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I'm gen z. Been working full time for nearly two years now after undergrad. Growing up my life was similar to the 90s kids situation you described. I've been "quiet quitting" for the past year, after I came to the realization that going the extra mile is just volunteering for more work for the same rate of compensation and available opportunities. The supervisors won't 'notice' me and give me a chance to move up in the workplace heirarchy. It's a fantasy. My boomer college professors and parents conditioned me to be a slave lol.
Quit quitting was a branding move by executives and corpo influencers to make overworking the norm. We work so we can have families and lives. We've pushed to max out productivity at the expense of human existence. And now the birthrate is dropping like a brick and the suicide rate is climbing. This system is destined to kill itself.
They've since added a bunch of others. The main point of silly terms like this is to reframe expectations so that normal and appropriate behavior is viewed as inadequate. It works though because most young people are so saddled with debt when they enter the workforce they're terrified of being fired.
Exactly. This was my experience and the same goes for many friends and family. My parents and grandparents could never understand why I hated school despite my love of learning. They couldn’t (some of them still can’t) grasp how different and insane the times have become.
Born 97. I did horrible in school. Not for lack of trying mind you, just wasn't able to do well. Couldn't learn the way they teach things. Got home and did homework, then did chores or work with my Dad. Full house so never got any private time. No friends. Hated school, hated life. Yet this idea of giving 110% was prevalent in my mind. I did so unrelenting, unfailing in trying, not succeeding, but trying. Not until several jobs and thousands of dollars in college/credit card debt later (quit scool never made it go a degree) did I realize my mistake. I have nothing to show for my 110%. My hopes and dreams were based on a lie I was told since I left the womb.
The "work family" was something very attractive to me in my 20's. Now, a little older and wiser, I see you owe your employer nothing more than the job description. I say that without malice. I'm a hard worker, but I've taken on jobs that are not much more than volunteer work (e.g., low pay, no benefits). And these jobs had that same, "We're family!" Sorry, no. I have a family, and I need to be with them.
I'm Gen Z/Millennial (mid 20s, not sure where that actually lands) and this describes me to a T. School, extracurriculars, giving 110% with honors courses, clubs and attending the local college in junior and senior year of high school. Got an AA with my diploma. Transferred to university after and got a degree in engineering. It was always about school, give it your all and you can rest when you're successful. Well, my first job out of university was a small private manufacturing company who sucked every last ounce of free labor out of employees. Being the naive kid out of college, I dumped 50 and 60 hour work weeks into "showing my worth" and building them a project single-handedly from scratch. The reward? Not more paid leave, not a bonus or raise... It was more work. David is right. I got a new job back in my hometown in my field, public sector, 40hrs a week, do exactly what I'm paid to do... Got a salary increase and have more paid time off than I know what to do with. The hustle is a lie - do what you're paid to do, and nothing more! You're more valuable than that.
Boomers are a joke. They still believe legacy media. I'm Gen X. My parents were never home. I realized the system was broken at a young age. I've always "just done my job". Snake Plisskin is my spirit animal.
Hahahahah bruv, Snake always went the extra mile and did more than just his job, just not what his s̶l̶a̶v̶e̶r̶ employer expected 😂 I gotta rewatch those...
I recall having 2-4 hrs of homework every night. I had emotional breaks at how hopeless, pointless and insurmountable the work was. On top of that, the inescapable violent bullying and daily humiliation from the staff and abused children makes me firmly believe school broke me in ways I can’t calculate.
Great insight as always. Highlighting the attachment millenials and gen zers have for institutions made me realize why companies emphasizing their friendly/ cool work culture is so effective for so many of my peers when deciding on which jobs to take. I always found companies that claim they are a "family" offputting as it seemed inherently wrong and i would be immediately distrustful of the HR woman telling me that.
I'm a web dev and my first web dev job was at one of these "family" shops and they fired me because I fell behind too much. Now, I'm a big fish in a small pond and my manager is a quiet quitter, and so is his manager, and I'm underpaid by a lot but it's ideal, actually.
Its exactly what I did before I started working in cybersecurity. If a company treats you poorly, do the bare min and work on facilitating a pathway to a better career.
