When you said "... dead cat..." while holding the pelican case, I chuckled because the thought that came to mind was Schrödinger's cat... you had the answer in your case...
Worth noting with the meat target that he is just trying to show a reasonable example of projectile performance in the mediums you'd expect for a given target and that Paul is making a subjective assessment based on his years of real world experience.. It's not scientific but is a reasonable methodical substitute for non laboratory conditions where he is often just assessing how well it will kill or penetrate a thing.. Generic ballistic gels are largely pointless and he can't exactly tie down and shoot various living animals/people for bullet testing, so the meat target is a "reasonable" alternative for the sake of his demonstrations. However, we should clearly be covering all soldiers in two layers of t-shirt in the front, two layers of t-shirt in the back, and about 50 layers of the new and improved high-tech fleece bullet stop.
@@MindlessWanderings It may not be a scientific test, but when he made his 'Bull Moose Target' to reenact the Teddy Roosevelt assassination attempt, the damage to the target almost exactly matched his reported injuries. It's a fun test to watch too, which of course is half the point.
@@jic1 Yeah, I didn't say it wasn't good. I'm merely reminding people that however good or bad it may be he isn't trying to be scientifically perfect, it is a practical demonstrative. (It's not clinical data, it is a reasonable real world substitute.)
@@MindlessWanderings You misunderstand my comment, I was praising Paul and the meat target. *Edit:* Actually, I misunderstood your comment - I read 'was' where you wrote "wasn't".
@@Agentporpoise Although .30 super carry has its merits, I'm not a big fan of it, because I think the idea of a 5.7x28mm necked up to 7.35mm would be better, due to the fact that basically there are already magazines and weapons developed for this caliber, just change the barrel (something similar to .300blk), in addition to the fact that the great advantage that I see in a .30 caliber pistol cartridge is the versatility of it being able to be used both in a pistol and in a rifle (and at rifle speeds in a larger barrel). Even more so due to the format of the 5.7x28mm ammo, I believe that it would be possible to build a lighter bullet (something around 65 gr) and this type of ammunition would be interesting to be used in a rifle (to reach rifle speeds), but a proper pistol bullet would have a different shape giving it more volume and consequently more mass so it could perform decently when fired from a handgun (avoiding the suboptimal performance of 5.7x28mm when fired from a handgun).
I thing the biggest thing for this is all of his contracts. He may not know the answer to a question, but he is on first-name basis with a guy that does.
If you consider the fact the other one was for an ad campaign and a completely manufactured image. I'd say Ian is the most interesting man in the world.
I love it when you bring in other people with expertize when you are unsure about the subject, its amazing to see the QA evolve. Keep up the amazing work!
As I understand it: The BESA was only adopted in 8mm because the British bought, shipped over, set up and ran the entire factory. The British saw WW2 on the horizon and decided that they needed the machine guns NOW. It was decided that modifying the BESA to use .303 would take too long, and they were better off just taking the logistical hit. Bear in mind that converting the BESA to .303 would involve converting all the measurements (and thus the machining) from metric to imperial measurements, making the process longer, more expensive (and crucially, I hazard, more disruptive to production) than it usually would be. To conclude, the BESA being in 8mm was not indicative of a wider British admiration for the cartridge. It was, instead, a compromise made in the name of more prompt production.
Also, the BESA was only used by the Royal Armoured Corps, which had their own logistical support, I believe. Not sure how vehicles like the Churchill AVRE were handled, since they were manned by Royal Engineers crew, but it would make sense to have the RAC handle logistics for POL, spare parts and ammunition.
@@Zajuts149 If they did have their own dedicated logistics, they still had the issue of having machine guns chambered in 8mm, .303, and (I believe) .30-06.
@@jic1 Indeed, though the .303 were not as much used, and at least the other two cartridges were mostly not used both by the same unit. The exception would be Cromwell units that had Fireflies.
The Royal Armoured Corps ended up using 8mm Mauser in the BESA, .30-06 in the Brownings of their Shermans and other US made vehicles, and .303 for small arms used by sentries etc.
