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R-37M Hypersonic Vs SM-6 / Aim-174B | F/A-18F Super Hornet Vs Su-27 Flanker | DCS |

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@GrowlingSidewinder Месяц назад

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@numberyellow Месяц назад

NGAD vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-57 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs SU-57, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs NGAD, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx

@peilunluo5827 Месяц назад

@@numberyellow Yeah bro that's what we want

@jackpatterson8389 Месяц назад

YUS! thank you GS

@VortexGaming175 Месяц назад

GS I am buying your hat

@user-qh8kf5kt8l Месяц назад

Я из России и плохо знаю английский язык, но я смотрю твои видео)❤

@10TonneSkeleton Месяц назад

5:40 the missile knows where it is at all time

@TheSuperhomosapien Месяц назад

It knows this because it knows where it isn't.

@Anton_Kalgin Месяц назад

By subtracting where it is, from where it isn't

@sujitbala1492 Месяц назад

these avgeek kids think they funny

@MonkeyZaur Месяц назад

the missile knows where you are at all time

@simiongradinaru7381 Месяц назад

When the hypersonic missile hit you in the beginning that jump scared me big time.

@andersjjensen Месяц назад

You and me both. I've learned to never drink anything without pausing the video. Today was a good reminder why.

@Budgeez Месяц назад

Same 😂

@solid_fire9388 Месяц назад

damn me too 😂😂😂

@case.98 Месяц назад

@@andersjjenseni recently had a moment like this while brushing my teeth… Huge mess 😂

@carlospinto5845 Месяц назад

Got a fright too. In hospital for a Angiogram.

@AdhmKassap Месяц назад

It's sad how is the most of the comments just ignoring the video and talking about other things like suggestions, first, etc.., this video deserve more attention, Great job GS keep the good work :D

@King_Dusty_Of_Pookytopia Месяц назад

We can talk about anything we want. Relax.

@erichiller4144 Месяц назад

Just because people are not talking about the video. does not mean they're not paying attention. I do. I learn a lot. or will learn more by throwing different aircraft suggesting different aircraft. So, I can learn better. Just like other people.

@TCJerzy Месяц назад

Are you going to cry?...😭😭😭

@RFYS2-4 Месяц назад

the online glazing is crazy, good video but chill bro lmao

@erichiller4144 Месяц назад

@@RFYS2-4 I was just letting people know I Am learning. I'm not mad. or upset.

@XfilerD Месяц назад

Hey GS, I've been watching you for the last 7 years. I begin to miss the TacView after the fight. Yes, I know many of us stopped watching it years ago and I'm sure the analytics show it. But please bring the TacView back to 80 miles BVR fights like these at least some times. I'd like to geek out on speed differences between the missile types and I want to see where they travel and where they end up falling when each of you successfully defeat them.

@tyapka 9 дней назад

Was thinking of the same thing. It is probably quite time consuming to do that, hence I assume he stopped doing that, but it would be really great to see those.

@yuvl32 Месяц назад

Oh, I so missed "It looks like we are saf...BOOM" part )))

@justindurand9110 Месяц назад

That R37 said not today !

@wingman2tuc Месяц назад

I think the first 3 needed more guidance. Test with adding an AWACS to help with guidance. AIM-174 is meant to be assisted by a big radar. I thinks it's seeker is for the las 10 - 20 miles

@bubblesofthecoast6393 Месяц назад

It is an AMRAAM seekerhead so it makes sense

@UnderTaker2OO3 Месяц назад

Dcs doesn't even have chaff and flare modeled correctly...let alone guiding missile on datalink

@Asghaad Месяц назад

@@UnderTaker2OO3 they definitely dont have that feature even for mid course correction guidance for modern munitions let alone third party mid course correction

@thecar1888 Месяц назад

Is it possible that the size of the Aim-174B increases the radar cross-section just enough to make the F/A-18 easier to lock?

@GrowlingSidewinder Месяц назад

That’s actually an interesting thing I hadn’t thought about

@danrosenthal9231 Месяц назад

@@GrowlingSidewinder One wouldn't think that a ~15 inch larger (thiccer) munition would make that substantial of a difference in RCS but it's entirely possible.

