In this episode we're answering your questions! Whats the difference between CEC and CIC? Do the tomahawks have redundant features? Can you fire the 16in guns? Can you light the boiler? What ships parts do work?
As a boiler engineer refiring a high pressure 600 psi boiler that has been sitting for 4 decades is the scariest thing I can think of and this includes loading 600lbs of gunpowder into a 16" gun
I worked at SIMA and when we had a ship reactivating we came on board and did a visual of the steam and mud drums and hydro every single down comers and associated pipe on every boiler D and M type. Before we could even think about lighting fires, also the fire box was completely refurbished ( new fire brick and block) was a little scary but it was a controlled evaluation. We did the Knox class frigates and they were 1200psi D type. Never had an uncontrolled issue.
@@largesleepermadness6648 there is something truly magical about working on boilers and they all have their own personalities. But if things go wrong they can go sideways so fast we had a handhole cover blow out a gasket while bring one online and up to pressure last year and that was a fun experience 😂
I'm not silly enough to ever ask about firing any of the guns. But to be able to demonstrate a traversing turret and elevating guns would be outstanding!
My younger brother was a Boiler Tech on New Jersey in the mid-80s. He had tested in to the navy's nuclear program (I was a reactor operator on Ohio-class missile boats), but he ended up admitting to drug use during high school during boot camp. He consequently did not enjoy serving aboard "The Battleshaft", as he so succinctly called it. The irony is, I'm the one in the family who loves old battleships, but I have to travel around the country to tour them.
It's interesting to watch these videos (especially the ones from the main spaces) and see the comparison to the ship I served on in the 80's, DDG-12. We were half the length and 1/12 the weight at 4500 tons and 435 feet of waterline and had the same propulsion system (2 instead of 4), with the main difference being we used 1250 psi steam at 1000 degrees. We refueled from the Missouri one time and I couldn't believe how big it was steaming at 10 knots just 120 feet away.
I was wondering why they used 600 lb boilers on such a large ship and used 1200lb super heated boilers on a DDG. I was on the DDG 5 Rickets in the 70s in the fwd fire room.
@@davidentrot5644 600 pi superheated steam was state of the art at the time the Iowa's were built. The 1200 psi plants were the latest tech in the late 50's when the Adams class were designed. Look at it like the switch from 6 to 12 volt systems on cars around the same time.
We were broke...Remember we did the Slum clearances in the 50's and 60's. Britain was not as wealthy as the US in the 1950's. We were beggars. Took us until about the 1980's and thatcher to get through the decline and start to be a modern country.
@@jimfrazier8104 I served in the Royal Navy, and if you care more about grey steel than flesh and blood you have a screw loose. It would have been "nice" to keep a BB, but needs must and nice was a luxury when people were still on rationing, streets still bombed out fron the blitz, and the returning troops had no GI Bill to help. When you are starving and devastated, a Government keeping a BB would be like Marie Antoinette saying "Let them eat cake".
Ryan put a lot of thought into firing the 16" guns. I'll admit I disappointed but not surprised. We do want a dignified and respectful display for this historic ship.
I hope New Jersey fans will pardon me for my USS Iowa perspective, but, as an Iowa native and lifelong resident, please excuse my point of view. (I cannot adequately praise Ryan enough for his outstanding presentations here.) Anyway, for the July 4th, 1986, unveiling of the restored Statue of Liberty, the Reagans sailed down the Hudson River atop Iowa's No. 1 turret. During that long live broadcast, ABC's Peter Jennings stated the big guns would not fire because they would shatter windows of nearby buildings. Peter Jennings at 5:00 mark. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-w_k8q244qvs.html
Just recently found this channel, and Bravo for the quality content. I’ve been lucky enough to tour about half the surviving battleships, but not New Jersey. These videos are making me put her at the top of my list!
This channel is great. Finally somebody is answering the questions I've had about these ships since I was a kid (and didn't have time to ask docents when I came aboard). Keep it up!