Kilmartin is a nice little village, stopped at a really nice place there for lunch and a walk about the ancient remains around there going back over 1000 years
As someone who definitely is more interested in cameras than guns you was referring to automatic exposure, when you were saying automatic WB (which you probably are also using).
@@firewalker6712 yeah they normally come with pick foam but you can them without it sold pelican cases at one place I worked ..they are fantastic cases though
*TRANSLATION OF THE FRENCH LETTER:* Your excellency, Allow us to express our regret at the fact that our president, Mr. Mauser, did not have the pleasure of meeting you during your passage to Stuttgart due to his absence from Obendorf. Referring to previous talks with our director, Mr. Schmid, who had the advantage of having you with us, we have the honor of informing you that we are able to send to you at your address at the castle of Oberfuhring close to Munich on the 23rd: - 1 infantry Mauser model 04/07, 7mm caliber with sling and 5 training rounds - 1 cavalry carbine Mauser model 07, 7mm caliber with 5 training rounds and on the 28th: - 1 bayonet, short model, for the infantry rifle and 200 rounds with stripper clips for the aforementioned arms. We hope that in the meantime you will have received these objects. These 2 arms represent our latest models... (next page) ... half of the value is to be payed for at the signing of the contract and the other half at the acceptance (acc***** in the letter) of the arms at Obendorf come the remission of the documents to the expedition. We hope to be honoured by a response and in our wait pray Your Excellency accepts our best wishes. To his excellency, The Marshall M. Resa Khan, Aide-de-camp of the Council of S.W.J. the Shah.
Note that I'm not French (I'm Belgian, (Flemish)), so any corrections are welcome. Also what does Général Ministère du Conseil mean? General ministry of advice? Is it meant to be a sort of Home Office/Ministry of Internal Affairs?
Finns is currently modernizing the RK 62 to a RK 62M. They replaced the reindeer leather sling with tactical, rube stock to a telescoping stock, picatinny rails for a light or laser in front and picatinny for optical sight.
There are some very nice .32 bullets for the revolver calibers (327 Federal Magnum and 32 H&R magnum), and the terminal ballistics on those are not bad at all. The .327 has similar muzzle energy to .357 Mag, while 32 H&R magnum (in modern loadings) is somewhere between .380ACP and 9MM.
This video was really very interesting and informative. That's no surprise for anyone who has watched your channel, but this one just seemed especially good.
I live in Argyll and stay around 20 minutes from Kilmartin! It's a lovely wee village and has some very significant standing stones I visited about 2 months ago. I've been watching these videos for years, small world eh!
I've had a chamber flag do exactly what you described. Had to take a cleaning rod to get it out. I now stick it down the mag well instead of into the chamber.
The C-12 is definitely that old, but the MC-12W Liberty is much more recent Global War on Terror iteration, see www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/104497/mc-12/
@@nigelwright1610 It's always much more work than people imagine. The C-12 may not have been a state of the art aircraft, but the MC-12W was a state of the art ISR platform. That bolting of computer racks and antenna took 22,000 hours per aircraft and cost $10m. Which doesn't count the work L3 did developing and integrating the systems, which was likely in the man-centuries.
Hey, neat! Ardbeg Corryvreckan was among the scotches that Lock Picking Lawyer sent Tarah and I for our recent Tasting Tuesday video. 🥃 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-757eyENVL7s.html
Greetings from Malta! Each time I watch a Q&A video I really wish you gave us a tour of yoyr bookshelves. Even a blog post with a few pics with the titles visible would be great! Thanks.
The MC-12W is an Air Force special reconnaissance variant of the C-12 cargo airplane which, in turn, is a military version of the Beech King Air 350. Basically they took an airframe that already existed and shoved a bunch of special electronics equipment inside them.
Greetings from northeast Scotland! I adore these videos, they're incredibly informative and very relaxing to listen to. Thank you for sharing your ancestry with us :D
1930's adventurer load out?"The Highway Men" shopping spree comes to mind lol. I would pick a Remington Model 8 in 35 Remington, Colt 45 double action revolver in 45 ACP with moon clips as a sidearm, Colt Monitor would be good for vehicle based use (or use against vehicles). But still need pump 12 gauge either a Remington or Winchester trench guns.
