Quest for Camelot (Musical Hell Review #83) 

*coconut noises*

joyunicycle IT IS a silly place. Where is "tis" coming from?

@@equusquaggaquagga536 "Tis" is old English for "it is", plus I'm pretty sure that's what they said.

joyunicycle 1. "Tis" isn't old English. It's nonsense. 2. Graham Chapman said "it is". A popular misquote like "Luke I am your father" or "hello Clarice".

@@equusquaggaquagga536 I can tell you with certainty that tis is an actual word and a contraction for it is (I looked it up). If you don't believe me that's fine, we agree to disagree.

Hah, though the same, I also read the Inheritance Cycle xD Although I think in this movie, a herd of dragons is a murder... of comedy.

I was gonna comment myself but I figured someone would have done it

Oh that's awesome. I thought it was a colony. I like Thunder a lot better

I'll have to remember this. It's perfect

I do Care, thank you

Pun intended, or no? X'D

The 'post-Aladdin Comic Relief' trend that ruined this movie (and Hunchback, and others) really cements for me that movie studios really are just a cargo cult. They don't actually understand what it is that makes audiences like things, so they blindly ape formulas with no understanding of context, and more often than not shit out literal garbage with no idea it's terrible until it hits theaters.

@@iusethisnameformygoogleacc1013 it didn't ruined the Hunchback of Notre dame because it already had a really powerful story. And these characters only appear for a few scenes and not a central focus of the feature. And, I have to admit they can be entertaining. They don't even have a central focus in a scene, they are not loud, take all the focus, or doing unnecessary pop jokes, they didn't ruin a movie that took all the steps beforehand. It had a dark and powerful story, memorable and complex characters, unforgettable songs and more. How are freaking three characters that barely appear in the whole movie, barely doing something stupid, barely interrupt the story and are pretty funny ruined such a fantastic movie?!

What if this movie's ideas was done properly by Studio Gibli? I saw acommentor somewhere else bring up that idea.

And the animation is decent too! Absolute waste.

A bit like Val Kilmer in the same year's Prince of Egypt (a far better movie)

@Rebecca Woolf Yes, sorry that's actually what I meant. They got someone else to do the singing parts even though he actually can sing. Should have been clearer, sorry.

@@IgorsDen yeah I've always thought that Prince of Egypt is a really good movie and is probably one of my top 5 DreamWorks films.

At least he made up for this film by giving a great performance as the voice of Lord Shen in Kung Fu Panda 2.

​@@MovieFan1912does Gary regret doing this film?

I LIKE it!

Bonus: Nimue resents how Sir Lionel trains Gareth almost like they're father and son, yet Merlin seemingly ignores her desire to have greater control over her magic, treating her more as a servant than an apprentice. At the end Merlin fills us in that he was training Nimue to learn self-control and patience and when it's appropriate to use magic, but she failed his lessons.

@@thirteenfury God, and that would make Gareth's relationship with Merlin not only a lot more specific (as oppposed to the vague hinting they did in the original), but really heartbreaking and a further counterpoint to Kayley and Nimue. They both resented their respective mentors... Gareth loved both of his. And the two of them being gone means that there's no one left who doesn't believe he's worthless because of his blindness, hence his self-imposed exile. We are just gonna write a better movie right here in this comments section... XD

thirteenfury And perhaps this lack of self control and patience leads to her eventual demise.