@toxickilljoy9037 Месяц назад

@danrosenthal9231 even one extra inch of thickness is quite a bit of a difference, just ask your mom 🎉🥳

@andersjjensen Месяц назад

The real question is if DCS models it correctly.

@lovemyself217 Месяц назад

I believe it's more about the shape instead of the size. A clean Super Hornet have RCS 5 times smaller than its actual size, disturb the shape a little bit and the RCS increase drastically

@Savage_Joshua_Himself Месяц назад

5:31 Do you remember what I sai-

@roceye Месяц назад

"40 seconds time to active"- that gave me Undiscovered Country (Star Trek) vibes when Spock was counting down the time to Khitomer...

@mcdonnelldouglasf-4ephanto607 Месяц назад

Those pilots with the mising texture helmets looks cool ngl :)

@GG-yr5ix Месяц назад

SM-6 is Mach 4.8 missile so it's only a little slower than R-37M. Aim-174B has way more range than your radar on fighter sized target.

@stevensutton2252 Месяц назад

You think specialist look at you sooooooo knowledgeable notttttttttttttttttt lol

@oddy1637 Месяц назад

@@pyronuke4768 reaches mach 7 at high altititude

@theotherguy982 Месяц назад

As I understand it, the SM-6 has a much more parabolic flight path, so it travels farther than the R-37M to hit a target the same distance away.

@stevensutton2252 Месяц назад

@@GG-yr5ix sm7 pole number 15 6.8 2.8 num nuts range 188 NM

@stevensutton2252 Месяц назад

R 37 not a jet kill system can't see them because seeker only tankers and large aircraft

@GlitchersCO Месяц назад

Would have really like to see the tacview on this one. I miss when you used to do them all the time

@Mav09 Месяц назад

F/A-18E/F vs F-35C (Fox-2 fight) would be epic to see! Navy vs Navy : Old vs New Day 68

@2mjz84 Месяц назад

Agree!!

@samgreenwood8313 Месяц назад

They should name this missile the Pheonix II, since being reborn in a more spectacular form is part of what the namesake is supposed to do

@kcmsterpce Месяц назад

The "Pheonix RZN"

@superbudegu Месяц назад

Lol, this is not the phoenix II, this is the return of the AAAM.

@skeletonjam Месяц назад

@@superbudegu aim 152 never served... the aim 54 served... this is the phoenix 2.0, not the cancelled aaam

@superbudegu Месяц назад

@@skeletonjam doesn't matter, the AIM-174 makes the phoenix look like a toy.

@skeletonjam Месяц назад

@@superbudegu and the aim 9x makes the aim 9b seem like a toy, but they are still sidewinders

@MrSageOlorin Месяц назад

I know they are using the Super Hornet as a testbed for the AIM 174b, but wouldn't other aircraft be able to carry it eventually, assuming their wings have the structural stability? Maybe, like an F-15E with AIM 174s vs SU 57 with R-37s? That could be a neat matchup. I would say it would be a good idea for the 'Outmatched' series, but the F-15's radar is kind of a beast...

@danrosenthal9231 Месяц назад

It's likely to be a predominantly USN weapon system given the existing users of SM-6.

@vincentvoncarnap Месяц назад

@@danrosenthal9231germany is supposed to station sm6s in 2025, maybe the german f35s use them too.

@rickykurniawann Месяц назад

It’s not only the testbed, it’s the primary launch platform for the AIM-174B because there aren’t any other aircraft in their inventory with the ability to carry the AIM-174B. Integration with other aircraft from other services would take time, while integration with F-35C seems impossible at this moment due to its gigantic size.

@MrSageOlorin Месяц назад

@@rickykurniawann Well, there are external pylons for the F-35C, but that would completely negate it's stealth characteristics.

@johnsilver9338 Месяц назад

Maybe, but their is still Raytheon's LREW.

@saadsajidul9001 Месяц назад

GS, our country went into a total blackout and curfew due to a massacre carried out by the government, this video was one of the only video I could watch as it was smart downloaded by YT. Thank you man, please keep us in your prayers. From Bangladesh 🇧🇩

@anotherHelldiver Месяц назад

Would you be allowed to elaborate further?

