Riding since 1956 with some racing and track days. Bought a MT09 and it may be the most rounded out bike I have ever ridden. It willingly does anything you ask it to do. Fast, slow and cruise. Long live the MT09.
@@Bullpit2 I am only 78 and love riding as much as ever. I currently have 3 bikes a Harley FLSTN 2016, 4 stroke 500cc single Yamaha dirt bike and my MT09 Yamaha. I managed to survive 2 combat tours in Vietnam and campaigned a XR 750 flat tracker for 4 seasons. I am not as tough as I once was but am fortunate enough health wise to still ride. I can still scare women but now it’s because they are worried about me falling.
OC: Have a brand new MT07 that I love and fulfills all my needs but dangggg. The MT09 be looking real spicy and I want one after watching all of your videos on it
@@Spartan3021 I started on 21 MT03. Still have it. Almost 1 year later, Im ready to upgrade. Dont regret it one bit. Its fun! And yes Im financing a 5 yr payment. Only now that I have experience, I can upgrade to whatever I want (not interested in liter bikes). Looking at SV650 or MT09. I think the MT09 is gonna win, but now I can ride with confidence. I'll be able to sell my MT03 real fast and I wont take that much of a hit at all since I got a good deal otd. Thats the key. This MT09 looks like a true forever bike but I don't recommend this as a new rider bro.
I've own an 09 Street Triple and it was good around town also. I just bought an MT07 and am perfectly happy with it. It has all the power that I want. My Street Triple was so addictive that I wouldn't put it up without hitting triple digits. It was a blast but it wasn't near as comfortable as the MT07 is and I just don't need all that performance to be happy. They say everything gets old and so does having more power then you will use very much.
Loving my 21 Mt09. Bike is a blast all around. Non SP model and it handles like a champ. Really didn’t need the suspension upgrade at the moment for shredding backroads and commuting on the east coast. In the spring I’ll run it a handful of times at the track just because and see how it does. Just finally broke 1,000 miles and got to open her up. I am not disappointed. 🙌🏼
Now I feel understood. 🤗 I ride a 2018 MT09 and have to go through a big city to work every day and the MT09 is a great city bike, although overpowered. 😊 The ergonomics, weight, gear box and even the steering angle(on the 2018 model), it’s all better for city riding than on the 650 inline 4, that I had before.
I’ve been thinking about buying a bike for about 7 years now, and I think I’m ready to pull the trigger on it. Would you recommend the MT-09 and riding in mode 4 for a bit? Or would you recommend I go for the MT-07? I’ve been riding dirt bikes for most my life, so I think I’m pretty good on two wheels, though I know street will be a whole different thing of its own.
@@clipdev I’m honestly leaning towards MT-07. 1.) because I’m a noob to street bikes 2.) cheaper 3.) seems more “maneuverable.” But, I’ve watched a couple highway reviews of the MT-07 and most of them say if you’re going to spend most of your time on a highway, you may want to go MT-09. Personally, commuting to and from work and what not is probably 80% highway, 20% streets. Also, my buddies do rides up to northern AZ often and they all have bigger bikes and say the same, that when on freeways or country roads, it’s nice to have the extra power, especially when AZ is hot as hell and you don’t want your bike being in high RPM for a long time. That was a bit of a rant, and you didn’t sign up for answering my questions. So don’t feel the need to read all that or respond if you don’t want to. Stay safe man!
@@MrMcReeties for regular highway use I think some wind protection would be very useful, as you find it on a Tracer. The MT09 is super comfortable and flickable(more then a 600cc inline 4) and already quite a beast, if you open the throttle, imho. For me it’s a bike where I have to accelerate consciously, not just full throttle and see what happens. It can be pretty wild. and I’m having it for almost 3 years and >20k km. On the other hand, these 900cc bikes are actually a sweet spot in long terms, never really too much and never too little power. It is definitely manageable if one uses his brain. But do you plan in long terms with your first street bike? I also like the playfulness of a 600cc bike, it helped me growing into street bike riding. And personally I was considering to downgrade again a couple of times, because they’re fun. Would be perfect to have 3 bikes actually. And for a beginner I would recommend 500-700cc.
