Well sir, if you would stop enabling her behavior, she would stop escalating. Want to "make it right"? STOP WRITING CHECKS and let her sit her happy ass in jail for a few days before you bail her out. Stop being a doormat.
What's stupid here is the husband. Instead of making excuses, he should be getting her evaluated for some underlying health or mental issue. If caught early, even Alzheimer's can get treatment that will help patients have more lucid episodes and stay calmer when things aren't so great. If nothing else, it gives them more time and better quality time together... AND she'll stop pissing off the neighbors.
Especially since lord know what she stole/ damaged/ copied... She also might be into ID theft. Not pressing charges for B&E and trespassing is flat-out stupid.
Story Last. ALWAYS PRESS CHARGES! At the very least, it gives you a great paper trail to guarantee you win any lawsuits you have to file if they keep bothering you.
I just retired from 35 years of nursing and I can tell you - people don’t turn into old cranky people, they start off as young cranky people and just get older and more cranky!
Story 2: Oh…you don't go freezing pipes. They'll eventually burst and even cause floods if nobody notices and fixes it. Karen could've been sued by two different people for large sums of money if either pipe burst. And this particular incident is all over some leaves and a pride flag. Add the update, where it turns out the husband is just throwing money at all her problems, he's eventually going to run out, and then the eviction will happen and/or Karen goes to jail
My question is, if hubby has access to hush money like it would take to keep the peace with that miserable old bag, why are they living in a trailer park? I've got no beef with people who live in trailers. Everyone's gotta live someplace. But I can't think of anyone other than influencers or nomads who are like, "Oh, yeah. Fuck living in a home. I'll just live in a trailer."
@@ulfrthered His "Hush Money" payments have probably all been in the region of $400.00-$1,000.00 for each event and that's not hard to come up with if it's only once every other month or so...
@@HappilyHomicidalHooligan I dunno about you, but if someone pepper sprayed my dog for shitting while I was picking it up? I ain't hushing for less than 5 grand. Granted I'd probably keep it quiet if it happened to me for 100$ and a genuine apology, but don't fuck with my dog.
@@ulfrthered I would never accept Hush Money from someone that Pepper Sprayed my dog...Pepper Spray is bad enough against a human (possibly Lethal if the victim has Asthma, COPD or some other Lung Disease) but to dogs with a sense of smell hundreds of times more sensitive that ours, Pepper Spray is nothing less that Pure, Absolute HELLISH Torture and due to their lower body mass, could also be toxic... No, you Pepper Spray me and I'll see you in Court (both Criminal and Civil), you Spray my Dog and the only people coming for you is the Coroner...I'll Sue your Estate for my dog's Vet Bills from Jail...
@ulfrthered 5 grand ? Thats cheap.. it would need to be enough to buy me a new bmw. Possibly a brand new top of the line pickup.. you know, so i can take my dog out walking where its safe from karen.
Pless tell me I misheard something. Karen pepper sprayed a dog while the owner was picking up their poop? I don't care how much money the husband offered me, Karen needs to answer for that
I've actually had that... multiple times. Im from the UK, but used to date an american girl, so i flew out there quite a lot. I had it from her aunt "Your from england??? Whats the queen like?" I dunno i never met her.. And i had it at some fast food place and it wasnt like it was some kid, who might not know any better, it was from a 40'ish something guy working behind the counter. "Are you english" Yep "So whats the queen like?" Your american correct, whats the president like? "I don't know i never met him" so what makes you think i have met the queen? just like in this country, people in power are heavily protected, you dont get to go near them.
First story, I'm a widow and neither of my children live in the area. If anyone had done any shoveling for me, I would have thanked them with a plate of cookies, especially since I had to have heart surgery.
That's the problem, there are normal people like you who would appreciate and unasked help and express their gratitude and then there are people like in the story, scolding the ones who decided to help out others. I'd be surprised if anyone would help me (it doesn't happen here or it doesn't happen to me, not USA btw), but sure enough I'd try to mask my surprise and show them how thankful I am.
My younger daughter makes spending money in the winter shoveling people’s sidewalks and driveways when we have snowstorms (which, being in western Maryland with climate change screwing things up, hasn’t happened _nearly_ as much as it used to!). This winter was the first time we’d had snow enough to shovel since the pandemic, and before that the last major storm season was when we had Jonas in 2016, so that says it all right there! Anyway, she made some good money (she charges $10 a driveway), and she used it to buy things for _other people!_ Talk about paying it forward!
