Quake II on the PlayStation 1 is an incredible port. Here is why. 

It's not as important now as it was back then but being able to push polygons was a big deal. And seeing polygons on the screen from the 4th, 5th and 6th generation of consoles really shows the progression in technology. Seeing only a handful of polygons like on Star Fox or Virtua Racing really gives an impression of how primitive these first polygonal games were. Then jumping to Mario 64 or Quake II on the PS1, those consoles were drawing more polygons in a single frame than the previous gen was in a single second. Then jump to the 6th gen where environments were becoming super detailed with textures and polygons. Immersive experiences like Shenmue, mini worlds like Crazy Taxi you can drive around, or explorable maps like Halo, all I can say is that that transformation of gaming was my favorite era by far.

Yeah, totally. It's like when you see how a magic trick/illusion (and it is magic!) is pulled off and your like "Ahhhh, that's how they did it!".

Same here!

In the original quake 2, cvar gl_showtris can be set to 1 to show the world geometry. Not sure if it's in the remake as that cvar. You might have to set cheats to 1 for it to work in the original.

SAME

It looks very similar to HL in some scene from this video. It could be massive!

If the loading times on the Dreamcast are any indication, the PS1 load times would have been over a minute long between areas. I don't think it would have been very playable on a 33Mhz CPU. Where can your patch be found?

@@Charlie-eq3dj I posted a video on my channel a couple years ago. There is a big bug which I only found out last year when I replayed the game - for some reason "God Mode" is always on, lol, I'll look into fixing it (EDIT: fixed it, I missed a branch delay slot, go figure, I updated the archives)

@@xan1242 Enabling a debug menu is not the same as creating a patch for a game.

​@@prawngravy18why can't it be both?

definitely :)

I was just about to write exactly this! So much fun with 4 player mode.

How?

@@cmbaz1140 a adapter called multitap, It was released in a V format initially (the one i used) and a box for the slim and the PS2.

@@cmbaz1140 Multitap

@@BartekSzzz Somehow, the poor graphics and the small tv made plying it possible even sharing a screen, you couldn't look at other people share of the screen because you would get lost in no time.

Your old man was hardcore.

My Grandpa had an imported version of Quake on the Famicom. Always playing it. He stopped mowing the grass for a year. I had to do it for pocket money.

He sounds like he was a really cool grandpa.

The ps1 warbling graphics is so sad. To me it’s the main thing that makes the games not quite as fun to play these days. It’s just so offputting to me. Funny thing is I never noticed it when playing the games when they were out 25 years ago, probably because I didn’t have much to compare it to

@@chiarosuburekeni9325 Back in the day you'd play on a relatively low-res CRT TV and it wasn't nearly as noticeable as it is now lol

it even played well in multiplayer.

you're wearing rose colored glasses. it was horrible and was why i was happy having a nintendo 64 instead of a playstation. @@Reydriel

Same here. Doom was meh. Quake was the first real fps.

Yup, same.

Duke for me . And quake 2 ..and doom . Got them all at once on a cd for pc when I was 12 .. an absolute blast !

Don’t forget SiN: Wages of Sin 😏

Same. I used to play team death match in the ukccl. That was legendary. Kicked off eSports pretty much

👍 Sounds great. 🤔 With MISTer, are mouse controller and Dualshock/Digital controller supported when both plugged in for hybrid controls? Can 2 multi-taps be plugged in for 2-4 player with those controls?

Absolutely. When I first launched Q2 I was thinking how horrible it's going to look, but it was actually one of the best looking games texture wise. Honestly I was surprised to see how little textures moved around. CRT somehow "masked" it quite a bit. Maybe it was something about interlacing or something. Also framerate was way better than I thought it would be.

one of the programmers said the presorted draw lists for each object was the key

@@jc_dogen Yeah, the poly sub-division to reduce warping was present in the first version of the engine used for Shadowmaster. At that point it was basically just a PS1 renderer with the maps being built on SGI workstations and imported onto the console. That version was effectively 2.5d (think Doom) so for Quake2 we needed a much more capable system both to render and author content. We built a tool on PC to build the levels out of modular chunks, handle portaling, entity placement and logic, and allow users to manually pre-sort objects in order to reduce real-time load. That tool (GLMFC) was used for Quake2, Blade, Jinx, and a couple of other unfinished titles, with variations on the target platform renderer in order to suit the project.