if we're writing a better movie in the comments, then I feel like we should also fix the romance between Kayley and Gareth, and for this, I think the framework that's set up will work beautifully. basically, Gareth thinks that his training was cut short, and now that no one believes in him anymore, he'll never be able to complete it or take up his desired position as a knight. but really, he has all of the core qualities that one would expect to see from a knight. he's already naturally inclined to be empathetic to people in need, especially because his own life circumstances have been so hard on him... and his time in the forest has forced him to use the combat skills he learned in practical ways every day, and even develop some of his own based on how he functions without his eyesight. he's a bit unconventional when compared to a classically trained knight, but he does what's most important for a knight to do morally. and this is what he would teach Kayley. I'd love to see her being actually fairly competent in a fight, or with a sword, because her ambition to become a knight causes her to actually practice a lot... but maybe she's a bit self centered, and finds herself in situations where she can protect and defend herself just fine, but fails to really help anyone else with her actions in the moment. she has all these grand ideas about what it would take to win a glorious victory, but she gets so fixated on checking all the boxes for a good adventure, that she forgets to act like a good person. which isn't to say that she'd actively be a bad person... but she's really much more used to looking out for herself first. and you could give her a backstory full of people doubting her, which made her super extra extremely eager to prove them all wrong... but also gave her a very adversarial relationship toward other people in general. but Gareth and Kayley could definitely connect in terms of people doubting their capabilities, and Gareth being the empathetic person that he is in this version of things, would probably recognize some of Kayley's bitterness at being treated like she was never going to amount to anything. he'd probably have to soften her up a bit by actually recognizing her legitimate talents before she'd really start to listen to him, and he'd probably be totally frustrated with her at first, but his frustration might just be that he sees an unflattering reflection of feelings that he's felt before when he looks at Kayley. it makes Kayley into a competent yet flawed character, and it makes their eventual feelings for each other make a lot more sense. and it also connects them via their mutual aspiration to measure up to Sir Lionel. Kayley wants to prove herself to be just as good as her father, and Gareth wants to do right by his mentor... they're both chasing the same inspirational figure, but with entirely different emotions as the driving force behind their tenacity. and the formation of their bond would also be entirely wrapped up in the plot, because a lot of these feelings would come up as the result of battling against the main villain.

The Nostalgia Critic's revews have always been intended as more funny than analytical. Even if he sometimes touched upon good talking points, in the end they were mostly accidental. Diva touches on the problems with this movie far better, though at the same time, there's a lot of good to be found here if you're willing to forgive the film's studio-mandated flaws.

That's because the Nostalgia Critic review of the movie was too damn cynical and old. These days, the Nostalgia Critic is less-cynical.

@@ingonyama70 It's a pity that this movie isn't getting a remake just to compete with Disney.

Explain movie! EXPLAIN!

@@xgray2012 He's less cynical, but nobody watches him anymore.

Only true goffs would get this reference, no fckn prepz allowed!!1!!eleven!

Don’t you mean Enoby

@@EmmaForman28 ebony's name is ENOBY nut mary su OK!

Damn that reference popped out of nowhere but Im not complaining.

Where he put his thingy in her you know what and they did it for the first time?

And now for something completely different.

That calls for some kind of award, then :).

HELP HELP, IM BEING OPPRESSED!

@@crazystairs7124 NOW WE SEE THE VIOLENCE INHERENT IN THE SYSTEM!

That's where the comments section comes

I freaking loved them, I was like, damn this needs some light hearted comedy and boom conjoined dragons 😂🤣

There timon and pumbaa done wrong

Side note, the movie apparently doesn't know the difference between trolls and ogres, which is strange, because I don't think they have anything in common.

The song is very lovely and I think it could have been a saving grace *if* it had a completely different scene animated for it.

Well put. Especially your last point. Once the song ends, KAYLEY claps and then acts like the song didn't happen.

Yes SuperFan MusicMaker! FUCK YES!

Which episode confirmed that Genie can time travel?

@@jacksonlennox5947 I don't remember the exact one, but one episode has a throwaway joke where he's shown fighting in an actual historical war (the Napoleonic war, if memory serves)

@@superfanmusicmaker I don't know if it's the same episode, but I did see one recently where they had to conveniently say that Genie was out of town "hanging out with some friends," and he was folding a newspaper hat with Napoleon. That episode is called "Vocal Hero" in case anyone wants to check that out.

I think he regrets taking the role

I'm sure that line humiliates him still to this day!!

that's not a sentence. that's a noun! that's not even a good noun!

Classy.

