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Rabbis Debate: Does God Need Us? Manis Friedman vs Yossi Paltiel 

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@JamesCleary202
@JamesCleary202 6 месяцев назад
Never thought I’d see these two giants talking to each other.
@mikebee6786
@mikebee6786 6 месяцев назад
Baruch Hashem Shabbat Shalom Shavua tov
@MyPositivethinking
@MyPositivethinking 6 месяцев назад
Both Rabbis are making valid points, Chassidus is multidimensional. Emunah is the bedrock of our Yiddishkeit while Chabad teaches us to think and think and question. A tantalising paradox
@notavailable1961
@notavailable1961 6 месяцев назад
Beautiful to see both together. The people want achdus. BH
@sghoorichile
@sghoorichile 4 месяца назад
This is the result of believing a man is pretty much God, Manis just dumbed down God. Such a shame because he speaks so great about other subjects.
@mikebee6786
@mikebee6786 6 месяцев назад
The bodies asking the questions, although iti viewes as separateness overall the Same Self in all to encourage. Our bodies a companion or a neighborly best friend to be understood and answered. Yet silence is the greater portion we tend to allow the least bit of its sound to attend to. Even a small talk and acknowledgment keeps its tail wagging.😊 After all it does so well for Hashem. 🎉
@MehWhatever99
@MehWhatever99 6 месяцев назад
Avraham reasoned his way to finding Hashem. Making sense is central to Jewish faith. Blind faith is for the Christian.
@IE-lc4ni
@IE-lc4ni 6 месяцев назад
I think Rabbi Friedman brought up some valid points. It even seems like r paltiel didn't have what to argue with on the last point, that chasidus wants to know this. I spoke with a litvisher rav and he said the ramchal talks about this idea. Does rabbi yaron reuven know all of ramchal and chabad teachings to say he is an apikorus.
@naomicorban8703
@naomicorban8703 6 месяцев назад
Greatest respect for Rabbi Manis Friedman.The Rebbe also had these opposers to his groundbreaking ideas. AM ISRAEL CHAI 🇮🇱💙🇮🇱 Love from Sydney Australia Toda rabba Rabbi Friedman
@Beised
@Beised 6 месяцев назад
How dare you compare the Gadol Hador to this Santa Claus nonsense philosopher
@naomicorban8703
@naomicorban8703 6 месяцев назад
@user770EP My Rabbi loves respects Manis Friedman.He is from Brooklyn&was a student of the Rebbe.
@naomicorban8703
@naomicorban8703 6 месяцев назад
@user770EP You quite clearly have no debating skills whatsoever...as soon as you said "How dare you"to the opponent,you would look silly&disqualify yourself.Your way is no respectful way to conduct yourself towards another Jew,just because they have another opinion.I will defend Rabbi Friedman always,as I will with all that I dearly respect,now if you don't like that,it's your problem,I pity your self righteous misplaced clumsy indignation.Name calling is low minded.
@naomicorban8703
@naomicorban8703 6 месяцев назад
@@Beised My Rabbi was sent to Australia by the Rebbe(truth)as previously commented he was his student.
@Beised
@Beised 6 месяцев назад
@@naomicorban8703 I don’t care what your rabbi thinks. Manis Friedman was put under Cherem by Lubavitchers in his hometown for defending two child molesters and refusing to apologize
@TheMalka770
@TheMalka770 6 месяцев назад
Ive always been uncomfotrtable w the anthropomorphic statement GD "needs" us. Very confusing to the layman. means something deeper.unclear
@sghoorichile
@sghoorichile 4 месяца назад
Gosh manis digging the hole deeper
@IE-lc4ni
@IE-lc4ni 6 месяцев назад
Did you remove my comment?
@ysiegel
@ysiegel 5 месяцев назад
I cannot for the life of me understand how a mashpia in TT can possibly have the gall to ask whether a question (and an aspect of avodas Hashem at that) is either a human question or a chassidus question...?! Chassidus lends itself to human thought. If it is not practical in human terms, it's more Kabbala than Chassidus. And if it's Kabbala, then the question begs - who cares??!! And I doubt it if Rabbi Paltiel would ever have asked "who cares" regarding a concept in Kabbala which actually bears no revealed significance to our avodas Hashem, because, well it's Kabbala!
