Quad Cortex Mini is coming... 

Boom.

Helix sounds like doo-doo

​@@thecastermaster1 ...if you don't know what you're doing.

I use hx efx with my Kemper . Line 6 efx is amazing

@@adamwilcox6405 or brainwashed.

Ampero 2 stomp?

And we have the desktop editor! So the QC rack unit won’t even really need a large screen like how fractal and helix do.

😅 Thanks, I'm probably completely wrong and it's a new plug in!

Why not keep the QC?

If there is a mini it’ll still be way more expensive than the ToneX pedal.

@@JayTheLane that’s fine with me if it runs dual captures .

It’s just pure speculation. Nothing to get upset about. Yet……

Why would you buy a product based on hopes instead of what it is. This is on you.

@@tonepilotI meant the SOON sign. I clarified my post.

No it wasn't. So many fragile guitar players out there.

@@checkitout611 fine to be upset about that. Not ok to think it's a middle finger.

I chose it as my "Best of NAMM" in the video that just came out.

@@ToneJunkieTV thanks I feel dumb now lol

@@user-sp2ox2px2yActually I just realized that the video hasn’t published yet so you didn’t miss anything. 😂

That makes sense, I just skimmed the interview with kemper and didn't hear so I guess I'm not crazy

Is that a window tablet with an integrated audio interface?

RME should be about 3 ms latency. Kemper also has 3 ms latency. Shouldn't feel very different.

@@joejohnson8966 I hear you. The reality is that you need to go through the DAW, so that’s 4.5 ms roundtrip at 32 samples buffer. My monitoring system is dsp based and adds another almost 1.5 ms. Which for A LOT of players is still perfectly fine. Not for my brain, though. I completely lose my timing (which is just fine with low/no latency) and I lose the connection to the guitar. Meaning: because everything feels like being stuck in amber, I play with too much force. And I can’t help it, the notes I hear are just not connected to my strings. I have recorded since basically 1999 and was never able to retrain my thoughtmeat. I still prefer an amp, but the Kemper for me is just within the range where I don’t have that disconnect. I have it connected to an amp and guitar cab and that works perfectly. Would I still appreciate Christoph providing us with a 96kHz update to further reduce latency? That’s a firm yes for me.

Seems to be the main consensus. I'm waiting for guitar auto tune to fix my playing . Will pair well with my vocals auto tune cuz I can't play or sing worth a crap.

Naa it would be a Quartex bro 😂

😂😂😂😂 penny cortex

I hear ya I have to walk upstairs to my router to update also. Not sure if it's clear from my video but Helix is the one taht lowered their price, not QC. Not sure if the way I said it was confusing.

I don't get your editor comments.... why did they give you a cheaper unit?

​@@ToneJunkieTV NeuralDSP lowered the prices of their QC a few months ago, I think around the time the ToneX pedal was released. From 1899€ to 1699€, at least here in Germany.

​@@PippPrissback to original price. They were previously that 1699 mark but were raised during the chip shortage.

I think he used to work at Wampler 😉

@@ToneJunkieTV riiight. Josh Wampler. Love that guy!

What are the shortcomings to you?

@@thesoozeTJ geez where do I start? How bout UI workflow, first getting to and from gig view requires an awkward swipe up that doesnt always happen and takes a lot of practice to get good at and lets hope your not sweating, a button to tap would be so much easier. Back and forth auditioning amps/fx it requires a few extra steps then it should and can be really frustrating especially under pressure, helix really spoiled me on that. With available fx's you only get a small amount of basic selection. A handful of delays and reverbs, couple of compressors and mods. It was promissed at launch better and more pitch related things. Like a drop capo type thing that still hasn't come and you have to use the whammy to simulate it. The cab system looks cool, but there is not a big difference changing mics and not many cabs included, getting IR's into the unit has been a big ordeal, it may be easier now with the Editor. The amp model selection is pretty scarce if you ask me. I do not like the captures, they really need some type of liquid profiling equivalent, because you have to be able to tweak and in this case it all really falls apart when you try to do so, especially captured pedals. But even if you were someone who liked captures, the way they organize them in the unit is horrible, make take 15 minutes of page turning to get to something that interests you, but if that turns out not to be it you gotta start all over, but thats more UI stuff. The wahs are not very useable, you cant adjust the frequency sweep on them. I really miss the ability to assign a function or multiple functions to a footswitch, many will say you can do that with scenes, but its not the same thing and very hard to explain that to people. With helix you can assign a single footswitch to do pretty much anything from turn on and off multiple pedals, change snapshot and presets, change settings. All while the other footswitches wouldnt be effected. Giving you lots and lots of combinations of function, even within a single patch. Finally, ive been paying close attention to how neural has been carrying themselves and i get the impression that after the plugin integration is done they wont be doing much else with the qc, unlike helix and fractal who have regularly added more of everything. Theres been 2 updates in a row now on qc they didnt add any effects or cabs or drives or amp models. You have to keep in mind the head of the company and designer, is a bass player and from what ive heard, when people in person have tried to tell him what qc needs he cant understand what they mean. Theres probably a few more things that I just can't think of right now. I tried fm9 i loved so much about it except for how difficult it is to use and tweak on the fly, but im not a fan of scribble strips and prefer the gig view type screen in the QC or helix LT. I tried using a kemper but it too seems difficult to figure out, but also ive opened up for a lot of touring acts out if Nashville that use kemper and to me they just dont sound real now days, not that they have gotten worse but that the rest of the modeling world has caught up and surpassed them.

