Queen vs Rook Endgame - How to win and how to fight for a draw.

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A new endgame episode is coming up every Thursday! To continue the series, I have decided to cover the absolutely essential endgames every tournament player must know.
In this video I have gone over the seemingly simple, but in practice very tricky endgame, queen and king versus rook and king.
I have covered the winning technique for the attacker in 4 simple steps, and I have gone over two most common and most efficient drawing techniques for the defending side.
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@JustARandomGuySurfing 3 года назад

It's so hard i played in lichess against stockfish and i can't win. It's even harder than checkmate with knight and bishop

@isaiasduarte7385 3 года назад

I feel the same way.

@czapla233 2 года назад

checkmate with knight and bishop is easy because there is strategy which you can just learn and follow. rook vs queen is extremely hard because there is no repeatable strategy which will help you with getting philidorf position.

@yusref5021 2 года назад

I also cannot mate :(, is there any video which teach that properly ?

@sourandbitter3062 2 года назад

it's not common knowledge, amateurs always learn the Philidor position, but reaching it against perfect defense is very difficult. There's a whole RU-vid playlist about it I came across a while ago. ru-vid.com/group/PLRdbvtd0qOHM5bTDgWrVyhCQrxtYnrfXV It's interesting, but I wouldn't spend much time on it, people don't play the computer defense and the KQ v KR endgame has a low probability of appearing, still much higher probability than KNB v K.

@mohammedissaadchihabeddine8488 2 года назад

It s as hard as check mating with two nights

@skylerqt5550 3 года назад

Please show us how to start in the middle of the board with queen vs rook vs stockfish and win in less than 50 moves.

@UnknownString88 Год назад

Is it possible?

@charlesfairchild3836 8 месяцев назад

@@UnknownString88yes

@MrCosinuus 4 года назад

Queen versus Rook endgame: You insane. One of the most complicated endgames, way more complicated than checkmate with bishop and knight. Studying QvsR helped me a lot wining Rooks with my qeen in middlegames ;)

@lenaweingraber4211 3 года назад

Summary: Queen From the Philidor Position, all you have to do is find the fork. Third Rank Defense: Put your queen away from the enemy king so that you can fork on the longer diagonal once the king and rook get seperated. Slowly force the King towards the corner to the Philidor Position (or just win on the way). Second Rank Defense: Beware Stalemate while again forcing the king into the corner. Don't blunder. Rook Try to get into the Third Rank Defense and just wait from there, stay resilient for 50 moves. If you can't, do the same from the Second Rank. Always try to keep King and Rook together, and lookout for blunders that draw or even win the game if white is careless.

@beri4138 3 года назад

@@alexis34270 Obviously he means win if white blunders the queen. Use your brain.

@Contakum 4 года назад

This queen vs rook endgame is a nightmare. I studied it some, didn't really understand how to do it, and then found myself in just such a game with me having the queen. My opponent blundered away his rook and I managed to win but had he put up perfect defense there is very little chance I could have executed that endgame correctly. And I STILL don't completely understand how to do it !

@HangingPawns 4 года назад

Interactive endgame lesson starts on twitch in 3 minutes! Link in the description. Viewers will suggest a position for analysis!

@hugobackman7890 4 года назад

You should maka a video on sicilian mengarini variation

@gerryjohnstone2100 2 года назад

Very clear and useful guide to an extremely complicated task. Thank you.

@nguyenhoaianh1797 Месяц назад

Thanks for your video! With some practice I have managed to play queen vs rook endgame.

@proflaxis6968 4 года назад

Derek Grimmell has an excellent course on Q v R. The best I have seen on The Web.

@Freemoonminecraft 3 года назад

I am so glad you did this video, I asked for one ages ago in the comments and people gave me grief as if I shouldn't have been asking

@prince2132 3 года назад

There is no straight forward method to solve queen vs rook endgame. I mean tackle any random position with perfect accuracy. The way to solve this is to reduce the initial position to next lowest distance to mate position. For example if the initial position is 10 moves to mate then the goal is to reduce it to mate in 9 moves position then to 8,7,6,5,4,3,2 and 1. If anyone interested to learn this step by step then check this ru-vid.com/group/PLVQF5gqzqrR4wXJsFGCqnZlJZatPenapD. In this you'll find compilation of puzzles for each distance to mate position. Currently up to 5 added.

@240dc 3 года назад

Great video. Thank you!