I just saw a graph thhat shoes people today are more than 300% more productive than in the 50s but their compensation are only about 200% than in the 50s (not adjusted for inflation) I'm grateful that i can work as a freelancer, not slaving myself to any company
Gen Z here. I hated school but I liked a few teachers throughout primary secondary and highschool. wanting to be anywhere else other than school was a daily thing😅
I was home schooled, so I don't have any of these attachments to the public school culture, but I was still was raised with this idea that going to college and working hard would get me into a fulfilling career and lead to having my own family. 11 years now in retail sales and now in software, I can definitely say there's nothing fulfilling about working hard just so I can have a couple hours to myself before I fall asleep from exhaustion. And my hopes grow dimmer and dimmer about ever marrying and becoming a father. So what the heck have I worked so hard for all my life anyway? My job doesn't make me happy, I have no family to care for, I don't have a social circle adequate for finding and dating a quality woman, and I don't usually have time to spend with the rare friend in my life. I feel like I'm not even alive except the two days of the weekend. Oh, and if you are in tech then you can't even count on having the weekends to yourself!
Teachers are quitting because the student body is becoming less and less comprised of middle class whites. The comparison to modern schools being like prisons is appropriate, but what;s left out is that schools are forced to be that way to ensure the safety of both staff and students. Teaching abroad in proper 1st world countries with in-tact homogeneous populations is much more fulfilling and enjoyable than teaching in the states is now.
I suspect it has less to do with being "middle class whites" and more to do with fewer students come from intact homes with two parents and a dad that takes an active (even if distracted) interest in their kids' schooling. The fact that the topics being taught in the typical school are pretty much garbage also has something to do with it.
Good Stuff, it really hit home for me. As an early 90s baby, I'm kind of an odd duck in that I absolutely despised school. Mostly because I didn't have many friends, but also because I was bullied while the teachers barely did anything about it. Oddly enough, despite being a Millennial, I had a bit of a latchkey experince growing up. My younger sister and I would come home from school and sometimes mom would be at work or helping out our older siblings so we kind of just did our own thing. I'm actively considering Quiet Quitting (also apparently known as, "Work to Rule) my current job of 12 years. There are a pair of straws that broke this camel's back: 1) I would have to be making $32/hr in Canadian Dollars in order to have the same buying power as someone in my same line of work from the 70s. I make just over half of that. 2) My mother is on Old Age Security (Income Assistance for Retirees), and she makes $300 a month more than I do after Taxes and Deductions. Apparently I should have just gone on Income Assistance after High School instead of going to College and then Working.
Another thing I see from Gen Z is the expectation to start in higher authority/pay/senior roles and to find rapid advancement and immediate reward. "Hey, I completed this project and saved the company $35k after being here 6 months.... So when am I getting promoted?" While I'm a Millennial, I know the boomers tell me how for example a college grad would never have come in as a Commodity Manager but would rather had to have started as an Analyst, Assistant or Admin for a few years. Now they get hired as a CM and in 18 months are expecting to be a SR GM or segment Lead while never having actually negotiated a +$50M contract let alone $1M.
As someone born in 81, I really enjoy all your vids and writing on this sort of thing pertaining to our generation and the differences, etc. It all resonates and is something me and my contemporary friends will often discuss. I'd love some more deep dive explorations of these topics.
I'm a boomer and in my first job which lasted 23 years (20 years before the change in management made it suck) i did lots of unpaid overtime because we actually were a team who all lived locally, were about the same age, went bowling on a Thursday night together and we felt like the job belonged to us and that what we did mattered. My second job (i got poached by a client) was like going back to the old days, i got to do what i enjoyed, helping people and i did a certain amount of unpaid overtime and then we got bought and i could see the writing on the wall that they would get rid of we old timers regardless of howmuch work we did and i 'quiet quit' until they made me redundant. If you feel you are doing something worthwhile you don't mind the extra hours - but make sure the manager sees them , no use getting in early or doing stuff in the middle of the night you need to stay late when he's there.
I'm gen X and learned many years ago not to give extra for an employer. It is never recognized and if you continue to do that it will be expected. I won't even work paid OT hours. If the company has a manpower issue, that's not my problem. If they want to get rid of me because of that, so be it. There will always be another "employment opportunity".