@corvanphoenix 8 дней назад

Good luck mate ❤

@shanemonsees4798 Месяц назад

With the legs on the AIM-174, the F-18E/F radar is underanging it. It is meant to be used with a datalink aircraft (specifically the F-35) to provide lock and the hornet to launch on that lock, not it's own. Could you put them in place of the AIM-54's on a F-14B with it's AUG-9 radar. It should have the range to take advantage of the AIM-174? I am not a DCS player, but love your videos.

@snakeoo7ca 28 дней назад

The F18 has datalink..

@shanemonsees4798 27 дней назад

@@snakeoo7ca that is how it can receive targeting information from the f-35 for the AIM-174

@pyro1047 21 день назад

@@snakeoo7ca His point is that the F/A-18 doesn't have a good enough radar to get the full use out of the missiles range, but since it has data link the F-18 can fire the missile based on guidance from the F-35 through their data link and using the F-35s superior radar.

@thunderlucas8923 Месяц назад

GS once again perfectly timing his lines before BLAM 😂 Love the showcase as always!

@Meteorslinger7.1 Месяц назад

SM6 is the John Holmes of air to air missiles!

@TR4Ajim Месяц назад

Isn’t bringing a 174B to a dogfight, like bringing a howitzer to a gun fight?

@GrowlingSidewinder Месяц назад

Howitzer to a knife fight yes lol

@davethewave1898 Месяц назад

easy to determine time window for missile vulnerability - make a chart of distance and time for the R77.

@BladeKi11a Месяц назад

Still waiting for GS go drop his version of the BF3 F-18 mission “Going Hunting”

@RockMountainYJ Месяц назад

He might not be able to as the likeness might be copyright material 🤷‍♂️

@BladeKi11a Месяц назад

@@RockMountainYJ It would fall under fair use. Copyright would have to do with using their engine and blatantly ripping it off and making it his own.

@alienhunter3 Месяц назад

5:35 I almost fell out of my chair!

@triparadox.c Месяц назад

I screamed a bit lol... in a gym too

@SHMUNK_P Месяц назад

BEST DCS RU-vidR OF ALL TIME

@GlitchedRedstone Месяц назад

I've always wondered why the US didn't seem so worried about our air-to-air missiles. You see russia, China, UK, and other countries creating long range and/or hypersonic AAMs. The moment that the US announced this, all my wonders were put to rest. I forgot that if these other countries have it, then the US already has it and isn't telling us about it.

@lord_kerman Месяц назад

And when they do tell you about it, they're probably just about to get something even better...

@danrosenthal9231 Месяц назад

Wait till you hear about JATM / AIM-260.

@hertzwave8001 Месяц назад

they are though

@johnsilver9338 Месяц назад

Their is still Raytheon's LREW for 4th gen platforms and AIM-260 for F-35 and F-22.

@JuanGarcia-ig4zl Месяц назад

Now your learning young grasshopper

@WolfA4 Месяц назад

They strapped an F/A-18 to an SM-6 missile.

@pancudowny Месяц назад

Interesting how highly-reflective recent missile development is of late-50's future air power/combat predictions: Interceptors delivering long-range, high-speed armaments at BVR targets, versus close-quarters dogfights that require/involve guns.

@Skewerz9 Месяц назад

those missiles slung under the hornet is reminiscent of the engines under a Hustler...sorta

@initialdevo4jacob3068 Месяц назад

5:31 famous last words: you remember what i sai-

@jim69del Месяц назад

Ok, is it only me that jump out sit when the missile hits like? I'm totally listening and focusing hard and then 🎉(hello). Awesome Job brother love your mini movies!!!!

@nelson8527 11 дней назад

Classic, first mission, you got to, remember about that missile, and boom!!!! lol. Love the videos man. Been watching you for a long time now.

@octobanipus4524 Месяц назад

The missle goes back to the last known position of the target??? Wth thats sick

@Hafgren 12 дней назад

"If you stick your head up, they'll reacquire you... I'm a little nervous about popping my head up here..."