@andreymelnikov2814 2 года назад

Thanks, really great video! I able to win stockfish L8 several times. But not always. So... I will practice again and try to use ideas from video.

@dante350 4 года назад

Great video Stjepan. Helpful as always. Do you think you could maybe cover the theory on the Black Knights Tango for d4 openings? Would be very much appreciated 🙏🙏

@therealhardcase3844 4 года назад

as if you know exacly what i need to lern next about the endgame. Thank you.

@ezekielvannoy8392 4 года назад

I was literally wanting to know about this exact endgame yesterday haha

@anotherdude4180 4 года назад

Hi Stjepan, hi chess lovers! Queen vs Rook, what a nightmare! I tried to win it against Stockfish from random positions an guess what: I failed. It's not about basic checkmate, it is a full endgame, lots of things to know! Your explanation is a good example, but to really get through it I recommend Derek Grimmell and tons over tons of practice...nevertheless: The knowledege you spread is a HUGE GOODIE for us "normal" players!!! Thank you and stay healthy!

@isaiasduarte7385 3 года назад

Amazing video!

@TheJOVVA 4 месяца назад

Best rook Vs queen video imo, thnx!

@Guitare_picking 4 года назад

Amazing work

@blackbeltchess8197 2 года назад

Referred by ‘chess goals’ to your video even though I found your video beforehand. They simplify how to get the King to the edge of the board.

@chuazw 2 года назад

Nice video, appreciate the general principles. One question on the second rank defense (starting 15:44) - after 1. Qf5 Kd8 2. Qc5, Black has 2. ... Re6+. Doesn't this free Black up?

@stevemansfield8530 Год назад

At 11:09 another way (after 1...Ra6) is 2 Qc4 Rf6 (...Rg6 also loses quickly after 3 Kb5+) 3Qc3 Rh6 (other moves lose quickly) 4 Kb5+ Kb7 5 Qg7+ fork. Other moves by Black also fall to forced forking sequences. For instance, after 4...Kb8 5 Qg3+ and there is a fork coming on g7.

@chupapimunanyo2596 Год назад

If you try this practice on lichess with the queen against Stockfisch with the rook, I promise you, you will go insane mentally

@KR-P 10 месяцев назад

Now add a pawn with the rook.

@telin69 4 года назад

Thanks for your videos! Very useful and well explained. I've been training on this endgame. One question: at 13:08 after King c6 what happen if black plays rook g6 ... I don't manage to figure it out !

@saavedra29orig69 3 года назад

I was going to ask the same. White doesn't win.

@ToriYamazaki 3 года назад

That's exactly what the tablebase says is best. And this is why learning this ending is so hard. Continuation: 1... Rg6+ 2. Kd7 Rg7+ 3. Ke8 Rg8+ 4. Kf7 Rc8 5. Ke7 Rc6 6. Kd7 Rh6 7. Qc7+ Ka8 8. Qf4 Rb6 9. Kc7 Rb7+ 10. Kc8... wins. Duh of course... sheesh.

@scaptal 25 дней назад

Just failed to win this endgame up a queen, so here I am, thanks for the vids stephan

@seanohara9114 3 года назад

I'm playing the computer now, and this video covers everything except what the computer is playing. For example, at 17:25 after Qf6+, computer is going Kg8 and I'm lost lol

@lucaslee2115 2 года назад

Thanks 👍

@dennismays5692 2 года назад

Great practical video. ChessGoals sent me.

@khalilansari5786 2 года назад

Thank you Sir. Lots of love from India

@ProfJohnStats 3 года назад

Can you make a video and show how to solve a Fritz 13 Queen and Rook endgame? The black king is on e7 and the black rook on d7, the white king is on e5 and the white queen is on f5 and it is white to move. I cannot win this game. Thank you.

@Yornek1 Месяц назад

May 2024 comment, I followed those rules of thumb and checkmated stockfish in less than 30 moves!!! Thanks a lot @Hanging Pawns

@sumting_wong_witya1029 2 года назад

And here I was thinking this was an easy endgame. After I tried it in lichess against stockfish, I realized how tough this is.

@Wisdomx01 7 часов назад

Watched the video and started with kings on opposite sides of the board, still took me 44 moves

@fz25-darkrules37 4 года назад

Thanks for the video ji....

@patrickmoloney672 4 года назад

@hanging pawns - At 16:39 doesn't Re6+ allow the 3rd Rank Defense for Black?

