After the SECOND time the 'plate lady' broke one of MY plates, she would forever (in MY house) be eating her dinner off a PAPER plate and her drink would be in a red solo cup. I MIGHT also ask her if she's seen a DOCTOR about her coordination problem that is causing her to drop plates all the time. But I'm petty like that.
That's where my mind went with the repeated breakage of OP's heirloom China. It was not SIL's to break even if it "wasn't her style". Far as I'm concerned, OP was more than giving to serve SIL on toddler's plates .
Sharing means - YOU keep your stuff and give to others as you seem fit. Because it is YOUR stuff you are free to decide if you want to share or if you want to keep your belongings to yourself. This worked perfectly on our playground & most children were very understanding and waited until the owners of any given or interesting thing were ready to share 😇
In my state if I got fired for any reason besides a planned end of employment term (like a seasonal/temp job), I would be able to get unemployment benefits while I search for another job. If I quit, I am automatically disqualified for unemployment benefits.
I work at a job where THANKFULLY my manager understands what a Karen is, I'm a busser and I constantly get asked to get extra salt, extra ketchup extra packs of sugar, it wasn't my job but I did it occasionally if I heard it or I wasn't busy, but the moment they're rude or demanding is the moment I stop giving a shit
Story 5: Why is the husband backing SIL? She literally demonstrated that she would gladly destroy stuff she dislikes, why should anyone agree with that? Her behavior is childish, so she gets the child's plate, also the embarrassment is well deserved
I had a coworker tell a mean woman "I hope you have a better day." The woman looked shocked and then left with one last huff. The next day she came in to apologize and admitted she was legitimately having a bad day that day, and the comment snapped her into self awareness and she was embarrassed. She was cool after that. But I don't expect this to work on everyone lol
I'd just tell them to have an interesting day if the behavior is consistent. Because interesting isn't inherently bad or good. But people skew towards good when it comes to interpreting how it is used. You, however, could still say it as a way to say 'have a shitty day,' without the negative repercussions.
I had a dude come in to cash a work check once but our system kept declining it. I tried about three times and our system just wouldn't take it. Dude was furious, cussed me out six ways to Sunday and stormed out after I'd told him there was nothing I could do to make the system accept the check. About a week or two later he came back and when he saw me he rushed over telling me he'd been coming back daily since our interaction to see me. I usually worked the night shift but happened to be on a morning shift the day he'd come in with the check and he just happened to be swinging by for some groceries that night. Told me that day he'd needed that check to pay his rent or he'd be late and that's why he was so upset, but then told me regardless it didnt excuse him treating me badly when the situation wasnt my fault. Have to admit I was really taken aback because it's not very often that a rude customer in the moment would own the mistake and come back to apologize. I accepted it graciously and wr had a nice chat for a bit before I had to get back to work. After that he was polite as peaches when he'd see me in the store. Really made my night though. ❤
Story 5: are we just gonna ignore that the plates that SIL is breaking are inherited, making them family heirlooms, and she's outright breaking them. I'd keep track of each broken cup, bowl, and plate and send her a bill. The disrespect and audacity to break someone else's dishes. The least OP could do is remind her of her "accidents" when asked why OP is upset. I'd have served her on a charger plate (the plastic kind)
Story 5: NTA. Sister in law really proved the point that she was the big baby meant for those toddler dishes. And the husband cares more about rocking the boat than his wife.
@@selwynowen6213 I don't know about that, SIL's parents did not approve of her behavior and sided with OP. The husband seems to be the only one siding with the SIL.
Having sold at craft fairs etc. I can guarantee there is very little chance any of the booths need/want to hire. Most of them are run by the owners that MAYBE make enough profit to pay themselves. For most of them it's a side gig. There are some dedicated crafters that put enough time into it they do well, but most are just making enough to make it worth it. Try a brick and mortar shop that brings in enough to afford employees. That lady is nutso.