@Sadedits1888
@Sadedits1888 6 месяцев назад
The Ashkenazim watching the video and understanding all the Yiddish words thrown in there: 😊❤ The Sephardim watching : ☹️☹️☹️
@uriel7203
@uriel7203 5 месяцев назад
Most of the "yiddish" you are mentioning is an Ashkenazic rendition of Hebrew and Aramaic.
@Sadedits1888
@Sadedits1888 4 месяца назад
@@uriel7203 thanks for letting me know that mate ❤️❤️
@5thdhealth
@5thdhealth 6 месяцев назад
What comes first the chicken or the egg? The chicken comes before and after the egg, and neither can exist without the other.
@infiniti28160
@infiniti28160 5 месяцев назад
The cockerals cries fills the skies but never pierces the heavens.
@bell1095
@bell1095 6 месяцев назад
13:40 If the questioner does not see as sense in t‘fila, a spiritual „hug“ will neither help him nor satisfy his selfproudness and his uncommensurable seek for gratifications. He might take in the seder haTfilot a chance for his day by day personal recalibration to the divine truth in a world filled up with lies and errors, and learn, that midas haChessed is provided in return.
@infiniti28160
@infiniti28160 5 месяцев назад
Genesis 49:22-26 beware of the spirit of Absalom. Genesis 37:2-11
@infiniti28160
@infiniti28160 5 месяцев назад
Hebrews 8
@mauricioantoniodesouzasamu9534
@mauricioantoniodesouzasamu9534 6 месяцев назад
THE ETERNAL IS ONE! AND YOUR WAY IS ONE! Dear Rabbis, I have seen some Jewish speakers, when questioned by religious people from other religions, say, perhaps out of respect, that just as there are several ways to get to Rome, there are several ways to get to the abode of the Eternal. But, considering that all human beings are equal before the Eternal, there will be no two ways! Or 3 how the 3 religions that call themselves monotheistic want to live in Jerusalem. There are no IDOLATRIC monotheists! That looks like a wolf dressed in sheep's clothing! What we should do is not up to me to tell the Jewish Wise Men on You-Tub channels, but asking doesn't do any harm. So ask our brothers who say they belong to other religions whether they, after all, believe or not in the Professions of the Prophets of the Holy Scriptures If they say YES! So tell them to read: - THE PROFESSY OF ZEHARIÁ 8.23 Let them then respond and we will listen to them. After all, we all want to have a place in the only Ark that will take us to the home of the Almighty. Shalom Ysrael
@bell1095
@bell1095 6 месяцев назад
The question debunks the one who put it, as bare of any emuna and of narcistic overselfesteem in gaava and chuzpa. In fact he does not deserve an answer at all, but „hakhe et shinav“. There is no answer, that will ever satisfy him, because he denies jirat haShem. Neither the Rabbis nor the audience should waste further time or attention.
@uriel7203
@uriel7203 5 месяцев назад
This question was posed by the Rabbis themselves. It is thought provoking and needs to be answered like everything else in Torah. Just as we need to understand impractical halachos, we need to understand, as much as possible, Hashem.
@bell1095
@bell1095 5 месяцев назад
@@uriel7203 the answer gives haNavi Micha in 6,7.
@uriel7203
@uriel7203 5 месяцев назад
@@bell1095 I didn't look up the source, but it seems to me that the answer you are citing is to a questioner who, as you mentioned, will never be satisfied. A critic for the sake of being a critic. There is a good example of this of Richard Dawkins saying that if Hashem spoke to him directly, he would attribute it to a hallucination.
@bell1095
@bell1095 5 месяцев назад
@@uriel7203 The source of the answer is in the Haggada for Pessach, 4 Sons, one is the Rosche.
@mendeljacobson6451
@mendeljacobson6451 6 месяцев назад
i am here today because manis was mikarev my bubby shlita to yidishkiet so she had my parents who had me instead of intermarege!! plus other intermarries manis stopt i wander if any of the weerdows below can say the same your just noise manis sees clear others are blind so why should darkness have opinions about light! reb manis is a shomer torah umitzva ready for moshiach now
@user-qs7gx7rp7m
@user-qs7gx7rp7m 6 месяцев назад
Fools - of course God needs us. We are his eyes, his ears, his feeling and his memory. We are part of God at both heart & anus level . . . Maybe ?
