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Race & Inequality Across the Pond with Inaya Folarin Iman 

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@ColemanHughesOfficial
@ColemanHughesOfficial Год назад
Thanks for watching my latest episode. Let me know your thoughts and opinions down below in a comment. If you like my content and want to support me, consider becoming a paying member of the Coleman Unfiltered Community here --> bit.ly/3B1GAlS
@mounteverestoftheobvious1182
I'm supporting you by saying what you're doing isn't working and never will. You could be the catalyst to turn the tide, and chances are -- you'll never even know it: Subject: If evidence claimed as components to build a nuclear bomb isn't worthy of consideration, what is? For 20 years, I’ve been practically spit on for following principles those same people promote on a daily basis. I wrote and produced a documentary to address such behavior, but in the last 18 months - I’ve seen savagery beyond anything that inspired it. The smorgasbord of sub-cultures has created another dimension of delusion in America - hardening minds, not broadening them. I’ve been in the trenches battling hermetically sealed minds in a way no other has. We’re not talkin’ run-of-the-mill politics here - I deal in matters of mathematical certainty (of world-altering consequence, no less). Those numbers don’t care about politics and neither do I - I take the trail to the truth no matter where it leads. To claim that Iraq WMD wasn’t a lie should be like saying we didn’t land on the moon. In denying that reality, half the country helped create a culture where denying reality is now the norm. How do we make people realize they’ve been lied to? You have to knock down one small pillar that’s easier to reach - and I’ve got the perfect pillar. There’s a prominent figure who fabricated this fantasyland where he follows the facts wherever they go - never mind he peddled partisan hackery on the biggest and most costly lie in modern history. And lo and behold, he has a habit of toeing the party line. Anyone with an atom of objectivity could see what’s plain as day. But in a culture in bondage to baggage and baseless beliefs - painfully obvious lies become calcified as fact. Add in a cult-like following that is unlike anything I’ve ever seen - and it’s nearly impossible to put a pinprick through the envelope of intransigence encasing their brains. But that’s because they can contain the “conversation.” Get this story in the right hands and the jig is up. The force field of fallacy that shields this man is almost impenetrable - but not all people who deny reality will forever do so in the face of the irrefutable. Some highly intelligent influencers at the helm of these echo chambers - blindly believe in this liar because he’s baked into their belief system. But if just one of these people has the integrity to look at the truth about their hero and the legacy of self-delusion he’s leaving behind - it’s over. These communities are so interconnected in their fawning over this fraud, once word gets out - his disciples will go out of their minds defending the indefensible. It’ll spread like wildfire. And once you’ve boxed these influencers in by their own standards - it won’t be about protecting their “National Treasure” anymore, it’ll be about protecting their own reputations. Purveyors of virtue differ from purveyors of poppycock. The former has a conscience, the latter does not. Get me to one person of conscience in these communities - and we can have the kind of conversation this country’s never had. The problems that plague America are interrelated - and anything short of addressing that is pure folly. If you want to start solving problems instead of endlessly talking about them, we need to take a hard look at how we got here. My doc was designed as a tool for honest debate. Now? It’s intended for a larger framework to clear the clutter that’s crippled this country. My plan calls for fiercely independent thinkers (to be fully realized), but right now - one will do. Since I’m not sure a link will go through: Please visit One Voice Became Two dot life to find Do You Want to Solve Problems or Protest About Them? Thank you for your time. Sincerely, Richard W. Memmer
@BS-vx8dg
@BS-vx8dg Год назад
Coleman, I love your work, but I'm worried about you. You're 26, and it's time to settle down, young man. It looks to me like your UK trip has brought you together with your perfect match. So here's the deal; I'll become a paying member if you and Inaya decide to make it official, just to help pay for the wedding.
@MrKingkz
@MrKingkz Год назад
Hi there am from the uk and from a west Indian back ground I think what a lot of this young girl was saying was pretty spot on a lot of us just became working class and 90% of carrabians have white people in there immediate family 1980s Maggies britain did a lot of harm to the working class and i don't think we have recovered from that but I think the problems with carrabians over here are the same problem that the working class white british have over here the upwards mobility got drained out of us but I don't think it's a race thing I see just as much poor whites getting beat by police as I do black too be honest
@HarryFlashmanVC
@HarryFlashmanVC Год назад
God, I'm 30 years older than you guys, but it's extremely encouraging to see you youngsters fighting back against those who seek to divide us!
@keyboarddancers7751
@keyboarddancers7751 Год назад
I'm equally older than these younger people and I'm equally enthused by their nuanced stance on these issues.
@Yoganflogan
@Yoganflogan Год назад
Harry I feel the same it makes my heart glad
@SvenErik_Lindstrom3
@SvenErik_Lindstrom3 Год назад
Her observation that the decolonizers are currently "orientalising" precollonial Africa is pure magic! Spot on! Sadly, these kinds of contradiction mean nothing to them.