@@clipdev I would prefer a long term bike, I’ve gone through selling and buying many dirt bikes. And at this point, I kinda just wanna get one street bike and chill with it for quite awhile. I’ve rode a few bikes my friends have (GSXR750, and KTM Duke 890) and I much preferred the Dukes riding position. Hence the reason I’m lookin at the MT series bikes. I think I’m leaning towards the MT-07 then at this point, I don’t want to kill myself on an 09. I would rather go 09 for the quick shift, more power, and I could just chill on mode 4 for awhile. People say that mode 4 basically takes it down to that of the 07. But maybe the lighter smaller 07 would be a bit easier to learn on. Also, it seems basically impossible to find a 2022 MT-09 anywhere near me, even in neighboring states. So the 07 seems more acquirable as well. So all signs kind of show to go 07, then if I want to upgrade, I’ll wait a year or so and go 09 when they’re more available as well. Edit: about the wind stuff, I’d probably grab the sport windshield. I know it probably only helps like 30% but my commute to work is only about 20 min or so, so I don’t think I’d get too fatigued. Also coming from a dirt bike, especially in the dunes, I’m kinda used to the wind tossing me around and what not. I just vastly prefer the riding position, look, and basically everything of the MT bikes
I really enjoy your reviews of the MT09sp. I put a deposit on one Saturday and will be picking it up Tuesday. Super excited. Your reviews on this bike greatly influenced my decision.
OC- You’ve got some of the most comprehensive reviews I’ve found on YT. Great content my bro. Definitely a big factor in helping me make buying decisions.
As a life long Yamaha guy and proud owner of a 2014 FZ-09, I can tell you they have really raised their game in the transmission department. Yamaha trannies used to have a couple extra neutrals here and there, and I’m glad they’ve finally gotten it together.
Nice review on the MT-09. This tipped me over to actually buying one. Pick it up tomorrow and then a 300k ride home. Not bought for the long trips so nice to know it works well for commuting 👍
OC: Agreed. I usually assume high spec bikes / sportbikes are uncomfortable and require work to tame all the power in a city setting. But watching this review of the MT09 and some of 1290 Super Duke actually changed my view (hoping to test ride both soon)
OC: I figure anything modern with an upright seating position and medium-high/high seat is going to be good in the city. Your visibility is automatically better than a supersport or cruiser and other drivers will more like see your helmet above the car roof line ahead of you.
OC: I have this bike & I think it’s the perfect bike for NYC and probably any city. Riding comfortably or aggressive this bike makes It so easy. New Toce exhaust is currently being crafted on my bike now & that’ll make It so much better with that extra noise.
OC. I think the rider position plays a lot into city riding. Being upright and in a more natural and noticeable position has got to help. Not only your visibilty as a rider, but the ability for car drivers to notice you at more of an upright window or roof line height. I ride my gsxr everywhere and by far in traffic is my least favorite. Like you said, the shoulder checks and looking over your shoulder in that supersport position are not really comfortable. Keep up the good work guys!
OC: you I been a long time subscriber been watch since you had an R6 and then it got stolen then the supermoto. You are one of the reason I want ti get a MT-07 and I go to your videos to get reviews on bikes. I’ve been wanting to motovlog since I graduated from high school in 09 and been watching a lot of you vloggers out there. But you have one of the best channels.
Can always count on you man! been almost 5 years since I've been active. One search for the bike I'm looking for, and like magic here you are with a review! Appreciate ya
OC: Great motorcycle. I feel the same thing with my Suzuki GSX-S 750 with the turn radius at slow speeds. I never got my hands on a MT09 but did ride a Yamaha MT07 and I found the MTO7 would handle better than my GSX-S 750.
OC: this will be my first higher powered bike, I have been riding for 1.5 years until i got hit head on while at a stop sign a month ago while on my shadow. Im now riding my girlfriends "old" 2018 cb300f until the sp arrives (on a list) and i think it might ruin my expectations of what high powered bikes are like but i am ok with this. I want something i can commute on year around, but still take to a track and have fun with on the highway. Windscreen will be a must but I am excited.
I placed a deposit on one of these November of 2020 at my local dealer and they just now received one. I got tired of the BS and waiting so I got a ZH2; no regrets.
Mt09 is the perfect city bike imo, light and nimble, power to play when you get the opportunity, up right = good view around yourself and more comfortable than a super moto. I keep mine in d mode 2 typically and ive never felt like the bike was over powered or anything
My take on high spec bikes being bad in the city hinges on 2 main attributes: 1) Body position ~ the more weight on the wrists the poorer the city friendliness, 2) The peakier the powerband/gutless low & midrange the more unpleasant for urban duty.
