Queen of the Damned ~ Lost in Adaptation 

Avery Talks About Stuff Percy Jackson. Eragon. Artemis Fowl apparently.

this feels more personal, probably because Rice most likely annoyed every exec at the WB for her behaviour on Interview and then her harassing them to make more movies.

Well, if there was ever an author who deserved that middle finger... it's E.L. James, but Anne Rice is on that list too.

Would def love to see future episodes of the novels

AHM, Percy Jackson. AHM

Because budget. Or lack thereof, to be exact.

They are

From 1994.

It's cause they wanted to portray after-images due to speed. Like when you move your hand fast it looks like a trail of other hands following it. This is meant to show that vampires are speedy but special effects tech wasn't advanced enough to portray it without looking like dogshit.

@@mothmanspinealgland Well they could've dropped super speed for the movie which would save money and make it look better.

There's a comic song called 'The Internet Is for Pr0n'; my reaction to watching it was to keep saying "No! It's for cat videos!" ;-D

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I will _never_ turn down the offer cat photos.

@@astrinymris9953 both are true

only one page?......

Olivia Martin I relate to this comment.

I don’t blame her but this movie was all about making Aaliyah a bankable movie star...rip.

Quite frankly, I've always found the soundtrack the most memorable thing out of the movie itself.

i don't know how true this is but i've heard that this movie was only released due to aaliyah's death.

I I'm quite sure I only liked it because teen infatuation with Lestat..

Oh, that's cool

Ah, so said old scholars of Greek mythology studying Artemis and Orion.

*woman

Alice W. Omg

Haaaa!!! Yes! Always though he was pretty, but couldn’t put my finger on it.

thank you, now i can't unseen it either

Holy shit, he could pass for her brother!

That would be Stuart Townsend and I'm hoping we eventually see him in another Lost In Adaptation covering the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

He did, but it was taken down because of copyright

@@cameronbaggs6570 Awww I never got to see it. :(

He did that, look it up in the playlist

If y'all sign up for his Patreon you can access it

@@cafesandwednesdays she's right, it's up on Patrion

One that Cara Delevingne tried to replicate but couldn't. It made all the sense when Aliyah did that, and zero sense when Cara Delevingne did it. I wonder if that was her idea, or if it was direction she received.

Honestly I thought she was bad and her death excused her performance. She moved like a snake on crystal meth

Why? She was a mediocre actress.

Sorry, but just because she died doesnt make this a good performance.

@@katw.6519 compared to the movie and the other acting she actually was the best thing about this movie besides the music by Jonathan Davis of course

@@VuotoPneumaNN You said that as if the rest of the cast gave an Oscar worthy performance…

@@katw.6519 Damn, you’re rude! Nobody brought the fact that she passed away except you. You do know people are allowed to like her performance just as much as you’re allowed to dislike it???

Tom Cruise was my Lestat

I sure as hell wouldn't mind being the guy being sucked

What about “chainsaw doctor”?

fapp fapp fapp fapp fapp fapp???

Heh. And the funny thing is, this could be equally true whether someone is male or female.

@Seth Hultkrantz Pro-Tip: Don't use gay as an insult.

@Seth Hultkrantz You came all this way To be the very best poo that you could Well done

Big Facts

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It's also great fans of Korn

​@@darkservantofheaven i think the same, music it's a bonus point in this movie.

Opinions are a beautiful thing cause you can share it but it doesn't make it fact

It's especially offensive because Lestat is depicted in the books as being _super_ bisexual.

@@RabblesTheBinx And unashamedly so! I'm so happy Dom brought that up. Their erasure of Lestat's bisexuality is genuinely insulting

Also a fact: the homoerotic scenes between Marius and Armand are the steamiest ever! After watching the queen of the damned it made me blush when I read the book "Armand" for the first time :D

@@Kittyscrazyfurrmusic Anne Rice hasn't even come close to making you blush if you've never read The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty.. I still cant believe that story came out of that sweet little lady...

Honestly who gives a darn? Eventually they will do her works correctly and we will get the characters as she intended them. So, I really do not care whether anyone was gay or straight in Queen of the Damned.

I agree. Let the wholesomeness in.

"That site that shall not be mentioned." What site? Is it what I think it is?

@@littlearies3862 channel awesome, I think

@@Acidfrog475 Thought so.

And they acknowledged that they're on Skype, as opposed to the other reviewer apparently popping up out of nowhere in Dom's camera.

You should give Servant of the Bones a try. That one never fails to engage me whereas the rest of her books don't.

I literally will watch Dom review anything.

I second this request, Dom!