@ricodelavega4511
@ricodelavega4511 Год назад
decolonialism came out of a Latin American context, just as post colonialism came out of the context of India.
@jennaphage
@jennaphage Год назад
Can you explain what she meant by “orientalizing?” Does it just mean glamorizing?
@daffyduck4674
@daffyduck4674 Год назад
@@jennaphage No, but glamourising can be part of it. You could also describe it as ‘othering’. It’s central to whole idea of post colonial theory. In the way Said uses it, it’s about presenting Africa as alien to the West, as homogeneous, as non rational. That can be framed as a negative, as Africa is the ‘dark continent’, barbaric etc, but it can also be framed as arguing that pre colonial Africa was some kind of utopia only ruined by the West. It’s always been an irony that post colonial theorists picture of the non West usually indulges the very tropes Said accused the West of indulging when framing the east.
@daffyduck4674
@daffyduck4674 Год назад
It’s not just Africa, if you talked to people In almost any post colonial society, Canada, New Zealand, Australia etc the same game is being played. I think it’s ultimately counterproductive to their own aims as the majority who’ve not drunk the kool aid know that as a picture of any human society it’s a nonsense.
@jennaphage
@jennaphage Год назад
@@daffyduck4674 thank you so much. I Hadn’t heard that in American English before now but it’s just as likely that I’m just ignorant of the term.
@SvenErik_Lindstrom3
@SvenErik_Lindstrom3 Год назад
A smashing conversation! Never heard of Inaya Folarin before, but I will definitely start following her work.
@christopherdew2355
@christopherdew2355 Год назад
I am a 72 y/o white Englishman who grew up in apartheid South Africa. This experience made me think about issues from quite a young age. I follow both of you on various platforms - have read Thomas Sowell, Jason Riley; listened to John Mc Whorter and others, and agree with all your perspectives on race and effective community building and the like. My family, on the other hand - infected by the UK education system - tell me I'm a far right bigot!
@marwar819
@marwar819 Год назад
Very, very sad that your family labels you like that. Seems they lack the ability hold nuances.
@serpentines6356
@serpentines6356 Год назад
@@marwar819 Yes, unfortunately, people just jump on "ideological bandwagons" and repeat slogans towards others without really thinking much. If those insults come from strangers no big deal. If they come from family I can only imagine know that would be quite hurtful, if you are trying to simply dialogue.
@serpentines6356
@serpentines6356 Год назад
I highly recommend watching Ayaan Hirsi Ali's, "The Market for Victimhood", on RU-vid. I think it's a good, overall talk on the subject. If you could manage to get a family member to watch that alone or with you, that would be a start.
@christopherdew2355
@christopherdew2355 Год назад
@@serpentines6356 Thank you for your kind reply! I have both listened to and read Ayaan's work and admire her experienced and cogently thought out position. She happens to be married to an historian whose work I like, Niall Ferguson! Best wishes, C
@WaaDoku
@WaaDoku Год назад
You put into words the thoughts that are burning in my soul but can't express. Thank you both for this! You two are - in the most literal sense of the word - progressive (e.g. you're putting your foot down and create and engage in conversations across and beyond the political spectrum). An inspiration for us all.
@just_another32
@just_another32 Год назад
Inaya is great! Thanks for representing us Brits in the fight against wokeness Inaya!
@bobloblaw3415
@bobloblaw3415 Год назад
Keep fighting alongside Inaya! Your synopsis video of CRT vs Liberalism is quite good too. The stakes couldn't be higher. Either we defend a universalist view of individual human sovereignty, dignity, and worth, or we slide back to a view that essentializes race, collectivizes guilt, pits group against group, and asserts a contradiction as its fundamental premises: "I must understand you. I cannot understand you."
@just_another32
@just_another32 Год назад
@@bobloblaw3415 Thank you, Bob. That video was ahead of the curve at the time, but I keep meaning to remove it as it seems dated now. However, I do now have a brand new Substack you might be interested in (it's called Just another point of view). It is mainly relevant to a UK audience though, I think. Have a good weekend and keep fighting the good fight too.
@patricklenz8898
@patricklenz8898 Год назад
And thanks for pushing for Bexit!
@just_another32
@just_another32 Год назад
@@patricklenz8898 Shhh!
@patricklenz8898
@patricklenz8898 Год назад
@@just_another32 ?
@sarahd2607
@sarahd2607 Год назад
Inaya and The Equiano Project inspired me to write a set of lesson plans on Oloudah Equiano which I gave to my colleagues. The humanities teacher ran with it.
@BaydhaboWarrior
@BaydhaboWarrior Год назад
I'm a teacher. Share it!
@UREMODEL
@UREMODEL Год назад
One of the smartest conversations I've heard in a long time. The fact that I'm saying that (taking nothing away from you or your guest) is very sad. Please keep going.... both of you... best to you!