wow yeah that's a lot! Thanks for your thoughts @@BobbyCulpepper.srv3fender

@@BobbyCulpepper.srv3fender Is the smaller footprint and larger screen really worth everything you claim is wrong with it? If I was that dis-satisfied with a product I'd definitely move on from it as quickly as possible.

Maybe you should read their blog post before commenting first

@@StupidGuitarLink please.

@@DavidEidelberg are you incapable of finding their website on your own?

@@StupidGuitarAre you too lazy to provide a link to something you referenced? Yes, I looked in their website and didn’t see what you’re talking about.

@@DavidEidelberg so you’re incapable of navigating a website to the news section? It’s funny you’re calling me lazy. I read their updates. I didn’t go cry in a comment section, inaccurately, instead of educating myself. But by all means throw shade champ. That’s a sure fire way to get what you want…

Except plugin support is coming in Q2

I've been a Line6 player for along time....Flextone, DL4, M9, M13, HX stomp etc. At this point the effects are holding up but the amp sounds are lagging behind everyone else. But thats just my opinion... it can sound good and I still use my HX stomp often because its a great multi effects. I'm particularly disappointed that the newer L6 Helix models sound better than the stuff they launched with, amp wise, but they won't admit that and rework the launch stuff. For example the deluxe and twin models are no where near the later Silverface bassman models. I'd bet their next platform fixes everything. The most recent models are the best they have every produced.

@@ToneJunkieTV I really don’t think the amps falling behind everyone else holds up to any scrutiny when you blind test and stop judging with your eyes, particularly with the new cabs and new amp models. I agree that the older amp models are lacking but there are so many new ones that are incredible so why even use them? I’m primarily a Fractal user but the Helix stuff is still somehow incredibly underrated and if you can’t get a good sound out of it (not saying you specifically) it says more about you as a player and I do think that’s a massive part of it that no one is brave enough to talk about.

@@david71991 I’m just talking about amp models and my opinion and you just turned it into “you must not be a good player”. When conversations like this take that turn I’m out. Have a good one. 👍

@@ToneJunkieTV well I did specifically say not you as I wasn’t talking about you but people that think it sounds “bad” or whatever other term they want to use I can almost guarantee it’s user error. Just the way it is. I don’t see anything wrong with that line of thinking.

@@david71991I must have misread it because I see that now. I was on the toilet. 😬 My bad.

Dual Cortex?

We´re on the way to A CORTEX (Boss size mini neural thingy) @@ToneJunkieTV

@@ToneJunkieTV dual cortex for the HX stomp sized. "Cortex" for the boss ir2 size.

Exactly.

I mean, it's good enough for Megadeth. Are you Dave?

They are just clips from a longer podcast. Link to the full episode should be in the description. We usually discuss a couple topics in a full episode, but make shorter videos on each subject too,

It's actually totally reasonable to be pissed about it, because that was, beside the capturing tech, the main selling point of the Quad Cortex to begin with. People wanted to have the fidelity of the NDSP plugins in a portable device, because at that time it became apparent that the plugin market became more capable than what modellers had to offer on average. I do not own a Quad Cortex, but I have been toying with buying one on day 1 back in 2019 or so, actually based very much on the thought of having Fortin Nameless and NTS integrated into the QC. Very glad I did not bite onto the bait.

@@PippPriss you bought a device as is. Sure you can be frustrated at how long it took, but to cry about new devices coming out is stupid. In between the launch and now was also a global pandemic. As someone who works in software I can tell you that it wrecked a lot of teams productivity.

​@@StupidGuitarthat's all well and fine but it's equally stupid and a bad look for the company to continually troll it's user base by saying things like "soon" in a meme format. We're well past the point of soon. I'm not one of the users who was anticipating plugin support as excitedly but I can completely understand how they may have felt mislead timewise. The way neural made it sound on launch was that all the features they were advertising would be there within a few months to a year. This isn't soon anymore. They need to stop saying that.

@@joshshultz1250 like I said in another comment. So many fragile guitar players. They’re not trolling you. This is hype marketing. Get over yourselves!

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