Yup. My best friend sells at this stuff and I'm working towards joining him this year. We both have full time jobs and just do this on the side to help pay the bills. He often doesn't make enough money to pay HIMSELF minimum wage for the hours he puts in.
My friend sells knick-nacks at a flea market, but that's only a weekend gig for him. During the week he's employed as a camera operator, so no, he's definitely not looking to hire anybody; and from the other people he knows at the flea market it's the same type of situation.
It was an elaborate but stupid act to try and steal stuff. They alomst got away with it during the first encounter. When the daughter tried to leave with the jewelry she had without paying. But op's husband stopped them.
Last story: NTA. SIL is just crying because somebody called her on her entitled BS. OP was right giving her a child plate since she wants to act like a child.
As someone who’s worked retail for 16 years I have had parents treat my store like a daycare or playground. I once even had to help a crying toddler find her mom. The mom just brushed everything off when we returned her daughter. I whispered to an employee, who’s also a mom, one way ticket for your kid’s head to be found in a swamp (Adam Walsh reference) I swear when it’s my last week or month on the job I’m going to say that to the parent of the loose child. See if it’s a wake up call. To parents who do leave their kids with random people. How do you know that person isn’t a kidnapper, or child molester, or human trafficker or any other type of criminal?
I have to wonder if they are the first to try a lawsuit if something happened due to their own negligence and blatant stupidity. I don't go to a daycare to shop for groceries or clothing; likewise I would not drop off a child or baby at a store for child care.
If you're the type of parent that would leave your kid with a random stranger or just plop them in a toy aisle to distract them while you run off to do whatever, then chances are you won't really care what happens to them unless there are repercussions for you; or if you can use them as bait for a lawsuit (which would more than likely backfire).
Once I was AM of a game arcade in a Mall. An EM comes in and tells me to watch her 8 year old son while she shops elsewhere, and to "not let him leave"! I told her in no uncertain terms, "I'm NOT a daycare, I'm not insured, have no authority to watch him. And if he leaves, I cannot and will not stop him." She huffed off with her kid. 😅
@@lancerevell5979 Yes call police immediately about an abandoned child, and let them take care of it. If she says she told the shop to care for the child, then the charges change from abandonment to wilful neglect.
I used to volunteer at a charity shop, early to late 00's and a Karen left a 5 ish year old kid in the shop while she went to get her hair done. Never said anything to me or anyone just plopped her kid in front of the toys and children's books and walked out. I heard the kid crying, as the toy section was out of sight of the tills and the manager called the kids grandparents, as they were thankfully regulars (the manager remembered the kid being with them) and the grandfather had to leave his wife in the hospital (she was having tests) to come get her. He was P!SSED and called his son, who was on a business trip and the police. Last I heard she got divorced, lost custody, she went to jail for a bit, and had to go back to Nigeria after she got out. (Edit: the cops said awful parents leaving their kids with complete strangers to look after is a far too common occurrence)
God yes!!! I was assistant store manager for Claire's for years. I can't tell you how many times people left their kids in our store expecting me to watch the kid(s). I got very good at warning the parent and calling security to get the kids. Serves the parent right to not know where the kid is after that stunt. I know of a couple of them that were arrested because they left their 6ish y/o child for over 5 hours.
The plates broken by psycho SIL can probably be replaced by doing a search online… there are thousands of old styles available and they can be freaking expensive. She should replace every plate and sue SIL
Maybe they can be replaced and maybe not! I’ve inherited my maternal grandparents dishes - Grandpa gave them to Grandma Christmas if 1921 and they married on Feb. 2, 1922. I’ve had them registered with a company in NC who helps,people find replacements - It’s called Replacements, Inc. They have never ever found a single dish for this set - only a couplet small dessert type dishes that are very damaged! So NO, these dishes cannot be replaced!!!
I don't people who maliciously break my tableware. I can't imagine feeding anyone who thinks that's an over the top reaction. That woman has clearly gotten away with far too much during life that's been entirely too long already.