There is a fun YT video where the crabby lady came out practically screaming at two guys who shoveled the city sidewalk in front of her house. She threw the snow back onto the sidewalk, yelling the whole time. Cops did get involved, but nobody got arrested.
I’m 33 and would love it if anyone shoveled any snow off my property. A path? Amazing. However my mom’s coworker had a guy who would go around shoveling the driveways of his neighbors’. He did several in near him. And guess what? A Karen complained to the neighborhood watch. How he was a “dangerous man” scoping out their homes. He quit shoveling after that post. 😢 yes Karen dangerous men go around shoveling all their neighbors’ driveways before stealing from them….where is the logic in that?!
Story 2: If Karen's husband asked me what it would cost to make everything go away, my reply would be: "One second. *Hit record on my phone* It would cost you growing a pair, and telling her this BS needs to stop, and not just with my property! She's committing crimes, and now she's rightfully paying the price for them! Do not attempt to bribe me again, or I'll show THIS to the police and office too!"
@@Summertime-ye3wg you can't since it's not bribery. you need to hold an official office in order for it to be a bribe (e.g. political office, law enforcement, in other countries also medical practice since it's government employment). At most this is contract law that YOU would be breaching, but good luck proving what the terms of a verbal agreement are (apparently verbal agreements are valid as well)
@@HellDuke- I read somewhere else that it might be considered "tampering with a witness", in case any of Karen's behavior was determined to be criminal. Which, I'm sure a lawyer worth his salt could come up with a few laws she's broken.
There is no reasonable amount of money that can buy me off if you pepper spray my dog. 4-5k if you pepper spray me, but 100’s of thousands if you spray my dog.
I would've said, "Fine, give me $200, and this'll all be taken care of." Then I'd give the check to the police and tell them how the husband tried to bribe me.
It's not bribery if it's a settlement offer. Once you accept the $200, you are legally obligated to uphold your end of the agreement because a verbal contract is enforceable. It only becomes a crime if the husband is trying to pay off the cops or judge to make the whole thing go away, but paying off victims is an entire well-funded industry. The only thing that the husband wouldn't be able to do is require you to break a law, such as lying to police officers.
Story 2 - OP handled that perfectly and I’m glad that she didn’t back down when Karen’s husband tried to bribe her into dropping the charges. When Karen’s husband told OP that his wife has ‘problems’ my reaction was ‘No $*** Sherlock’
If Karen pepper sprayed me? $10,000 to not press charges, but I'd still file a police report. If she pepper sprayed my dog? Assuming he didn't need vet care and wasn't permanently injured, enough $$ for me to move away. If he was injured, I'm going full scorched earth! No one messes with my 3 pound lovebug!
Story 4: I understand wanting to keep the peace, but sometimes the peaceful option is not the ideal one. OP needs to drill in the fact that OP doesn't just let anyone in for being friends.
"not pressing charges because I don't want a crazy angry neighbor" Are you crazy OP? YOU ALREADY HAVE A CRAZY NEIGHBOR! I would have pressed charges without hesitation just to teach the woman some boundaries. If you think that woman has learned her lesson you are as insane as she is!
Stupid thing of that story is the city having a rule regaring your alarm needing to be registered. Honestly, what sort of city has that rule, oh wait, money grubbing American cities.
Yes. You can drop them later if you need to, but Karen and the police need to understand that you are not friends and she has no business breaking into your house.
You don't need an excuse to not give someone a key to your house. Its YOUR HOUSE! Why are people so afraid to make law breakers pay for their crimes? You better believe I'd press charges!
Story 3: OP is 100% right about Hollywood being a waste of a LA trip, had to go down there every day while I was in makeup school and man I do NOT miss it. There is a really good Italian place there though thats tucked between some tourist shops, they had pizza slices bigger than my head, best place for lunch on a school day. But yeah, it was mostly dodging tourists who didnt get the memo, random people doing internet BS at the intersection, and Scientologists trying to get you to take their cult surveys so they can get your credit card information.
Story 1 - My dad (rest his soul) did that for our elderly neighbors whenever we get a lot of snow in the winter but the difference was that our neighbors were very grateful to him. OP and her husband were just being kind and neighborly and Karen spat in their faces. Hope she enjoyed shoveling her own driveway for then on.
My next door neighbors are horrible. The husband believes his property goes all the way to the outside wall of my house (and I had to pay a lot of money to get it surveyed AGAIN to prove it didn't). When he mows instead of mowing up and down like a normal person, he swings wide onto my property and makes what I call grass islands. Oh yes, and he scalps his lawn so he only has to mow it once a month. I live in Florida and what happens is he burns my grass with the scalping. Then he yells at people who come to my house to do work (he can't even see them from his front door (we are on a curve) yet comes right on over. I had some landscaping done after my pool was built. He actually came over and told the landscaper how MY property was to be landscaped - and it goes down hill from there. I have had to call the non emergency number twice, and I don't care if we are enemies. If he decided to get physical, which I doubt but one never knows, I am protected.
