Well used knowledge +skill to logically bypass technical restriction of the device. Still, I think Elektron should add time stretch as a feature in the next update. It's 2021, any sampler can have it. It can be Oktatrack algorit, as long as it works.
Thanks!! You're right, you can use retrigs to up the resolution for better coherence at extreme stretch/repitch values. Also, if you use 4 bar samples with a 1:4 trig lock on the first step combined with four pages you can play back 16 bars in one pattern! More coming on that topic soon..
@@SoonComeSound ahh I get what you mean now. Good idea and if you combine the scale multiplier with retrigs you could nearly play back a whole song with a single track & pattern!
Another vote for more in-depth techniques like this - in the 9 months I've had the DT I love it and think that actually it's just down the imagination of us users to push it to new levels - and you've just shown (with some knowledge) it's actually already capable of so much - no need for a FW update! So yeah, more please :-)
WHAT? Srs, I've seen some janky and awkward timestretch hacks on this thing that have never satisfied me. This is way, way better than anything I've seen so far.
Alright I gotta comment again because I've been playing with this for an hour and this is amazing, thank you so much. The trick is so simple yet genius. It opens a new realm of possibilities on the DT, and makes it even more flexible. Doubling the "sample rate" by setting the track scale x2 and adjusting the LFO accordingly brings great results.
@@dialectricStudios I agree 100%. I've stacked up a few loops like the amen break and whatnot, it works so well. I've found the track scale setting (x2, x1/2, x1/4) to be very interesting, depending on the material. Since it doesn't change the speed of the sample but only the "definition", it can be used to create build-ups, or to mix things up on the fly if you have some param locks on the track. Definitely worth exploring!
@@dialectricStudios It's me again. I've tried the granular method using retrigs, definitely interesting on lower BPMs, but I find there's more artifacts this way. I still prefer to double the scale of the track instead, but man it drives the LED crazy. It's blinking so fast it's not even blinking, it's just white! It becomes hard to tell what's going on. It also behaves strangely when muted/unmuted, staying green or purple, adding to the confusion. We're pushing the boundaries here haha !!
Thanks a lot, dude! It really inspired me to finally start using loops in my productions - as before I didn't want to bother with all the hoops jumping to make it work nicely. Looking forward to your new vids!
Don't think so, you still can't play samples chromatically on the keyboard. it does not timestretch the samples. Repitch works on the BPM, not the key.
Wow, consider my mind blown! My brain can’t begin to work out what’s going down here but man, you’ve just opened up a tremendous can of worms. Wonderful stuff dude, cheers. You have a new sub here... Peace ✌️
Thanks I appreciate your support! It's a big can of worms and this video is just the tip of the iceberg. This is one grain.. now think about 8 working together. more on that soon :)
When I set the depth to +30 the sample does not start at 0 but at 30. Which also sort of makes sense. Do more people have that? If I set the depth to 60 it does work. Do you always have the multiplier on 16bmp? I noticed it does not work on every sample. sometimes 8 bpm works better.
You're right, thats a change made in the 1.3 update actually. It always made sense the LFO depth would be 60 but for some reason it used to be 30. As for the multiplier you're correct again, it changes based on how many bars the sample you're playing back is. Also there's a relationship between the sample's original BPM and the BPM you're playing it back at. Anyways this is a long post 😅 All will be clarified in a video coming out Saturday, plus I'll show a few new tricks too. Cheers
Thank you for sharing this great technique! I love it tho im having some trouble with it - it only plays the middle part of my sample, making it sound really wonky with some samples. Do you know why it wont play the entire sample?
try changing the multiplier on the lfo page! i was having the same problem then i made the mult 8 and made the sample starting point 30 instead of 60 nd that worked for me.
cool deff gonna use this thank you .. do you think it's possible to resample using external FX ( ie using the headphone out ) if so please make a video .
Fantastic! But I dont understand the logic of turning LFO speed down to -8 (why -8 precisely?) and the Depth to 130. And why does that fit to any BPM? I just dont understand the logic of it. Thanks again for the video!
If the LfO speed is a multiple of 8 that means it’s synced to the patterns bpm. That’s why the speed knob snaps to those values when you do func + speed