@battleshipnewjersey, Ryan, here's a little better picture of the relationship between CIC and CEC. BTW, I absolutely love the work y'all are doing in keeping what was my home ('87-'89) looking good and representing the life of a battleship sailor. CIC performed all of the acquisition and tracking of surface and air contacts in addition to maintaining a navigation plot. They also handled some, but not much, of the tactical radio traffic. Tracking and navigation information was then transmitted up to CEC for display. CEC also maintained their own (redundantly) surface and navigation plots, the air search repeaters were reserved for when we had to control air assets. The two Tomahawk consoles in the middle of CEC were the database terminals, used for the collection and display of theater-wide information (for the most part just long range surface contact information). The 2 computer terminals to the right of these consoles were a way to monitor the communication net used by the Tomahawk system to communicate between other operators (yes we shared a lot of important info i.e. sports scores! Lol). One of the Tomahawk terminals were manned 24/7 while underway by an Operations Specialist. Should we ever had had to fire a missile, this data would then be sent over to the 2 terminals that you're shown sitting at in one of the videos. These were the terminals used to actually create a firing solution and to launch. These were manned by Fire Controlmen on an as needed basis (General Quarters, which we would've been in). The Harpoon system was pretty basic, turn it on, input the necessary targeting info, and push the button (if memory serves, we, the OS's, handled that). Hope this helps a little bit.
I served on USS Edson DD-946. She is now a museum ship in Bay City MI. I was able to go she her a couple of years ago and it was like I was 19 again! Thanks for the work you do keeping these great ships alive!
Im a avid viewer of your vids...here in the UK we don't have apart from HMS Belfast to much of our battleship history available to us. I must congratulate you on a job well done, the detail you go into in your vids is fantastic. You have made lockdown bearable bringing history to life.
Well Done! I'm lucky enough to live near the Battleship Massachusetts, U.S.S. Salem, and the U.S.S. Cassin Young, so this sort museum has always fascinated me. I hope to visit the U.S.S. Cassin Young when they reopen next year. Your museum is also on my history "RADAR" as Camden, NJ is about a six hour drive, so an overnight trip is possible. Keep up the good work!
I keep hearing all these logical, well thought out and sane reasons why you are not reactivating the ship. Along with the legalities with the Navy. But secretly she's raring to go in full freedom delivery mode. Sat on the gun barrel waving a saber "sail me closer i want to hit them with my sword"
In one of the USS Iowa videos where they document getting her ready for the tow from San Francisco they show that they fired up the motors that drive the anchor chain winches so they could load the ships anchors and chains. That really surprised me when I saw and heard that thing start up in the vid.
@@reclusivegrub this was the video that I was thinking of. The windlass motor bit is at around the 9.56 minute mark. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dJiyyAd5Df8.html
CIC was my workspace during my 21 year Naval career. USS Semmes DDG 18, USS Cape Cod AD 43, USS Kinkaid DD 965, USS Whidbey Island LSD 41, & USS Wasp LHD 1
I absolutely love what you are doing and appreciate you sharing all this with us. Is there any we can see into one of the huge fuel tanks or any way to get an idea of the huge void space of the empty fuel tanks?
Man the money I would pay to see a battleship move under her own power. USS Texas was supposed to be moved to a dry dock around now to be overhauled, so I’ve been getting back into museum ships again.
A friend and I had a discussion after touring the Missouri that went like this: If I had the money, I wouldn't buy a super yacht, I'd build a scale replica of an Iowa class and make it my super yacht. That then led to questions about legality but hey, one can dream right?
These videos are fantastic. Thanks! Do you plan to do a video on the process of onloading 16" and 5" ammo and how/where it was struck down to the Magazines? Would love to see detail on that process.
Ryan, in the 1980's, a Popular Mechanics magazine writer walked through one of the mothballed BB's. It was a good read. The name of the article was "Born Again Battlewagons". I recall a note about the Admiral's cabin. Thanks for the interesting video's.