Story 3: Sharing is caring, but not everything is to be shared. Also, the fact that Karen was just a random person makes me wonder if she just goes to parties, invited or not, to steal s**t. And the contempt towards disabled people, that seems to happen quite a bit, we need to get rid of that
The whole "sharing is caring" is pretty damaging, actually. It was a mentality foisted on me when I was a kid and the adults around me prevented me from setting boundaries with my belongings (as in nobody would let me have any boundaries and told me to share no matter what) and as a result too many AH other kids destroyed my things or relatives tossed things I wanted to keep without asking. It still irks my socks my mother allowed her boyfriend's daughter to borrow my flared jeans, a pair that was my favorite and gods willing would still have been in my wardrobe today, and the seeyounextuesday kept them because she thought since my mom worked in the medical industry we had all the money in the world (we didn't) and I was somehow the bad guy for demanding them back (I didn't get them back), or lent my barbie corvette that I had since I was 6 to her boyfriend's other daughter's son and let him break it when I'd, until that point, kept it pristine for 15 years(I was actually an adult by that time-- imagine lending out someone's special belongings like that "just because it's a toy" but she sure wasn't lending out my brother's toy camel). It undermine's a child's sense of property in a big way, and yes, some things that belong to a child need to be allowed to be them-only, *especially* when they've grown up. I absolutely loathe how "share-happy" adults were in the 90s that they never learned how to stfu and sit down when the kids grew up. Mind you, the "share-happy" generation of parents are the ones that are now the ones you see in justnoMIL and entitled parents that stomp all over boundaries and scream "but faaambly" when they don't get their way and invite themselves to live with you and your spouse.
@@impishrebel5969 Besides, teaching your kids how to share ALSO means teaching them patience. Something that a Karen could never possibly comprehend. And you're absolutely right about boundaries. Nobody has the right to decide for somebody else's kid what they should do with their personal property. And the fact that they just crashed the party, made off with some free cake and almost the girl's toy, it has me concerned that this woman is actually teaching her son how to STEAL. Because unfortunately even shoplifters and scammers have kids.
The thing about sharing is caring is that if you ask for something, I no longer consider it sharing; so I don't care if I refuse your request. If I offer you something (a drink, a snack, a meal, movie, or turn on the video game consol); then that is sharing and is a display of my trust or affection for you. I absolutely hate to be pressured into something and giving in to pressured charity makes me feel resentful, especially if a rebuttal is offered after an initial negation. I'm alright if they ask for a can of soda or something small that I would have offered anyway if I thought about it, but I won't get the warm feelies I might get if I had offered initially. Granted, I'm also Autistic so my take on the social niceties of sharing might be off the norm.
Exactly the contempt towards people with disabilities needs to stop. It is not their fault that they were born with a disability. I actually read a comment on another RU-vid channel, trying to blame the parents for the way that the child turned out disabled. I really ripped into him. I used to be a team leader, supervising, adults with disabilities. Teaching them, how to do different jobs. You treat people how you want to be treated with respect, doesn’t matter if they look different you treat everyone the same.
Story 1 - I don’t blame OP for quitting after having to deal with that Wicked Witch of a Karen. There are times where minimum wage is Not worth the daily stress and mental abuse.
Karen: I'm filming you, I'm filming you. I'll show the whole world what a horrible person you are for not smiling while a customer abuses you. I'll prove it while waving this camera in your face while you ignore me! OP: Karens filming their own meltdowns to load on tictok. You've never heard of irony have you?
There's no point where minimum wage is worth the daily stress. Double minimum wage, then we MAY consider dealing with it. Quadruple it, and sure, we'll deal with the bitchy Karens.
In the last story. Those few items broken out of the china sets could be hundreds of dollars if OP wanted to charge her SIL. My MIL has spent that much to replace china pieces inherited from her own mother and grandmother. Even simple Fiestware costs like $40 a place setting for current colors, retired colors can be much more.