I like the idea's of her books but agree they are a hard read, I remember attempting to read the vampire lestat when the queen of the damned movie was coming out....only took 10 months :\

@@Abstract852 yes do a highlights. Dont want to spoiler but wtf to what has happend in the last one i have read. the "memnoch the devi"l one, god was that hard to read.

And you don't even mention how in your face it was with queen and twisted sister

Very interesting, I never thought of that.

That's fair. KoRn and Nirvana were very LGBT-positive, but it's hard to see anything but straightness, if not heteronormativity, in a lot of Nu-Metal.

A friend of mine adored Judas Priest for years, maybe still does we’ve been out of touch off and on, and it makes complete and total sense to me now. We haven’t been close in years due to distance and life events, but I’m definitely going to bring this up next time we talk. Thank you.

As an adult, it's actually kind of horrifying to realise how much of a backslide happened during my formative years. To put it in perspective, from the stories gleaned from the previous generation, everyone was absolutely convinced their marches and music and art and social breakthroughs from the 70s and 80s would change the world forever. Then the 90s rolled around and...well. I grew up learning how diversity was great - desirable, even - but heteronormative, flat-stomached, patriarchal, middle-class whiteness was the definition of perfection; the thing we were all supposed to aspire to. At its core, everything else was Other, weird, the exception to the rule or, worst of all, a fantasy unnecessarily pandering to the delicate flower children who just can't get over the idea that they deserve consideration and, ooh - crazy idea - representation. But the worst thing is, two decades later, I realise that we (the most liberal countries in the world) are coming back to...the point we were before I was born.

Which is ironic because the soundtrack only came out the way it did because the record label pulled one over Jonathan Davis' rights to his own *voice*. Rather similar to what WB did to Rice and her novels.

Same here. I watched for aaliyah too

Ditto

Some great cinematography, sets, and costumes too.

You summed up my opinion perfectly. Aaliyah and the soundtrack are the only things that make this movie worth existing. Just ignore the rest, Dom.

Honestly, despite the overall failings of this film, I find her in this movie to be iconic and pervasive.

While she could have done Book Akasha perfectly too, she does make one amazing and iconic (as WakeupGrandOwl said before) vampire queen, she might not be the one that was expected by the Anne Rice readers but still a memorable and very entertaining to see one, in a good way.

I second that. I couldn't find any motivation to pick up the series after Body Thief

Have you read her "Witches" books? I very much enjoyed them. But, I was also wondering why the later books became so hard to read.

@@AsheNightwind Servant of the Bones was good too

I never thought someone would need to be told "Hey don't portray a fourty year old molesting a 15 year old as romantic."

lol. Loved Anne Rice, I kept reading Vamp Chronicles long after it was good (should have stopped at Body Thief) Taltos stands out in memory from the witch side of her universe, and the Mummy (I think it was called) was really good. but man, some of those... Memnoch, Pandora, Armand,

Same! 😂 That sound track alone changed me. ❤

Elle’s Bells you have obviously never suffered the pain of seagull thieves

Seagulls, stop it now!

@@lordmorklen5166 why does this make me think of yoda?

@@stefanforrer2573 because his stick is better than bacon.

This actually happened to me one time with a seagull

The movie soundtrack I listened to endlessly in high school, surprised I didn't wear out the CD

I agree. I still listen to it.

yeah but he got the singer/song writer for lestats wrong although writing was accurate singers of those songs include david draiman(disturbed) and chester bennington (linkin park(rip))

It was completely a screw job to Jon Davis. They had him write and record the songs that were performed in the movie. He also helped put the album together...but Reprise refused to allow his voice to be in the CD's for Sony so he had to call the others to sing the songs. So in the movie because it is character/voice acting they used his tracks for Lestat's singing voice. There would have been a soundtrack with Jon singing...not that they are bad or even not wanted with the featured singers just not the original.

Yeah and I still listen to it. This movie made me love rock and metal or like made me intrigued enough to start listening to such music

That was my take of the novel having read it just recently. I believe the sisters hugged after the Queen's head was ripped off.

That would explain a few things, like how Ankil could be killed as a statue.

Yeah, the book even described them as being like marble or alabaster but wearing real clothes and real jewelry, and how realistic and wet their eyes looked, and how soft the lips. Then the movie had them looking like someone just poured plaster into a mold, clothes and all.

Visually speaking though, it was a stunning death scene

There’s even a scene after the killing when Mekare looks at Lestat while walking off with her sister.

ikr something more like the goth kids would like, I love Korn but the voice and style doesn't suit in my head

Agreed.