I remembered many of my friends/high school acquaintances working themselves to death with homework, sports, music, extracurriculars. My parents were fairly hands-off. I sort of did that, but I hated it even then. Nowadays I prefer to just live and work in balance. Some of my jobs have conflicted with this. 11:03 also thanks for this tidbit of advice. As someone who is in the education system now, finding the balance between being nice and managing students is difficult, so I am working to improve this.
I wish i had learned a skill in school rather than be fed books for 12 years. We complain about wage slavery but not about the factories that produce those slaves.
@@DVSPress Many people seem to springboard from the dissonance of employer/employee interest straight into socialism/communism. That or they ask what comes "after" capitalism. I personally don't think there is anything after free enterprise but what do you think is the appropriate market response to abusive and powerful market forces like large companies and corporations?
@@GridironMasters I think the only effective remedy humanity has found so far is more alternatives (in this case, a wider array of companies to chose from so that employers have to try harder to draw in applicants), and the only way to have that is a healthier/more prosperous economy in general.
@@TheWolfgangGrimmer Yes, more mountains to climb means more opportunity which should make it easier to find something worth pursuing and harder to dominate everyone. the general k12 schooling model is just idleness for the most part. Then you're expected to wait another 4 years and incur debt to get a skill. I could have been taught how to do ANYTHING. Cut hair, carpentry etc and I would have been better off in the market. It doesn't have to be your life's work but it beats being a replaceable food worker. I would never put my children through the conventional schooling system. I don't care what edicts have been written to compel it.
The biggest abuse has been including "and all additional duties" clause to job descriptions. This is how employers get around paying you dirt wages and working you like a slave. Much of the corporate language I see I call "sorority speech" - it's all buzz words, lingo, and overly peppy, but dig a little deeper and it's all empty. If an employee does something wrong and it cuts into a business's money, all that inclusive attitude and culture goes out the window. I've worked for companies that build a reputation for being a good place to work with a good culture, but on the inside, they're money grubbing chauvinists. Lastly, I'd love to see you make a video about teaching. I'm currently pursuing an MFA program to teach on the university level. Some of the small things you mentioned in this video blew my mind, but I'd like to learn more so I can properly prepare and correct my expectations.
Most of my friends became teachers because they thought they’d pass on their love for a specific subject to an enthusiastic new generation (much like a father passes on his love of things to a kid). Most have ended up unhappy that not every student finds their class fascinating. They’d rather do something else, but they tell me they stick around for the benefits.
There are people whose whole business is helping teachers quit the profession. Teachers have a hard time quitting partially because they have never looked for work outside the profession, partially because they realize once they start looking that they would have to take a pay cut in various forms.
@@DVSPressSo, if teachers need the benefits--I have a couple of chronic health issues, so I need the medical insurance--what do they do to escape education? I'm being treated badly by administration and I'm desperate to leave, but I need the benefits, or continuous access to health insurance.
100% Correct. The other problem too is most jobs you can probably expect to only be there for 4~6 years. The longer you're there, the bigger the target is on your head, because it's cheaper to fire you and cycle you out for someone cheaper than it is to keep loyal workers on.
Why don't employers treat their employees right? What is the driver behind the trend? Have employers become more greedy? Or has it become more difficult to make a profit in this modern world forcing you to underpay your employees?