@Jackal19x 12 дней назад

Hey that's my ship launching the missile in the photo! DDG62 USS Fitzgerald!

@kaesees Месяц назад

The R-37M is basically Phoenix-sized: about 10% more weight (1120 lbs for R-37M, 1024 lbs for AIM-54C), same body diameter (15"), slightly longer (13 feet and change vs 12 feet and change), slightly smaller wingspan (28" vs 36"). I suspect it can only be mounted to certain stations on most of their aircraft. Much larger than the AIM-120D, which is a little shorter but much skinnier (7" diameter) and lighter (354 lbs). Of course, the AIM-174B at about 21" long, 13.5" wide and 1900 lbs is a behemoth.

@DeckofcardsXD Месяц назад

Really good Now let's see Paul Allen's F-15 strapped with these

@Ryan-go6id Месяц назад

Been waiting for this matchup, good vid

@GreekFire.. Месяц назад

Love your vids, I hope one day to get into PC and DCS because of this channel.

@infinitybeyond6357 Месяц назад

174B mainly for the Pacific, no? so what would/could you do with no mountains and nothing but ocean?

@Chuck_Hooks Месяц назад

SM-6s have an anti-ship capability

@cassias456 Месяц назад

@@Chuck_Hooksyea sm-6 is anti any thing. And with proper datalink tecnicaly the f 18 could shoot out of its radar rage with like an aegis or thaad handshake.

@xavierwilmerng6317 Месяц назад

Because they can't model the multi-sensor datalink hand-off in DCS. Otherwise the missile actually has a 200-300NM range. Well beyond anything the Russians or Chinese have in development or in actual deployment.

@Chuck_Hooks Месяц назад

@cassias456 Likely 200+ miles when launched from a fighter. No doubt the SOP will be for F-35s, much closer to the targets and with superior stealth and sensors, feeding target information to launched SM-6s to take advantage of the missiles' range.

@vladlu6362 Месяц назад

@@xavierwilmerng6317nm is not Nautical miles. It's nanometers. Nautical miles is NM, capital. Please use proper units :)

@Anarchy_420 Месяц назад

Please fly The F/A-18F with AIM-174's VS The J-15 with PL-17's!

@miletello1 Месяц назад

The F model Rhino looks sooooo damn good 🥵

@neogenmatrix6162 Месяц назад

They need to redesignate this as the Phoenix II

@KristianBennett Месяц назад

He waits... Until I go into work to post

@truthseeker9454 Месяц назад

You can always get another job. 😄

@CNCMatrix Месяц назад

Go to the bathroom and use earbuds hahaha. Or just save it as a post work relaxation nugget when you get home like I do. It's like saving the best for last.

@warhawk4494 Месяц назад

Great video as always GS The missile was like "I hunger for sammwhich!!"

@Stellar001100 25 дней назад

Didnt even see it hit. Air warfare in the next 10-20 years is fucking terrifying.

@LegatusGaius 21 день назад

Whoever does the model for SM-6 needs to keep in mind that the 3.5 mach listed speed is probably assuming that the missile is being fired from sea level and climbing to altitude (up to 110,000ft) to engage the target. If you even fired it horizontally, it’s probably going to go faster, never mind from an aircraft that may already be moving near mach or above, and at considerable altitude.

@11bravocrunchie22 Месяц назад

10:13 the AIM-174/SM6 is 3,300 lbs with a 140 lb warhead.

@nastygen4 Месяц назад

Love the video bro thanks for the hard work

@greybuckleton Месяц назад

Darn, you seemed safely tucked away in those mountains.

@fleafrier1 Месяц назад

Another great video. Always enjoy BVR chess matches. Interesting to see how differences in missile velocity become more significant at longer ranges. BTW, what happened to that last fox3 from the flanker?

@mpaszti 5 дней назад

You mention being concerned about the wings ripping off due to the mass of the AIM-174B, that would mostly apply to missiles attached to the fuselage, not the wings. Missiles on the wings do not contribute to wing root load if pulling positive G's.

@X-Gen-001 Месяц назад

Dude, your videos are addictive to watch.

@Vanessaira-Retro Месяц назад

"When that Battlefield Theme Kicks In!"