Seconded! I loved the first book, but the second one lost me about a third in (probably gonna finish it some day along with the third one since Dom's videos peaked my interest again). Pretty sure I won't try the rest of thr series but would like to see a video on it.

agreed. I've noticed some older films really not being afraid to show homosexuality, such as in Fried Green Tomatoes and Four Weddings and a Funeral. In ways that seem more progressive than movies that would be made a decade plus later.

I think somewhere between the two films the "They are pushing an agenda" moral outrage started to heat up, or really re-heat up, as same sex marriage support grow. Money clearly being on the film makers heads had no wish to do anything that may be seen as "unmoral" It's like when moral panic managed to kill horror comics in the 60's but they had way worse comics when they were kids.

And this was pre-brokeback mountain

@@howtubeable because it lends itself so easily to it? I have seen the movie maybe two decades ago, whatever. I honestly thought there was plenty of non-explicit gay stuff in there. I mean they even tried raising a kid together, not that it turned out well... The mind fills in the blanks that should be there? I have never read the books.

@@howtubeable i mean they may have removed a bunch and tried to straighten it up as much as they could, and yet there was still so much left that it massively out-gays queen of the damned!

Even the worst movies have great soundtrack. Music is powerfull

It’s still one of my favourite soundtracks of all time. It was 100x more solid than the movie, that’s for sure. Props to Jonathan Davies, I’m pretty sure he was the one who organised the soundtrack.

Still love the soundtrack to this day!

Yeah, great soundtrack.

Yep, it may be kind of trash but it takes me back to a place and a feeling that I just can't be without. Nostalgia is a bitch.

Same. Watched it many times on vhs as a small goth. :D

Main audience would be teen girls.

This was peak entertainment for my baby goth self back in 2002 and frankly I refuse to be ashamed about it. WB took something arguably primed for the emerging punk/goth culture and capitalized on it before their license expired, 🤷 that's just good business. The gay/bi erasure of Louis from the narrative is too bad but... Also kinda typical for the time.

Definitely has good music

SplatterInker Me too, and I still like it.

I kinda think he got it very wrong at the end. The movie itself with no context is not that confusing as a new watcher, because you don't have the context that the characters are supposed to be deeper or more complex. The only confusing thing for me when I watched it the first time was why they didn't use Aaliyah more.

Same. It’s a guilty pleasure to me and I’ll watch it many many more times I’m sure.

In a single night at that!

Sounds like a bethesda quest

I thought the goal of all bards is to create a new species.

In Prince Leslat Mekare was actually moving... just soulless/brain damanged.

Well the term "Dom" would get auto flagged and he would lose ads. Heck another youtuber whose last name was a slur ended up legally changing it because all his videos got flagged.

@@spicybeantofu Not only that. Rob got Blacklisted from Companies (for Adverts ) and Stuff..

He should start referring to himself as "The Dominic Noble."

Gold tint is way better than whitewashing

"The Dom" would really be flagged for requesting Subs.

I completely agree on the "straight-washing"

Y'know, as a bland chick can't possibly come close to a vampire without it turning into ~true love~.

Agreed on the straight-washing part. I’d like to add however, that the sets, costumes, and cinematography were great... even if the performances & effects were horrible.

@@Kenshiro3rd Yeah, that's why I feel it's an okay vampire movie if you don't know the source material and a good looking movie. But as an adaption it is painfully bad.

Angelique Elijah yup

I wouldn't mind this being the official LIA uniform

I'm not lesbian and I cringed when seeing it

I so agree with this comment

Exactly! It has great vibes.

Anne Rice attacking fanfic writers is why I don't read her work as a fanfic writer myself. Especially her comment about them not being real writers. There is a very thin line at times between fanfic writers and people who write for franchised books and movies that expand the universe. Star Wars books is a good example of this with their many different writers or Star Trek with their many books and movies not written by the original creators but is considered cannon.

@@Alphasnowbordergirl She also _doxxed_ multiple fanfic writers, which is unforgivable. I was still writing fanfiction myself at that point and I was just so horrified. Fanfiction has helped keep multiple series _alive-_ The original Star Trek is a great example of it (pre-internet, even).

@@Alphasnowbordergirl Write your own material based upon your own characters. You are legitimately stealing intellectual property writing with other peoples characters and trying to profit off of them. The thing with Star Wars and George Lucas is he had an open license that allowed fans to do so, just like D&D used to have (until Disney and Wizards of the West Coast, respectively, bought the rights ). The thing with franchises is they hire people to do this,usually after the IP was sold. They don't just let anyone write whatever they want and sell it. If your ideas for the characters are so good just change their names, and do your own world building rather than using someone else's.

​@yourmom4976 Technically, the OGL for D&D came in after Wizards bought it. TSR was well known for not allowing non-sanctioned works based on D&D while they owned it.