I agree with almost everything. I will say that I think you might be being a little bit unfair toward millennials like myself who became teachers. I think at least most of us going in knew that classroom management was a huge part of the job. The deceptive, pop culture part we inherited from our childhoods was that principals and assistant principals are all ball busters who definitely care when kids act up, and that parents care about their kids' behavior. We believed this in large part because that is actually how it was when we grew up, when our parents grew up, etc. A lot of established teachers who were used to that are also quiet quitting or just straight up quitting. It was reasonable to think that even if you weren't a super commanding personality, you could effectively work with admins and parents to establish a system, which is exactly what they teach you to do, to set up rules and expectations and then enforce them. What actually happens in practice now is: *No one cares about grades anymore, so that isn't any motivation for even moderately well-behaved kids to do well like it was in the past. If they do get bad grades, you get bombarded with complaints from parents. *You tell the parents what their kid is doing and they think you're lying or exaggerating and singling out their poor sweet baby for targeted harassment. *You tell the parents what their kid is doing and they are powerless to do anything about it because they don't know how to parent either. *You tell admin what the kid is doing and they get mad at you for not going through the parents. *Admin suspends the same kids over and over because they can't do anything else. *The bad kids get to have breaks off of school (suspension), get babied by counselors and breaks from class, milk reward systems where they act up and then get showered with candy and snacks for doing slightly better, etc. *Admin blames you for issues in your classroom (or even the hallway or the cafeteria) that should be their responsibility. You're right that you need to be charismatic to be a teacher now, but it's more about physically having a commanding, intimidating voice that the kids will respond to than anything else. If your voice, height, etc. isn't physically capable of doing that then it's just not there, because you can't actually back up any of your threats with real consequences.
Part of the problem with discourse now is we keep referring back to competitions between 19th century ideologies that I don't think apply. We're living under conditions that every economist of yore predicted would be impossible.
@@DVSPress @DVSPress Well, not that Marx and Keynes were ever actually trained economists, although indeed their predicitons of the future were certainly completely off-base and most of their ideas were nonsense.
Last weekend I was talking to my niece's boyfriend who is a senior at one of the UC campuses. He had never heard the term latch-key kid before. He couldn't relate to a kid wearing a key on a shoe string and just being alone for 3-4 hours before a parent came home and I can't relate to being booked 100% of every day with school, sports, etc. As for 'quiet quitting' my GenX perspective is that it is a non-sense term. Showing up and showing your job is what's expected in life.
I must have had a relatively ideal childhood. I was born in 1969. Except for a year or two when I was very young, my mother was a stay at home mom and my father was the only one who worked. When my mother worked we kids stayed with my maternal grandmother. I hated school, same as everyone else. I didn't participate in any after school activities or sports. Once I got home I was free basically. I could disappear until supper. There were woods all around the house and plenty of other children with which to play. When there wasn't school, I could go out again and play at night until called home. We'd play hide-in-go seek in the dark or catch lightning bugs. On the weekends, holiday breaks, and the summer I'd be gone all day except for occasionally dropping in for something to eat and doing the few chores I had to do such as mowing. During my working life, I have been conscience about doing my job but started and stopped work when I was supposed to.
I was born in 97 and my experience you described with teachers trying to make the classroom into a family is dead on and it was always intertwined with the teachers personally baggage. I also remember many lectures on feminism from a very young age
Maybe not the same kind of experience, but I guess it involves the same kind of people with similar generational attitudes: Some years ago, the Franciscan school from across the street, where I go to church, opened an emerging Franciscan Third Order fraternity. In the beginning it was pretty satisfying, just a bunch of folk from the community hanging out every once in a while with the friars and learning from them, because that's what we wanted to do, deepen our understanding and living of the faith; nobody really care about the inner politics of the thing. Then a bunch of female teachers from the school got in (some with their husbands in tow) and they completely r̶u̶i̶n̶e̶d̶ changed the dynamic, turning it into a highschool classroom where they're the clique that's in the fraternity's council, heading all the commissions, and pretty much telling everyone else what to do. They also changed the didactic system from a in-person one where you'd go there and hear a class or workshop and then have a forum, to a WhatsApp-based one where one day you'll get 200 audio files dumped on you, and then you have to listen to them and express how you feel about the subject matter. Now the FTF gatherings are mostly to practice bonding dynamics or some such shite, and have an assortment of desserts and soda. Talk about feminism, one of such talks had the metro area minister explain to us his great the new rule is, because it doesn't "force" women to ask the permission of their husbands to join a fraternity, because "she doesn't need anyone's permission to do anything". I got up and told her if she imagine the Virgin Mary going to Egypt alone "because she doesn't need any permission from Saint Joseph to go anywhere". Everybody looked at me likes a weird human sized but has entered the chapel, and then promptly changed subjects. I guess Institutions are shite but most often because people turn them into shite and nobody stands up to them, and I mean nobody _above_ them...
Dad used to tell me (I've not verified) that the reason slavery was abolished by the british was that the slaves (assets) had better conditions than the workers (dispoable) and the workers and owners were dissatisfied with this. Make of that what you will.