"Attention Shoppers, we have a free baby for anyone interested. Please come to the front if you'd like to take him home. Seems like he needs someone who will take better care of him."
Story 3 - This story really aggravated me.😡 It’s bad enough that the EK acts like a little monster but the Karen Mom’s behavior was disgusting. And what she said about OP’s cousin… 😤 She would have been on the ground spitting out teeth if she had been in my presence. I wish that OP had filed a report on her regardless if there’s already a report against her.
Fabric Story: Once EM left her kid and didn't return for several minutes, OP should have pulled out a phone and dialed 911 to report an Abandoned Child... I would have...even if the Boss doesn't like it...and if he Retaliated against me for calling the Police, I'd call the Department of Labor and file a Formal Complaint against him...
100%! The law protects you for reporting illegal activity, yes you might lose your job but then you can sue the boss and ruin their life if you need too. Hell in civilised countries the boss would not even be allowed to fire you and the threat to do so over such an act could net you emotional distress paid time off work.
Violence may not always be the answer, but it is always a question. "Is Violence okay here?" and with Story #3's OP, the answer is "Yes". Story 5: OP had every right to embarrass the SIL and since the husband is on her side, I'd seriously think about the relationship. If he's not willing to have her back when it comes to things that she inherited from her grandmother (assuming dead due to the Update) then what else won't he have her back on? I'm glad that the FIL and MIL are willing to pay for replacements even though the bratty SIL won't.
SIL not going to be invited to all gatherings in future, and if there she will not be given anything other than the toddler plates. Break other things and she will be never invited to any of the family again.
Story 1: I don't hate my job ma'am. It's you I hate. Story 3: it's her toy. You need to teach your child that no means no. Story 4: does this look like a child daycare center? No, it is not. It is a fabric and craft store. I am not paid to watch your child. I am paid to cut fabric. If you don't want me to cut your fabric with you present then I will call the police and have you removed from the store for loitering. Story 5: I don't care if the plates aren't your style. They're not your plates. Do not apologize. SIL was being a bitch. If she doesn't want to get treated like a spoiled child, she should act like a spoiled child. Breaking someone's dishes just because you don't like them. It's not acting like a grown up.
And got the last story, what's to stop her from deciding to break other things she doesn't like? Ugh, I don't like this TV, smash. This isn't the color carpet I would choose, should red wine and smashes chocolate into it. Who in their right mind things it's acceptable? Even if the plate personally offends you, just don't go to the diner.
No 4 the boss is an ahole, chasing profit rather than caring for the ones who generate it, the staff. So forever having a revolving door of staff, and never realising the reason that he has poor sales is facing him in the mirror.
I spent nearly eight hellish years working in cinemas. - Staff generally were great and so were most of the customers. But you could guarantee at least one entitled parent a week. We would do 'kid shows', early Saturday performance of a child friendly film from around 10 a.m. cheap tickets and EVERY piece of advertising stated children must be accompanied by an adult, and no single adults allowed. - We would have at least one member of staff for every 15- 25 children plus an extra in screen for the duration of the show. - Legal requirement, and just common sense, and nearly every show one of our staff would 'remind' parents that they can not leave their child with us and then go off shopping or to the coffee shop down the street....EVERY one of them thought there was nothing wrong leaving their own children with strangers for an hour or so.... Some people should never be allowed to be parents....
Hello my wonderful, beautiful, Fluff and friends! That last story is heartbreaking, especially since OPs husband sounds like a bad partner, gaslighting and then attacking her. OP really should consider at least couple's counseling, as her husband is clearly displaying emotionally abusive behaviors!
Some years ago, I made jams to sell at fetes, fairs and markets. There was a woman who ran a restaurant in our local area. She saw my product. I bought the glass jars and made my own labels which were really colourful. She looked at my jams and vinegars and told me that she would like me to make the jams and she would put her own labels on the jars and sell them in her restaurant. I was absolutely gob smacked. I knew she would pay me a pittance and put exorbitant prices on them. But I wasn't interested and told her so. She looked a little crestfallen but didn't say anything. When I read about the Karen in story 2, I immediately thought of this. Incredible.