​@yourmom4976 Sorry, but you *legitimately* don't know what you're talking about. If the fanfiction is being openly discussed and published as fanfiction, the author of the fanfiction is being very open about the basic material for the fanfiction being someone else's, which is what makes it fan-fiction. Most fanfic writers don't ever try to profit off any part our work because we know better and we're not trying to pass off the characters or setting as our own. What the other writer was saying is that it's ridiculous to call fanfic writers "not real writers" because, despite the reputation that fanfiction has, a lot of us work really hard to tell good, well thought stories with characters and settings we love. We ARE writers, even if we're not trying to make money off it, which, to clarify, we are not because we're writing *fanfiction*. If we wanted to make money, we'd write *original fiction* instead of fanfiction. We may not *want* to do that for whatever reason. We're not all just "aspiring authors" writing OCs in high school because we don't know how to write good stories. A lot of the best fanfiction is deeply entrenched in its own world and features the characters acting recognizably as themselves, hence the Star Trek and Star Wars comparisons. If it's a good story that you can file off the serial numbers and publish, the author usually will either have done so or doesn't want to because they see the value of the story they wanted to tell communicated better within the specific context of a universe that already exists, like a Star Trek story starring the Klingons, with all the story and cultural context that name has, instead of Generic Warlike Alien Race #478. Fanfiction isn't so cut and dry a topic that you can just go "well you're just stealing, go write your own stuff lol". I mean, clearly you CAN, but you really shouldn't.

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Down with the sickness and forsaken by disturbed.. jay Gordon’s slept so long, system by korn ..

Agreed! Aside from deftones I was never into nu metal so most of the soundtrack was not for me, even if it fit the movies's vibe really well. I also distinctly remember being irritated that Aliyah had what seemed like five minutes of screen time after watching the whole movie just to see her.

@@colemarie9262 I never understood why they gave Lestat Jonathan Davis’ voice.

Not only straight washing but really badly done straight washing ... mostly no chemistry and females having only the 'I'm a hot chick' or 'I'm doe eyed blanc canvas' "personality" types don't exactly make anyone root for the pair.....disgusting.

@@Kardinaalilintu it actually makes me wonder, as a mostly straught person i dont get how these "obligatory" romances are interesting for anyone? Like if you remove a critical character because youre afraid of them being, rightfully, perceived as gay and replace them with a stereotypical-no-chemistry het "romance" that doesnt actually make any difference? Like if i had to choose between a movie with no romance and one with this farce of a romance id choose the one without? So if you really feel like you have to remove a gay relationship/ gay coded relationship, which is really horrible in itself in most circumstances, why, god whyyyyy would you then add a different totally bland and uninteresting forced het romance??? Whyyyyyyyy Id rather watch a really genuine romance, regardless of romances, than that kinda trash. I even prefer no romance altogether if bland trash is the only other option.

@@Sirvaria I think because since this became a stereotypical vampire film, the main male vampire walking around with his shirt off was supposed to at least find one "hot" chick worthy of more than just killing. B/C vampires = sexy.

And this version of Jessie is just so Bella Swan although the twilight series didn’t yet exist.

@@fizzyofbrassica IA. She was one of the blandest love interests I have seen in a movie. Lestat wasn't much better either. I rooted for Akasha by the end.

Call out much jeez XD

Similar reaction for me. I picked up my girlfriends book, decided it was just a pulp romance/sex/power fantasy series and moved on. But Dominic is great. I have a hard time finding a reviewer that doesn't use criticism to be edgy and cool.

Except the entire book focuses on the vampire Lestat and his encounter with the Ordinary Man shattering his perceptions of the non-existence of God?

May I ask why? I have heard she can be unpleasant but since I don't follow her I was wondering why she gets called a bitch by fans.

@@Passions5555 Well, it's a long story, but she was (is?) So against fanfiction that she sued and served cease and desist orders to several fansites, no matter how small they were. The whole saga can be found on Fanlore.org if you search for it. So it's basically poetic justice that who she willingly to give the rights to decided to dick her over and produce trash.

THIS!

Hahaha but reading terrible vampire books is so fun

fleacythesheepgirl Same! More please!!!

Yes exactly

Considering he didnt really know the difference between 80s and 2000s rock, he doesn't seem to be a huge music guy. But yeah, Jonathan Davis is my one true husband lol

Thats about the only positive I can give it. Just wished we could have got proper TVL and QotD adaptations. 😢

They had Jonathan Davis on a phone call at around 3 or 4 in the morning, it was weird, lol.