OC: I appreciate this review and the others you have done on this bike. It gave me the information I needed to make an informed purchase on one of these.
OC: Aren’t naked bikes made for low/mid range cornering (carving). Which automatically makes them good city bikes. I ride a Z800. Heavy bike (230ish kg), and I still have fun in the city and traffic. All the low end torque comes out to play. You don’t even need to ring it out that hard.
They don’t see you because you’re always on the position 3; you are always on the right side of your lane and this is an issue regarding driver’s visibility. Speed safe.
An MT10 is too big too powerful for the streets. As a MT09 owner, I sometimes feels like I’m looking for trouble 😈. MT07 is a good one but lacks of power at the mid range. Maybe a MT08 ? 🙄☝🏾
I have a 2016 FZ-09. I had the same shifting feeling. 1st & 2nd gear is short, ith a lot of power. The fix was switching the front gear, adding one tooth. That calmed this down a little and can still wheelie if I want. Also, sometimes I shift 1 to 3, or start at 2. I skip gears sometimes, every other gear, when on more open roads and just on a casual cruise.
OC: I feel like naked bikes, regardless of performance level, can be good in almost any city setting. Sport bikes, meh. They can do it, but definitely not the best place. Same with big touring/crusing bikes. Again, they can do it, but you might find yourself getting annoyed trying to navigate tight city streets. If you're going to ride in the city almost exclusively, then I think a 300-700cc naked or neo retro bike would be best.
OC: I have a DR650 uncorked an optimized. Deciding between mt07 and mt09 SP to add to the stable. I have that bike you can go WOT 95% of the time, so I'm thinking MT-09 SP. Tough decision.
OC: I'd imagine a R6 would be terrible for city riding, because the power comes in at the upper end of the RPM range. A bigger bike can get away with having a lower RPM range. As they say: There is no replacement for displacement. I ordered a 2021 MT-09 SP August 3rd 2021, I was told that they had some on back order, and that they'd call me when it comes in. I called back August 4th 2022 - A YEAR LATER, they called their Yamaha rep, was told it would ship in 3 days and take up to 11 to get here. Well, what showed up was a 2022. The bike is $100 more, 'destination' charge was $45 more, and then they tacked on an additional $375 'Freight' charge....so, me not harassing them week after week, cost me $520. I've recently got my license, got it insured today...and am going to pick it up either today or tomorrow. Most expensive toy ever!
OC: I really wish the mt07 had the 4 rider modes that the 9 has. I had many years off from riding so for me the mt09 is a hard no. But if the mt07 had the modes I might get one. Instead I plan on getting the mt03. Just seems odd to me with Yamaha having such a big gap in displacement between that mt03 and the mt07 that they didn’t put the rider modes on the 7. I think that would have allowed a lot more returning riders like me to start back comfortably on the 7.
makes more sense having modes on a higher HP bike. so you can actually feel the differences and they make more sense. lower HP makes less sense and just adds cost.
My BIGGEST complaint with my Ninja 400 is I CANNOT for the life of me ever find neutral until stopped. I know they design it that way. But damn is it frustrating when I wanna just coast in neutral. I know people say "leave it in gear in case you need to rip on the throttle and outrun a velociraptor that dropped from the sky" but really, when do you need to get up and go so quick? I LOVE the MT-07 transmission. You can feel each gear and neutral is easy. I'm glad Chase mentions this because my Ninja is getting very annoying doing te left foot right foot hokey pokey dance to stop and then hit neutral.
OC: Always felt a higher spec bike in the city seemed a waste. Especially when I had a 959 Panigale. But riding it around was bad because of the heat. Now having a new MT07 I really want the MT09 SP. Soon as my MT07 becomes my gf's MT07 I'm getting the MT09 SP that day.
OC: Do you reckon the MT09 would be better than MT07 for commuting? I have a brand new 2021 MT07 and have been great so far. Fuel economy is great for the engine size (comparable to my previous MT03). The torque is great to pull you out of sticky situations. Only thing lacking was the mediocre suspension and lack of quickshifter.
