QUADS vs BROADWAY! Tom Dwan and Garrett Adelstein Face Off 

What if you are against quad queens?

@@dingleberry4013 Quadder Jacks

@@dingleberry4013 Then you better hope you hit the fifth Jack on the river

Garrett made the wrong choice. He should have went all in here to consolidate the money,!and then follow Tom into the parking lot.

What about.. dueces wild? %>)

Ah ah 😂

@Dr. Phillip Montgomery it’s not pretty obvious at all what you talking about, it’s easy cos you can see the cards, stop making out your some pro. But I would of folded to because what are Dwans bluffs in that spot, barely none compared to the combinations of hands that have Garret beat

@Dr. Phillip Montgomery you would of paid em off🤣🤣

@@Charlton2010 lol u say it’s not obvious then u say you would’ve folded too. Then you insult the other poster about his poker ability. Allow me to interject because I can tell by your critical thinking skills that you lose regularly in poker so perhaps some direct criticism is what you need. Stop commenting on poker videos.

@Dr. Phillip Montgomery I would have payed Durrrr off for a variety of reasons, but that's just because I A) Know he is capable of bluffing there and while that Jack downgrades me to less than the nuts, the only hands that play this way are so weird they don't make much sense EXCEPT FOR JACKS, which if he has quads then lol he has quads. B) I wasn't around for the rest of the hands that Garret played with him before, it's entirely possible he picked up a read on Durrrr that gave him a better idea of where he was so he could fold. We do not know. The fact that you are willing to call yourself a pro, yet say how obvious this was blows my mind. Against any old player than sure, maybe, but against someone who is KNOWN for their absolutely ridiculous bluffs, I think the tank is very reasonable. The fact that Garrett didn't call shocked me, with the way the action went and the price Durrrr gave him it seemed like such an easy bluff to pick off, I guess that's why me and you are stuck in our stakes and Garrett is where he is huh XD

You wouldn't happen to have a link to that would you kind sir?

@@BoeingPrototype I don't unfortunately. It was a long stream. Maybe someone else has the timestamp?

Anybody who mentions that somebody runs good and implies that they usually do doesn’t really understand much. Not one person has more luck than the other.

@@gagebillingsley1025 If you play this many hands, its almost impossible to "run good"

@@gagebillingsley1025 I agree, but its funny how even the commentators say it lol!

Nwww, the 25k bet sucks

@@michaelangst6078 is a good bet. Weaker hands call, and better hands raise.

The overbet doesn't scream weakness, he was just very polarized and if he was bluffing, he'd be trying to get hands like AK to fold, so it needs to be big size

Losing to 28 starting hands, really only beating a bluff or q9

Dwan's raise was too high. Easy fold.

Is it? He owes people hundreds of thousands

M So wise zen masyer

with quads its easy

I can do that. Just breath not moving that’s all

He plays excellent and many great folds and calls and durr another great player

he also runs like god

I guess he needs to test his game in macau

He is crazy talented.

@@rooksman64 it seems that way because you only watch highlights. Gotta realize he always buys in the max amount. And he does run bad too. You just don’t see it in the highlights but go check out the 8 hour video lol

his abillity "to get there" is even better ...

Its better if he was acting more like stress and worrying about his hands rubbing his for heads with sigh..

He never calls the clock too

@@emersonovd.sikowski4965 How is that better ?

@@fractal_mind562 coz he keep same faces over and over again which is pretty common and predictable.. think who's the best actor in poker ?

So true. Uncanny how many times he escapes these spots. One of the best players of the game.

That may be true but it's not that hard to get away from this. KKs 10s JJs KJ J10 all beat him

It’s insane. He seems to fold 99 percent of the time in the right situations. He did get bluffed by mikki who had a a 5 high

He can beat no value hand here. Not that hard

Garret is so good. He routinely correctly folds monsters that I never could.

Haha casually bets the deposit of a house

Same here. My 2 favorits I thought I'd never see the day these 2 are at the same table.

Meet a guy who bluffs ivey with 9 high!

Were you at the table?