@kithida2654 Месяц назад

8:45 hey man... whyd he say it like that?

@maxlin3442 Месяц назад

Ideallly, the F/A-18 will get datalink from and AWACS or F-35

@mrp8488 Месяц назад

Requesting Su-57 vs J-20.

@istvanbarta Месяц назад

@18:37 my first thought he will tight it out with a long range fox2 :D

@RH0DI 21 день назад

they ought to call that missile the firebird (or phirebird for... ya know)

@calvinstrikesagain Месяц назад

The peak speed of the SM-6 is listed as greater than Mach 3.5+, but if you use a rocket calculator, if the peak velocity is only Mach 3.5 at 135,000 feet on a 45° angle launch, then the maximum range is about 765,000 feet or roughly 144 miles. We know that the missile has mad an interception at 240 miles+ on an aerial target from a surface launch, so that requires that the peak velocity at 135,000 feet to be Mach 5.7. I think that it is important to remember the amount of copium from the Russian side.

@grenmoyo3968 Месяц назад

If we want to talk real copium, In reality it's also important that to remember that russian pilots have far less yearly flight time than American pilots. So the US has more time training than Russians. So while some airframes from Russia are pretty capable, the pilots flying them might not be as capable. So the difficulty mentioned about fighting off the tracking of the SM-6 might be quite a bit harder than a lot could manage.

@lamontoify Месяц назад

Never been this early. Great work.

@levegarex Месяц назад

Ever since your first vid on the aim-174B I had this question in mind. What’s the difference between it and the aim-260 long range anti air missile practically speaking?

@Mike_Romeo Месяц назад

Since there is nothing known about the Aim-260 (we dont even know what it looks like) we dont know.

@johnsilver9338 Месяц назад

AIM-260 is for 200-300km range and will be carried by both F-35 and F-22. AIM-174B is for 400+km range similar to Raytheon's LREW and will be carried by 4th gen platforms. However since AIM-174B can also be used to strike maritime targets it may stay with the USN.

@jonathanfarrell14 Месяц назад

It looks like one of my stock ksp missiles wanting to rip my wings off every time I pull great vid btw

@JustAMindlessDrone 14 дней назад

Love the Hornet. CF-18 :)

@machinech183 Месяц назад

Would have been interesting to hear more about effective use of the SM-6 and your radar. I'm fairly sure by mid vid people grasped just how compact the R-37 is, girthy the SM-6 is, and the effect on your g-pull and wings.

@chinuexe Месяц назад

ahh yes, the perfect video i was waiting for this whole time

@MAYDAYSIMULATIONS Месяц назад

Seems like a missle for the Tomcat

@macocwbyz72 Месяц назад

Suggesting a video with the new Lockhead Martin “mako” hypersonic misleading that has been announced as moving through additional testing with multiple platforms.

@jamieaulbach5120 Месяц назад

Im curious the size difference between and SM6 and an AGM88. Was a munitions guy in the Air Force but got to work with the F14 and in 2003 the F14 was still using AIM7's. As an Air Force guy we learned about them but I had never seen one in person. We quickly took down their AIM7's and gave them a 120 varient that had not been disclosed at the time.

@danrosenthal9231 Месяц назад

It's a bit less than twice as long as an AGM-88G, and more importantly about twice as thicc in diameter.

@ShootBlueHelmets Месяц назад

Why didn't you fire first? You had the high ground, Ben!

@miriamweller812 5 дней назад

Funny how you got mountains whiel he only got some hills. XD

@maytronix7201 3 дня назад

One of my favorites

@bartoszp.7798 Месяц назад

Don't ask me how but I just knew he will be shot in that mountain. I think that missile was defendable by sharper turn, heading more to the ground, but not with this payload under wings.

@jamesbarisitz4794 Месяц назад

Backseater thinks, "Why am I even here?" Nice 2nd round.

@williamhumber5890 Месяц назад

SM-6 without the booster section is actually about 2 inches less in diameter than the R-37M and about 2ft longer.