@mounteverestoftheobvious1182
No, what's sad is that you all think repeatedly rehashing the same issues is gonna magically make a dent (never mind everything's gotten worse). They're not solving problems --- they're serving a market. You wanna start solving problems -- it's gonna take time & effort to think things through in ways this nation never has -- and here's your chance. I'm not here for chatter -- so if you're not interested in hearing me out in full on the story referenced below, we have nothing to discuss and I wish you well: **************************** Subject: If evidence claimed as components to build a nuclear bomb isn't worthy of consideration, what is? For 20 years, I’ve been practically spit on for following principles those same people promote on a daily basis. I wrote and produced a documentary to address such behavior, but in the last 18 months - I’ve seen savagery beyond anything that inspired it. The smorgasbord of sub-cultures has created another dimension of delusion in America - hardening minds, not broadening them. I’ve been in the trenches battling hermetically sealed minds in a way no other has. We’re not talkin’ run-of-the-mill politics here - I deal in matters of mathematical certainty (of world-altering consequence, no less). Those numbers don’t care about politics and neither do I - I take the trail to the truth no matter where it leads. To claim that Iraq WMD wasn’t a lie should be like saying we didn’t land on the moon. In denying that reality, half the country helped create a culture where denying reality is now the norm. How do we make people realize they’ve been lied to? You have to knock down one small pillar that’s easier to reach - and I’ve got the perfect pillar. There’s a prominent figure who fabricated this fantasyland where he follows the facts wherever they go - never mind he peddled partisan hackery on the biggest and most costly lie in modern history. And lo and behold, he has a habit of toeing the party line. Anyone with an atom of objectivity could see what’s plain as day. But in a culture in bondage to baggage and baseless beliefs - painfully obvious lies become calcified as fact. Add in a cult-like following that is unlike anything I’ve ever seen - and it’s nearly impossible to put a pinprick through the envelope of intransigence encasing their brains. But that’s because they can contain the “conversation.” Get this story in the right hands and the jig is up. The force field of fallacy that shields this man is almost impenetrable - but not all people who deny reality will forever do so in the face of the irrefutable. Some highly intelligent influencers at the helm of these echo chambers - blindly believe in this liar because he’s baked into their belief system. But if just one of these people has the integrity to look at the truth about their hero and the legacy of self-delusion he’s leaving behind - it’s over. These communities are so interconnected in their fawning over this fraud, once word gets out - his disciples will go out of their minds defending the indefensible. It’ll spread like wildfire. And once you’ve boxed these influencers in by their own standards - it won’t be about protecting their “National Treasure” anymore, it’ll be about protecting their own reputations. Purveyors of virtue differ from purveyors of poppycock. The former has a conscience, the latter does not. Get me to one person of conscience in these communities - and we can have the kind of conversation this country’s never had. The problems that plague America are interrelated - and anything short of addressing that is pure folly. If you want to start solving problems instead of endlessly talking about them, we need to take a hard look at how we got here. My doc was designed as a tool for honest debate. Now? It’s intended for a larger framework to clear the clutter that’s crippled this country. My plan calls for fiercely independent thinkers (to be fully realized), but right now - one will do. Since I’m not sure a link will go through: Please visit One Voice Became Two dot life to find Do You Want to Solve Problems or Protest About Them? Thank you for your time. Sincerely, Richard W. Memmer
@Reb4star
@Reb4star Год назад
Great convo, BUT I have to add my Nigerian parents came over in the early 1960s with many other Nigerians at that time - they wanted to pursue an education. There were also conflicts between some of the Caribbean and African migrant population at that time.
@joelharvey
@joelharvey Год назад
26:00 Regarding the term “gammon” - this is not merely a derogatory term for brexit voters or British people akin to Trump supporters or deplorables, it’s actually a racist and classist term reserved for middle aged, working class white men that happen to be slightly to the right of Stalin. Nobody but white men are referred to as gammons, just like nobody but white women are referred to as Karen’s.
@russellsharpe288
@russellsharpe288 Год назад
That's correct. The reference is to the sort of complexion supposed to be characteristic of portly middle-aged white men who are exercised about the excesses and idiocies of progressive-cum-identitarian ideology. They are supposed to get rather red in the face as a consequence of increased blood pressure, and this is imagined to resemble the colour of that sort of smoked ham known (at least in British English) as 'gammon'. As well as being classist and racist, it is probably also sizeist.
@serpentines6356
@serpentines6356 Год назад
@@russellsharpe288 Thanks for that explanation. Now, that word makes some sense. "Sizeist". Ha! I wonder how many more "ists" people will think of? 😁
@mataform
@mataform Год назад
Don’t forget when a lot of the Caribbean people came , Britain was pretty broken and exhausted after the second world war. There was work which they wanted and Britain needed but poverty and rationing was still in place and the people were tired, angry and resentful. Exposure to other races for those who had never stepped outside their towns never mind their country , along with lack of education was also a problem. However the British and Churchill, it has to be said, were pretty much shocked by the segregation in the US army. He demanded that it shouldn’t be practised here but the US wouldn’t have it.