@BJGunners 3 года назад

yeah this is what engine plays but u still end up forking the rook with non obvious moves

@daemonsoadfan Год назад

so hard, but thanks for video

@HonorOP 2 года назад

13:10 why would the rook come back to b7 instead of checking on g6 and drawing?

@karimaziz573 3 года назад

At 17:33, how do I win if the opponent plays KG8?

@Peakprospr420 2 года назад

Any video on queen rook Vs queen rook?

@levia9753 2 года назад

man i’m 1300 having so much trouble winning queen vs rook . is it just too hard to do against an engine? should i stop trying to beat an engine? thought it was clearly winning but i just spent like 45 minutes and couldn’t even win 1

@dr.grogsaudiostories 3 года назад

16:48 stockfish plays both Re6 + Kd7 here...

@andretheron8362 Год назад

The best online coach.

@briandwi2504 3 года назад

If you need to know something, Stjepan is the man!

@shuaibahammed7293 4 года назад

The second example the rook can block the check right

@morrownow 2 года назад

17:27 what if Kg8 which is what stockfish does 100% of the time?

@mitulcharak980 Месяц назад

At 13:08 the rook dont go to b7 instead it comes to g6 to check our king and it keep chasing the king Please help sir

@nomoreblitz 2 года назад

This is appreciated, but it is still quite incomplete, isn't it? In addition to the 3 root positions identified here, I think there are at least 10 more progressive positions needed (each with a few different subvariations) before attempting to practice a random start position against an engine.

@tiosom6293 11 месяцев назад

I able to push the enemy king to the backrank and rook to 2nd or 3rd rank but i dont know how to proceed, is veryhard, there a same position in rook sacrifices stalemate.

@jeffdeez1 2 года назад

I'm currently stuck on this endgame in lichess in the education tutorials.. I can only manage to draw a couple of ways. It's very hard to get the right geometry to fork the rook. I admit I am a noob, but this endgame ia killa vs the machine.

@1998XBOX 2 года назад

heard that an fm say that he also has trouble with that ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-g3XsaJ9fSc8.html&ab_channel=ChesscomIndia 2:24. Does not necesseraly mean you are a noob.

@particleonazock2246 2 года назад

Thanks - Garry Fang

@leenaoleenatarun 4 года назад

Hi Steven Thanks

@paulmorphy6314 4 года назад

It's not Steven. It's stjepan.

@parthchaudhary366 2 месяца назад

hi chess goals is recommended ur videos

@josephojemuyiwa8914 2 года назад

Stockfish refuses to get into the Philidor position, even with analysis there isn't a rhythm to the technique, just raw calculation all the way to the corner and if you make an inaccuracy you have to make 8 more perfect moves just to get back. when you get to the philidor position its easy but it seems so hard to get there.

@tatendaronaldbema9348 10 месяцев назад

@ChessGoals referred me here

@daemonsoadfan Год назад

lmao imagine the guy knows 3rd rank defense, you tryhard you manage to reach the 2nd rank defense, then you get tricked 16:11 and back to 3rd rank defense xD

@stevemansfield8530 Год назад

THere is a RU-vid as follows from Chess Goals which shows how to start with the defending side still in the middle of the board. URL ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-o44Wmbtz2Nw.html&ab_channel=ChessGoals. That video strongly recommended transitioning to this Hanging Pawns video to see how to manage things once the defending side had been driven to the edge of the board.

@JasaTheJale 7 дней назад

4y later 😅, but what if opponent after Qf6+ do Kg8 (insted of Ke8) - 17:30 👀

@andrewhudson870 2 года назад

I'm trying to learn this but in the position at 13 mins and 9 seconds on the video stockfish does not go back to be, instead he starts checking the king, what to do then?

@andrewhudson870 2 года назад

@hirakdeka4933 3 года назад

Great

@prince2132 3 года назад

@bernardthefourth 10 месяцев назад

Ah this is a hard one.

@Ashraf68224 4 года назад

You should collaborate with agadmator you're both from croatia it will be fun.

@alonthekiller 3 года назад

is it just a win for white if he has pawns on the board with the queen vs rook?