If your viewers want to see a steam powered vessel in action, I recommend checking out the SS JOHN W BROWN in Baltimore (or the SS JEREMIAH O'BRIEN in San Francisco). This vessel, one of 2700 Liberty-ship class emergency freighters built during WWII to carry food, essential civilian supplies and war materiel and to make up the losses in shipping capacity caused by the U-boats, is powered by two Babcock&Wilcox water-tube boilers, has a 2500 ihp (21 feet long and 19 feet high) main triple-expansion steam engine with a completely open crankcase, steam feed water pumps and feed water heaters, steam-powered generators supplying part of the ship's power, steam-powered winches and windlasses, etc. On her day sailing outings into Chesapeake Bay, visitors can get right down to the engine and boiler room deck plates and see how everything works. The plant may be 1/100 the size of the NEW JERSEY's, but for those of us used to auto size components, it's still pretty damn impressive -- and all of it works. The engine room hums with mechanical life, and the air is scented with hot metal, hot oil, and steam, as only a live steamship can do.
My dad was chief in charge of the meteorological office on the USS Wisconsin during Desert Shield/Storm. I'd love to see where he worked. Yes, it's a different ship but I'd imagine they were very similar.
How were Battleship Battle Groups employed during the 1980s and 1990s. What type of ships were they comprised of? Where would the Navy utilize a BBBG versus a Carrier Strike Group? Thanks, your videos are the best. I have learned so much.
Hi Ryan, Love these video's and please keep them coming. I noticed in this video you are sitting beside the DRT and I see that its PMP arm is still in place as well. The DRT was my GQ station as well as my first hour watch shift aboard the Franklin D. Roosevelt, CVA-42 in the late 1960's. If you need any information regarding the DRT's operation I would be happy to remote-train either yourself or another volunteer on how it worked both in its 2000 yards/in and 200 yards/in tracking speeds and what each speed was used for. Dan
Never saw the DRT used while active duty in the late '80s.. It worked, PMS was done regularly, we just didn't use it. It was still on the list for underway equipment, so I always had to make sure that the 1000W inverter and the backup inverter were online and the switches lined up. Yep, 1000W inverter to run that one little 120VDC light bulb and a few stepper motors. Then again, the Master Gyro ensured that "12AX7 Vacuum Tube" is permanently imprinted in my brain. Some things never change.
@@kevincrosby1760 Hi Kevin, It sounds like you were on the maintenance end keeping the DRT functional and ready to use when needed. I have a question for you. We would travel in one direction for quite a bit of time. For example we would be on course 270 for many hours. Once the "bug" light was positioned at one end of the DRT, I would eventually run out of travel space and I had to use the hand wheels to run the light back to the right and a little lower on the trace to start plotting again in the same direction. Whenever I re-positioned the light using the cranks, it always sounded like I was stripping gears during that process. What produced that noise? Thanks, Dan
@@seasonedlistener9047 Correct. I was an IC Electrician. The DRT was one of many pieces of equipment that became redundant the day that they hung a GPS receiver over the chart table. It's been 30 years since I last encountered a DRT, and really did nothing with them but the maintenance checks. As it was never used, it never broke. I believe that there were ratchet mechanisms that disengaged the traveling drives when you manually positioned the light.
@@kevincrosby1760 Correct on disengaging the gears. I kept a DRT operational on a Knox-class frigate but the worst piece of gear was the PT-512 (glorified DRT). It was an expensive nightmare to keep operational. The CHENG hated me because I would invariably destroy his budget every quarter for parts to keep it going. Cheers.
Now double it because it's going to leak all of it all over the place the instant the pumps are turned on. (assuming the tanks themselves haven't developed leaks.)
7:21 Having been to the ship a multitude of times made the description of what would happen make me literally lol and stomp my boots. Very true. However they did it on the Iowa in Long Beach.
My dad was in the Coast Guard in the 50s. He worked on getting a ship out of mothballs. Said it was a huge amount of work getting her ready for service.
I did the overnight encampment as a kid and visited as an adult over a decade later at the Missouri. Both times the tour was full of people asking if the battleship could still be reactivated. Although the tour guide optimism differed because of the disposal of the spare ammo and parts in the time between... both pointed to the agreements that all changes they made had to be reversible in case the Navy wanted her back as a small glimmer of hope.
I'm curious to know what kind of weapons were kept on board for infantry and marines - keeping the peace is one thing, but I wonder if they also were trained for potential boarding actions offensive or defensive? Thanks, love the detailed tour videos of this awesome ship!