In the recording for the concert scene.

agree

I tried starting Prince Lestat a few weeks back, and just couldn't get more than a few chapters in. Even more than the weirdness of plot in the new stuff, the quality of writing seemed to drop soooo drastically. It almost read like bad fanfic trying to ape Rice's style, which is such a shame. I looooved her older stuff, from the vampire books, and witchy stuff, to Servant of the Bones. It was such a let down to see where the newer books went.

Haha what's more weird? The clones? The bird aliens? The bird aliens offspring that can clone themselves. Gosh I can't...

About two years ago I tried to read Prince Lestat and got... somewhat less then 1/4 into it before I read something (don't remember what) that made me actually chuck the book across my room and shout "NO!" so loudly my brother came running into the room to make sure I was okay.

@BABYd0LL '59 i don't know about the filming but I do know for sure that her brother had to dub several scenes as his sister because they hadn't finished that before she died.

Hmm. I shall adopt that mindset

Same! This is also how I think of the Wicked book vs musical.

@bigevilworldwide1 dude, this movie was done in 2001/2002, the peak of nu metal! Nothing give more this "edgy vibe" the producers they wanted to give for the vampires than this style. It's impossible to create something without any interference from the period they were made and Jonathan Davis was responsible/producer for the soundtrack, so... deal with it.

The weird plot twist no one expected-she turned ultra-religious and ‘killed’ the author herself.

can you explain, please?

@@d.o.m.i. "Pipe" is French for Blowjob.

And I bet that was intentional

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I was thinking about Hellsing Ultimate.

The not drinking the last drop bit is to avoid drinking dead mans blood, which is a plot point in Interview. Maharet/Mekare turning to stone is because they literally consume the evil spirit/god that they cursed Akasha and Enkil with.

Yes me too!!!

Nah it's a secret fav of mine too, I like the music and the goth vibe. As a 13yo it was a dream come true.

I was 22 (2002) and Aaliyah and the soundtrack sucked me in. I’ll still watch it because of the soundtrack and seeing Aaliyah on screen.

I liked it as a teen, and still like it as a second rate vampire movie. It's just total shit as a book adaption.

Nah. I love the movie. It wasnt until this last year that I actually read the first three books that made me even realize how far it was off from the source material

Nope, it's on my replay reel - I've watched it too many times to count. It is not a great movie, nor faithful to the source. But it's a mood. Also, Aaliyah.

I'm a gen-xer. "Interview with the Vampire" was such a success, that we got placards when we saw it. I saw QotD ten years later at 30ish, and still liked it. In the early 90s, some artists/groups flickered out (Zhane, Jade) and some soared, (TLC, MJB). Aaliyah was still soaring, and ppl who liked hip-hop wanted to support her new acting career AND see the film.

Or ppl into Twilight

@@niloufarmoezzi9139 Queen of the Damned came out years before Twilight. Anne Rice's characters were THE sexy vampires back in those days.

They turned bronze from the sun. Vampires like akasha and enkle were powerful enough to go in the sun, but still burned to some degree and would turn bronze. However, they were usually described as being like marble.

Relatable

@@bixler3463 heh. It came out when i was like 17 or 18 and just getting into the goth scene. There are some nice memories involved.

@The Dark Overlord I won't disagree with you there, but I generally watch the same stuff over and over. I love it when people don't have the patience for a good slow burn horror movie.

What other bad movies do you like ?

I'm not going to lie: as a young goth, the literal only reason I went to this movie was shirtless Stuart Townsend and half-naked Aaliyah. And yes, I was fully aware that it is a bad movie. We need our eye candy too.

@@XaurielZ I'll gladly watch this over Twilight

@@darkservantofheaven any day!

I miss my black mesh shirt. I miss Peter Steele. I miss the irony of both those things.

The goth kids from South Park would be ashamed of all of you.

3rd Album, which charted better than the previous 2. Romeo Must Die was her first film and only released the previous year. She wasn't a household name yet but would have been (she kind of became one after the crash but let's not go there), by definition up and coming because she was still fresh and hadn't yet plateau'd career wise, there was a lot more coming her way. It's kind of like Kelis, she had two album's before "Milkshake" effectively made her a household name. Didn't mean she was unknown before Milkshake, her core audience obviously did, she just hadn't peaked in the mainstream yet.

talk to em

She was only 21. She should have been at the beginning of a very long, successful career.

Eh, well, she seemed pretty famous to me. But I was like 12 and my only media was MTV so I guess that effected my view of who was a household name.

@@MsBritnia Aaliyah was famous to people who were into pop and R&B in the late 90s, but she wasn't at a household name at the level where even grandmas had heard of her, like Beyonce or Lady Gaga are now.