@@Ironraven001 I am working on it. Small town, now have 15 cops, too much to do and this is actually trivial to the real crime. I have to choose my battles .
Story three: I had a similar experience with a guy I met through a music chat room, who came in from Michigan. I took him to Rodeo Drive, Grauman’s. I took him to a concert. He complained that he didn’t see any celebrities. Turned out the Oscars were that night. We stood outside the theater and I told him, they were all in there. lol. I wasn’t attracted to him and I had plans for the next day. He expected me to spend more time with him. He got pissed off when I told him no. He turned out to be a nightmare after that.
S1. We had a bad snowfall and a random plow driver scooped out my driveway apron. He didn't do the whole drive just the apron and I was so very thankful. Don't know who it was and I would of let him know how much I appreciated that! Last story: he already has a bat crap crazy neighbor that broke into his house. I would press charges!
Story 3: That sounds like my mom. I moved to a new city a few hours away from where I grew up, and every time she drives up here (mostly just to go shopping, not see me) she expects me to be her own personal chauffeur. When I do drive her somewhere, I have to listen to her go on about how she is a better driver, how she has driven on bigger highways, how she was coming to this city way before I lived here, and how she was just better than me in general when she was my age. I asked her why she doesn't drive then, and she makes some excuse about some issue with her car.
Stop at the first available point, get out with the ignition key, go around to the passenger side, open the door, tell her to get out, when she does, hand her the key, tell HER to drive. Put up or shut up. If she refuses to get out, hand her the key, sit in the back of the car until she realises the point you're making. Then never drive her anywhere again. (Phase 1 worked with my wife, btw!)
Last one file the charghes for entry under false pretences, and take the keys away, plus file for a trespass order against her as well. House security add in cameras as well, because if she is seen on your property with that order her next few nights will be in the greybar hotel, and then a judge telling her she will do 60 days if she is found on the property again, or within 300 feet of OP.
If she pulls that and the cops get called, there’s a LOt of damage she could do in 8 minutes… No amount of jail time may discourage someone like that and she could easily weasel out of doing some of that time, then come back with a vengeance… That’s all theoretical mind you. OP definitely needs to protect themselves as much as possible
I get why people hate confrontation, but damnit, stop getting pushed around, fight back, press charges, and if she hates you for it, so what, now she has a criminal record and if she tries anything you have the means to push back because if the history she has
Key's Story: OP was EXTREMELY Stupid... The moment she walked in the door to find 2 Police Officers and Karen, she should have looked at the nearest Officer to Karen and said "Cuff her! I did NOT give her permission to enter my home nor did I give her a copy of my keys..." I would have, then I'd have called a Lawyer to get a Restraining Order (No Contact & Stay Off My Property) against Karen, to be Served on her while she's in Jail waiting for her Bail Hearing on the Break & Enter and Trespassing Charges...
Heck, the highlights of that trip were Universal Studios, Ripley's Believe-it-or-Not Museum, the Guinness World Record Museum, and the restaurant, Phillipe's (where the French Dip sandwich was supposedly created).
No 2 hubby thinks that money will fix things, but now there is absolutely going ot be a move in Karen's life, and the husband, long suffering, might actually grow a spine, and realise that a K free life is the thing for him, citing her getting them evicted for petty vandalism as the last straw.
Last story: You press charges and change locks/garage door frequency. You also get a restraining order as Karen has shown she will break into people's homes. Doesn't matter if she lives less than 1000 feet from you. Lastly, you get a camera installed, so when Karen lashes out, you have her crazy ass on film, and you press charges again and request she be incarcerated or hospitalized for being bat crap crazy.
If someone breaks into your home and you don't press charges, you're just telling them it's fine for them to keep doing it. OP is gonna regret that SO hard.
Shoveling snow story: That Karen has never learned how to be grateful for anything. Leaves vs water pipes story: The sooner Karen and company are evicted, the better off the trailer park will be. Fluff, keep an eye out for any more updates on this if Karen actually does get evicted. Walk of fame story: They were how old and still that naive? Good grief! Celebrities tend to do everything they can to protect their privacy, including bodyguards to keep strangers away when they have to be in public. But if you want to go see the sights, go to a tour bus company. Sheesh! House alarm story: At that point you press charges, period. Then file for a restraining order.