I don't know about the battleships, but on the cruiser Oklahoma City during 'Nam we were one step behind the Marines. When they had m14s the gunnersmates had m1s, when hey got m16s, we got m14s.
You saying boarding got me thinking of a recent picture of the USS Kidd steaming into port with a large Jolly Roger flying. Imagining the machinists storming up from belowdecks with berettas and swords gives me a chuckle
an add on to my info on Oklahoma City; we also had a couple of .50cals to mount on top of the missile house when needed, m1911a1s, and a few thompsons. our Marines would be primary landing party of course, but some of us squids were designated for that role also. our training consisted of marching up and down the pier!
Cont with question, If indeed welded, how? hopefully laminated so the plate ends never line up so as to prevent the failure of the hull plate like on the Bismarck
I would like to see a video showing the radio room(s) and equipment (radios, antennas, etc.). I made contact with NJ2BB last Nov. and got a QSL card. I'm really enjoying the videos! Thanks and 73!!!!
You know, I'm amazed we haven't done this yet, I had to go back and look. We will definitely have to do something. While you wait, heres a look at one of the ship's radio rooms: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XIUMDok3y2o.html
Will New Jersey be going into drydock in the future? This next question is what in your opinion would a modern big gun battleship be like ie propulsion system armour and such?
I work at a biomass cogen plant, we run 600psi steam for our turbine generator. 600 psi isn’t going to cut you in half, or even cut off an arm, but it will, if sufficiently concentrated, pierce skin and cause lots of damage that way, beyond the scalding burn.
Oh real quick question - In many of your tour vids to the closed off areas you show the piping for the dehumidification equipment from when the ship was in mothballs. If those areas arent open to the public do you still dehumidify in those parts of the ship?
We don't run those dehumidifiers. They're too big for us to remove so they stay put. We ventilate the spaces or have desiccant still in place in many rooms though. A few places we run dehumidifiers for the artifacts we store there but thats only a handful of rooms.
This is some info on the mothball process, we can add to this in a future video though: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IA6Usv8hvBE.html
All the coolness of the idea of firing the big guns or moving her under her own steam aside...if you DID fire up the Diesels, would you be able to move the ship without a tug? Like, do they only provide electricity or do / can they power propulsion too?
*HELL NO!* IS THE BEST ANSWER YOU CAN GIVE! The people in the room firing the gun that broke all the glass, did they loose hearing? My grandfather lost his hearing being a tank instructor, during the Korean war. Never saw combat, THANK GOD!
Hello Ryan, Two questions both regarding doors and hatches on the ship, First question - can you please tell me why all doors and hatches have letters on them and what those letters denote ? Second question - under battle damaged and flooded conditions, how would crew know if it was safe to open a water tight door ?
It's funny how you were talking about using pyrotechnics in the 16-inch guns, a few hours ago listening to one of your episodes I had actually got to thinking about that and the chaff launchers. You would have to use a stainless steel tube, in multiple sections. As far as making it look realistic yeah that can be done that's actually not to hard, you can produce a large majority of the flame and smoke without the Boom, you would however have to rotate the turret so they point out over the water. If you really are interested in doing something like that after pyrotechnics supplies become available I can do some limited testing on a small scale I like to blow things up anyway, then you would just have to take the same formula to a pyro technician and just have it upscale, it can be done off-site since you're shooting up basically out of the stainless steel tube. Or even a galvanized steel tube that would be cheaper
I have heard you mention that the seachests had plate welded over them in mothballs are New Jerseys still plared over? Also I want to ask many crew did each turret take?
Too bad about not firing the 16" guns, but very understandable. Would be kind-of neat to get the shell and powder hoists working again. It know it would be very labor intensive, but maybe if you used dummy shells and dummy powder bags, you could show the process of loading the guns.
When you are giving a tour deep inside the ship and someone decides they have to use the bathroom NOW. Can you still flush it out if it happens to get into the ship's plumbing?
Most of the heads work, but if they don't, they don't. We would just have to come out with a bucket a clean it up. But thanks for putting that nightmare out there for us!
