R&D Deep Dive: The Next-Gen Fighter Planes You’ve Never Heard Of 

12:58 the Japanese F2 is so successful at stealth that Simon's editors were fooled into believing it's a Typhoon XD

0:16 I hazard a guess but literally nobody thinks of the Su 57 in the same line as "the most advanced jet fighter in the world"

1:33 the kf-21 Boramae 3:39 the Hal AMCA 5:45 flygsystem 2020 7:11 the tf-x 9:55 the mig-41 12:26 gcap 14:42 analysis

you'd be able to track the MiG-41 on InfraRed from 3000 miles away when its at full speed lol

Sad to remember that in 1959, Canada was poised to be a world leader in advanced aviation technology. Then, like most innovative Canuck ideas, politics happened and it all came crashing down. RIP AVRO, gone but not forgotten. :(

I predict that before too long, Simon's gonna launch the Aerographics channel.🔮🛩️🛫🚀🚁

Amca is a decade away, and also the fact, design has been just finalised, and Metal cutting of the prototype has recently started. still a very long way to go.

Everything SK are building right now seems to be designed to become as proliferated as any Soviet or US product has been. The K2 tank in particular seems to be a jack of all trades and master of one (mountain warfare). The KF-21 looks like it will follow that trend of being somewhat of a 4.5 gen aircraft thats slightly cheaper and easier to build than others. South Korea are certainly on the upswing with their military hardware and with Poland bwcoming their surprising close ally now, theyre in a very secure place despite their neighbours.

Unfortunately there's been a recent development involving the Flygsystem 2020 and Sweden is no longer involved with the Anglo-Japanese fighter program since the UK wasn't willing to share any meaningful workload or technology with the Swedes. So they'll develop their own fighter through SAAB, which has proven themselves incredibly capable engineers time and again, and will probably seek economical partnership with other countries to share the development costs.

The turkish part seems to be poor researched. Turkey has a lot of experience when it comes to fighter jets. They produeced parts for the F-35 and have been producing F-16 under licenese many years. And Sweden has no particioation in the TF-X project and the only critical part seems to be the engine where there is a collabartion with BAE systems and Turkey's own progress creating an jet engine.

Can't wait to see them in action, in Ace Combat 8.

Love that you mentioned SAAB so many times. Made some great cars too.

It wasn't that the US wouldn't sell Turkey the F-35, its that they wouldn't allow Turkey to join in the development side of the program and wouldn't share certain secretive technical specifications. Turkey also bought the Russian S-400s AA system, and there were concerns that Russia would use the radar systems in those to improve their targeting abilities.

I think the generation designations for fighters (4th gen, 5th gen, etc.) will become increasingly less clear with time. The generations historically were defined sequentially by speed, maneuverability and, more recently, stealth. All of those are fairly measurable. But increasingly, the new cutting edge relates to avionics and the interoperability of the plane with various weapons platforms, as Simon was alluding to. Those aspects defy neat categories; the effectiveness of a given plane will be as much about its software, weapons and AI as it will be a function of the engines and airframe. The designation “6th generation” will be used for marketing purposes, of course, but the reality will be far more blurred than the clear-cut distinction that the terms “5th” and “6th” tend to imply. And I suspect we'll see a further increase in focus on upgradability... it will be more appealing to improve the capacity of a plane for $5 million than buying a whole new plane for $75 million. Those aspects of the aircraft that are becoming increasingly decisive, such as avionics, are also the ones that can be most easily upgraded, which will lead to even more blurring of the generation labels (Gen 5.1, 5.2, 6.1, etc.)

The music introducing the Turkish TF-X! Very brooding, very menacing!!!

The F-22 probably is the best in service fighter plane all around. Which is pretty astonishing as it’s been in service since what, 2007?

This makes the competition seem a LOT closer than it really is. Take a look at the US moving its advanced tech all home recently. All the advantages are being brought home and kept under tighter lock and key as progress continues at an even more accelerated pace. No other economy can keep up funding such projects.

The Mig-41 being able to go 4 times the speed of sound would mean that they'd already developed a stealth coating that can survive extremely high temperatures that would melt the coating off, and given the current state of the Russian military, I doubt their R&D department made such coating

Please make part 2 of this video which include FCAS, Fa-xx, Fx, J35, Jxx , etc

Comparing your agility against an F-35 is like saying you're a better basketball player than Gary Kasperov.

Anyone can build a concept car. Only a few can be profitable at full scale production.

the fact that the F22 is from the 1990s tech for the US and other countries are still working on catching up to that is pretty mind blowing. Folks like to complain about the size of the budget, but always being a generation ahead is the goal of a lot of these highly advanced projects. We already have the F35 now and the B21. Now working on 6th gen while others are still working towards 5th gen.

that flygen design up there, i tested that design in a simulation myself years ago while designing some advanced fighter jets not knowing this design actually exists and undergoing tests but it's a bad design. it's stealthy, but can't supercruise, turn rate is pretty much average, consumes a lot of fuel and SUPER HEAVY. SAAB needs to pull some really incredible techs to make a true fifth gen with that design.

Excellent video !