The way the coal mining companies in West Virginia treated their employees back in the day would lend credence to what you are saying. Back then they were paid in company money only good to spend at the company store at extremely high prices and had to live in company housing that they had to pay for, again at high prices. If the miner died (usually from black lung), if he was married the woman had 7 days to remarry and if she didn't the company kicked her out of town and moved the possessions to city limits and dumped them there. Absolute evil to the core and if they did it back then and with the way corporations are now and getting worse I could see it happening again. DEI is against civil rights law and our govt doesn't care whatsoever. The illegal immigration invasion is also against the law and again our govt doesn't care. It is happening again. IMO become independent as much as possible. As of yet the trades have not been corrupted and that might be the way to go.
We certainly live in interesting times... On the one hand we have the capital rich using the corporate viel to get away with crap that would land us in jail. On the other hand we have the insanity of "feels before reals" and that is just as toxic. One of the challenges we face today is that democracy works on a normal distribution (weighted to the centre) of opinions. What we're moving to is an inversion of this (peaks on the edges) and it isn't good for anyone. When the inequality (of opinions/morals/norms in this case) we end up with escalating levels of conflict. When it gets to true "us vs them" we get into civil war territory and nobody wants that. I'm not sure what the answer is, but I think binding our political and public servants to legally tell the truth would be a good start. The social standards that used to enforce this has been lost to the "win at all costs" mentality...
The abolition of slavery was more of a change in business model than a moral revolution. Buying, housing, feeding, and maintaining slaves is very complicated and expensive. Easier just to "rent" the labor than to own it, especially when you can sell "freedom" as a benefits package.
That goes without saying. Look around today. Most jobs available today don't pay enough to have good shelter in a safe area and eat healthy food. Slaves were given these, if for no other reason, slaves were expensive and you wanted them on good mental and physical health.
I was born in '79. I was a latchkey kid and didn't go to daycare. I worked really hard through graduate school and got a job at Google for the past 17 years where I've been working competently without any promotion or raises. My typical work day is about 12 to 14 hours of work and the one time I tried working 8 hours per day, I was forced out of my team by my manager and only fortunately found another job in the company, at the last minute. I work so many hours that I have not had a chance to have a personal life after 17 years. I'm worried I might be too old to find a partner and have children now, because of this. Moreover, the company owns everything creative that I make by default, so I haven't been able to work on any hobby skills for almost 20 years. Are things better at other companies? Would I be able to afford the cost of living in California as a single filer working elsewhere, and actually have time for a personal life or even a movie after work?
There is no moving up in after school unless you want to be the director admin or the directors director. I work in after school cuz i can do whatever i want as long as its safe. I teach worldbuilding and many other things in ways like using a Sauron action figure to teach what a bad guy can feel and look like and then use roll for crit site to make armor generterated characters they can color then I lameniate and put on cardboard that i then use for roleplaying on battle and town maps. But our current director doesnt know how to work with our demographic of kids who are manly rude and aggersive black hispanic and foster white kids with broken families. She admitted she doesnt like to be assersstive and confrontial nor does she want to own any pets, so being in charge of someone is out of her league. Yet she was a teacher except she quiet for reasons she didnt say besides she doesnt want a teaching postion. The kids ran all over them and i always, still do, agrued with her about discpline. She has a bad hiring streek. Im by myself with 10 5-6 year olds since the spring cuz 1 one of my best coworker leads left for school. Their replacement was volunteers and 1 assassint whom shouldnt have been hired let alone they didnt even commit, meanwhile 3 new hires for the older staff, 1 which got fired in a month and a half and an another shouldnt also been hired. My boss now realizes she needs to put her foot down. Its her weakness. She found me someone to work with and gave him the full lead teacher title but his experience is with middle schoolers in Taiwan 😑. He talks like a mouse and common sense doesnt click with him for things like "hey look a student gets up to leave the room right past you without saying anything while im in the middle of teaching". I tell my boss and admin this but they keep telling me i have to be nice to him give him time i need to guide him we were all like that when we started. Fucking hell no we werent all like this. When