Monthly civil war naval battles episode!! Anatomy of ironclads! Hunley special. PT boat special. Flying boat speacial. Anatomy of pocket battleships and stories. Evolution of us navy salvage diving. Liberty ship special. WWII American submarine activities in the pacific. The WWII Merchant marine experience. WWI and WWII warship camouflage. History of sextant navigation. Anchors away!- mechanics of naval anchors and chain. Hazard! -Museum ships and the struggle to maintain birthing. Light carriers! Watches! A look at the typical 24 hour bridge cycle aboard wartime vessels. Flag flying playlist. Flags and what they mean in the US navy. Morse code and discrete signaling. Bring em on, Jersey!
The red phones are what an individual would use to talk with someone else depending on how and for what kind of circuit it was setup for (remember this is pre-digital age but, low frequency up to ultra high frequency). Prior to getting underway, the Radio department would setup the circuit and then tell us in CIC/CEC, what was what and where, then we would have that listed at each phone and also on a status board with frequently used call signs listed for easy reference.
Thank you for this episode. I do have a question about the USS Iowa. What was the cause of the explosion in the center gun. Something you said in another video made me lean towards the though that possibly, I repeat possibly that the powder had degraded. Was that ever considered? Thank you. I guess I can try looking elsewhere, although I'm not entirely sure if there really was a definite answer found.
I've got a question about the construction of the Iowas. I just watched a documentary about the Musashi where they say that they couldn't weld the huge armor plates together and resorted to a "hot rivet" joining method which ultimately failed when struck by torps culminating in her demise. I've also seen a doc where they sent a submersible down to the wreck of the Bismarck documenting that the Dovetshire did indeed sink her with torps showing a huge I dunno, 20" hull plate missing exposing the innards of the ship. So My question is Did the Iowa's have welded Armor? continuous
I have some experience with a 155mm firing about 6-8 pounds of powder. It feels like getting kicked in the chest even from a fair distance away so it’s beyond my comprehension what 600 pounds of powder would have felt like
Served onboard New Jersey & Missouri in 80's. Went up to the O-10 bridge with double hearing protection and observed 9 gun broadside once. Took pictures and captured couple of the rounds as they exited guns. Our spaces were in Bull Halsey's former stateroom next to CIC 1 deck above the Surrender Deck. Space was directly behind the #2 16in mount and about 12" of armor at that level. We had a water tight door that opened to deck and there was a 5" gun mount aft of that door. The 5" gun rattled us more in our space due to the muzzle location by that 12" armor door vs the #2 16" directly in forward of us. Battleships rode well in almost any sea state. Much better that boobing around on a Spruance destroyer with lightweight aluminum super structure and coming out of green water on the bow.
When turret three was fired in the stops, to check out the fire/no fire cams, the barrels were over one of the 40mm gun tubs. Of course to check fo any superstructure weakness, the gun was fired in this positiom Warning was given to the civilian workers that they should move their large tool box from the gun tub. Box was about 3.5feet by 3.5 feet by 5 feet long. They looked at us like we were not all there, after all it was a large, strong, metal tool box. We fired one barrel of turret three. The metal box was completely destroyed with nothing lefy but a FLAT piece of metal where the box once stood!
@@BattleshipNewJersey HOW ABOUT A TOUR OF THE RADIO CLUB? I'm a Ham also and I stumbled onto the radio club operating the station on the PAMPANITO in San Francisco. While doing the self guided tour, I started to hear radio chatter, but couldn't see where it was coming from. So I just yelled out is that 20 meters? A guy popped out behind a corner and ask "are you a Ham?" I got a private tour of the radio room. They had a lot of vintage radio gear that was restored by the club. They had modern Kenwood TS-2000 HF SSB Transceiver that was hooked up to the boat's antenna. de WA8SDF
"reduced charge" was a legit way to fire the guns. It reduced the range of course, but it was used as a way to "lob" a round similar to artillery instead of "shooting" it like a rifle shot. It would allow you to shoot over hills that would normally get in the way of a regular shot and hit a target lower on the other side.
