Quest 3 - Still Worth it or Just Over Hype? 

Is it the same thing just better? Also can I play with meta quest 2 users

I returned it. My first experience with VR and I have to say, there is no worse way to play games I've ever experienced in my life and I will never go back to VR again as long as I live. I hated every single aspect of the experience. Never again as long as I live.

same here, the 30,800mAh 25 Watt power bank I got from Amazon over a year ago for my Quest 2 is giving me 8 extra hours on my Quest 3. I use it with the original strap by sliding it between the 2 overlapping straps in the back of the original Quest 3 strap.

WARNING CHARGE OUTPUT OVER 9 WATTS CAN EXPLODE THE BATTERY

@@josiebobos their is truth in that statement regarding the battery exploding; however, their are a few safeguards in the modern power-banks and batteries that are designed to prevent 'exponential thermal runaway' that tends to cause them to explode. thus; some such safe guard's have become identified as "overload protection" and "short circuit protection" (of which is really more of a regulated standard than that of a optional feature).

Doesn't the quest 3's charger output 18w to begin with?@@josiebobos

@@MangoniaMoo yes, Quest 3 is stocked with an 18 watt charger. From what I have seen the headset will negotiate up to a 22 watts until the unit either reaches 80% charge or the battery hits too high of a temperature thus throttling down the charging power down.

MR requires more complex processing since it has to integrate real world objects with virtual ones.

what is mr?

@@landon.segers Mixed Reality

120hz is useless imo it just make it use more power than it needs to

do yaw think the quest 2 is better for gorilla tag?@@Spongebobber463

Thanks for sharing

Thank you and glad you enjoyed. That’s a great question. I may take down the video and add that but I personally prefer the viewing quality of the Quest 3 then the pro especially when working and using it as a computer monitor, this is including viewing videos. But now I’m going to but the black levels to the test.

I haven't bought one yet, but I have read that while recording the video doesn't show the real view of the headset, it's postprocessed. So yeah, the image is not good.

BoboVr M3 with two swappable batteries gives me 4 and a half hours of battery which is more than I'll ever play in one sitting

Is the upgrade from the RiftS very noticeable (Like night & day) or should I continue with the Rift S

@@CompleXplaygames I found it very noticeable.Then again, I went from the Rift S to the Index which was a huge jump. Then the Quest 2 which was a little less quality than the Index and now the Quest 3 which I find better than the index.

I dunno but I'm coming from quest 2 to quest 3 and didn't notice any battery problems compared to quest 2. I haven't tracked battery life rigorously though

Whats the brand for the cable?

Same, but I keep my link cable from Q1 and it has very good charge compared to others

If anyone is wondering, the quest 3 has a max resolution of 2064x2208 and g2 has 2160x2160. I doubt you would be able to differentiate.

Resolution is not the accurate measurement for VR headsets. Instead, you use PPT. Quest 3 actually has a significantly higher PPT at the mid 20s compared to the high tens of most other headsets, which basically means that you will get much less screendooring which is really the only difference in pixel quality.@@YourBroOreo

@@moodlethenoodle I’ve had a lot of vr headsets and resolution jumps are definitely noticable not just ppt. Jumps in resolution are very noticeable.

@YourBroOreo you're right but I feel like ppt plays a larger role than resolution alone based on my experiences

@@moodlethenoodle idk in my opinion i noticed biggest difference going to a higher resolution, then once you are at high resolutions ppt starts to really matter.

Lol I had my quest 1 for so long, I got the quest 2 a year after it launched, I just got the quest 3 yesterday, I must say, it's a huge performance leap between q1 and q3

I absolutely agree. If you expect the second coming of God like some creators then yeah you will be upset. But for half the price of a new phone it's pretty nice.

totally agree guys with you. Issues are overblown to be honest. And 500 dollars is not like a ton of money for a VR headset. In today economy at least

I'm upgrading from the Oculas Go to a Q3.

have a good VR experience guys. I think you'll be impressed!

No law was broken. If you read the text dude open your eyes.

Doesn't you need a bunch of third party stuff to enjoy quest 2 too?