The first story was really heartbreaking to hear, that somebody would actually feel like they were forced to give up their source of income (and worry about how they were going to feed themselves and pay bills) because of having to deal with people like that. Where was her manager at the time? Allowing anyone (customer or not) to berate your employees like that is entirely unacceptable. I like to think that if I were a customer in that shop at the time, I actually would have spoken up and taken the karen to task for her completely unacceptable behavior. Employees often feel like their hands are tied in this situation, but as customers, we have much much more freedom to do the right thing when necessary. Please, everyone, do not just stand by and watch when you see somebody being abused around you (and this entirely was abuse). In this sort of situation, you have more power than they do, and you need to actually make use of it to stand up to people like this. What's the worst that can happen? They start yelling at you instead? Good, because unlike the employee, you really don't have to care about anything they say, and can tell them exactly what they deserve to hear! Maybe worst case, you get also kicked out of the coffee shop for causing a scene? Oh darn. After all, it's not like you need to be there to make a living, and there's probably another one you can go to on the next street corner anyway...
A grown woman purposely destroyed family heirlooms multiple times. Op caught her in the act, and when she's called out she acts like the victim. Glad the inlaws are on ops side. Not sure what is up with the husband letting this shit slide, might be a pattern if she's the baby of the family.
Last story. I would find out how much the plates would cost, then adjust the price for inflation. Then, I would go to a custon shop with one of the plates that is still intact and ask how much to recreate them. Take the higher of the two prices, double them up, then take your SIL to small claims court to get her to pay for the replacements. Hold her accountable.
Last Story - The last story hit home with me. My mom has a box of Rose colored crystal glasses that belonged to my great grandmother Rose (yes that really was her name) that are beautiful and irreplaceable. My mom says she’ll give them to me one day and if anyone did what the SIL did… let’s just say heads will roll.
Story 2 Karen: You seem to be selling a lot of stuff, we should be partners so you can give me half of your profits. OP: No. Do I look like a moron? Karen: YOU'RE NOTHING WITHOUT ME! YOU CAN'T SELL ANYTHING WITHOUT MY HELP! GIVE ME YOUR PROFITS NOW! OP: Security!
Ad-hoc child-minding: My eldest niece, aged about 8 or 9 (now 64!), was standing near the toilets at a railway station when a lady rushed up, thrust a baby into her arms, and dashed into the Ladies'. A few minutes later she came out (rather less hurriedly), retrieved the baby with profuse thanks, and went on her way, leaving my niece slightly bewildered at having been briefly entrusted with the son of a very well-known actress. Times have changed.
Before anyone heaps insults towards OP5's husband, OP said in a comment that he has apologised to her and said he took his sister's side at first because he didn't want to pin the blame on her. The husband's family also has noticed the SiL's behaviour has changed when she met that boyfriend.
Final Story - OP is ABSOLUTELY NTA! Her husband and BIL are TA and SIL is an Atomic AH. SIL purposely destroyed dishes that OP inherited from her grandmother and OP caught and exposed her doing it. OP shouldn’t have to apologize to her because she didn’t do anything wrong, SIL deserved to be embarrassed in front of her family. If it were possible I would file a report on her for destruction of property, regardless of what OP’s husband and BIL say.
For the craft fair story, OP should have told the woman that she does need a business partner. Then tell her the woman need to front $500k for half the business. She will get half of the profits for the investment. That should make her scream and hopefully storm off.