# Poor Gary Oldman

It also doesn’t help that Garret looks like the beast in his human form

She really doesn't...and to be fair, Disney did make the villain in Mulan look like an Asian emo version of the villain of this movie...so I guess they're even.

i've heard that before

And her mother even more so

PhoenixRising87 This is utter bull crap! XD The designs for Mulan had been finalized long before this sorry Camelot failure was even in production. Do you have any idea how quickly development art and model sheets leak around the studios, once it’s made available to the crew? People lunch, after all, and the studios were not far from each other at the time. There might be a slight resemblance (and that’s really a stretch), but if anything, WB had their hands on the Disney model sheets long before the designs for this turd were done, and likely ripped the Disney project off. Disney Feature Animation even had an in-studio screening of Camelot to laugh at and show exactly how NOT to make an animated feature! It was hilarious!

Tell me...what do "evil" people look like?

PhoenixRising87 um....

@@PhoenixRising87 In lazily written movies with lazily designed characters? Literally that guy. With all the sorts of traits the video specifically names when introducing the villain as a topic.

Dunes8 I never understood why animators rely on that trope so badly. You can make a villainous character without making look OBVIOUSLY evil (look at Gaston, Mother Gothel, and even Frollo). If you have to draw them evil-liking from the bat, at least explain why that is. A nice backstory for the guy would’ve made sense, heck even his song would’ve been a nice way to explain how he became the way he did.

they could have made him look normal at first, and get progressively uglier and twitchier as he descends into madness and meddles with dark magic, that would have been way more interesting

The film they murdered still became a success when it premiered on Cartoon Network for 24 hours.

It seems funny that The Iron Giant became successful when Cartoon Network pulled a TBS Christmas Story, and played it for 24 hours.

And yet, one of these movies appeared in a Spielberg film and a fighting game 2 decades after it flopped.

Given what happen with HBO MAX purge it is still going now.😢

@@SuperEasywalker that feels less like Warner Bros. micromanagement and more like Discovery’s management being total imbeciles.

Come to think of it, I knew a Kayley and a Garrett once.

I think it could have worked if we had seen Kayley from her mother's perspective, looking out at her over a distance as she sang. We could still see Kayley being chased, but would feel more for the mother.

Yeah. A better chase sound would be Prince Caspian’s escape from well…Prince Caspian

This is a bit like what you'd get if you bleached the Disney classics of everything that made a given movie unique and tried to fund the average of the rest. And then added annoying comic relief, because only post-Aladdin Disney films had that kind of it.

If anything, I think this is what modern Disney probably think their Disney classics are like, resulting in their mediocre to lousy live action remakes.

@@oscarstainton That's pretty obviously false. Modern Disney has consistently framed its remakes as fixing mistakes made in the original. (Whether the mistakes were there, the repairs successful, or the original plot framework suitable to be repaired rather than replaced... let's call those inconstant factors.)

The same basic contempt from the studio towards their own animation legacy is apparent. Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin and The Lion King didn't need "fixing" yet here we are with three vastly inferior "live action" movies. And when talking about the problematic elements of older or more recent films (alleged or otherwise) that should still be open to conversation rather than trying to pave them over.

It's more like what people who've never seen a Disney classic think Disney classics were like.

I would make Kaylee someone who is a person who likes to think outside of the box and this comes into play with one of the biggest changes I’d make to the movie which is to make Cornwall and Devon two separate dragons with contrasting personalities voiced by John Cleese and Dom Deluise respectfully. They are still outcasts in dragon society but this time it’s because they refuse to fight any knights which is a huge milestone into gaining acceptance in their culture. Cornwall is a pacifist intellectual dragon who believes that fighting knights is beneath him. Devon is your typical Dom Deluise coward who has a heart of gold and wants to help but needs encouragement from the protagonist to help him overcome his fears. Think Tiger from American Tail but as a dragon. Devon is terrified of fighting a knight and every time the word “knight” (and night) is said, he starts freaking out. Kaylee then comes up with the brilliant idea that if Cornwall and Devon help her retrieve Excalibur, they’d be helping save the day and in the process fight some knights which would help them be accepted by the other dragons as the rule is that a dragon has to fight a knight in order to be a part of dragon society but it never says that it has to be one of King Arthur’s knights. An evil knight would count because he’s still a knight no matter who he is working for.