I live in Hollywood. The only time I've "met" celebrities outside of film sets on which I'm working, are at SAG events that have Q&A with the project stars, directors, et al. Once at the grocery store years ago I saw Tony Todd (I did not bother him), and a short-film director whom I was working spotted Scott Bacula as we drove by him). That filmmaker was Huck Botco, who later would go on write _The Last Exorcism_ and a few other features.
My experience is NOT the norm, because I have met a few celebrities (mostly TV) and wasn't in The Industry. However, I grew up across the street from a popular filming location. And then there was the time met one in my building's lobby. Most people who aren't in the entertainment industry in the LA area won't meet many celebrities unless they live next to them or work for them.
Final Story - Yeah I’d be on Karen’s enemy list for sure. I’d try to keep the peace at first but after she tries to break into my home I’m pressing charges against her.
Last story: I'm not afraid to make enemies of my neighbors. I've had lots of shitty neighbors and had no qualms about holding them accountable. I would have pressed charges for b&e, especially since she broke into TWO apartments and didn't think it was a good idea to leave with the alarm blaring. There's something wrong with her and she needed to learn a hard lesson. Some people are too nice.
1st one OP should have opened the door while Karen was shoveling. Just to say to Karen "Just imagine if you weren't so rude last time. My husband would have cleared you a path. " Then shut the door while she did the most evil genius laugh she could.
#4: Neighbor Karen is what used to be known as "criminally insane." If the neighbors don't grow a collective pair and start pressing charges, she’s just going to get more intrusive and more dangerous. People, START PRESSING CHARGES!!
Story 2 - OP shouldnt have gone immediately over, OP should have contacted the local police and informed them straight away of the situation, informed them they have video proof of the neighbor messing with their water line and to come and have a word with them because messing with someone's essential service is actually against the law, since it falls under a human rights issue when it comes to running water. Also, as I said in another comment, OP should have informed the police that the husband came and tried to bribe him. That is called interfering with a witness.
As someone who grew up most of her life in Southern California, the Inland Empire, about 60 miles away from Hollywood, when someone tells you traffic is bad, traffic is bad. I currently live in central California. When people complain about traffic I usually roll my eyes and say I used to live in SoCal. If you want to see celebrities, Hollywood isn’t the place. There are tour companies that will show you where they have a house but unlikely they will be there. A majority of celebrities live outside of Hollywood so they aren’t bombarded by crazy tourist like Karen and Ken. I lived near several. Just to give an idea. I’m not naming names so don’t ask. I went to elementary school with a child star. A certain TV stars nephew went to school with me and the star attended my 6th grade school play. A certain alternative rock band drummer was my friend’s neighbor. My high school was in a Jim Carey movie. A boy band shot a video in my city. The marching band of the community college near where I grew up is usually the marching band used for movies. Also Hollywood is more of the “corporate office” not the workplace.
@@JamesDavy2009 And that's the reality of living in SoCal. The closest connection a lot of people have to celebrities is seeing some or knowing they're close. Kind of like seeing a kangaroo in Australia. Betting most Australians don't have a pet roo but have maybe seen one up close.
Expecting someone in Hollywood to know celebrities is like expecting someone in Florida to have been to Disneyworld every weekend or to have a membership to Mar A Lago.
Last story: Didn't want to release the crazy? She broke into your friend's house to get the keys to break into your house. The crazy has already been released. Press those charges, you've got expensive stuff in your home that needs protecting and you don't need her poking into your business.
The one talking about LA was right on the money! I lived there for years and I won't drive there anymore... Moved away to Arizona in the late 1970's. The "air" was killing my daughters. 🤔🙄🤷🎉🎉💋💖🌵👵🐺🖖
My upstairs neighbor left dripping water on my home for 8 years then cut my acess to water saying that the expensive bill was MY fault!! Now he can aproach the building by judicial order!!!
If Karen pepper sprayed me in the face for no reason, of course I would press charges and if her husband tried to persuade me with the bribe, I would add that to the lawsuit against both of them. That is what I would do. Last Story: Fucking press charges! Don’t be a doormat OP!
I'd say if your wife has problems she needs to get them fixed like anything else around here. Are you going to pay for her mistakes for until you're dead?
There was a beautiful mature tree in my garden, on moving in neighbours stood on something to peer over the fence and said.. I hope it won't be long before you remove that tree, the leaves mess up my yard. I stared and replied. I like trees and talk to them often,this tree has been here longer than the houses and I don't care if leaves blow into your garden, it's out doors and leaves shouldn't be a nuisance. That tree is my friend and it's going nowhere. You can bet the whole street new what I said within a day😂 they never spoke to me again! Win for me🤣 I don't talk to trees but I do like them very much! Silly billy neighbours.