Story 1: I used to be one of the receptionists at my work and our boss once got an email saying the person on the phone “sounded sad” 😑 you try being chipper all the time in that position
whenever my nieces or nephews fight over a toy. I tell them this: "Kid A remember its Kid B's toy and Kid B remember to share" meaning respect the fact the toy is not yours and the person doesnt have to share......but its nice to share
Story: 3 no way Id let this waste of oxygen anomaly get away with such vile crap once she tries this again with the wrong person she'll be a pool of tomato soup...
I used to work at Sears in the woman's clothing department. I was standing inside the door of the fitting room going through things on the return rack because I was in the process of putting things back on the floor. This woman comes up with a kid that looked about a year old in a stroller. She parked the stroller outside the fitting room and grabbed her things to try on and went in a room and closed the door. She didn't say a word to me so I was thinking was she expecting me to watch her kid? I thought about it for a few seconds and decided that I'm being paid to work for the store, not babysit. So I took an armful of clothes and walked away. I don't know what happened after that because she was gone when I came back. To this day though whenever I remember the incident, I still wonder what she was thinking.
I have a theory about that last story, but no way to tell if this is what's going on. Maybe SIL really wanted those plates, but OP got them instead. What if her breaking the dishes is her way of saying "If I can't have have them no one will?". And she could be lying about them not being her style.
What Zombinosh said. It’s more likely SIL doesn’t like that someone stole her brother and decided destroying heirloom china was “an eye for an eye”. That BS about someone else’s china not being her style sounds like my sister tbh. She didn’t want the family Bible (which is an heirloom with birth, marriage, and death records going back to the 1700s as well as the Bible written in both 1700s and 1800s English with gold leaf and color illustrations)… Nope. It didn’t match her decor.
Some people really need that 'No!' spray bottle applied to them... That left behind baby announcement should've been followed by a, "Nevermind! The baby's been collected."
Story 2 - I hate it when people say that spouses can’t be business partners because of their gender. I hope that Karen was permanently banned from future festivals.
Story 4: I would look Karen in the eye and tell her "Ma'am, I flatly refuse to take any responsibility for your child. I deny any and all liability from you leaving him at the cut counter. If you do not take this child back and care for him YOURSELF, I will ask you to leave immediately to protect the liability interests of this store. Please engage a daycare if you don't want to take your child shopping with you in the future, but do NOT bring him here and try to foist him off on our staff. We will NOT give him care if you try. We will simply call Mall Security."
If you want to see what a Karen's idea of "sharing" looks like, watch the SpongeBob episode, "Yours, Mine and Mine", wherein _Patrick_ is the Karen in question. And yes, it's from that notorious season 6-7 period.
Story 4: as a mom, being outed as a bad mom IN FRONT OF other moms is epic level shaming! There is nothing as embarrassing as mom guilt. Op was playing 8D chess and that loudspeaker announcement was a massive "checkmate".
My grandmother punished us kids and her own kids by serving on paper plates every holiday. She had a whole cabinet of plates, bowls and silverware. Apparently we didnt deserve to eat off them bc we didn’t know how to treat them. My sister broke a bowl by throwing it into the sink. My aunt got made at my uncle and threw a plate at him. The dishes were piled high and no one was willing to clean them. We had no electronic dishwasher and I offered but kids weren’t allowed to handle her plates anymore after what my sister did more than once. So according to her, paper plates and plastic silverware only. Cups were also plastic or styrofoam and as we cleaned up, she dusted off the china cabinet that housed the dishes we use to use. 😂
OP, in the last story, should never apologize for embarrassing the SIL--she deserved it--and the husband should've backed up OP! Since SIL broke priceless heirloom dishes, she should pay OP some amount for what she did. I hope OP kept the pieces! A friend of mine gave me a unique, beautiful set of dishes. During a move, one of the plates broke. I used a thin line of super glue on the three pieces, put them together and used something to hold them in place while they dried thoroughly. I've used the plate for over 7 years now. You'd have to look very hard to see the cracks!