Awesome

@@helpmeinburning ... Seat 5

But you would have had no clue what anyone had.

in most cases yes, against a competent player like garret, he just rarely has a hand that doesnt bet the river, its better to check the third street when you unblock all the combos of value they would assume is ahead due to the two previous checks

Ha I remember when Gabe said that too.

It was an easy fold

@@estelsander979 whatever dude...I can agree you can put Dwan with whichever pocket pairs since there's not too much action pre-flop to determinate his range, but that was everything but an easy fold

@@jomapuig93 easy fold. 1 bet call by Dwan preflop. Dwan can easily have 44, J10, KJ (21 combos) as well as AQ (12 combos) for chop. Less likely he could have smooth called 1010 (3 combos) but could have this considering he also smooth called JJ (1 combo) here. Unlikely he had AK, AA, KK, or QQ because he almost 100% always 3 bets these hands because he loves playing big pots so he's not bluffing with these hands either. So what do you think he is bluffing with here? AQ? not likely. Triple Js? No...he's just calling Garrett's bet on the river with these because there is no value hands to that to call them. Rainbow board so no missed flushes. So you're left with KQ or Q9 suited bluffs and Garrett has a Q blocker and that's it. EASY FOLD.

Yo he foldeado Reyes preflop y nadie me grabó en video, sino ese hubiese sido EL MEJOR VIDEO

@@martinnicolas172 a nadie le importa

I'm curious to know which bluff hands you can put Tom on here? Its a rainbow board with no flush draws. It was only 1 bet pre-flop call by Tom so he doesn't have AK. Garrett has AQ so he blocks other AQ bluffs - 9 combos there. Other than that which bluffs? KQ? Q9 suited? 98 suited not likely with the K on board. So maybe another 12 combos for bluffs? Made hands you can easily put Dwan on KJ, J10, 44. If he slow played maybe KK but more likely 1010. That's 24 combos.

not really. He checked/called flop and turn. Donk betting the river makes no sense

Completely standard check, the way the hand was played. It's called playing in flow. A lead would be out of flow.

@@lordhuebi he could definitely lead river as a blocker bet with KQ, QJ, AK knowing if he's raised it's likely a straight or FH so why not do it with something super strong like quads on occasion?

@@foramuricy Even if the river card hit him?

Everyone ususlly checks when they've hit quads

he also limped with JJ

stop saying "bluff catcher" lol he can beat a-j

@@LIONTAMER3D if aj raises an overbet on the river there its doing it as a bluff.

@@mantasvalciukas5734 when you learn to play, you'll see more ckearly

@@LIONTAMER3D oh yes, the pro tip

Maybe he cheated a la robbie

OF course. When he raises that river he has to have boat or better or just a bluff. So Garret's hand becomes just a bluff catcher at that point.

Garret makes a 3bet preflop the 90% percent of the time. With almost any hand, 96s for example. Here he just calls with AQs, maybe because he is facing Tom Dwan. In the flop a continuation bet from Tom is right, nobody gonna think we have the nuts. In the turn another bet (we are losing now), and call if we face a raise. In the river: two options. 1. Check-raise to any bet. 2. Make a pot size bet or overbet, and check-raise any bet. In this way, betting since the flop, we built a much bigger pot, than just check-calling.

I mean pot size bet or overbet, and re-raise any raise. (River 2nd option)

PLaying at those top crusher stakes is a near impossibility. Not because it's unattainable, but those stakes represent maybe the top 0.1% of players. If that. You need an IQ of at last 120, minimum. You can't just be a above average 115 kind of guy. Then you need to devote hours of study each day. These guys will study 6 hours a day, then play 6 hours. it's a constant competition. Someone will be studying your hands. Getting that slight edge over you that will see them win a million off of you over 10,000 hands. And there have been plenty of high stakes pro's who were on top for a few years then crashed and went bankrupt.

Check out Aussie Matt, that fish loses 1 million dollar pots in minutes and just reloads and does the same again.

@@elyastoohey6621 Surely IQ cant be the only deciding factor here. Someone can be smart yet have no discipline.