@@MrKinein Not really. I still use the basic head strap. Only thing i really needed to buy was a longer charging cord and i got that off Amazon for like $15.

@@nny156 I dunno, default head strap is a little better in quest 3 than quest 2. It is generally an improvement to change it to another more rigid one however not necessary. Yeah battery a little weaker on the device, I didn't notice any difference comparing the two (haven't done any reviewer style\scientific tests though). I think reviewers overblow the problems, especially necessity of the headstrap. It's the same as for quest 2. May be if you use quest 2 for full battery life at once you will notice a little shortage

Curious, what is your first favorite?

@@Armando724 His Japanese sex doll..whadda ya think? 🤣

I want to know it too!

So you’re not gonna tell us your favorite?

@@uPSIDEdOWN577 spoiler alert, nope 😂

I just feel like Steam/PC VR will forever be a niche, even if consumer VR actually explodes by lets say 2030 with PSVR3 and Quest 5. Once we get affordable consumer based VR/AR with 4K per eye, Micro-OLED, 120d FOV, with headsets transitioning into a glasses-like form factor that's when VR/AR will truly catch on with the masses. Plus, motion duplication from 60fps reprojection seriously needs to go somehow. I guess 90fps needs to be the default standard for now to by pass that nasty effect. Most people don't want to wear a headset on their head, and 2K per eye probably isn't good enough for most people, especially for AR, and the Quest 3 doesn't really have that many 3rd Party AAA heavy hitters either. There isn't anything that can match the quality of Resident Evil Village or RE4: VR Mode on PSVR2. It's going to take a Quest 5 in late 2029 to come 'close' to the power of a Vanilla PS5. Yet the PS5 Pro will launch later in 2024 with at least 20 Teraflops, making it 2x as powerful as PS5. lol. Quest will never be able to catch up. By 2029? The PSVR3 wirelessly connected to a PS6 will be in a completely different league than Q5 power wise. But it's not all about graphics, once you get to a point it should be good enough for most people. Stand Alone VR is cool and all, but i prefer the idea of using a VR/AR Glasses/goggles with a wireless connection to a powerful console, with zero image compression and minimal additional latency. PSVR2 is the closest thing to that at this point, but it's held back by the cable, fresnel lenses, bulky front visor, ring'd controllers, OLED mura and discomfort around those nose area.

@@NeonPizza80s Things do keep getting crazy. I am old and have built my last gaming PC. It should last me 10 years (especially if I can upgrade the GPU in about 6 years). 10 years from now? Gaming will look nothing like today. I can already game online using an Amazon Fire device with Luna. 10 years from now? We may have 4K per eye contact lenses.

​@@NeonPizza80sEven though I agree with you that PCVR is a niche, I should add my pinch of salt. First of all - it is kinda easy to port game on PCVR. Most of the time you develop it as PCVR game first, and then port somewhere, because development is on PC itself. So that's why we probably will get ports of PCVR for a long time. Second - as for me, it is way cheaper to buy PCVR games. There's a lot of sales, there's a local prices for other countries. I've bought a lot of games for 1-2 dollars. That's why I'm sticking with PCVR. And PCVR graphics is more stable. I'm not here to advertise PC master race, I'm loving my PSVR 2 and Quest 2 exclusive games too :)

no not really. I got the 512 on my quest 2 and still havent filled the space. the devs have done a great job keeping the games around 5 gigs

@@JohnDoe-gn3rg cool, thank you

Yeah I agree, I think 128 gb is enough@@jayvee3165

For real they would benefit from ppl buying a shitload of games

there would have to be quality games there first, there is still a long way to go before the games will look good so that people don't mind paying €40-€60 for them.

It'll be a huge jump, it would be worth waiting until after Christmas, because there will be loads for sale cheap when people get motion sickness.

yeah I agree about cheap used headsets, however keep in mind that right now asgard's wrath 2 is for free for new buyers. It is like 60 dollars discount if you definitely buy one

@@MrKinein True, AR2 looks amazing!