Same. I hate so many parts of it but I also have seen it at least 20 times 😂

I have more likes than dislikes for it personally. Sure, the lead is nothing new and i did wish this was something different, but i just like the songs, characters and mythical feel of it all.

Same tbh

Hey, I like it, too, mainly for Eric Idle and Don Rickles, but David "HitMan" Foster did write some good songs, with "The Prayer" actually being a breakout hit. I think "Through Your Eyes" may have been as well. I remember hearing it on the radio more than once.

Hugh Mann I liked it, too. And, personally, I think people should cut Kayley some slack. I mean, sure, she wants to be the world's greatest knight, but, she isn't stupid! I mean, if you were unarmed and faced up against evil mutants that had weapons for hands, and you were terribly outnumbered, would you try to stand and fight or would you run for your life? Of course, one could argue that it didn't stop Garret from fighting them, but, Garret was trained to fight. Kayley was not.

SPAI-DERRRZ!

Spiders🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷

At least DreamWorks gave him an amazing role in 2011.

But hey, he went on to be Commissioner Gordon and Serius Black, so at least he's doing way better.

The lost in space tv show was cheesy but still dope.

Agreed. Why couldn't HE be this movie's protagonist?

Right??

Whats the procedure everyone? Whats the procedure?

WHAT IS CALM?? THIS WAS ONE OF MY FAVE MOVIES AS A KID TF AM I SUPPOSED TO DO

@@jamesoniris2647 *STAY [Beep] CALM!*

"What? No."

Lady Lexicon let's do this people. Just stay calm

You wouldn't even need to change the plot that much. Make Kaylee half the active heroine the movie thinks she is, even out the tone, and have Ruber's henchmen either not be comic relief or not the only way he gets stuff done 90% of the time, and the movie would at least rise a bit above the Disney Clone label. Define the main characters and cut the annoying ones on top of that, and you've got the potential to make a classic that clones the *good* parts of Disney along with the easy stuff.

I LOVED this movie then, and I still do now!

geardog24 I don’t understand this comment

If anything about this movie is good is the soundtrack. I still listen it from time to time.

If there is one good thing this movie did right, its the animation. The effects are stunning, the movements are very smooth, the characters have a lot of details and have a creative supply of character design.

Rebecca Woolf Yeah, pretty much.

That doesn't really flesh out kaley.

*weak

Ben Burke which is what drags the character down. I, for one, have never liked Urkel's shrill, nasally voice. It's like nails on a chalkboard.

Did he do that?

The guy also voiced Sonic in Sonic Underground.

From what I've read about the book, most of what I found memorable was a Warner Brothers addition. My intuition is that the original version (probably just a script or something) looked likely to turn into a fantasy movie without the mass-market appeal to draw a crowd through basic marketing or the quality and/or novelty to bring in viewers by word of mouth. That's what happened with Fan4stic, and probably a lot of other movies affected by studio meddling; what they had at the time didn't look like it could succeed on either its broad appeal or its genuine quality, so they hacked in one of the two and hoped for the least bad.

I wouldn't say it's all because of movies, so much as that it's influenced by how nearly all stories across basically all media accidentally reinforce this idea of "boy meets girl, plot happens, boy wins girl," which often gets stuck in children's understanding of the world before they're mature enough to make any meaningful friendships. The ubiquity of the romantic subplot and how it influences worldviews is a root for all sorts of twisted ideas about romance, like "nice guys are entitled to girls," "you need a relationship to be happy/normal," and "you need to keep writing romance subplots whenever two opposite-gender characters are in a plot that doesn't openly prevent romance...and maybe if it does".