@JeffTheGent
@JeffTheGent Год назад
1:18:17 - 👏🏽 Coleman, you are *so* spot-on with your analysis of _White Fragility_ and its condescending attitude toward blacks. 💯❗I totally agree that it casts whites as mature adults capable of controlling their emotions and temperament, and blacks as petulant, easily offended children. ️It might have good intentions, but there comes a time when people must realize what road is paved with those. I wonder if Robin DiAngelo has had an honest discussion or debate with anyone who shares our POV. Or has she been too … wait for it … _fragile_ to engage in one? 🤔😄
@Bizagro
@Bizagro Год назад
Honesty would never pay her as well, so she’d have no incentive.
@JeffTheGent
@JeffTheGent Год назад
@@Bizagro So true, Dude!
@subplantant
@subplantant Год назад
Can't believe they didn't talk about the exquisite irony of the fact that "gammon" is a slur based on and directly referencing skin colour!
@deal2live
@deal2live Год назад
Many Nigerians where here in the late 50’s and early 60’s, they are contemporaries of the Caribbean influx. They still managed to out ran the gravity of racism.
@stevejhkhfda
@stevejhkhfda Год назад
I wish I could have made it to TTCG - all the speakers are excellent commentators and would have been fantastic to see John, Glenn and Coleman in the UK.
@ChevyS10LSUK
@ChevyS10LSUK Год назад
This type of debate fills me with hope and confidence about the future of both the UK and USA. That 2 younger individuals can raise key points and have a discussion around different key narratives and deliver a great video.
@oldhollywoodbriar
@oldhollywoodbriar Год назад
We need our friends with black privilege to stand up and help their white brothers and sisters survive modern racism.
@andrewfox368
@andrewfox368 Год назад
I don’t like taking up the whole “privilege” language. Don’t take up the mindset, even in reverse - that’s how we got into this mess in the first place
@marypoppins0169
@marypoppins0169 Год назад
Wow 🤗 what a fantastic ,informative and open conversation you've had. I learnt things/ different perspectives that I hadn't thought about before and really found this interesting and enjoyable to watch. You guys have given me some hope for a better future, one which we look at someone's character not the colour of someone's skin.Inaya is sooo right we have so many important topics to discuss, we all have a role to play in it and that's what makes life soooo very special and exciting. ❤️
@anyakirby2014
@anyakirby2014 Год назад
What interesting and powerful conversation ! Being Jewish, I constantly hear new « ways » of finding antisemitism from my fellows British Jews. Like « The non Jewish actors are allowed to play Jewish parts! » and seeing it as example of antisemitism. I think of this claim as nonsensical and immediately confront them, saying that by such ridiculous over exaggerated claims they put the trust of non-Jewish people on the very existence of antisemitism in UK in danger. As they’d naturally start thinking that the demand for antisemitism amongst British Jewry is not matched by supply. And new sources of antisemitism have to be invented. I think it’s wonderful that non-Jewish actors play Jewish parts. It’s far more uniting, educational and doesn’t create unnecessary neuroticism in film industry.
@michaelweber5702
@michaelweber5702 Год назад
Very good Inaya and Coleman . Your intelligent conversation is rewarding and encouraging ...
@chantellegiardina5098
@chantellegiardina5098 Год назад
This was an excellent conversation. Top quality
@theohopkins1903
@theohopkins1903 Год назад
Lady Hussy is 83. (I'm 81). When Lady Hussey was a lass - say sixty years ago - _any_ black person had 'come from somewhere', as prior to 1955 or so, there were virtually _no_ black people in the UK, as immigration hadn't started, so there were no black people who were born in the UK, so any black person, back in the 50's and 60's 'had come from somewhere'.
@winstonscott4195
@winstonscott4195 Год назад
Lady Hussey is the widow of Marmaduke Hussey who chairman of the board of Governors of the BBC. She probably more aware of the peoples who populated Nigeria than Ngozi Fulani nee Marlene Headley who appropriated two West African names for herself. Ngozi which is popular Igbo name and Fulani the name of Moslem ethnic group that is Nigeria. Moslems and Christians often clash. I know of no genuine African who has their name the name of their ethnic group. No Mr Zulu, Ashanti or Yoruba. Regular African wearing their traditional wear do not wear dreadlocks. It is small wonder why on seeing some being so exotically dressed Lady Hussey asked her she comes from. Marlene Headley wore an outfit to make a statement and took umbrage when some asked her questions about it. Marlene certainly did not know of the ongoing conflict between Muslims and Christians in Nigeria. But she is actually of Barbadian origin.