So how's it in comparison? what's your favorite headset?

please tell your opinion now between two since i want to get psvr 2

@@Bos_Meong Quest 3 is a home run. 100% no brainer. The official charging dock, Elite Strap, Silicone User Interface and getting a chrome cast for TV casting are also a must. PSVR2 on the other hand has too many problems. But if you can fight through the PSVR2's tethered cable, awfully small sweet spot, major lack of comfort due to the lack of nose padding(It winds up resting on the bridge of my nose based on my head shape), OLED Mura, crappier motion, god rays etc, you might still be in for a good time. It's worth getting imo, just for Resident Evil Village. That's the holy grail VR showcase. Then there's RE4: VR Mode, Vertigo 2, Moss: Book 2, and a few others. Once I'm finished up a few more titles I'm boxing this thing up and just sticking with Quest 3. Going back to VR2 is just rough for numerous reasons. I really hope Sony does a revision, because as is this thing doesn't have a change at selling well no matter how many good exclusives it gets.

Wow, where did you get it? Is it 128GB? Thanks,

@@ellensamir374: Facebook Marketplace, ironically (128gb)

how did you find it at 250 😭

why Pico 4 is better?

@@MrKinein For PCVR? Both are good. The Quest3 is slightly better, but not really noticeable. Let's say it is subjectivily better. But standalone it is definitely better than the Pico4. If you want a device only for PCVR, well, for the price you're much better off with a Pico4.

@@SjaakSchulteis I thought that Pico 4 is better for PCVR somehow. Why it's better for the standalone? given that quest has a lot more games and better functionality

@@MrKinein I think you misunderstood me. The Quest3 is much better for standalone. The Pico4 is even worse than the Quest2! But for PCVR it is almost equal to the Quest3. I would say that the Quest3 is just a tiny bit better in PCVR. Sometimes I think I notice a difference, but that is like comparing two good cars from a different brand with eachother...

@@SjaakSchulteisokay, I understood now. Good. Have a nice day :)

relax. You can play it with PCVR. You don't need extra storage. You can play wired or wirelessly

way better of course. Gear VR is one of the cheapest ones, and it's old. Here you'll have full headset with new lenses. In short what you will get - more sophisticated games, pass through mode and mixed reality games (they are just a novelty), an ability to play in games using full hand tracking, an ability to play PC VR games wired or wirelessly. That's all.

I'm coming from mobile vr 🫥

have a nice VR experience guys :) I think it will blow you away

@@MrKinein it indeed has

@@MrKinein it really has

Yes

So you have a problem with your youtube player? There's an option "Other" and you can choose quality manually (like 1080p). If you say Quest 3 has blurry visuals, from my point of view it doesn't. It has weak passthrough video quality but good VR visuals

It will be more expensive though, the quest 3 is already too much for most people, the quest 2 still sells faster then the Q3.

Lmao thanks for the catch. My fault for being in a rush.

@@HotshotTek np! Great video btw :p

Just go with 128 gb. May be you will not be able to download like 4 biggest games on store. But for example one huge game and 5 normal ones are possible. In short - with a little care you will not notice problems. Excluding big games average ones are around 5 gb.

Me too, daily player almost, almost sweating haha, i bought the 3 and at first it was unplayable, when turning i had micro stutters, it feld as if big box tried to show off and put more tea into the cup than it can hold, but yesterday i retested(am about to send it back) and now it wasnt only buttery smooth but cristal clear.. playtime, yes, buy a powerbank. But i must say i believe i will stick to the rift in pop because its the system i learned it on and the pop up situation still is better.

Just strap an external battery on, problem solved...!

Great review ! What head-strap did you buy? Still liking your setup?

Are you seriously gaming for 12 hours at time…

@realworldclips8151 My longest play session was 16 hours in one go. That was playing No Man Sky. But, I mainly pop on the Headset sit in my Massage Chair and play for a couple hours. 2-4 hours average is my gaming times.

@@WOojerVest3andQuest3onMe What head strap did you buy?