Yeah, I’m sick of the whole “he’s a boy and she’s a girl so they should kiss” thing. Half the time, it’s just assumed that because a male and female character of roughly similar ages are in the same story, that’s enough for the audience to buy that they’re in love, so the romance isn’t really developed, so it feels forced when they suddenly start acting like a couple. Don’t get me wrong, I love a good romance-emphasis on GOOD. If you’re going to have a romance, it needs to be well-developed and serve the plot, not just be two characters suddenly kissing at the expense of the plot, especially when said characters have shown no hint of romantic chemistry until their sudden kiss.

One of my favorite parts of the film, its so cool, intimadating, and fluffy.

And he speaks like someone kicked him in the nads.

@@reasyrandom Yeah, it's pretty hard to be menacing when you sound like Balki. Unless you keep your mouth shut, of course.

That's actually pretty cool

Me too!

I mean the song only has over a MILLION hits on RU-vid. That’s really impressive for an otherwise forgotten movie.

All of the songs, for the most part, were pretty great. And (forgive the pun, it's not intentional) as stand alone songs, without the context of the movie as a whole, they're actually really beautiful and would probably do well if this had been literally any other musical movie. A movie that actually knew how to put these songs to good use. But, because of the storyline, and the way the songs are presented, the beauty is muddled. For instance, the Celine Dion song. I watched this movie when I was very young, and back then, her song bored me and felt out of place. Years later, when I was much older, it still bored me and felt out of place. Shortly after, I began playing a scuba diving game on the Wii, and the majority of the soundtrack was Celtic Woman music, and wouldn't you know it? They did a cover for Celine's song. And I LOVED it. It was gorgeous and I had so much fun calmly swimming through the water, listening to this song while I collected lost treasures and discovered new fish. I had no recollection of it being in this movie, at all. When I later re-watched the movie, it was jarring, because sure as sh*t, that's the song I love. I closed my eyes, and for the first time while watching this movie, I enjoyed listening to the mother sing her piece. It's a crying shame that the story falls flat, because with a good story to string them together, these songs would have been really, REALLY nice to watch and listen to. On My Father's Wings and Stand Alone are wonderful songs as well, if only they weren't attached to such annoyingly stereotypical characters.

While I agree somewhat (as an aspie, I related to that song a lot, so I definitely agree that it's awesome; in fact, Garrett is awesome. Someone should remake this movie with _him_ as the protagonist!), I feel like the voice mismatch was too much for Diva to consider it a saving grace. Which, honestly, fair enough.

@@silversamurai0267 Really, the only one that's actually bad is Ruber's Song, which was _probably_ supposed to remind us that he's a bit too insane to actually form a coherent song, but looking back, that's really NOT an excuse because I've seen better songs that play that kinda thing. Even "If I Didn't Have You" isn't that bad when you remove it from the movie's context--it was long and I believe still is a staple of silly AMVs.

I have an idea of how they could have incorporated the dragons and make them better in the process. First off they are two separate characters from the start and are voiced by John Cleese and Dom Deluise. They are outcasts from the other dragons because they refuse to fight knights which is a rite of passage for their culture. Cornwall is a sophisticated intellectual dragon who thinks violence is beneath him and Devon is your typical Dom Deluise coward. Kaylee then comes up with the perfect way for them to be accepted by the other dragons which is they help her fight Ruber’s evil knights and it would count as fighting a knight as the rule never says that the knight had to be one of King Arthur’s.

@brandon roberts Hey, we all have that weird shit we've watched.

At least it wasn’t Spongeknob Squarenuts

Diva was in kindergarten when it came out. I was 7 and I HATED it.

@@skyblueblazes9332 that reminds me, she could review that Spongebob Atlantis episode (Atlantis Squarepantis), you know, where everyone sang AWFUL songs *except* the one character voiced by David fucking Bowie. (eyup, they got David Bowie to voice a character in a musical and he didn't have any song whatsoever)

@brandon roberts You mean Ten-inch Mutant Ninja Turtles?