I was thinking the Model 8 would be a good choice, especially one of the extended mag police versions. The only issues I can think of are the exaggerated recoil from the long-recoil operating system, and that it uses a cartridge not used in any Allied or Axis small arm.
1911, SMLE or M1917, and Winchester trench gun for me. Edit: now that I have watched the entire video, I think I'd go with 1911, Thompson, and BAR-D, Ian has a good point about not really needing a basic rifle. If I can use European weapons, I'd go with FN Hi-power, that MP30 Ian mentioned, and still an FN model D BAR. I would consider the BAR in 8mm for common ammo in most of Europe, but if I'm dreaming I want it in 6.5 Swede.
My suggestion regarding redesigning the 'M1 Carbine' is based on an actual prototype that was tested during WW2. According to 'The Owen Gun Story', (page 75) while working on the 3rd model Owen Gun for testing G.S Wardell at Lysaghts tested a Owen Submachine Gun chambered in 30 Carbine round, assumingly utilising the bolt weights and springs used in the earlier 3rd model .455 Webley prototype and an improved pin connecting the op-rod to the bolt. The actual reference in the book is very brief and more of an aside regarding the 3rd model gun, but clearly this was something that was considered at some point, although there's no other mention of how it performed other then the improved retaining pin been strong enough to handle the rearward buffering of the bolt. In an alternative 'Forgotten Weapons Q&A Galaxy' devaloped to it's full extent and assuming this mythical. 30 Owen Machine Carbine kept the same reliability characteristics as the 9mm Owen it would've emphatically solved the 'dirt and other crap egress' issues inherent with the M1 carbine. Furthermore, if adopted, this weapon would've easily been compact enough to fulfilled the M1 Carbines original role as a PDW for weapon crews, support and rear echelons troops as well as potentially replacing the M1 Carbine and possibly the Thompson in combat roles.
I made the mistake of picking up a bottle of AN OA and boy talk about being a smoke show. Now I have learned that if it is not from Speyside it is not for me.
59:07 Pre-war Polish police purchased some Suomis (more or less 100 ex.) from Finland in the beginning of the 1930’s (used along with some American Thompsons M 1921 and 1928).
Actually, before outbreak of the war, Suomis were sold to Estonia and Spain as well. In case of Polish contract, the Finns officially presented KP/31 to a Polish attache in Helsinki in 1934, hoping for a bigger contract. So the following sale was not strictly speaking a true commercial 'off-the-rack' one. Overall Polish State Police (Policja Państwowa) initially bought only 50 of those in 1934 and another batch of 20 in 1936. Price for a Polish contract was 500zl (around 95$) a piece, with 200 rounds of SAKO 9mm Para for each of the guns.
@@hayperekpo THANKS for the great info! I wonder if pictures were taken during this presentation… As a Pole, I have great respect for Finns, such a great Nation!
Also, for the fastest concept to production: I think there's a winchester lever action model (I can't recall which one right now) that John Browning designed and had a working prototype in something like a single month. What a mad lad.
I do enjoy the Korean stories of I shot this guy he went down then popped back up. So the guy you were shooting at heard the ballistic snap of your miss and went down so he would not get shot with follow up shots. Then got up and continued the advance to your next miss where he went down again. This went on until he was close enough that the wind did not push the bullet off the target?
The thought that came to my mind about what guns to modify is that there are some guns that have an unusual degree of modularity that allow you to make 2 guns that are verbally identical but functionally very different. The accidental king of that hill is the AR-15 but there are some other modern offerings that are striving for the same. Of course the most popular guns (Glock, Ruger 10/22, etc.) will have the most choices of aftermarket parts and accessories that allow you to customize a gun to your preferences.
I am very impressed with your work process and equipment that you carry. Thanks for the video. Also, I don't know who did your old intro; that was so cool. Keep up the great videos.