Yes, we all would like to see this BB come back to life, all systems functional, and window shattering 16" sonic boom generators... BUT, to merit the expense of time and money, there has to be a bang for the buck. (no pun) What items are on the wish list for restoration by the board? Rotating radar antennas, we know about. Anything else interesting?
Aside from the obvious safety and cost of operating the boilers etc, was there a reason specified by the Navy for not being allowed to operate any steam systems? The propulsion systems make sense but why not other less critical systems from shore steam?
Ryan, I have to give you your props in regards to you and the other curators of the U.S.S. NEW JERSEY Museum for saying "hell to the no" about lighting off boilers and shooting the 16"/50 calibers. I really don't think many people realize how much damage firing a 16 inch gun would cause to our national treasure ship and the surrounding area. I am also amused by that dumb scene in the movie BATTLESHIP; where that group of guys were able to carry a 2300 pound, 16"/50 shell down "Scotland Road" (aka the rail tunnel) of MISSOURI; and relight her boilers. I don't know why some people think that the museum staff are able to take NEW JERSEY out for a spin each morning; and you, as the curator stands on the bridge and order a full, 16 inch broadside. 😄
So, I know these ships aren’t coming back. That’s not my question, but my question involves the hypothetical talks of major modernizations in the 90s. I heard that they planned on using some reduced diameter, possibly rocket assisted shells to reach out and hit stuff like 80 miles away. Do you know anything about that, and if so, where can I find more about it?
Didnt Ryan mention in one of his videos that steam could be fed to the ships system from an external source? How much would that speed things up from a cold start?
I have a question. If there was a situation like a hurricane that came through could you reactivate certain parts of the ship to act as a center to help clean up? I would assume helicopters could still land on the ship if needed? Are there generators in the ship that could still be used for power? How about the radio shack could it be used? Is there still fuel in the tanks that could be used for generators on the ship? I know the ship couldn't move but how much could be used in a local emergency? Sick bay for emergency room type help? I was thinking about what happened with Katrina and a ship like New Jersey could have been a great staging area. Are there enough beds left that national guard could potentially stay and have a safe place to work out of? Could the ship still distill water? Could the radar still be used? What systems on the ship could be brought online to address an emergency like that? Thanks!
We are capable of housing folks in that sort of emergency but our sick bay wouldn't be helpful to anybody since it's so hard to get to and all the equipment is non functioning. We could set up a radio station if needed, assuming our radio antennas survive the storm. We cannot make water and we have no real way of storing food that isn't canned or cooking food. So theoretically we could be of help, but unlikely that we would be terribly helpful.
I don't THINK you've covered this yet . . I'm curious about the Seaplanes and catapults as installed in WWII. For example: Was there a way to store them or were they always above deck? If above, wouldn't the planes be damaged by rough weather or main battery shock blast? It seems like carrying scout planes would be irrelevant in the New Jersey's role as Carrier Escort so maybe they mostly did not keep them aboard? I believe I read the catapults were never really installed once the Des Moines class was finally completed so maybe by the end of the war, that idea was obsolete?
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bfM8BjdMG9U.html There was no hanger, the planes were always kept on deck. The planes faired well in rough weather, but things do happen. Scout planes were essential to being able to see where a shot fell, remember that these shells can land over the horizon.
Good evening to Ryan & the crew at BB62...What was the original cost of an Iowa class battleship ? & if the Navy built an Iowa class battleship today.....what would the cost be & would it be faster ?
Considering it cost about $450 million per ship to reactivate them in the 80s, how much would it cost today 2020 to reactivate/refurbish/restore one of these ships to full operational capacity?
While it would be awesome to see a 16 inch gun fire, I completely agree with and commend you for not wanting to simulate it with something that wouldn't even do it any honor.
What were the Iowa class battleships chain of command 1 though idk I know the captain and xo were 1 and 2 just wondering thankyou sir love the vedios I can wait to come see her when yall open back up
#1 is the Captain (which is his title and also his rank, as NJ is a capital ship). #2 is the Executive Officer, usually a Commander. Following would be the department heads (engineering, operations, etc), usually Lieutenant Commander (at least on my 3 ships, the Engineering Officer was 3rd in command). Next are the division officers, usually lieutenants (signified by the 2 silver bars, which in all the other branches are "Captains", hence the confusion with the title of naval Captain. And the finally you had the junior officers (ensigns and Lieutenant junior grade). On the enlisted side, you had the senior enlisted non-commisioned Officer, the Command Master Chief, he answered only to the Captain and XO on issues pertaining to general crew issues. Below him, we're the division Chiefs and Senior Chiefs, then the Leading Petty Officers (Petty Officer 1st Class) and then pretty much everyone else.