@littlecatfeet9064
@littlecatfeet9064 Год назад
@@winstonscott4195 yes! I’ve never met a Mr or Mrs Igbo or Maasai. It’s like a Mr Celt.
@barnabast8793
@barnabast8793 Год назад
Such an intelligent and compassionate conversation 👏🏽
@jocelynburrell445
@jocelynburrell445 Год назад
Italian,German and Dutch The oldest French Translation was done by M,Du Ryer Paris,1647. A Russian version appeared at St,Petersburg in 1776.
@Houston123ABC
@Houston123ABC Год назад
You're wearing a Texas shirt in the UK - a great conversation starter!
@andrewh7868
@andrewh7868 Год назад
Thanks for an excellent interview, as always. One thing I noticed: In the pop-over banner that appears from time to time (Click the link above...), "subscribe" is misspelled as "subcribe". It jumps out on a video that is otherwise so meticulous and precise (and awesome).
@swcordovaf
@swcordovaf Год назад
Fantastic. When did young people become so brilliant and articulate?
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast Год назад
Er ... about 30,000 years ago, at the latest, I would say.
@swcordovaf
@swcordovaf Год назад
@@DieFlabbergast I haven’t met any at this level. Rare indeed
@juicedgoose
@juicedgoose Год назад
They've always been around. RU-vid just makes it easier to find them.
@serpentines6356
@serpentines6356 Год назад
@@swcordovaf There are some very interesting videos of High School, and College age students from the 50's, and 60's debating "race" on RU-vid. They are all very articulate, even if you might be agreeing with one side. They debated quite well.
@luckystarship2275
@luckystarship2275 Год назад
You both give me hope for the future and I feel happier after watching this conversation. Btw, the dictionary definition of gammon is 'ham that has been cured or smoked like bacon'.
@gazlives
@gazlives Год назад
the slur is because it referred to white out of shape men. she can't really be a gammon.
@johnsmith-xv5gy
@johnsmith-xv5gy Год назад
Been waiting for ages for you to speak with Inaya. Many thanks.
@MackerelCat
@MackerelCat Год назад
Inaya Folarin Iman is pretty great.
@bircottage
@bircottage Год назад
Super....bright, highly intelligent opinions, what a great conversation! More please.....
@Nirvana7734
@Nirvana7734 Год назад
Fantastic human beings, both of you.
@davidlamb7524
@davidlamb7524 Год назад
The disparity between Caribbean and African black achievement in the UK has multiple causes and is very complex. A lot of those causes were discussed in this video. What I didn't hear taken into account is that Caribbeans are largely descendents of slaves. Africans generally not only are not descendents of slaves but may also be descendents of slave owners and traders. Further it is not cheap to get to UK from Africa so those who arrive are generally at least comfortably well off and educated. Those who came on the Windrush etc however ambitious or qualified were wanted for working-class jobs in transport or the NHS and answered ads for those jobs. There were shortages after WW2. It was a foot on the bottom rung at least. They earned more money in the UK than they could back home. Many Africans came to study at universities or go straight into professions. They are less represented among working class British blacks. The only real comparison is skin colours (which are different anyway). Well yes. They both experience some racism. Who handles it best ? You decide !
@z.c.w.7332
@z.c.w.7332 Год назад
Great discussion. Lots of freat points and insight.
@bryanb30
@bryanb30 Год назад
32:54 Conservative note 🗒️ Don’t confuse African American with those of us who identify as American first. Add a visual descriptive if needed Colored 😂, black, café negro, noire. In America 🇺🇸 the category black metaphorically is a bag of M&M’s. Those that want to be “Black” are seemingly the farthest from the hue. Black is a state of mind🤔 or frequently a statement of the nonobvious!
@mataform
@mataform Год назад
Inaya is just brilliant.
@duppyshuman
@duppyshuman Год назад
Have you considered we Black Americans are Westerners, with our own identity, not Africans? Compare our accomplishments, thinking and more here vs there from slavery to the present? No hatred to Africans meant. She's adding greatly to my knowledge base btw. Much love.
@serpentines6356
@serpentines6356 Год назад
Thank you for mentioning this. I never liked the hyphenated terms like "African-Americans", "Irish-Americans", etc. Maybe only as a descriptor if needed once in awhile. As one young black stated to me one time. "I was born in the U.S. I have never been to Africa, I am not "African- American".
@duppyshuman
@duppyshuman Год назад
@@serpentines6356 thumbs up.
@luyolo679
@luyolo679 Год назад
Decolonizing is more of Demonizing the West. At my university in SA🇿🇦we talk of such in creating the curriculum.(Decolonising) It is really a bad doctrine or ideal for both the West and Africa, first of all the doctrine implies that Africans are victims, and White people are oppressors. It also suggests that meritocracy is bad and calls for D-I-E to replace it, meaning you're not employed bcz you have the skill but bcz you're black.(That's an example)
@alexgibson2871
@alexgibson2871 Год назад
If we really pushed them on it with de-democratise, de(insert accepted western institution, say rule of law or other) that’s when they retreat to say defund the police doesn’t mean that it means fund mental health responders. Language games even they don’t want to carry to conclusion.