@Kkaran8404 2 года назад

If the side with the queen has a pawn then just give the queen for the rook after making sure the pawn can be queened and it is an easy game. And if the side with rook has pawns i have seen a win for the queen even against rook and two pawns tho it would be terribly difficult to win if defended properly

@jonathanbernhard5418 4 года назад

For everyone interested in learning this notoriously difficult endgame in detail - I've made a study covering everything you need to know, including some exercises to help you on the way. lichess.org/study/ZqgEdqxj I hope it'll be of use and that you'll gain something out of it! 😀

@divyam5935 9 месяцев назад

Came after nepo vs magnus draw lol

@Intuizon 2 месяца назад

Chessgoals brought me here.

@vrebds2484 4 года назад

I learnt an excellent end game idea here👌👍 #QUEENvsROOK What if my opponents also learnt from you 🤔😜 #3rdRankDEFENSE Thanks for the excellent content 🙏

@sebastianshandy658 4 года назад

No #were harmed

@vrebds2484 4 года назад

@@sebastianshandy658 I couldn't understand... please explain it...

@TheGT0000 3 года назад

3:45 actually king b8 not a8

@Sebastian-jq7uc 3 года назад

I cant sleep obsessed with this ending. So far this is the best video about it. But still far from complete. I guess it too complicated for a short video

@hilbertonfields 4 года назад

hey please a series on Queens indian

@ELOFIDE-sb3qk 4 года назад

Twitch stream?

@ELOFIDE-sb3qk 4 года назад

@Unsound Chess thanks

@gavinday5933 4 года назад

At 13m09 Rb2 would be non-optimal, surely Rg6+ wastes more time. No?

@transcendentalnoob Год назад

Chess goal sent me here

@carloschu7127 9 месяцев назад

Chess Goals sent me here. 😂

@wynlewis5357 Год назад

How would Carlsen do vs Stockfish if he had Q ? .. and how would he do with R ?

@commentwarrior 11 месяцев назад

With R he would melt

@uldiskurpnieks8189 Год назад

reffered by chess goals

@TheResilientvinod 2 года назад

Do we need chess board with pieces

@gsp_admirador 4 года назад

Helpful

@executive 2 года назад

Nice video. But I still can't do it. I suck.

@markt9075 3 года назад

16:42 "Ke8 is the only move." But Re6+ is also a move, and then what???

@lollycopter 2 года назад

Correct timestamp: 16:39 If Re6+, then Kb7 and keep inching your king towards them.

@bobbyb5710 Год назад

when you say lose the game you mean draw right?

@Biskawow 2 года назад

I wish someone would simply play pierce checkmate I challenge on lichess and show how they beat stockfish 14. because it didnt just move the king when third rank defense, it checked my king after queen moved and then moved the rook away again so I can't fork and then beck together... I am stuck, can't move. All the excercises until this one where easy to do for a begginer. All of youtube videos are made by people predicting defensive moves. Where can I find someone mating computer? (says "mate in 18 if played perfectly")

@dimarcinho Год назад

Comming from ChessGoals

@Novak2611 2 года назад

3:47 not a fork

@user-pc7yn8ee4b 6 месяцев назад

Can you beat him?: ru-vid.comsxg86-UdIkI?si=8DoH5dH8VA03dhZv

@jamesmcdonagh2331 Год назад

What you are playing is usually with other pieces together in conjuction with the play..this doesn't work because of this reason. the bigger play is been ignored. Misleading this .

@humanrightsadvocate 2 года назад

ChessGoals 1.53K subscribers sent me here

@bobbyb5710 Год назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ApSckfOt43A.html why, the king can be chased away? Kc6 is a horrible move as you suggest.

@sahilbaori9052 4 года назад

So basically, queen and king is winning against rook and king

@bed693 4 года назад

(If the player with the queen knows what they are doing)

@MozartMartins Год назад

Did a GM took almost 50 moves to win this final? This is sad to me...

@MozartMartins 9 месяцев назад

I am still trying...

@bekpamper7376 Год назад

No explanenation about how to force the king to the corner. So what's the point of this video if you don't explain everything?

@builderphill1361 9 месяцев назад

Who's here from Magnus vs Ian 🙋

@yiranchen2906 3 года назад

I see Terra Mystica

@HangingPawns 3 года назад

Yup. My second favorite board game:D

@nutritionandphysiology8023 Год назад

none of this makes any sense. I'm sure if you already understand how it works, you understand it. This is not explained well for someone trying to learn how to checkmate with queen vs rook. The concepts are not clear at all, or rather how to achieve those concepts.

@Yornek1 Месяц назад

You have to practice to make sense of it.