@@joehughes6302 like I said, Iq is just a prerequisite. Then you need to put in the hours to beat all the other guys with 125+ Iq’s who are putting in 6-12 hours a day. Its not an easy lifestyle. Most of these guys could be making lots of money in other professions. Why a lot of poker pros are guys who could be top bankers, but they’re just a bit too weird, or have poor communication or poor team work skills, so they play a more isolated numbers game. Adelstein is cool. But he always looks high on something and super irritable, or super laid back. Some people just wouldn’t hire him because he seems too intense. Obviously likely genius or at least gifted Iq. For a while a lot of the top poker players were also bankers. They had the maths foundation and regular exposure to risk/reward. But now because to be the top players you need to devote yourself to the game, the age of the finance guys holding a 9-7 finance job, then playing poker on the weekend is kinda gone.

@Harry BaginaI know how to be an addict & stand on the street corner but I am curious about the (professional) gigolo application process? I'm intrigued...

A lot of hands beat him tho, not just JJJJ He could have KK, KJ, TJ, TT, 44

Have you seen Nguyen's folding a fullhouse?

@@michaelvu8776 that’s nothing, I once saw Juanda fold - trips -

After Dwan raises the river Garret is basically left with a bluff catcher. It's a good fold but not even the best one I've seen Garret make.

hitting cards when you’re behind has NOTHING to do with tough laydowns I saw a huge pot where Garrett had AQ vs Zack’s AK of course Garrett flops 2 pair then rivers the Q for good measure

I've never seen garrett play much, but this is good

Someone behind scene has to be relaying info to garrert like Mike postel.

@@homeroreyes7093 And others players could be doing the same

Is that the latest 'story'?

what was great about dwans bet?

@@Simon-nv5zj 1.5x on the river against Broadway…? Both players played the hand incredible and here you are being a hater

@@jaybaker7870 i asked a question and you call me a hater? my god. my point was dwan has quads and gets a 1.5x pot bet into him, and my question was, what was great about dwans bet? Because it seems to me it wasnt that great since if he went bigger imo he would more likely get called.

@@Simon-nv5zj it comes down to respect. Garrett knows that a 1.5 raise shows more strength than a shove especially at the highest level. You just sound like a hater or just don’t understand the game. Dwan goes for max value, Gman lays down a killer hand. Both played well, both should be commended for it.

@@jaybaker7870 what comes down to respect? that im questioning? you are literally not making sense. dwan clearly doesnt go for max value, since he would bet...the max. Dwan's best action was the check on the flop,since he shouldnt really be doing that much on JTx. Garret played this very well , dwan played his hand fairly standard except maybe the check on the flop.

He can.

his bet was solid

I like a jam, too. Make it look bluffy and spewy. But what full houses? Garrett unlikely to flat with TT or KK. Even 44 is an easy fold vs that line. That value raise made it an easy fold.

@Nolan Wilson by GTO principles: he has the best possible hand, so you want to go all in whenevr u have the best possible hand (on the river generally)

Jam is a reasonable move but all the boats going to raise you anyway.

@@DescartesRenegade Garret prob flats TT preflop

I always know what to do when I see both hands.

@@drslyone Yeah but you explain it in ways that no one understands but that make it sound like you know what you're talking about? From reading these comments I'd say that's clearly the trick, ha.

Great point. Watch Krish when he shoves, he does it immediately, and it’s usually on a draw or just top pair. He does it a lot, with his head down

ya, if he just jams allin without using the time chip, gman might call his fake bluff!

@@mannyramos8987 and he ALWAYS loses. It’s so blatantly obvious

That’s terrible logic. I’m assuming you’ve never once watched dwan play or there’s no way you’d say that. These guys get absolutely no time, time chips are used on bluffs all the time

Tom is never ever xr a 1.5x river ob with trip J’s for value. He has full houses, quads and bluffs.

I don't think there are very many good players who would value raise a single jack on that board.

When Tom raises the river Garret's hand basically turns into a bluff catcher. Good fold but I've seen Garret make way sicker laydowns.

Yeah that overbet is just a no no lol. Pretty big blunder. AQ is a pure check there at that river. Can justify betting small but definitely not overbet.

Why would you check that??? Textbook bet fold mate

@@wookies45 Betting small? Sure. But checking is superior. What hand do we extract value from if we bet? Especially with that overbet size? AA QQ snaps fold. UTG can only call with boats here and maybe with QJ or AJ.