Story 4: Your “boss,” has zero say in whether you can call the police or not. And if he wants to go down that rabbit hole, he could be arrested for aiding child abandonment.
story 4, at the end, you ask rhetorically that this behaviour begs for somebody to just take the kid. sometimes parents are overwhelmed and hate their kids. and suddenly, that becomes a solution. what would happen, if somebody just takes the kid away. kid gone, problem solved. usually, CPS or equivalent agencies are very interested in stopping that. and they have tools.
That last story. Op should demand an apology and replacement of he plate or she should press charges. That was very childish of her to break plates just because she didn't like them. After the second time my plates got broken I would've stopped using them when they came over.
Last story: the SIL would never be allowed back in my house and if my spouse wouldn’t back me up, he would either be sleeping on the couch or out the door.
Last story, I bet SIL is even growing more hysterical because her parents are siding with op and not her overgrown toddler butt. The husband NEEDS to get with the program and see that even his parents completely agree with op.
*I'll tell you what the employee at the fabric counter should have done: She should have quietly gotten another employee to take the child to customer service as an abandoned child. Either the mother would hear the eventual announcement by customer service once the manager is advised, or she comes back before that happens and doesn't see her child where she left it. When she asks the employee, then the gal tells her "How would I know you were assuming I'd babysit, ma'am? You apparently just walked off, and I have a job to do that I'm paid to do. Somebody seems to have taken your child. You better go to customer service and talk to the manager. I have customers to attend to and I'm sorry, but that isn't my job here, ma'am. Good luck." Let's see how panicked she is then.*
Story 5: The plates can usually be found -- but they won't be cheap. I would go through and find every piece that the SIL broke and send her an invoice for the replacement costs (including my time spent on the search -- at my billable rate 😉)...
I'm so glad I don't have to deal with people like this. I was in the drive thru at rallys and the lady was mad and upset. I asked if she was alright and it was a customer. I made her smile really big and told her to have a better day.
Almost 30 years ago my 2 yr old would take off in the grocery store to customer service to visit "my" that she absolutely adored. Luckily the staff there loved her too. Small towns are great.
If i was the op in the last story, i would have asked SIL to send me a picture of a plate that was "her style". Id then have personalised paper plates printed and give her her dinner on one.
I have my late mother's bone china that she ordered from England more than 50 years ago. The pattern is no longer even available. If someone broke a plate on accident, I would be heartbroken but understanding. If someone broke one on purpose because they "weren't her style," I would not only be furious, that person would be eating off of paper plates from then on!!! OP is definitely NOT the arsehole here and she should NOT apologize, either!!
Story 3: Something would be getting ripped out of that lady's scalp for stealing from a disabled kid. Story 5: NTA. SIL needs to be made to pay as a lesson. However much it costs to find every single piece in antique/vintage auctions.
Story 3: what surprises me most is there is no mention of how poor Lily reacted to her toy being stolen. In my experience toys like that are extremely important to them and their reaction to having it stolen would be 10 times worse for them than for anyone else.
Story 4: Never leave your kids with a stranger. Employees in store can have a criminal records, employees in daycare need a background check before they can work with kids. Heck even volunteers working with children and teenagers at our church need a background check before they can be volunteers.
My best friend's daughter threw a piece of my wedding China on the floor when I didn't give her dessert first when she was 16, 10 years later and she's still eating off of children's dinner ware and her mother tells her she hasn't shown she's mature enough yet to get even a big kid plate. All she has to do is apologize but she won't because "it's ugly anyway"
It would have been funny if when the karen left her toddler on the counter, the clerk just said in a stoner voice to the kid "hey, you thirsty little guy?" and hand them an entire can of mountain dew. Have fun with that karen.
Story 3: Just because Lily is disabled and can't walk or talk doesn't mean she can't feel things. Even people with disabilities have feelings, too. Story 5: SIL got what she deserved. OP is definitely NTA. The SIL, boyfriend, and OP's husband should apologize. I agree with the first update; buying new plates just can't replace the sentimental value of inherited plates.
