roll Luxon you watch . And that will be disastrous just as it was when ardern took the helm .

@@Deadnvrsleep Grant is a gone burger.And he knows it.

@@deanwitt7903 I dont think so.Nicola has got balls.

Cause she can't.😂

For such a minor subsidy in the scheme of things if people are worried about a complicating a already overcomplicated tax system why don't people who are worried about saving $10-20 on the veggie shop should just grow their own gardens and save 100% on their fresh produce bill. The rest of us would like something tangiable for a change apart from inflation. Oh yeah we are demographically heading toward the 3rd world. Seymour says it pretty well summed up

@@cameronlabone6050we are no where near heading for a third world, and my guess is if you knew what that looked like you’d delete your comment. As for David, that summed you up and your comment well.

That policy is not as easy to implement as they pretend and there is NO guarantee that savings will go to the end consumer. Grant himself didn't back the policy and their revenue minister resigned his portfolio because Chippy rejected wealth tax, and backed this policy which he didn't support. He pushed this GST policy against his own minister's advice. Nicola doesn't have to try hard to "poke holes" in it. It's obvious the policy is not worth it.

Ah bad guess dude. I have lived and worked in 3rd world countries albeit being paid 1st world money to do so, doesn't matter about what's going on overseas, we could be doing better than we are. After 75years of western dominance time for a new colonial age...clearly Red vs blue is broken across the old empire they know it hence they're trying to pass the hot potato to new ideas to blame while there is a transition. keeping bare legacies in tact. We are heading towards poor retirements meaning 3rd world medical standards and housing for those that don't prepare adequately at this Rate of demographic and cultural economic stagnation (inflation higher than GDP (if thats not decline what is?). Something on all fronts needs to change, crime/education etc 10years bubbles blown no adjustments obvious. Anyway it's late. We need a 3rd pillar to question/rebuild integrity of neptist red vs blue. $50 to do what $20 used to do and wages havent kept up is the norm over 5 years ago. We are all poorer whether you feel it or not depends on individual circumstances. My partner and I battled to get our first home. On historical trends it's 400% more than it should be since it was built in 2003, oh how it was sold 5 times in 20years and the price from the specilation jumping as it has. After being scammed the way i have... you have your point of view I have mine. Enjoy what's left of our red vs blue fiat democracy as we slide into facism cronieism like Russia did after the USSR pulled back. USSA keeps raising its debt ceiling...QE15 now is it? It's starting to hyper inflate... How much more of it can the world take.

What about act? Take the keys off both... get a taxi to do the driving. The taxi driver has seen it all...

​​@@cameronlabone6050ACT is for the wealthy not the rest of us they use race as a talking point which is BS

You’re kidding right? This Govt has wasted billions on ideological propaganda which they never campaigned on. Look at where we rank by the IMF and in the OECD. This disaster is all on Grant and his government. Nz is broke and the left can’t fix that.

Labour are only good at driving this economy off a cliff. Wasted as much money as possible, mostly setting up bureaucracies and paying spin doctors, bribing media etc. It's clear the comment section is full of their shills still acting like this incompetent lot has actually got much right? Every metric is worse than when they took over. If you want gangs running this country then vote for this lot. What a shame some people can't see beyond their blind faith in a party.

Alright Michael time for your glass of ovaltine and off to bed old man

@@yahmom626sorry but he’s speaking sense. Keep your ageism ad hominem and out it where the sun don’t shine. I’m so sick of you lot and your slurs as that’s all you have. Not long to wait now until labour implode at the polls. Can’t wait. Labour OUT.

You’ll be the only one.

@@FsrjtyttzmaNah I’m voting Labour too

It’s a foregone conclusion. Labour are finished.

It’s going to get worse for them regardless. The country is out of money and the better educated or higher skilled earners will leave reducing the tax take to spend topping up the lower earners.

If this lot comes back you can hope that low and middle-income earners work more hours to contribute tax for the govt to keep wasting. Because the higher earners will take their skills overseas & their TAX dollars that everyone loves to spend like it's theirs. Who wants to keep paying taxes just to see things get worse?

or she is delusional

She was amazing. We have all had to make do with the best labour could offer which has been disastrous being that slob. The only embarrassing thing will be your party and the drubbing at the polls Labour Out

@@FsrjtyttzmaSimp

Yes they are stupid and the last six years of not only voting ardern into power but following her crazy rhetorical nonsense proves it . The intelligent people of New Zealand went to protest at parliament to fight for their rights .