OC- Got my "drivers test?" the 22nd so don't know how well or bad high end bikes performe in a city/town setting. But I do think a Honda Grom as an example, would be much easier to handle in the city, while the MT09-SP would be better in mountain roads etc. Btw. I'm also buying an MT09-SP when I get my licence sooo, it's awesome to hear that it's a good city bike as well! :)
OC: I have an older 15', modified with a penske double clicker shock and a racetech set up front. Did change out for the woodcraft clip ons as well. I really want to find one of these sp's and see how much better it is than mine, might be time for a new bike
This Bike is Good I saw one of this in our road here in Philippines it Feels like it's just a Small Bike, this Bike is so lightweight and it can filter like small bikes.
OC I've had a 2022 MT-09 for about 5 months and constantly used it in the city (I live in Brazil btw). It was comfortable, with lots of power, definetely funny. Only con for the city might be the heat in some states and the wider handlebars make it harder to filter through traffic in areas with straighter lanes. Well, right now I'm waiting for my new Kawasaki ZX-6R (first 2022 tho) to be delivered in about 2 weeks, and guess what? Yep, I'll put it into city traffic as well 'cause I love sportbikes and I'm crazy
OC: I'm waiting to buy this bike in a few months for the new season next year, UK winters are just awful riding conditions. Wondering if you know any info on if the MT09 SP 2022 (the new one with the silver tank) is just a cosmetic paint update or if they changed anything else? This bike seems to be such a good all round bike for comfort and fun. Keep up the great content guys!
Help? I'm about to do my first track day in my 2023 MT-09-SP and I'm trying to figure out if I can scroll back through all of the lap times that I might log in a 10 lap session , before shutting down the bike , or if I have to take note of those times while I'm riding and before I log the next one. The owners manual does not go into detail and I can't seem to figure out how to scroll back through times but rather can only see the prior lap while on the current lap. This will be distracting while riding if I want to know what my actual times are. Surely there must be a temporary memory of all of the the laps in a session? Help?
OC: Watching you stop at a red light with all the cars in front of you, and not going between them to be first in line, it just looks weird to me. Ain't it allowed in the US?
Looking to buy new bike: either this bike (MT-09 SP) or the MT-10. I used to ride a R1M around town, and it did alright... But a Naked bike does much better. OC
OC: Okay Chase - I've watched all your MT-09 SP videos - gives us the honest dig! KTM 890R or the MT-09 SP as an only bike? Which would you choose after the extensive experience?
Having made a number of months with a 2022 standard MT09 under most conditions I can think of. Made 24 laps on a 890R on a very good friend’s bike. My thoughts are both bikes are as much fun as you can have with your clothes on. My friend is happy with his 890R but has had a few small problems with it. All were covered by warranty so far. Oil leak, coolant leak and a clutch replacement in the first 3100 miles. I found it a sweet ride but found engine sound and some vibration objectionable. My MT09 and five others I know well have been trouble free to this point. Two 2021 models, two 2022 models and one 2022 SP model. Mileages range from 2,100 to 8,900 and most have been on the track at least once. From this knowledge and price plus dealer network for KTM, I would go with the MT09 and did. I feel some will go with the KTM because it seems more exotic or upscale than a simple old Yamaha. I loved both on the track and the lap numbers put them in a situation where the rider is the only difference. The MT09 has another advantage in that the aftermarket really has anything you can name for the MT09. It is not nearly as good for the KTM at this time.
OC. I'm selling my 2018 BMW R1200 GS and am now seriously thinking of putting my name on a list of people waiting to get an MT-09 SP. I was considering the Triumph Street Triple RS, but it's way more expensive. Do you think it is worth the extra cost? Not a real fan of the instrumentation on the MT-09, wish it looked more like the R1. Do you find it hard to see in the day time?
OC: In a Metro area for a 50+ year old, Would you feel it would be worth the money to go from a MT07 to a MT09sp (for a person whom has not yet gotten his MT07 - still waiting)
OC I'm a sucker for the xsr line instead, but besides a little bit of ergos I feel like they're the same bike. Anything I'm missing, or is that a pretty true statement?
Hi specs? I thought that it went with the design if it's a track toy it must be bad on the streets I think that there are some low spec sports bikes that are terrible on the street exception given to the heat desipation and that is what surprised me here.
Depends on how you ride really. A mt07 would be a good upgrade for the city/commuting. Plenty more power but not a crazy jump. I started on a mt07 3 years ago, r3's feel like toys in comparison. You can power wheelie in second and you'll save a good amount of money on the bike and insurance.