Jan Mikhail Gaid Yet “The Iron Giant” bombed at the box office due to “Quest for Camelot”. Yes really! WB attributed the box office failure of “Quest for Camelot” to people disliking the film because it wasn’t made by Disney. 🙄 Therefore, they decided to throw in the towel and not market “The Iron Giant” out of fear it would bomb at the box office, which it did anyway. 😂 I loathe the theory of *“people hate animated films because they’re not made by Disney”* because it negates the existence of great non-Disney animated films like “The Secret of NIMH”, “An American Tail”, “The Land Before Time”, “The Prince of Egypt”, “South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut”, “The Simpsons Movie”, and any of the “Hayao Miyazaki” films like “Spirited Away”.

@@beethovensfidelio Don't forget about AKIRA, Batman: Mask of the Phantasm and Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse!

Ben Bell Those are good ones too!

Jan Mikhail Gaid and the LEGO Batman movie and the LEGO ninjago movie.

Jackie Gonzalez Also great ones!

Because he’s too evil to cut his nails properly

@brandon roberts ironicaly, Dumbledore had some pretty long and smudgy nails because, old wizard and such.

Maybe he's one of those guys who thinks it's unmanly to get a manicure once in a while. In that case, he is evil (or at least fragile).

Evil people are banned from buying nail clippers.

Maybe he believes in the saying "I have more power in my fingernails..."

Maybe if they'd used the original Gaelic spelling, "Cèilidh"...

...or more like a Marillon reference

I was literally just talking to someone about this, like yeah, not an anachronistic name in the leeeeast. Definitely doesn’t lock the time period the movie could have likely been made into, roughly, the years 1996-2003, does it, “Kayley”? Maybe her sisters are named macKenzie, Tori, and Madison? Maybe she has a brother named Jayden or Chad.

@@elizabethashley42 I would have given this movie a lot more respect if that had been the spelling!

That would actually be hilarious.

Yeah, because it was going to be a straight-up PG-13 until executive meddling kicked in, which really upset her. Ditto on my part

Yeah, this isn't exactly a great project to appear on Faust's resumé...

On the flipside, Faust also worked on The Iron Giant.

ReasyRandom Amd Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends.

I saw multiple comments from animators and artists who worked on the film and they have nothing good to say about the project.

I pity you.

You aren’t wrong. (Edit: not all of it.)

Yeah, can confirm: His heel-face-turn is spurred by seeing his mate in a cage, at which point he presumably realized that Rupert had to be stopped. Would've been nice if the camera at least focused on that for a moment or two, instead of just letting it happen in the background before he speaks up.

Say what you about Mr Enter and his takes, but he brought up a good point about Bladebeak. The real question about his change of heart should be "Why was he working with Ruber in the first place?"

I know right? Gareth and Tristan would have tko'd Ruber's butt in 5 seconds flat too.You'd think Lancelot would be more involved, what with his brother Sir Lionel being killed tragically defending the king.

Sir Galehaut. Enough said.

The original novel didn't focus on any of the three or four standard Arthurian plot points, so Ruber is probably the end result of adapting the book's villain, then adapting that, then tweaking whatever came out, etc. @@metademetra The way I see it, any Arthurian story which brings up Galehaut the Uncrowned King is worth checking out. Not that I've found any...

You're not alone in this. I still think the character designs are awesome.

I've never seen this movie but I have to agree with you on the human/weapons hybrid thing. Just needs a better movie to go around it.

Same. It's one of the few things that I still thought was good about the movie after I grew up.

Dnd is full of that kind of creature they are always fun to run for a dm

This seems mostly like an issue of "Great Concept, Terrible Execution"

Separate singing voices in animated films have been a trend since Aladdin in 1992 with Brad Kane and Lea Salonga (who made Jasmime the first Disney princess to have a separate singing voice).

Jan Mikhail Gaid I know but they usually at least try to make it match. This is like getting Toby Keith to dub Patrick Stewart’s singing voice

Have you tried the Internet Archive Wayback Machine?

The Prayer is also very beautiful and it’s a shame how it was used in the movie. The idea of Kaylee’s mother praying for her daughter’s safety in the form of a song is a great idea and Celine did a great job performing it as always even without any of the long high notes she’s famous for.