I really like the Boramae, it's like a baby F-22

When countries can't even home grow current generation tech, but decide they can outdo what is available, they're probably 2 generations behind the guys with the platforms in the air now.

Lol, Eurofighter stock photo at 13:00 looking a little funny...

I forget Simon, have you done a video about the YF 21? because at first I thought this was going to be about it. good video though.

Stepping back in time to the days of the SAAB Viggen, remember that? So my dad (ex-raf) was on holiday in Sweden and driving through the forest he came upon a set of traffic lights, they were red. So he stopped and a Viggen took off right in front of him, straight out of the mountain. He was impressed lol.

The F-35 has a 15 Billion dollar contract for upgrades. Any plane thinking it's going to beat the F-35, that would be the last version.

The Felon may be behind the cutting edge but it looks great doing it.

A video on the Yugoslavia aircraft program would be appreciated

If those other countries aren’t building Gen 5+, they’re behind the curve. If they aren’t researching next gen fighters, they’ve been left behind.

Mig-41 is a meme, just like 42 is.

I really enjoy your videos, not just this oen

Fly-G-system... Dear God Simon what in the blaze was that😂

When is the SU-75 Femboy intended to be operational?

1:40 - Chapter 1 - The KF 21 Boromae 3:45 - Chapter 2 - The Hal Amca 5:50 - Chapter 3 - Flygsystem 2020 7:15 - Chapter 4 - The TF X 10:00 - Chapter 5 - The MIG 41 12:30 - Chapter 6 - GCAP 14:45 - Chapter 7 - Analysis

Exciting stuff, thanks Simon

You forgot to mention the Air Force and Navy NGAD programs will produce two very different planes with shared technologies. The US Military learned from its mistakes of a one size fits all fighter. The needs of the Navy and Air Force planes are very different.

10:04 I just can't find video of SU-57?

Putin after seeing the 6th gen fighters: * chuckles * I'm in danger!

5:25 The wing design of the AMCA resembles the Swedish Saab 35F Draken from 1955.

Sir I would like you to make a video on all the fighter jet programmes currently in India Like Tejas mk1/1A Tejas mk 2 AMCA Ted-Bf and stealth UCAVs like Ghatak

You should do about the relocation of the temples of Abu Simbel, Philae & the other temples that were saved from the floodwaters of the Aswan High Dam

One of my favorite houses ever shown on your channel. Would love to own it!

Do a video on the m25 hellraiser

It’s an exciting time in military aviation! The development of fifth and sixth generation fighters is providing fertile ground for nations to advance their own indigenous aircraft, aerospace, and defense sectors.

I remember a decade ago western defense analysts were making fun of Turkey for even attempting to build a fighter jet. They said it would literally take Turkey 40 to 50 years before they even got to the phase of taxi tests for a 4th gen plane when the world had long moved on. In that 10 years Turkey build a drone empire, it has gotten to the point it's making actual drone fighter jets and the TFX has just done it's taxi tests and will soon fly it's maiden flight. Ps just for the record the RR engines are temporary and indigenous engines are already close to being ready.

I'm posting this before I even watch your video because I know that after I've seen it, I'm still going to think the same thoughts that I'm having right now. That is it doesn't matter whether it's a 6th gen fighter a 7th gen fighter or whatever it's going to be a Gen X drone that can outperform them all that will rules the sky and ultimately be the shnizdit of the skies. I feel it might already be sitting in a hanger at the Skunkworks in Groom Lake as we speak. 😊

I went up in an English Electric Lightning once, a T-2. We were doing over MACH 1 vertically, and overshot to almost 100,000 feet. It was most exciting. I think those tweaks worked. 👍😎🙃

But how many Shaq per hour do these planes go? How am I supposed to have a frame of reference without a realistic form of measure?! 😢

The Kaan already has the 6th gen feature of bi-directional information sharing with drone swarms

Tfx even did the first taxi test, why didn't you add the video?

Russia's Su-57 Felon (or Flying Potemkin at this point) is barely in service, the US uses F-18s as aggressors to train for it because that's about what the radar signature of the Su-57 is. It is not a 5th generation fighter, it is at best a serviceable 4.5 gen aircraft, if I'm being generous, despite Russia's ever reliable claims to the contrary.

The last time I was this early, she was like “is that it?”

Next Ace Combat’s gonna be lit.

idk if the felon is any good but god damn that plane is smexy

I don't think Saab has to worry anyone soon. Their project with Boeing for a new trainer for the USAF has recently been pushed back two years after already having been pushed back multiple times. I guess their digital engineering still needs some work. The Franco-German project doesn't really make sense because those two countries probably want very different things out of their jets. For the same reason, I think the British-Japanese-Swedish (-Italian?) project is more likely to be successful. They all likely want similar features in a jet, first being something with some legs to it and the durability to operate in a naval environment. The Boramae is likely to see export success, but I can also easily see the US developing something to undercut it. If the US enters that market segment, it would be difficult to beat the economies of scale. The Ukraine war probably makes it more likely the US enters the segment considering that Ukraine showed the need for another type of aircraft in the US inventory, the sanctions on Russia opened up a hole in the market the Su-75 was supposed to fill, and the US probably wants a new Freedom fighter to offer countries during this new cold war. As for India, well, its India. Who knows what they are going to do. They certainly don't.