my students loose foucs i have to tell him to have them foucs. He turns around to them and puts his finger on his lips. Then i have to say go over and tell them to get back here and foucs!!! Then he just stands up and walks a couple feet near them and says in the quirest voice ever hey "he said foucs". I mean WTF. These are the types i have to deal with. I use to tell my other director who was a guy with more expereince than this ladly dont give me anymore college kids. But those are the only ppl who give all the paper work back. After school is like the MCDs of education but i rather do it because i have my building and classroom in this program have more than 6 parks i can go to and can get away with a lot traditional classroom setting wouls never allow or think of. For fuck sake my classroom looks like a childrens musueam the way i set up and teach lol. But its just my current boss. Shes 1 of those young ppl who dont like the word discpline and think because my kids arent foucsing i need to do less leasons amd mpre choice free time. . . . 😑😑😑😑😑😑 Like she fucking hired a STEM person who my kids didnt listen to their lessons because they hardly had any rountine RULES for the 1 hour stem class!!! And my lessons without disrpustions are only for about 12-20 mintues depending on what im doing needless to say they all start in the gym unless i cant use it!!!! I also bring body movements into it like if im teaching about animals i have them show me what animals go raaar and would eat me then what animals would go naaaabaaaaah and eat the plant version of me for carnivore vs herbervor. Then i show them real animal skulls and we build a forest with wood twigs dirt grass i got outside and forest animal figures and trees. Thats how i teach but oh yea this method is why the single educator struggles with students who openly tell new hires they dont want to listen!!!! But somehow i can make them and so did only 2 other staff iv been with. Its all fucked up. The only thing i can do is find hire paying after school but other after schools you havr to use a school's space. 95% of my classroom is my own stuff and the remaining is furniture that i was allowed to pick out from a preschool that closed. I threaten my boss to quit many times. If i do the only other strict adult said they will also leave because they know my replacement will be crap like the new guy who doesnt have common sense to and no rules of his own. Fucking guy doesnt even know how 5-6 year olds should walk across a street. He doesnt even wait for them or cars. Duh i should leave
Hah, I was under the same impression as to what quiet quitting was. I've heard another explanation for attachment to school, which is that school is an entirely encapsulated society wherein you can easily construct an identity and a sense of place. You are the "straight a student who is on the math team", or you are the "music kid with average grades and are maybe alternative etc". Real life, particularly modern life, has no structure. So people get very attached to the school structure. You see this with adult Harry Potter fans and maybe school animes. As a counter theory to your 'family' replacement argument, i think this is darkly funny in that it reveals how, despite school being an institution i think all generations have no true LOVE for, they still cling to it because its the only source of identity.
I notice this with a lot of my peers - they go "Back to school" for advanced degrees not because they want to be scholars or they need the degree for some economic reason, but because their collegiate experience was the last time they could remember having purpose, fellowship, and tangible goals/arrival points. This is especially the case with artists.
It's very common for musicians especially post 2000s, where there's virtually no performance opportunities (much less opportunities to make money) in the private sector, so the only place to use your baccalaureate skills is in pursuing a master's degree in performance. And so on. I know guys pushing 40 still doing the academic music thing.
@@DVSPress education as a lifestyle is something I’ve seen in several fields, even ones that are ostensibly profitable! For instance I would think occupational therapy as, what could be broadly termed, a profitable health industry job. Nonetheless they have been in some kind of college program for 20 years… sad.
Honestly it's worse now as far as time goes than in the 2000s; When you have to commute 1 hour each way that makes an 11 hour day (don't get paid for lunch), which means you have 3 hours of free time to eat, workout, try to date someone, etc. Meanwhile, you only get paid enough to service your massive student debt and cover rent. Nothing else. That's the life of a person in their 20s now. It's easy to see it as bleak when you aren't being rewarded for it.
@@DVSPress The problem is people going to college when you don’t need to, nowadays it seems to be nothing but a complete waste of money. I see a lot of the right wing companies avoiding people that went to college haha.
As a PM I wouldn't describe "quit quiting" as "just doing the job" but rather just doing the absolute minimum in order not to get fired. In some cases not even that. You have multiple discussions about performance, you have them on PIPs and they just seem to care right up until you walk them out.