@davinderrehal9391
@davinderrehal9391 Год назад
Listened all the way through. Excellent conversation.
@realMaverickBuckley
@realMaverickBuckley Год назад
She's great!
@willisverynice
@willisverynice Год назад
I’m saying “yeah” out loud a lot lol
@metgirl5429
@metgirl5429 Год назад
Fabulous conversations 🕊🤍
@bryanb30
@bryanb30 Год назад
54:18 Discrimination is a normal process for most individuals but false equality kind of deludes this seemingly necessary survival mechanism. Using known individual characteristics (Discrimination 1a); predicting unknown individual characteristics from observed group characteristics (Discrimination 1b); and arbitrary discrimination that ignores the individual characteristics of the decision-subject altogether (Discrimination 2)
@harperlee6383
@harperlee6383 Год назад
I follow both of you on Twitter! I'm looking forward to this episode.
@Adam-Builds-It
@Adam-Builds-It Год назад
How can we watch a video of the conference?
@GoldenCobraDJ
@GoldenCobraDJ Год назад
This is an awesome discussion
@joelharvey
@joelharvey Год назад
36:00 the prosperity gap between Jamaicans in the U.K. and the US can largely be explained by immigration selection bias. The Jamaicans that came to the U.K. to help rebuild the country after the war were invited en masse, whereas the Jamaicans who migrated to America had to go through much more stringent immigration controls to acquire citizenship in America. In other words, the Jamaicans that went to the U.K. were a much more cross sectional sample of Jamaica, and the ones that went to the US were largely an upwardly biased sample ie the cream of the Jamaican crop.
@Astarkiller
@Astarkiller Год назад
That’s how it should be not everyone can come to the US we need stricter immigration standards honestly.
@Astarkiller
@Astarkiller Год назад
And these Jamaican disparities in the UK are an example of why we need stricter immigration laws we should have even higher quality of outstanding Jamaican success in the US.
@MrKingkz
@MrKingkz Год назад
This is very true when my grandad came over here to Britain his passport was classed as a British passport it was very easy for us to come over but in the 50s and 60s alot of us work I think maggys Britain did a lot to brake the spirit of the working class also the fact that 90% have white people in there immediate family we just became 100% working class and the working class has a problem with education I think this is a big part of the problem
@lindamaxey3827
@lindamaxey3827 Год назад
Excellent conversation 😊
@mlowry
@mlowry Год назад
Hook ‘em horns, Coleman! 🐂🤠⭐️
@jocelynburrell445
@jocelynburrell445 Год назад
The first English Quran was Alexander Ross s Translation of Du Ryer s French version 1649-1688 Sale s well-known work first appeared in 1734
@jocelynburrell445
@jocelynburrell445 Год назад
The Rev.J.M. Roswell. Was printed in 1861. Professor Palmer, of Cambridge, Translated the Quran in 1880 p 523 Sunnah literally mean a way of rule manner of acting or Mode of life, and Hadith a saying conveyed to Men Quran S-18 -6,39 23
@ColbyARussell
@ColbyARussell Год назад
@24:41 the word "subscribe" is misspelled "subcribe" in the chyron.
@j.hmarvelous2231
@j.hmarvelous2231 Год назад
She’s awesome and her mind 😍😍🙏🏾😍😍
@griffinsdad9820
@griffinsdad9820 Год назад
When do we get to start focusing on the people who are intentionally misleading and baiting us to come after each other?
@awags07
@awags07 Год назад
Great convo! Where did you get that globe lamp?
@maryhudson4280
@maryhudson4280 Год назад
Thanks!
@elkpaz560
@elkpaz560 Год назад
The big difference between the UK and the USA currently is that the Indians (indigenous) group is still present in significant numbers in the UK and have been all but obliterated in the US. The indigenous see their heritage being trashed and a double standard applied where they are at a clear disadvantage in the public sphere including the corporate one.
@Lee_yourboylee
@Lee_yourboylee Год назад
1:16:46 - 1:21:16 articulates my thinking on this in a way that I haven't been able to. We have to suck everything up and accept regular scoldings because we have white privilege and are expected to rise above all of the other privileges we don't have (which for some reason are all subordinate to white privilege). If we don't do this we are mocked and denigrated by the elite and the virtue signallers who get off on their 'we-have-to-be-the-adult-in-the-room' posturing, which is a hard standard to live up to. A standard, as Coleman says, that it is easier for the elite, with their many privileges, to live up to.