@@RonaldEpstein I bought one off of Amazon I typed in One Click Stretch and Retract design Brand name Mes Merry it was $30 ‘’Very Comfortable’’

Have you tried it? As a user of several headsets and owner of Quest 3 I should say that most of your points are valid in theory but in practice it doesn't really matter. 1 - the microphone - really can't tell coz don't play socially. By reviews it is worse but not awful, it's usable and even can be quite good in some models\on some heads. 2 - never noticed tracking problems, from my tests tracking is better and faster than for quest 2. 3 - yeah you right it flimsy, flimsy when you fiddle with it. If you use it rarely and carefully you'll never have any problems. 4 - overheating? I dunno, never saw it. If you avoid adding bumper-case for headself itself it should be okay. May be it will get hot, but you will not notice it in any way. 5 - Battery life is okay. It's problematic if you play high end game at 120 hz or mixed reality games. But for example in beat saber headset works for 2 hours or more, it is way more than what my playtime is. And Quest 2 never had good longevity either. Other issues you've listed are negligible too. They can be a problem, but only for a minority of users. Yes you probably need to add accessories for the full potential, but it was again the case for Quest 2 too. As of "it should be perfect for that price" - oh common. It is only 500 dollars. It is definitely on the cheap side compared to the market. If you recall the Quest 2 was at the time at $400 price tag, also add some inflation compensation, and you'll get something in that ballpark

@@MrKinein I have Quest 2 and use it a lot. I mostly "play" social games and microphone is very important for me. Now that the Quest 3 is more common, I noticed that, people (in those games), who are using Quest 3 in most of the cases sound worse, than people using Quest 2 (some of them previously had Quest 2 and noticed that themselves) -> it's bad. Also, they showed/demonstrated to me, that tracking above the head is actually worse (than Quest 2) in some situations -> that is another minus. Almost all of the people were complaining about battery life and how they had to connect their headsets to the chargers during the game (also mentioning that the PC link almost doesn't charge the headset at all). The new thing, that I found out is, that the FPS wasn't as high as you would expect from the new and 2X more powerful processor -> 35 FPS for the Quest 3 vs. 25 FPS on Quest 2 (on the same location). For those people, who play more actively and clean the facial interface more often, the flimsiness of the mechanism could really become an issue in the future (Quest 2 was like a brick - you simply didn't need to worry about taking off the interface very carefully for washing). The price point is valid -> 300 USD Quest 2 (128 GB) vs 500 USD Quest 3 (128 GB) -> 200 USD difference is quite large (you can buy normal head strap, a good power bank and some other accessories or games for this money). I understand that Quest 2 is already getting outdated, but Quest 3 for its price simply isn't as good as Quest 2 was in it's time.

@@kanicaras I think you have a pessimistic look. There are some problems that were fixed, some were added. You overblow new problems. Yet I do agree that the most of your concerns are kinda real, especially the microphone one. I am glad that I've upgraded. A performance increase and new lenses gives a lot of new life. And the gadget is more compact and looks more slick - it's the thing that makes me happy sometimes. All of your problems haven't catched me really. You can be trapped in others report, others problems. If you combine tens and hundreds of people that negative about the device then you will think it's crap. And yes at the same time I am negligeable of the problems you've listed, just because I don't have this problems in my use case

Which packs did you buy and do you need a special USB C cord to properly power the Quest 3?

And you really play that much? hours and hours? I dunno, I love vr but play 1-2 hours at max at once

I have Quest 2 and Quest 3. For me both have comparable batteries. Didn't notice any problems there. It is not big, but it depends on what type of user you are. I'm using VR for an hour on average. Can use it several times a day. But need some break in between. From my experience battery pushed hard in this cases: when you play with friends online, when you play with friends offline (you give VR to others), when watching films, mixed reality drains battery quite faster As for most of VR games, you expect from 1 hour 40 minutes to 2 hours 20 minutes of the gameplay. If you connect charger or PC then you'll get more battery. It's your choice. I don't think that there will be hardware change in the any nearest future. The battery problem is the problem with almost all wireless VR. And it's not that big of a deal in my opinion. Just go for battery strap if it is that worrying for you.

