QUIRKY Saab No-Crank - Part 1 (9-3 V6 Turbo) 

agreed! Ivan is great at not giving up, not gonna make a lot of money this way but at times doing what you love and not making much money is better than the opposite

Thank you for your support Pete! It always seems easier when you watch someone else do the work ;)

Merry Christmas!

@zie_ german Very good conclusion!

Subscribers for a channel like this will be difficult to come by. In order to appreciate what Ivan does, you have to be technically minded with at least some grounding in automotive repair. I don't pretend to fully understand what he does, but I do know enough to appreciate his orderly thought processes as he zeroes in on the problem. When he does things like "Oh, the diagram is wrong, it isn't pin 21, it should be 36" and just tosses it off as an aside, I shake my head in wonderment. This channel will be heavy going for the typical RU-vidr who is more interested in the Kardashians than in technology.

@@douglasburnside You hit the nail on the head. I always rave to my car buddies about this channel and other diag channels. They don't get it. I guess people don't want to think anymore.

I've always liked this channel because I love his problem solving skills. I have no clue hat the wave forms are telling him, other than it gives him data to compare against other signals. I have still learned enough about using a multi meter for trouble shooting to save a pile of money though. Will probably keep trying to learn until getting a Pico is justified. I wonder if there is a simulator web site out there.

Nope...I asked!

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics But can they repair one?

@@jeffryblackmon4846 Nope they said their "success rate" on Saab ECMs was low. The dang thing is smaller than my hand!

was that a question?

​@@TehSWEEDwas that a question????????????

Merry Christmas Bill! Thank you for your support always! 🙂🌲

Yeah I wondered if I saw that as well. But I wasn't certain I could tell which click went with which blink.

Thinking about this, Ivans talking about a Wake up signal, I would think from that a one instance signal to high as your cycling the key to ON, so going through OFF it then blips the ECM to wake it up but then goes to Low (0V) when the key cycles to ON. That's what logic says to me, which I think is how Ivan has understood that too, hence him not questioning why no light at ON positioning, although to be fare to you he doesn't actually say the bulb only comes On in the Key OFF position I think, so I can see why you thought that. I think the text he read out isn't correct, I don't think it should come on in the ON position. Ivans pretty clever he wouldn't have missed that but I guess if he had pointed out it doesn't do exactly what the text said we would have known he was thinking that and this comment wouldn't be on here?

@@steveknight6298 I was thinking that it was the act of turning the key that sends the pulse to wake up the ECM. Namely it goes from high in off, to low as the key breaks the circuit and back to high in the on position.

Thank you Paul, Merry Christmas!

I think for parts you would have to dive into specialist and enthousiast circles, forums, etc. The 4cyl 2.3L 16V turbo engines are very tuneable and strong. These cars also had TRIONIC ignition system that could sense detonation on each cylinder seperately and elctronically by the way the spark jumped the gap. Back then it was cutting edge tech. That said, GM-Saabs are not real Saabs IMO. The last Saabs with longitudinally installed engines are classic and would be my choice.

@@jfv65 Yeah, this seems to have the Holden/Saab LP9 2.8T V6 engine in it.

@@jfv65 Good thought on where to get difficult parts. Like you say most likely from word of mouth of Saab lovers. The Trionic ignition system sounds interesting. I will have to look at one of the Saab forums to learn more about it. These constructive replies always teach me something.

I own and operate an specialist Saab shop in Sweden and i cant say its an problem getting parts now, plenty of Saabs still on the road here in Sweden and junkyards have most parts in stock.

@@Halibrand Do most of the junkyards take out the popular parts of the car or do you have to pull it out yourself, or is pretty equal. Do you have the 2.3 turbo and how many miles have seen these things log before dying. Is there at least aftermarket engine rebuild kits?

Overall, the 9-3 has a very comfortable cabin. Some of the interior plastics aren't the best but the ergonomics and driving experience is great IMHO.

Patience, kind Sir. Patience.

@@jeffryblackmon4846 You do you! All his videos are now 3 parters. We have a right to comment.

@@dosgos My buddy had a 2006 Aero package... very nice vehicle but the interior was low buck. Very cheap plastics inside. Like a mid 80's GM or Ford. Aweful. Lots of window ozone hazing from all that plastic.

@@dosgos My pet peeve about Saabs is they don't give you enough room for the gas and clutch pedals...I have wide feet. Really frustrating!

Are there fine hairs inside? Do they like to be torn by engine vibration?

@@engeneer_ru5827 It's more likely the extreme heat cycles that cause premature failure.

@@ferrumignis Could be thermal shock... But I meant this: _ ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MbcnYY5K12o.html _ (Russian language)

It could also be bad solder joints. In this era of electronics there was a push to switch over from leaded to lead free solder. Based on the heat cycles/vibrations there could very well be broken solder joints causing the issue as well

I think he said that the de-pinned connector was for the ABS module, not the pcm

Ha I watched Will's video on that, very informative!

Your post is why most of us watch these channels. the wealth of knowledge from the viewers educates us all. Keep it up.

@@dogsplantscarsneatstuff176 thank u very much, i like to "speak up" when i feel it helps

You are correct, ECM needs to ground on the engine

I was about to post the same thing! 10:05 shows the case ground. But be careful.. scannerdanner's abs module shows the case ground is for a reason lol. I've learned instead of using a jumper wire to ground, actually install the module :)

Was going to mention this as well.

The ignition switch is fine lol

My job tomorrow got steering malfunction see dealer , fingers crossed because fuses and battery lead removed aren’t starting it up

Your wife stops you from enjoying the birth of Jesus?

@@jeffryblackmon4846 NO,not really I guess. She took her own life in 2016 at the age of 49, we were married since High School at the age of 17. I found her in bed after she shot herself, I'VE NOT BEEN RIGHT SINCE. IT'S SOMETHING NOBODY SHOULD SEE ESPECIALLY OF THEIR WIFE. I worked 2 jobs before this, now I can't even deal with the simplest things in life. I'm a BUM, A LOSER, SCREW EVERYTHING UP I TRY TO DO, compared to what I use to be, IT'S BEEN HELL SINCE THAT DAY. Went to many, many Psych. Docs. take pills everyday, hell even admitted myself to 3 different Psych. hospitals. NOTHING WILL EVER HELP ME, NOTHING, NO NOT EVEN GOD. All I have left is my 1 Dog now that keeps me alive ( UNCONDITIONAL LOVE ) if it wasn't for him I wouldn't be here. Once he's gone I'M GONE. I only stay here because I don't know what will happen to him if I go, I CAN'T DO THAT TO HIM LIKE MY WIFE DID TO ME, HE'S MY BOY.

@@NoWr2Run very sorry to hear, I really hope you find further future happiness.

@@steveknight6298 T.Y. VERY MUCH but I know what my future is. AGAIN T.Y. VERY MUCH, SIR.

Henry that is a tragic story, cannot imagine the pain. Honored to have you in this small community of diagnostic gearheads...sometimes that is the best therapy, just trying to figure stuff out and fixing it :)

ALL MY OWN CARS ARE EXTINCT xD

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics the car company known as saab has disappeared gone gm vauxhall the parent co still get certain parts if you are lucky but a magician like you will fix the impossible

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics The Rogue isn't; but, technically that is your wife's car.

If you are confused, this gentleman wrote: "In my opinion, the conclusion about the malfunction of the ECM is not supported by the facts."

@@jeffryblackmon4846 I wrote message for Ivan...

What else to check?

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Это хороший вопрос! В России, другой ECM купить почти не возможно, поэтому так трудно принять решение о замене.