That lady stealing from Lily and then saying she didn't steal from anyone is absolutely disgusting. I can't believe anybody could think that way, as if though disabled people aren't even alive compared to non-disabled folks. Sickening.
Story 4: 15:54-16:33 Going on the PA system was genius!! Story 5: Apologize to the woman that purposely broke OP's plates? Oh, heck no! In fact SHE should apologize to OP and tell OP WHY she broke them in the first place. In front of the entire family.
plates - so the op is supposed to apologize for what, not letting the SIL disrespect her? For showing everyone how rude and childish the SIL was behaving? The SIL is being a petty bully who is crying because she got in trouble for her own actions. And the only way out is to blame the OP for “embarrassing” her.
I would tell my husband, ok, call your sister, tell her to bring over something that your dead grandmother gave to her, and then I'll be happy to apologize for embarrassing her.
Story 3: OMG This makes me so angry!!! 😡😡😡 Karen: Well, she is not all there anyway! Ugh!!! I don’t like people like this Karen of a mother 😡 As someone with autism/disabled myself, I wouldn’t take THAT TOO LIGHTLY!!!
People used to say stuff like that to me as a kid! I felt all the rage, pain, and offense a "normal" person would, but I couldn't get the dots to connect in my brain to respond or even react outwardly other than making myself smaller. I think the only reason I can even speak now is because I got sick of Karens like her and having nobody to defend me. I taught myself how to speak just to shut them up!
Broken plates: Anyone who would intentionally break your plates doesn’t deserve a moment of your time let alone an apology. Your husband obviously values his sister over you and he should apologize or eat off paper plates until he does.
If you “can’t” call the cops on a customer that abandons a child tell the “parent” you will walk the kid outside and leave it there if they walk any further away from you. Again, deny it when asked. But I doubt any “parent” would chance it if you had the right tone of voice and look in your face. “Yep, I’ll even shove it towards the parking lot! Don’t. Leave.”
I still think the SIL should not only pay for the plates but replace them! They’ll be some in some antique ad that will have them severely over priced. And if she wants she can by more so she’ll have some to keep breaking!
Story 4: My twins are 8 months old. Now, they aren't in their tantrum phase yet, but I cannot even FATHOM handing them to a stranger! I get paranoid about when I go to grocery pickup and the worker is loading things into my car - I have to keep my hand on the lock so that as soon as my trunk is closed, the lock is engaged and my kids are safe! I was raised on Stranger Danger, I *do not understand* these people who would leave their kids with a rando!
Story 4: I would have just called over the PA system with the baby on my hip, "Would the person who took the baby off the cutting counter, please return the baby?" Before y'all try to bite my head off, yes I am a mother and yes I know exactly what it will do. They had to do this for me once, only to find out I was seizing on the floor exactly where I said I'd be at. Supposedly they said over the PA to cancel the last one and if there was anybody in the store who knew about epilepsy to go to such and such aisle while we wait on paramedics. This was the first and the last time I ever went into any place with just my baby and me. I was just picking out some surpise birthday gifts for my little one. He started to talk at a young age, and I didn't want the surprise to be ruined..........I think the hospital visit and stay were enough of a ruined mood as ever. Recently got my service dog, and my baby boy is now almost 10 years old.
Story 1: These places desparately need a zero tolerance policy towards abusive customers. Story 3: Stealing from a child is bad enough but Karen took it to a whole new level. Story 4: Karen deserved to be embarrassed. Shop staff are NOT babysitters. Story 5: OP is NTA. She called SIL out for deliberately smashing her crockery and SIL acted like a spoilt child who didn't get her own way. Technically she could be charged with destruction of property. OP's hubby needs to grow a pair/man up/get a backbone. How can he condone his sister's behaviour?
Story 5: Not only was the keepsake value of the plates irreplaceable, but more than likely the plates themselves were by now irreplaceable. I broke one of my mother's china plates that she got from her grandmother, and the factory could no longer reproduce that pattern.