On the Sten, it follows the old saying that you can’t have something good, fast, and cheap, pick two of them. With the Sten they picked fast and cheap, which was what the British needed there and then. Yet it was still good enough to get the job done. Seems similar some similarity to the Chauchat. Not an ideal firearm, but it is functional and quantity is a quality of its own.
It's also not uncommon to have a sight extension tube at the muzzle of a target rifle with aperture sights, particularly smallbore (.22LR) prone target shooting. Anschütz make one: jga.anschuetz-sport.com/index.php5?menu=596&sprache=1&zubehoerID=4937
1:02:55 AFAIK, that's what they are doing in modern competition air rifles: a short barrel in a long shroud to move the sights apart as far as allowed while reducing the time the bullet spends speeding down the barrel to minimize the time frame during which the shooter can flinch the gun off target.
The last question should have included a link to Demolition Ranch. Dude shoots all the typical calibers (22, 32, 57, 9, 45, 556, 762, 30-06, 50 and other stuff) at all sorts of random crap. When you watch enough of his stuff, you start to get an idea of the true capacity of each round. Mostly, 22 doesn't do much and 50 obliterates things as expected. But he recently fired at a 40 pound cube of pure solid tungsten and even 50 struggled with it. It doesn't matter if he's firing at rows of balloons or stacks of pillows or vats of honey or bricks of dry ice or of blocks of titanium. What matters is that you get to see the relative power of each round in each material. This allows you to extrapolate how well each round might perform in mammal tissue.
We had a range qual go over by hours thanks to a group of soon to be re-PFC's posting a NO-GO and thought if their rifle jammed before final round to keep qualified they would keep it. 6 of them simultaneously managed searing the bolt lock off inside the chamber without any armory personal in the county. They were happy to learn they could skip the last round... until told it was because weapon privileges were revoked during unit endangerment court marshall hearings anyway. Unless they could remedy the freak circumstances that landed all of them in the situation before stepping off the range. None of them remembered the maintenance kit in the stock mentioned during the staff safety brief, and didn't figure out how to punch out the plug. It did wonders for my advancement path, happily.
In regard to empty chamber indicators (safety flags), I have a friend who shoots service rifle competitions. In one of the matches he gets his No. 5 carbine barrel so hot that it glows red hot. He puts a yellow MTM empty chamber indicator into the chamber as soon as he finishes and has never had one melt!
On the updated .30 Carbine questions, I have on my desk a couple of spent cases. One is .30 Carbine. One is 5.7mm P90. They're about the same size. If you wanted to get nuts, maybe a .30 caliber p90? But if you could make it work, something about the same configuration as the Ruger PC with the weight of the M1 Carbine, in 30 Carbine, would be a nice home defense peice if they made more good ammo.
Trivia but a few Canadian Bren Guns in 8mm Mauser were sent to Britain for a trial of use by the Royal Armoured Corps as they used 8mm Mauser in the tank BESAs anyway and the Brens were mostly used dismounted as guard weapons. At the same time the Mauser 8mm was being considered as a possible post WW2 British Army new standard small arms round.
I've also thought of some sort of .30 straight wall pistol cartridge that would keep up with a 9mm, but I don't think the gains (something like 1 round in a single stack subcompact and 2-3 in a double stack service pistol) would overcome the massive institutional inertia and economies of scale 9x19 has. Cranking up the pressure to push that smaller pill hard enough to do the same damage is going to make for more muzzle blast too.
@0:33:26 - Details of my Scottish ancestry. My grandfather and one of his sons, my uncle Ian, were both gamekeepers in the highlands at the same area. Kildonan Lodge will come up on Google maps. They were provided with a home, vehicle, quite a few firearms and a kennel of working dogs (Labs). When the big wigs from London came up, the lodge was prepared for guests and would be taken out for fishing and shooting. What a life. That would have been from the early 1900's up to the 1980's between the two generations. Possibly a previous generation also did it but I have no information. Uncle Ian went to enlist for overseas duty in WWII but they kept him in Scotland to train snipers since he was too good at it to risk losing when he could train so many others.