There's also the BAE tempest in the uk... if it ever gets finished

Where's the deep dive into the SU57 Felon, I've been looking for it but I can't find it.

Where is the deep dive video of the su-57 referenced @10:04? I can’t find it.

So it's fair to say Türkiye is building a TAI fighter ?

Bro in a century we're going to be flying X-Wings Great video!

UK, Italy & Japan? That's certainly a mixed bag!

The F22 is still bleeding edge compared to what other countries can field that isn't US derived (Which China's plane is based on stolen airplane data).

Most of these aircraft are gen 4++ or gen 5+. There's quite a ways to go to be considered gen 6. The only ones decently close are the US with its NGAD and FA-XX programs. South Korea itself said its aircraft will be gen 4+.

Exterior hardpoi Ts defeat the stealth portion of the advance fighter?

Man Lockheed really nailed down the design of “stealth fighter”

Turkeys TF-X besides the engine is looking promissing and the lower range makes sense since they are recently building aircraft carriers + they have the required air tankers to fill them up whenever needed.

Very excited to see if the Tempest program takes off "no pun intended"

very interesting

Am personally looking forward to the time when a nation can create the Valkyrie V series for its Air Force (the V-102 was the official fighter in SDF Macross (Robotech)).

France, Germany and Spain are working on FCAS, but Tempest will be fielded sooner as it is a less ambitious project. More of a Gen 5+, beacuse unlike the UK and Japan, Germany and France have 2 companies that are producing fighter jets (Dassault and Airbus).

Did they call it the Borome because they totally borrowed the design of the f-22?

MiG 41 May end up like their new tank. Looks and sounds good but only 10 to 20 produced (maybe)

LOL at the Mig.

Seems like manned combat aircraft may be a thing of the past before I shuffle off this mortal coil.

SU-57 .. Russia has a FLEET of 2 of em.

I cannot help noticing how similar to the F 22 raptor so many of these airplanes look. I guess invitation is truly the greatest Warren flattery.

No mention of the UK BAeS Tempest, or the UK being the ONLY joint-partner on the F-35B Lightning II. The UK will probably collaborate with Italy, Turkey, and India.

The kf-21 is a made and developed South Korea with Indonesia, but it is important to know that they are getting help from lockheed martin, which makes the f-22, f-35, and the f-16 The kf-21 is a budget f-22

If you use a Rec.709 output node in Resolve and set the gamut mapping to “Saturation Suppression” you can fix that weird blue oversaturation issue in the background of your videos. This assumes you’re using resolve to color these videos (and hopefully edit)

I'm an engineer and follow military tech a bit, imagine of all those scientists and engineers and money built things to save our world, I sound a bit hippy now, our angry war ape species wont be around in such large numbers soon I think.

swedens new fighterplane is my favorit and the new number 1 beauty in the sky when it comes !!.. "5:57"

Can I please just have the f22 video?

werent mig and sukoi intergrated into one company? so the focus would be on sukoi builds rather than mig

Kaan made first flight yesterday 😅😅😅😅😅😅

Interesting that the Mig 41 (if it ever comes into being) has it's engine intake around the nose cone like the Mig 21.

A video on the Boeing MQ-28 Ghost Bat please?

Love that the Russian fighter is called the "Felon". I know it isn't spelled like that, but it's just too suitable

The Mig 41 will be ready for production about the same time Napoleon rides into Moscow. You hit the nail on the head Simon. These regional powers are all free to "ATTEMPT" developing a sixth generation fighter jet. Actually doing so is another matter entirely. While the US already has 8th Gen. on the drawing boards. Anything you see is fifty years behind where we are, or are we? We want to keep our adversary's guessing, wouldn't you? God Bless NATO. God Bless the pilots, best job ever! Pax Americana

I'm calling it Fly-G-System from now on

JAS 39 Gripen megaproject episode, when?

With Sweden joining NATO I see collaborating with the UK, Italy, and Japanese the most likely. The electronic warfare capability of Sweden's recent plane make it a compelling contributor.

The part about the Swedish plane is actually very out of date. Japan has replaced Sweden in the Tempest program and last year, the Swedish government tasked Saab with creating initial studies for what a next-gen fighter would need to be and how feasible it will be to develop domestically. Saab themselves have said that they're already developing several alternatives and that the Gripen won't be the last Swedish fighter. So it's most certainly not been canceled or folded into something else, but is more real than it ever has been.

G'day Evan & Simon, 🤔 I wonder if in advertising they will use "AMCA, It's fun to fly in the AMCA" The title in the rcommendation pane was "R&D Deep Dive: The Next-Gen Fighter Planes You’ve Never..." I was hoping the ending was going to be "...Seen"😉

Haha, Swedish Fly-G. Simon, it’s one word. Flyg means flight. Sounds like fleeg.

The jengu is hacked f22 . They couldn't steall all of the blue prints so a lot of it was guessed.

For all the crap that the French take, there is no doubt that France produces some outstanding aeronautical equipment