No, they are beyond the regulations. Though we do a have a great relationship with our local PD and they not only know what we have but get a call every time we fire one.
To be quite honest I would love to look at the agreement twixt BB 62 and the military... I know its none of my business but I do love to look at that stuff. Also a theoretical question for you: if Battleship New Jersey was brought up to operating condition, and you were allowed to start her up would you take her out of port and stretch her legs a little, similar to what they do with the HMS Belfast?
Its not allowed, we dont really have any interest in doing it. Our goal is to preserve her, not keep her running. But a future video is definitely on our contract with the navy.
Hello Ryan, I have a question about blast bags around the main turrets. Were they always on? What was the purpose of them and any other info or history on them would be great. Thank you.
I'm surprised that you didn't mention boilers possibly corroding over time and possibly bursting. 600 PSI times whatever the size of the interior of the boiler is ends up as a significant force. My experience is polyurethane foam that has 15 PSI force on it. Sounds small till you realize that 8 feet of coolers in a row of them ads up to in excess of ten tons of pressure.
I work on industrial and marine diesel generators. I am familiar with the type and vintage of the generators used on those ships. I would be interested in knowing exactly what you have there. I believe for safety reasons that they should be reactivated and I may be of some help in that regard. Having some large, powerful generators available would not be a bad thing, even if they are never needed, they could come in handy. I think that they can be brought back into service less expensively than you think and to a very high degree of reliability too. Thanks for taking good care of our battleship! I remember when Jimmy Carter came up with the idea of chopping them up. We raised Hell! The Navy passively resisted. Those ships are each national treasures. I am going to keep a closer eye on USS New Jersey from now on. New sub. Any info you have on the auxiliary generators would be appreciated.
While working at San Francisco Naval Shipyard in the 60s I was involved with the testing of ship service and emergency generators on several ships. While activating the generators wouldn't be too difficult, the activation of other parts of the system, like the boilers, condensers, fuel handling and circulating water systems would.
@@jimprice1959 just the diesel generators. The steam propulsion system should remain in deep preservation, unless the ship is fully reactivated. Those diesel generators operate independently of the steam turbo generaors.
@@jimmiller5600 I am sure that those generators were put in storage according to standard Navy procedures. I have reactivated a bunch of eqipment like that. I think it would be a useful thing to do on a ship like that. Even if never needed, it would be nice to light them off on a regular basis. Not reopening the thru hull fittings is sensible. There may be ways of reactivating these auxiliary generators safely and inexpensively without compromising the water tight integrity of the ship. I imagine there are commercial standby generators, either aboard or ashore for emergency use in event of power failure.
12:35 - What does steam (actually just water at high temperature and pressure) have in common with a Jedi and surgeons are jealous of ? Both Cuts and cauterize at the same time. Different Question - perhaps the 5 inch guns would be better than the 16 inch - could you modify them and be the centerpiece/ launching site for say the 4th of July Fireworks ?
We do fire our 5 in guns for special occasions. Occasionally a full broadside when the guns are cooperating. We even let guests fire them for a $500 donation. But, if you want to do it, please call ahead!
In Vietnam a 175mm howitzer on charge 7 was lethal off the end of the barrel for about a mile without a projectile .Can you imagine how far a 16" gun would damage buildings not just break glass. I bet it would knock down walls at an amazing distance even without a projectile. One of your guests said it compressed his chest when hit with backwash when #2 turret fired it's guns as he was trying to get inside the bridge when the gun alarm sounded. I am in agreement heck no!
Granted Wouldnt never happen but Would be neat if they could take one of the iowa class and have her move under her own power. Would be cool for paid day cruises for people to ride on it and possibly a training opportunity for the navy.