@cinesanti7
@cinesanti7 6 месяцев назад
You’re the fool
@mendeljacobson6451
@mendeljacobson6451 6 месяцев назад
look how perfect hashem is that he handles such stupidity coments that Torah is kefirah!!!
@mendeljacobson6451
@mendeljacobson6451 6 месяцев назад
likuutei sichos chelek hey hosufos of noach around sif 17 says clearlly that hashem is dependent on a yid הויה נצב עליו and so says the medrash before arguing please look up the scorce if not ישפוט ה' ביני וביניך!!
@Gaddy.Z
@Gaddy.Z 6 месяцев назад
Haha ''say clearly'' , You slander directly the Rambam in his psak and all mesorat and Maatikey hashemua of Klall israel from all generations with the non-sense of your ''lichora'' Contemporain Rebbe zatsal . One thousand rebbe like yours will not budge or deviate one Kutso shel youd of the Holyness of Hashem and the Torah. You are heartless , to even say this, in the name of your Rebbe zatsal.שקר שנאתי ואתעבה ותורתך אהבתי. Let alone , that you beleive Rabbi Menahem Sheneerson zatsal is alive and the Mashiach, so you are the Apikoros !
@mendeljacobson6451
@mendeljacobson6451 6 месяцев назад
yasherkoach reb manis shlit"a kul habrachos and so to rav palteal shlita
@mosherothmistrovsky2290
@mosherothmistrovsky2290 2 месяца назад
Friedman is wrong
@Gaddy.Z
@Gaddy.Z 6 месяцев назад
Apikorsut in it's splendor
@mendeljacobson6451
@mendeljacobson6451 6 месяцев назад
it takes one to see one
@Gaddy.Z
@Gaddy.Z 6 месяцев назад
Say this to the Rambam.@@mendeljacobson6451
@carminefragione4710
@carminefragione4710 6 месяцев назад
God spoke to create the light, God called the light "Good". God did not call God "Good". God called what God created to be Good. The Darkness was already from eternity, thus God must be the Darkness, something not created and has no need to change. In his abode of Darkness, God needs nothing. There is as an eternal matter, something there that does not move or change, , so it needs nothing, it is already "Nothing". What then was created needs more creation, needs something of the creation and relates to creation and cannot relate to God, if God is actually as an eternal matter of nothing. The Act of God that God spoke , what comes to be Good, as a light created, apart from the eternal darkness, that is what needs something more, . So Jesus is GOOD while God is needing nothing and is nothing, an eternal steady state matter that needs not move or change, but Jesus is of the Light, so mankind needs to worship Jesus as a man needs to act according to the Speech or Word of God, to relate to a need to act based on something spoken to be, rather than what needs not be spoken , which is the Darkness in which God rests forever without any need. If you only need God, you get eternal darkness, that is God, but if you need to add to the light, that is something God created by His Word, and thus Jesus is the Word of God, a Light to the Gentiles, and he needs you. Any other answer is a lie.
@JohnSmith-bw8xv
@JohnSmith-bw8xv 6 месяцев назад
Apparently these two hate each other's guts
@IE-lc4ni
@IE-lc4ni 6 месяцев назад
Although rabbi Paltiel looks unhappy rabbi friedman seems very calm and happy with him. Very impressed how he handled it.
@joekay5380
@joekay5380 6 месяцев назад
Sorry manis freedman doesn't mean much to frum jews
@mendeljacobson6451
@mendeljacobson6451 6 месяцев назад
and you doo??
@joekay5380
@joekay5380 6 месяцев назад
@@mendeljacobson6451 i dont speak shtusim on internet
@Beised
@Beised 6 месяцев назад
Manis Friedman is a mamash apikores!
@mweiss505
@mweiss505 6 месяцев назад
Nonsense.
@Beised
@Beised 6 месяцев назад
@@mweiss505 He has been denounced by Gedolei Yisroel for his nonsense kifrah and Lubavitchers have separated from him for his defense of two child molesters
@yosef7394
@yosef7394 6 месяцев назад
Explain
@Beised
@Beised 6 месяцев назад
@@yosef7394 Rav Yarron Reuven has gone in depth on this
@SPNDS1980
@SPNDS1980 6 месяцев назад
You have a photo of the Rebbe as your profile and yet you slander another Jew. If you knew anything about the Rebbe you would only be looking for the good in everyone you meet or see. Moreover, you follow what a Rav says who uses his social presence to slandering every type of Jew he disagrees with?
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