@jojolina7
@jojolina7 Год назад
Fascinating conversation
@Any1SL
@Any1SL Год назад
In the new testament the chapter Philemon with Paul where a slave runs away from his master. Both the slave and the master are believers. Paul continously tries to reason with the master that he is no longer a slave but a brother in Christ.
@Areflection4
@Areflection4 Год назад
I love the way the guest glosses over the successes of the African community in UK on the backs of civil rights won by Afro- Caribbean by saying 'we are where we are!'. This is disrespectful and untruthful.
@juliocorrea2552
@juliocorrea2552 Год назад
Great discussion
@mikegray8776
@mikegray8776 Год назад
Great conversation - thank you both! I notice that all of the Americans at the conference were more warmly dressed than usual? I’m guessing that maybe Cambridge in January was a little bracing??
@larsglade3304
@larsglade3304 Год назад
Tak!
@vianabdullah2837
@vianabdullah2837 Год назад
Outside America, the term 'classical liberal' does imply an adherence to a more laissez-faire form of economics. Like a more moderate form of what Americans might call 'libertarian'.
@niccoarcadia4179
@niccoarcadia4179 Год назад
I always considered 'classical Liberal' to be 'anything goes' (within reason and logic) like libertarian-left
@Jianju69
@Jianju69 Год назад
Great stuff.
@mathieuguillet4036
@mathieuguillet4036 Год назад
Love this young lady already!
@junsu21
@junsu21 10 месяцев назад
I’ve written this type of comment on Coleman’s videos before but the fantasy of colorblindness is not only unscientific, it is also insulting to people’s different cultures, languages, experiences, etc. you can not be racist and see color at the same time. Being aware, sensitive, or appreciate of someone’s unique background doesn’t mean that you are engaging in racializing narratives. The fact that Coleman, and the people he likes to talk to, think like this is sooo problematic. Culture, diversity and ethnic background matter in our world because it adds to the rich tapestry of the human experience. For crying out loud, we live in a world where people can talk about the differences in personality between dog breeds and you expect humans to not respect and appreciate the beautiful differences between us by being “color blind”?! That type of thinking makes no sense and it’s not gaining traction in the world because it’s not honest to people’s lived experiences in every part of the globe. I haven’t even touched on how race interacts with power and to that go ask a Palestinian or an Afghan what they think of your supposition
@user-wr4yl7tx3w
@user-wr4yl7tx3w Год назад
One thing that could have been covered was about BBC and their bias.
@junsu21
@junsu21 10 месяцев назад
Why does the difference between black Nigerian immigrants to the Uk and Caribbeans to the UK decades before surprise Coleman? We have similar dynamics in the USA. Many of the Africans and East Asians who come to the USA now and in recent decades come from highly educated or wealthy families and often done to study in the USA. Likewise with the Nigerians in the UK. Should it surprise us that those folk do better than others who came earlier and from much poorer backgrounds?
@streglof
@streglof Год назад
Why does Coleman's body look so small in this video?
@adliberate
@adliberate Год назад
A true Brit for sure.
@beetlegin
@beetlegin Год назад
Inaya is such an eloquent speaker. I'm white by the way, so I guess that comment is a micro-aggression.
@jocelynburrell445
@jocelynburrell445 Год назад
Dress as a reminder for Not some all of Humanity except or reject
@jocelynburrell445
@jocelynburrell445 Год назад
Peace many have had these issues A Englishman,Robert of Retina ,and a German, Herman of Dalmatia attempted to translated a Latin Version of the Quran requested by Peter,Abbot of the Monastery of Clugny,A D.1143 remained hidden nearly 400years, till it was published at Basie, 1543,by Theodore Bibliander
@ivandate9972
@ivandate9972 Год назад
9:34 ever since the first time a nation was build, people starts campaigning for their benefits.
@armands3863
@armands3863 Год назад
Everytime I watch these vids, I'm baffled by the hate these people have for other races and other cultures. They live in our countries but their mindset is really negative toward any yt person, theres a lot of hate. They walk among us while being the enemy.
@jocelynburrell445
@jocelynburrell445 Год назад
Teach the way of dealing with Humanity way men ought to walk 4-26
@invisiblespeedrc
@invisiblespeedrc Год назад
Finally can put into words my issue with these Coleman Hughes types. While they don't usually say anything outright wrong, or even bad most of the time, the framing is so off. 1. Focus on powerless fringe elements of "woke" or "left", instead of focusing on actual issues. For example making a big deal out of Robin DeAngelo. (no one cares). 2. Align themselves with people who actually are bigoted, racist, further right than them. This is one point which I feel they have to know they are doing. 3. Discredit, minimise or ignore issues, the "all lives matter" to BLM, the "I don't see race, I'm colourblind" to racism. The problem with people like this is that they aren't honest enough to steelman the argument of those they oppose, and acknowlege the people they are aligning themselves with. The Charles Murrays of this world.