Poor west side havelock cuz😅😮

Jack is pretty equal this is one off I guess

You noticed that too ? He made it difficult to watch , so unprofessional

No they won't. Chinese know the market they are buying in very well. If they are not worth that, they buy property under the $2m and add capital through renovation to increase the value. They aren't stupid.

This country has been sold off enough and people are having a really difficult time. I don’t understand why anyone would support a gvt which will stomp on the vulnerable, sell off even more of NZ and is every bit as woke as Labour. Honestly

Chinese invasion dude

Not to mention rent increases. Don't vote for change just for the sake of it.

The current economic numbers are driven by immigration and tourism. Don't we already rely on "foreigners".

Hope you don’t think Nichola would be a good replacement, her policies will increase house prices, increase rents, and she can’t seem to add up. All she does is criticise and when asked for solutions her solutions are the problem worse, and she can’t see that.

@@dave24-73 cry harder

@@papastallion understand the numbers for example Sell existing houses to overseas buyers (net result = more increases for house prices, increase in rates, increase in rentals). This is basic supply and demand, it also remove supply and increases demand, it also won’t generate enough revenue to offset your potential $20 a week tax cut. You may dislike the current government, but this finance minister Nichola doesn’t understand the basics.

@@dave24-73 understand deez nuts

What a Knob dude

Didn’t she offer to?

The men didn't say they would

@@dan8317 never the less they have under delivered as a gouvernment in many ways

Agree. Never saw them ask that of the left wing parties or hammer them for their coatings on anything. Contrast this interview with how little intelligent strategy or knowledge that Jacinda was ever asked. They knew she was incompetent and could only answer in word salad.

She offered to resign if she was finance minister and she isn't even guaranteed to be finance minister if National get in. Quite an empty gesture really, sensationalism seems like a National tactic this election.

Very true..

@@dallasfrost1996 Yep your a pig too dude

@@dallasfrost1996 Yep very true

Not all change is good. National will sell this country out and are clearly poor economic managers in their current iteration

AS A maori i would like to know how it get better for me, or you being a racist idiot?

YOU SHOULD EAT YOUR HAT! have you seen the unemployement rate? and second because of low rates during covid smart business didnt fail they grew and expanded their businesses. they are the ones demanding immigration because thats the only way they can hvae their businesses running. lastly immigratants are the ones paying for our country to run, if you cut them off you will see significant amount of business failing...due to lack of employees and profit. Exactly what the nats did in 2015 fyi. And fyi the natsplan on getting more immagratation than labour. :P

And National are going to help regarding house prices, 😂😂

@@michelledavies2197 National will never come close to matching the nearly 30% average house price increase in one year under Grant Robertson and Comrade Ardern. Not by half. But yes National should cut immigration but they too are too timid. Hot off the press, average NZ rents up 6.9% in a year. That's under Labour.

Rubbish

no way. Nicola was the best

Bro did not watch the video 😂

We're all on the same team! 😂 no wonder we have a productivity issue 😂

He didn’t

Found the misogynist who was only vaguely listening. Knew there’d be one

I thought Nicola did well. Grant sounds so arrogant has no shame for all the money wasting on issues they never campaigned on and have delivered shite.

You obviously have no objectivity. I expected Grant to easily win this debate, but he was schooled by Nicola. Her performance was better than expected.

I personally thought he’s a track proven loser ref the economy. Labour OUT October Can’t wait

Your caps lock is on boomer!

Read your facts! If there are tax cuts means things will get more expense too.

To pay other people for their jobs To improve the country, so its not going into their own pocket. So if it costs me $25/ a fortnight being a middle incoem person, absolute yes! Compared to $25/fortnight....in exchange of an economy failing under national. Because they aren't showing number! Tax cuts right now around the world has actually shown to HURT the ecconomy, just ask Liz Truss former UK PM...and we have a higer aged population than Sweden, read your facts!