Pretty much. (For the record, Inspector Gadget always irritated me for the same reasons. Penny deserved better!)

@@MusicalHell True. Though honestly I think the live action IG film did it worse. At least Cartoon Gadget was likeable. Mathew Broderick's Gadget is a soft spoken self esteem deprived pussy.

Hex Maniac Quinn maybe people wonder that because of the fact that when everything is being reversed Devon and Cornwall are separated till they decide to remain conjoined... but they were hatched like that so if they could have had separate bodies due to excalibur being returned to the stone it’s an argument for Garrett regaining sight. Just a theory for the reason why some think he should have been able to see again at the end.

Hex Maniac Quinn Garret might as well not be blind, because there's parts where he notices things that he shouldn't notice if he's blind. For example, he was the one to notice when Devon and Cornwall were flying. I'm like "How the Frank Frinklefelcker do you know they're flying if you're blind?"

@@mandieboudreaux8369 yeah, that's valid, but it's still nothing that would have been otherwise confirmed or alluded to, so I get slightly annoyed.

@@thomashuffman3237 I always just assume he felt or heard their wing flaps or where their voices were coming from or other such shenanigans. I mean he doesn't have a literal sonar like Daredevil, but other senses being heightened isn't an alien concept.

Hex Maniac Quinn That makes sense.

*NO SHIT, SHERLOCK!*

I stand alone too

I agree, I always found that fact low-key disgusting tbh

I think that if they were two separate dragons who decide to help the heroes out of the interest in stopping the bad guy to gain the respect of their peers who bully them because they are respectfully too cowardly (Devon) and docile (Cornwall) where the other dragons are aggressive and think that surviving a battle with the knights is a rite of passage to becoming a true dragon. Devon and Cornwall have never done this ritual and are passed the age that it typically occurs. Devon is afraid of so many things that he rarely leaves his cave while Cornwall despises unnecessary violence and would rather settle differences without fighting and this makes them both outcasts and each other’s only friends until they meet Kaylee and Garrett who help them realize that they are far more than that and that helping retrieve Excalibur could help the other dragons respect them because they would get to fight evil knights and it’d still count as completing the ritual as the rules never said that the knights had to be good guys.

I didn't even know this existed and now have a morbid sense of curiosity; How is it?

And that "My Father's Wings" scene is a total ripoff of Belle's reprise at the farm and Ariel's "Part of Your World".

THIS DILM TURNED ME INTO A NEWT!

@Rebecca Woolf ....got better.

@@hunnykun101 Me too! They always are so sweet and even pretty looking. I can't help falling head over heels for them.

@Anything. Lucy Hello! Glad to see a fellow Garnet enthusiast!

Nostalgia critic: unless you oh i don't know EXPLAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I’m glad Diva did this since I stopped watching all his videos

@@KariIzumi1 seriously you still hate him because of this bullcrap happen last year?

Diego Hernandez I have a problem with people who shit on their employees and cover up for known rapists, yes. Until and unless CA issues a real apology for what they’ve done, I’m happy to take my views elsewhere.

Katie Lewis thanks you.

Speaking of Italy, the original singer of "The Prayer" is Italian (Andrea Bocelli).

Does that count the stupid dragon song?

@@timothymclean eeeeeh it's kinda cheesy and all, but it's still delivered well so no complaints 👀

I mean, they have the same opion on it.

He's supposed to look villainous, which traditionally means both "scary" and "ugly". Quasimodo was supposed to look ugly but not villainous; it's not too surprising that Ruber looks like Quasi on meth and steroids.

No you're missing the most baffling detail: The thing they decided to start agreeing on was "humans be fine." All throughout the movie both characters were kind of skeevy, talking about wooing human women and actually lowkey ogling Kaley. And Garrett got them to agree on something by going "You both love Kaley, don't you?" Moral of the story: dragon boners solve your problems.

@@metademetra I thought that logic was dumb (or at least badly-phrased) even when I was a kid. I never put two and ew together like that, though.