Thank you, the audio is bad? I’ll look into it but nobody had said anything yet.

aliexpress, amazon or even meta store itself. They partnered with someone

totally agree. Prices for games add up fast if you play a lot

I totally agree. And it is the case for me even in quest 3. Even when I download 5-7 games, I have 50 GB left. Yeah if you download the biggest ones like Medal of honor and Asgard's wrath 2 all at once, as well as high quality VR videos, it will eat your storage pretty fast. But even in that situation - complete big games before downloading others

also dunno about them but I saw that in motion objects jitter way more

Yeah I see what you're trying to tell. However you need to understand that Meta subsidising VR headset. That means that they sell it at a loss. Just as a step up from quest 3 would be Bigscreen Beyond. It's a good step up if we compare PCVR only, and it is kinda small one if we compare whole package. Even not a step up at all. And get this - Bigscreen beyond at least twice as pricy (no controllers or trackers in the package) So what I want to say is that midrange PCVR would cost more than 1000 dollars if we exclude subsidising. Even valve index if we include inflation will cost more. And in reality PCVR is not as good thing to sell. It is niche of a niche (PCVR for PC gamers). So noone looks here. I know how that feels. I play a lot of PCVR too. But I think you can simply use Meta Quest headsets and enjoy it

the thing about the quest is: i tried the q3 from my friend, whos mostly into standalone. we brought it here, ive set up everything, used a link cable, set bitrate to 940, turn on skyrim vr and first thing ive noticed was artefacts and compression everywhere. compression algorythms dont get along with foliage, gras, leafs etc and skyrim is full of that. i cant stand that. i rather take the lower res on my index, then having the feeling of watching a 720p video full of compression on youtube everytime i move an inch@@MrKinein

@@dharkbizkit I dunno, never noticed a compression on wired connection. For me wired quest looks better than standalone (in resolution-picture quality sense). It is either special case for Skyrim, or you setted it up wrong. Or may be you overly sensitive to this stuff. By the way I use PSVR 2 sometimes. It's a true wired headset. Haven't seen a difference

tbh iam overly sensetive and know what to look for, due to video editing. its like beeing red pilled. once you know what and where to look, you cant unsee it anywhere .@@MrKinein

Do you have Quest 3, or just hypothesizing?

@@MrKinein I have a quest 3 a quest 2 and a index. My quest 2 sees more PC vr playtime because it's not negatively bound by battery life and over power drain.

@@CaptainOverLoad oh I think this drastic difference is more about power drain per second rather than about battery life in general. Quest 3 in reality has 1.5x more battery than Quest 2. It's just because of the lenses it needs way brighter display to overcome brightness loss. However pc usb-c cable brings same 5 V charge as it does for all devices. And it is way weaker for the charging in the end. I understand your problem, I'm may be not that power user and can agree for less playtime at once, just can play more frequent... For me all the upgrades overweight this problem

Yes, I noticed the issue after I finished recording, but please bear with me as I didn’t have enough time to redo it. Technical issues are normal, especially since I’m handling everything alone. I’ve purchased a few new things that can help prevent this next time. Maybe I should start a membership for viewers to hire a small team now.

yeah I agree. However it is kinda usable. Just such a let down comparing to the videos

It’s better now in v64 check videos

I wouldn't say that it is 10 times better, but it is definitely an improvement :)

Ping Pong game is awesome though. And some people use it only for the beat saber. And some people use it for VR chat only. It depends on person... probably

@@MrKinein Yeah my son only uses his for VR chat.

The Apple VR makes the Q3 look like a bargain.

It depends of what you need and what you want. For an average consumer it is easy to use fun device. If they enjoy VR a lot, yeah then you need to pay more for additional stuff (comfort, battery life). In my experience with "an average consumer" battery or comfort is not a problem at all. Even more - better headstraps are harder to use

I own quest 3 and I like it a lot. A better head strap is nice but not entirely necessary. VR is such a unique experience I just don't care about the extra 50 dollars I spend. I don't know what you guys are talking about It costs like 1/2 as much as a new phone is 100x cooler

@@liambongioanni5781 I guess this is your first vr headset.

It's your experience. Thanks for sharing. For me all good, but I bought a third party strap. Battery is not a problem for me, never play more than 2 hours at a time

Just buy a batter bank bud. Not rocket science

Totally agree, especially for first time experience (if you want to stick with VR at least).