Saturn was a weake 3dr console compared to PS1. Also the texture warping existed in Saturn too and 32bt consoles in general.

@@kostasbousbouras2654 I'm not even sure I should respond with an actual rebuttal because you clearly have zero clue what you are talking about.

Four player? I though it was only split screen it supported.

​@@jothainwith a proper multitap, you can indeed play with 4 players splitscreen! And it surprisingly runs REALLY well!

@@TDRR_Gamez Cool never knew it supported that.

We played Quake 3 Arena on Dreamcast in 4 players.

That's true recently XL2 pulled an Unreal 1 port on the saturn as well, it looks amazing.

@@summerishere2868 Bloody hell that xl2 person is an absolute maniac.

AR was not only really hard but scary as hell too :D. I never completed it shit was just too much lol.

Also, the original Quake released in 1996, not 1995 as mentioned in the intro.

The Voodoo5 5500 wasn't even best in class for its own time, either. It managed to outperform the GeForce 256 through brute force despite the lack of AGP texturing fast writes. But that's the card it was designed to compete against, not the one it actually competed against. It was delayed so hard that it came out several months after the GeForce 256's successor: the GeForce 2, which handily outperformed the Voodoo5 5500. So there's no interpretation where what MVG said makes sense. The Voodoo5 5500 is a cool historical artifact and it is (or at least was, since dgVoodoo2 may have gotten a lot better) the best way to play old games using Glide, but it was a flop, and it did not flop without reason.

Yeah the Voodoo 3 ran this game really well, whereas you started to see 3dfx limitations with Quake 3 due to the 16 bit colour, lack of texture compression and transform and lighting

The Voodoo 3 was fantastic. It may have been technically limited compared to nVidia's cards at the time, but even back then the Voodoo had great open source support and worked beautifully under Linux, while nVidia was already showing the douchebaggery that was to come from them long before they were one of the biggest companies in the world, overtaking all other PC hardware manufacturers combined.

@@christophclear1438 Yeah it was a real nice card, and well priced too. I had a Voodoo 3 2000 PCI that alongside my sketchy AMD K6-2 366MHz (stable @ 400MHz) served me well until a while after I upgraded to an AMD Duron 700, until I got a GeForce 2 MX. All bargain bin parts, you may notice :D

Yep. This is a Voodoo Banshee kind of game. Voodoo 5s were more for playing Unreal tournament or Descent or Quake 3.

@@friendly_inlaw The PCI one was really awesome since it also worked in Amiga hardware if I remember correctly. I had an AGP version... but a sweet 3000. Oh the bragging rights it still carries to this day! ;-)

That's how I am with Turok Dinosaur Hunter, the learning and skill is still embedden in my brain 😊

I was totally fine playing this one a normal PS1 controller as a kid even though I played keyboard and more on my uncle's PC. It was just what I was mostly used too

Console gamer here 🙋‍♀️ I like the instant snap to position a mouse does, but I'm always re-adjusting it. I like the left thumbstick controls too, WASD has nothing on directional input when it comes to movement. 🙂

I love the lens flares that they added to this version too. I remember reviewing Shadowmaster for a PC games mag back in the day and really being blown away by the graphics on that one too.

you should try the recently released Unreal port to the saturn, if you have one. :)

Up there with Vagrant Story for sure.

There are actually a few games on the PS1 that I favor for that very reason. The fact that they could squeeze so much out of that cpu is great. I prefer Rayman 2 on the PS1 for instance, because of the voice acting, but also.. 33mhz and 2mb and it plays great! Same with Toy Story 2.

Thats why optimization would always surprass a more powerful hardware.

Agree

The only other one that i can think of is the first four Crash games made by Naughty Dog.