@@timothymclean Yeah I'd describe this movie as weird, and 90% of that is because of the human ogling two-headed dragon that may or may not be the product of incest.

If there is a thing this movie got right its the animation. The characters are very creative in design, moves very smooth, the effects are stunning and have A LOT of detail.

crystalfairy912 Only to have that film bomb at the box office.

Mind giving a quick rundown for a layman like me who hasn't even heard of the book? 😅

I think they were thinking "Is THIS the day someone makes a mainstream adult animated film? No? The nation has to wait for Sausage Party? Well GREAT."

@brandon roberts In fairness, they DID make Hunchback into a kid's movie. With varying results.

enyacoladas The novel follows the experiences of Lynette of Arthurian Legend after she saves her sister Leonie from the Red Knight, covering the events of the original legends as a series of flashbacks and vastly expanding Lynette's character.

He needs to be taken to a nail salon

Pixar is Sprite/Fanta. Laika is tea.

Comparing Disney with Coke is actually pretty good: Both are unhealthy and sugary, both have shaped pop-culture in a way we don't even comprehend, and both are developing a grasp on the world's economy that I'm not ready to support anymore. I'll stay with Frizz Cola.

And PBS went on to copy the whole two-headed dragon concept for DragonTales!

TBH I personally think nearly all Disney movies would also be waaay better without their comic relief sidekick characters too 😬 The only exceptions I can think of off the top of my head are Lion King & Little Mermaid?

@@anna_in_aotearoa3166 Lion King is because Timon and Pumba actually add to the plot. They move the story forward. And they don't stop the movie for the dumb gags for the most part.

@@midwinterhunt Good point! Ditto for Sebastian, at least, in Little Mermaid.... I struggle to think of any useful story function enacted by the ubiquitous slapstick animal sidekicks in Pocahontas or Moana! 🤦🏻‍♀️

Holy fuck I never noticed that before 😱🤯

At least Hiccup still had his father until the end of the movie.

Mastodon! Pterodactyl! Triceratops! Sabre-toothed tiger! TYRANNOSAURUS!!!

Water! Earth! Fire! Air!

Cirrus Stratus Form feet and legs! Form arms and torso! And I'll form the head!

Garnet, Amethyst and Pearl...

ReasyRandom AND STEVEN

Me TOO

Oh this is gonna be soooo good!

Though Space Jam WAS a hit.

@@colleen4ever didn't say Space Jam was a flop; though now that I think about it, Jamalot may have also been a jab at the movie musical Camelot, which was also directed by Warner bros failing to recapture the success they saw with the film adaptation of My Fair Lady

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I'm not saying Garrett should have been cured--as you point out, that would have some bad implications--but that it's very bizarre that the possibility is raised and then avoided completely. Even Devon and Cornwall are given the option of splitting apart before deciding to remain as they are. If Merlin or someone had a handwave line to the effect of "the magic didn't heal you because you didn't need it to" it would have made more sense, albeit in a heavy-handed way.

@@MusicalHell yea I get that. Don't worry I wasn't accusing you of suggesting a cure would be good. I was more talking about this general idea in popular media whether it be books/films/stage plays/tv shows etc, that goes back some way that disabled characters are 'broken' and therefore should either die in order to get a form of rlease or be cured. I haven't seen this film, but I just found it odd that a bad looking animated film actually avoided this horrific trope. But anwyay thanks for the review and I really like your work.

That was my favorite part. The most unexpected and delightful part of the movie

TheSharpestofThorns ___ (Ezekiel) Zeke Hamish Beckley: Indeed (Donald Jay) Don Rickles will always be remembered as Cornwall and of course my Number 1 favourite Toy Story Pixar character Mr Potato Head. He died of a kidney failure and was 90 years old at the time. Still I'm frickin glad the Toy Story 4 movie did a tribute to him at the end of the film.

Not to mention some interpretations of Search Man have the ol' "two heads have different personalities" thing.

And nominated for an Oscar too, yes really!