Extended front blade sights are a thing, or at least used to be, for 1911's. Ive seen several examples of competition oriented guns with an extra 6 inches of steel rod extended in front of the muzzle with a front sight blade for a longer sight radius
I drive up to Scotland at least twice a year. Favourite place to go on holiday to. It helps that they have the best roads in the UK, they really look after them and you get great views.
I think the M1 carbine magazine would need a higher strength steel and small dimpling on the outside of the feed lips to work harden the area to make a good magazine. That might also work for the .306 chauchat magazine.
Another good video. I like your elaboration on PDW vs. SMG. It makes sense. The HK MP5 comes to mind in that the standard MP5 is a SMG, whereas the the MP5K-PDW is still a SMG, it is a PDW because that was the purpose for which it was designed. Then Venn diagram of overlapping circles would do well to visualize the differences and overlaps. I liked your answers to the hypothetical question, "Supply your own weapons available in the US in the 1930's for use in Europe". I shouted (internally) a big yes to your choice of the FN Browning Hi-Power. I also liked your consideration of the BAR, but I was surprised you didn't pick the FN model "D" version. While not as common, it was made in 7.92x57mm, which in my mind would have made it a better choice, in addition to all of the improvements made by FN. I also agree with your comments regarding the Thompson. At the time, only Germany had a truly modern SMG for the time. Anyway, nice Q & A!
The point was a smaller case diameter than 9mm, so Tok and FK BRNO are out. I don't think it's possible to get 9mm-equivalent performance out of an @8mm diameter case, and you're only going to gain 2-4 rounds capacity.
@@stephenzavatski8016 that's when you start running into overall length problems. Have you ever handled a Five-seveN? The grip isn't wide, but it's uncomfortably long. I think that your realistic maximum cartridge length is about 1.25"/32mm, the length of a .45 or 10mm. At least for any firearm where the magazine goes into the grip.
The real question is, why not use .308 or .30-60 or .300 win or .338 brass, size it down and try to get a .223 projectile out of a 6 inch barrel, instead of whatever the FK BRNO is trying to do? The FK BRNO is expensive, but I think that if such a goal is physically possible to be done at price point of 7.5 FK BRNO - it would be potentially viable on the commercial market. Suffice to say, any new cartridge that fits a niche use needs to be based on a commercially available, cartridge case. Just my thoughts on the small diameter high velocity pistol cartridges.
@@jonasstrzyz2469 the FK BRNO is based on 10mm case dimensions. Sure, you could start with .308 brass, but that's 12mm at the case head and now you're down to .45 capacity and grip dimensions. Call it 13 or 14 rounds instead of 16. Now, if we could get that performance out of a 9mm case, that'd be wicked awesome, 18-20 rounds.
Regarding the sight radius question S&W offered a version of the Model 41 with the standard barrel length but with a front sight that extended to the length of the long barrel so shooters could take advantage of it without the extra weight.
France was developing a .30 Carbine assault rifle in the late 40s/early 50s, using Mauser engineers that would go on to use that work for the CETME in Spain. It's kind of sad it never came to fruition, but due to the decolonization wars, the French army went for the MAS49 + MAT49 combo instead of an full-on assault rifle. Interestingly, French paratroopers and special forces were massive users of the M1 and M2 carbines, and I've never read or heard a bad comment on them in comparison with the Garand (which was in service in Algeria) or the MAS49 and 49/56 rifles in 7.5mm
The only reason I can think of in combat to have a bolt action vs semi/full auto rifles/carbines/smgs seems to be if you are doing secret squirrel stuff and you want something as silent as possible, see the De Lisle, to avoid noise of the action cycling.
I wasn't the one who asked the question, but I'd thought about an enbloc-fed 5.56 rifle (basically a mini-M1) especially for jurisdictions that don't allow detachable magazines on semiauto rifles. As cool as that would be, I'm sure the development cost would be slightly more than pinning a magazine into a Mini-14 and bolting on a $30 stripper clip guide. Edit: "Why are there no 6.5mm pistol cartridges" is also a question I asked myself during my short search for a bullet to duplicate the Swedish practice ammo (4g bullet at 680 m/s).