@@Nathan99924 checking is superior? LMAO you NIT. If your opponent checks ALL 3 streets to you and you check behind with Broadway you might as well go home.

@@ArmorOfZeus This is an UTG raise mate. Opponent’s line of checking 3 streets is very sensible, doesn’t mean that they don’t have strong hand in their range. btw do some research before you talk, pretty sure you can’t beat 50 cents online

Not as good as me . I would have checked river

Chip Reese... get real

Checking back would make you to exploitable. He should’ve bet a much smaller sizing. But he was going for a over bet bluff to put Tom in the tank and possibly get hero called by trips or two pair.

I was thinking the same thing lol

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@@stevevuoso8411 thank you

@@stevevuoso8411 ya…I guess that has to be the situation.

Fold. What use is a straight on a paired board with that kind of action? I don't even know why Garrett made that large a bet on the river. I thought he was supposed to be some big deal. What calls him there? Two pair? Would you call with two pair? It's too easy for Garrett to have a jack if Tom didn't. Weak players think holding a single jack is a strong hand there and it would be until there's that big a bet on the river. Then that's the minimum to bet with but not to call with for that much. When the board is paired and a straight is possible - with AQ, an obvious possibility given the action - both the straight and trips are in serious danger. What is calling Garrett's big bet on the river? A single jack? Garrett's fold was obvious once Tom raised. And his bet sizing on the river was a mistake. At most be should have made a small bet and folded to any raise. Tom was absolutely capable of doing exactly what he did with KK, JJ, 44, TT... Garrett is overly tuned to excessive aggression. He's not a reflective, nuanced player.

_a* 90% call_

Lol..its a 90% fold

@@mathiaskarlsson5402 You know Dwan would turn that river into a bluff almost 100% of the time with any two cards?

@@bard-anilsen Dwan banks on you to think that

Really good attitude for sure. We should be treating all our lifes decisions this way, would be amazing.

Until he was soul read by Robbi.

And didn't Tom go broke in Macau and owe money to some unsavory characters?

Grind? Lmao he’s a multi millionaire this like 1/2 for him

@@markg6796 this is definitely small potatoes for Tom

he finally escaped his chinese masters? lol

@@vinny6_9 some gooberball posted some "triads own dwan" nonsense on the 2+2 forums over 6 years ago, and someone is still parroting that? LOL

@@LIONTAMER3D lighten up, buttercup

I was thinking the same. It seems like it should be possible to watch a ton of each of these guys' hands and categorize their body language and play style, but I should also say I absolutely suck at poker so what do I know.

@@wrybread yeah but these guys are pros, they could be very well be displaying themselves like that on purpose. As the guy above said, there are layers and layers

@@NieLL1 Sure, but tendencies should still make themselves apparent over time. And by "time" I mean thousands of hands.

@@wrybread think how many pros are playing at the highest stakes, you’d have to watch thousands upon thousands of hands for each of them. Although i do agree that you’d end up finding a lot out about their physical tells, it’s just not feesinle to do all that research for every player.

looking at physical behaviour wether its controlled or natural is a start and it gets into intuitive reading peoples demeanours. I would say dwan trying to look sour when the board paired is most telling

yeah he is not even near the top of his range there

he can beat A J value raise =/

@@LIONTAMER3D Dwan (or any good player) is rarely gonna value raise a single jack on that board.

@@snapperjackson that's how you yourself can tell that you're not a good player =/

@@LIONTAMER3D yeah, right back atcha, buddy 😂

correct

plenty better than him, hes even said so.

@@Simon-nv5zjyou wrote a book about his life?or you just obsessed

​ @4463013 It takes 14 seconds to read that, my boy. SMH

Yes. The way dwan played it was super strong.

who checks 3 streets to raise you on the river when you overbet the pot and you unblock all the combos of value and block all the drawing combos. its just weighted too heavily towards full houses, and Overplayed J's which tom rarely has here or a straight bluff. pure bluff catcher that you block alot of the bluffs on

Dwans hand was super disguised because of the action. A full house or quads didn’t make much sense with how it play out.