Story 1 - I'm 68, and now live where I get roughly a foot of snow over the winter. Maybe all at once, maybe spread out over 2-3 storms. Sometimes more, sometimes less. I live rurally, with a gravel driveway. I bought a smallish snow blower. Battery powered, because my shoulder could not handle a pull cord. I shovel my front porch and ramp, and snow blow the driveway, in batches for the battery to charge up again if need be. I'm fussy and want it done the way I like it. I'll do it myself, TYVM.
The last story is why I'm planning to replace my external-facing doors' keys with a fingerprint-based one. No danger of anyone ever stealing anyone else's keys.
Story 2: OP should have told the husband "If she is that fucking crazy then have her committed to an asylum." Story 4: Even if I didn't press charges (yeah...right) Karen would have definitely been Trespassed and told she would be arrested if she ever set foot on my property again.
Story #2: just go straight to the police without going to Karen first and file charges! She trespassed, she destroyed property, etc. But yeah. OP did everything right and it's so funny to hear, that there is a pattern with this Karen. I would give her a year, tops! Then she will be evicted. Or in jail. Or both. OP's reaction to the pay check was awesome!! I would totally so the same! Like "oh.. I paid 40k please give me 80k and we are good." Story #3: I say: "we leave at 3 pm, at the latest!" as soon as it's 3 pm: "hey I'm leaving right now. You either come with me, or you stay. Bye!"
The last story, I'd press charges, because she was in there without supervision, door wide open, and without permission. What was her reason for being in there? Why did she not ask OP for permission? Why is she so dead set on getting into OP's house!? If it was me, I'd have her searched, and press charges, and tell her off for breaking into my house without my knowledge and claiming to be best friends with me. Best friends would be polite enough to have a reason and have my permission to be in my house when I'm not home.
I'd take $5k cash to drop the charges, then have no idea what he is talking about later. It'd likely drive him to going wild and the last strike...ending in jail and eviction.
If anyone pepper sprays me OR my dog, I’m getting police involved, idc how much money I’m offered😂 I care about my dog more than I care about money lmao
I'm from California, and certainly have never had any opportunities to sit around chewing the fat with celebrities. Over the years I've had a few celebrity sightings from a distance of famous individuals who have had varying degrees of name recognition (David Hasselhoff is probably the most famous), but I've never even been close enough to get a handshake or autograph or anything like that (and perhaps a bit ironically every single time has always been outside of California when it happened).
story 1: if she was gonna be ungrateful then she can pay for the salt and time shovelling. story 2: what are they supposed to do about leaves blowing in the wind?! story 3: what makes you think op has famous friends or is a professional tour guide?! story 4: i'd file a report on the principle of her BREAKING INTO MY HOUSE!
Wind chill is a "manufactured" measurement, based on ambient temperature AND wind speed to calculate a perceived temperature. The ACTUAL Ambient Temperature is the "real" (not perceived) value. If the temperature is 40 degrees and the wind is forty MPH, there will be a wind chill factor but not a freezing temperature.
Security cameras are an amazing invention. For relatively cheap you can have eyes on your entire house 24/7. It’s an investment but it’s peace of mind. Also dash cams are almost mandatory. You hopefully won’t need it, but when you do it could be a lifesaver.
#2 - I want neighbors like OP has! Not the Karen, the old lady who takes bong rips and has game night! I'm up for a little Canasta or Cribbage and brownies! LOL
This is why I'm glad I get along with "most" of my neighbors. Only one I haven't really got along with are the richy people who think moving from the big city to out here in the boons is a trending fad and they look down on us country folks like we're lower than dirt because we don't dress up in fact clothes, drive fancy new cars, out yards aren't manicured landscaping, and 90% of live in double wide trailers.
Story four I was going along at the end just weird. She got a landlord. She had got a fine security. That would be her responsibility. I’ll be sending that to my landlord then you always press charges no matter what.
Story 2: if the husband really wanted me to drop the charges, I would give him an ultimatum that would either completely destroy his marriage or finally make it clear to what extent I truly hated them as neighbors.
Excuse me WHAT?! What kinda dystopian government requires a license/registration for an ALARM of all things?! In that story, OP's reagion of residence is even more intrusive and entitled as their neighbor. Best of luck to OP having to live day by day under that harsh a thumb... that is seriously unsettling.