@louv4437 Месяц назад

I believe the new Aimram 260 which also has a 200 mile range is a bit smaller than the 174

@89volvowithlazers Месяц назад

great flight fun watch

@bandit_648 Месяц назад

You need to update your weather mod to the latest version 😉

@GrowlingSidewinder Месяц назад

I assume you're THE bandit648 that made the mod, would love to chat if you have a discord ?

@velvetsound Месяц назад

I was wondering which map and how you got those killer weather patterns. Would love a tutorial or details on how to get my weather looking like this.

@GrowlingSidewinder Месяц назад

@@velvetsound Checkout the mod here, everything is explained in the mod description www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3335023/

@lookythat2 Месяц назад

I would guess the AIM-174B would be carried on the F-18 in a similar load as the F-14 used with the Phoenix. Two AIM-174s, 2 AMRAAMs and 2 Aim-9Xs. The F-14 typically carried 2 Phoenix, 2 Sparrows and 2 Sidewinders. Two long range, 2 medium range, and 2 dogfight missiles.

@netwrkguy 13 дней назад

15 years from now, no missiles to sling. You'll be using long range Laser pulses!!!

@Combat-Agent-6 Месяц назад

You should strap the AIM 157 to the F14, I bes you will get amazing results!!!!

@AhHereWeGo Месяц назад

I wanna see the SM-6 on the f14/f15. Put those powerful radars to work and max the missile

@Orphican Месяц назад

Lol they made this thing to ensure no Superhornet ever gets above mach 1 while carrying it!!

@krasher2 8 дней назад

and why.... just why... am I craving the Tomcat !!!

@knndyskful Месяц назад

I’d love to see the TacView for this one

@australiandog9338 Месяц назад

Excellent work as always ❤ I wonder if any other aircraft will carry this missile

@KraigZero Месяц назад

I know we're seen the hornet equipped with these missiles, but can you do a vid with the EX and these AIM174Bs? PLEASE, cause im guessing they're working on that as well for both fronts

@user-lz8qo2ie7s Месяц назад

AIM174 only for navy

@Crazymattness Месяц назад

Damn this is one girthy boi youre shooting

@robertmajors1737 Месяц назад

I can't help but to think that they named this missile by comining the numbers of the amraam and the phoenix. 120+54= 174

@BS25999 Месяц назад

Depending on the modle used..(?) the SM-6 could have a very very powerful radar. It's the same 'brain' as an AMRAM but has four times the power output as it has a much larger array to transmit. So it will detect and lock on at much greater range.

@varmint87 Месяц назад

I don’t know if you can pull it off in DCS but it would be cool if you could use the cooperative engagement capability to keep yourself safe from the R-37

@ryanw1433 Месяц назад

Great video, but to complete the experiment, you need to swap seats!

@variant_oh8252 Месяц назад

I’ve discovered your channel in the last few days and they are great to watch the only problem is that I have no knowledge of aviation whatsoever so I have no idea what’s going on lol I hear you saying you know where he is and you probably see him on the radio but i know idea how to understand or use the radios or see where he is myself Edit: I just looked on your channel saw you have a couple tutorials these will be a massive help lol

@CharlesHuse Месяц назад

BVR fight: F/A-18 with AIM-174B vs. F-14C/D with AIM-54C. Sort of an OG vs. New Kid matchup. Make it happen.

@BruceyNukes Месяц назад

Just out of curiosity are you still running the same PC setup in your description or have you upgraded?

@GrowlingSidewinder Месяц назад

no sir, no upgrades same specs as video description.

@marka3504 Месяц назад

Not sure if possible but Ill throw it here, F-16 Block 30 bigmouth vs F-16 Block 50 in BFM

@MattTheLoader Месяц назад

What’s bulldog range on the Aim-174? Is your missile taking longer to reach target really a disadvantage? You might be able to get into a position where you’ve defeated your opponents missile while they’re still defensive from yours and use that to get into a better position.

@pyro1047 21 день назад

If by "Bulldog" you mean the missiles on board seeker going active, that's called going "Pitbull" and the missile has the same seeker as the AIM-120D so probably 15-20mi-ish.

@MattTheLoader 21 день назад

@@pyro1047 That is exactly what I meant! Thanks for the correction and info!