@invisiblespeedrc
@invisiblespeedrc Год назад
47:30 is a perfect example of this, creating strawmen they can then burn down. No one believes what Coleman says here. No one intelligent whose opinion matters in the world.
@CPAClass2010
@CPAClass2010 Год назад
Go listen to Charles Murray on Glenn Loury’s show, you get plenty of steel man arguments from Glenn, plus Murray’s books are always about “what” and not “why/how”, the backlash is always “so what are you tryna REALLY say”
@johnsmith-xv5gy
@johnsmith-xv5gy Год назад
@ JQRacingTV, Greetings from planet Earth. Your connection appears to be faulty. As the information you are receiving appears to be from another video. Try re-tuning your Satellite Dish to 812.36MHz and align it with the following planet Earth co-ordinates 18h 47m 20.0408s, −26° 05′ 23.128
@invisiblespeedrc
@invisiblespeedrc Год назад
@@johnsmith-xv5gy no i even gave an example
@simonyricools
@simonyricools Год назад
It seems to me a lot of ppl care about DiAngelo in the US.
@Astarkiller
@Astarkiller Год назад
U know how to get over race and inequality…do better to help our communities…raise our kids and stop blaming current disparities on past disparities especially wen u compare it to race as being a main contributor in 2023…get real.
@AndyJarman
@AndyJarman Год назад
I wanted to hear from the potted plant. I could tell it wanted to interject at certain moments but was just ignored.
@mspoints4fre123
@mspoints4fre123 Год назад
Imagine a black person's ancestor who was actually oppressed, looking at them today BEGGING to find oppression anywhere they can.
@jocelynburrell445
@jocelynburrell445 Год назад
Perhaps the clothes that were worn if not following the European dress
@AndyJarman
@AndyJarman Год назад
For me living in Australia the heritage of being from a defeated people is the core reason for the kack of social advancement. Progressivism insists on promoting the idea that the age of a culture denotes its legitimacy, woe betide anyone who points out the Aboriginal people were stuck with technology a large part of the human race abandoned ten thousand years ago. I qarch the three government TV channels provided for Aboriginal people here and despair at the promotion of the attitude that due to skin colour Aboriginal people should identify with African Americans. The Aboriginal people of Australia suffered greatly, much like the peoples elsewhere around the world who could not compete with the mechanisation and industrialusm of rhe West. But, making up children's stories to salve the conscience of rhe colonisers and to kid the defeated people that they were not also partly to blame for not being able to resist the onslaught of the West is not going to work. Modern people need to learn they are not going to turn the clock back, they have to deal with todays situation and the idea of revolution/repatriation is just ridiculous.
@bryanb30
@bryanb30 Год назад
53:27 Define racism! That has little meaning to certain age groups. Prejudice and Discrimination where terms used. American “Black” people by definition are the only contemporary collective that habitually are racist by the classical definition. * racism, also called racialism, the belief that humans may be divided into separate and exclusive biological entities called “races”; that there is a causal link between inherited physical traits and traits of personality, intellect, morality, and other cultural and behavioral features; and that some races are innately superior to others.* Most collectivist groups by definition are “racist” and are obsessed with what people look like. Black Americans can’t shut up about race since what they look like defines them! Americans that happen to be black are more evenly balanced.
@killa3x
@killa3x Год назад
Why the Texas sweater?
@deal2live
@deal2live Год назад
We have here goes the neighbourhood? We see that if more than 10% people in housing are black, it lowers the price of the property! Not sure how a buyer perceive this? This 10% must cause an issue that is visible to the market with out counting?
@narendra62
@narendra62 Год назад
What is interesting is that the east African asians came at the same time as the west indians. The Asians moved very quickly up the social ladder. The root cause is the belief in education and stable families. Neither of which was true of the west indians.
@jocelynburrell445
@jocelynburrell445 Год назад
What is a Royal Family
@anakissedboyle3067
@anakissedboyle3067 Год назад
15:30 what is she actually saying there ? That’s quiet a generalisation, I hope she comes back to it .
@TreyStegall
@TreyStegall Год назад
Why are you wearing at UT sweatshirt? It's making it hard for my Aggie brain to concentrate. 😁
@jocelynburrell445
@jocelynburrell445 Год назад
May Charity to the Less fortunate around the World and a smile can be Charity True guidance of the heart and soul The Quran and books of Prophets pbuthem all . Before coming to the Earth and how to live on it and Satan who is a enemy to Man And Mankind The whole family
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@airipedro8697 Год назад
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@mike6348
@mike6348 Год назад
My first investment with him gave me profits of over $27k U.S dollars and he does not fail
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@sallysaunby7983 Год назад
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@shettywap
@shettywap Год назад
This bot and scam thread is legendary. Yall are funny.
@Astarkiller
@Astarkiller Год назад
@@shettywap haha I know I had to follow it to the end…a couple diverse tactics and strategies.
@grahamjoss4643
@grahamjoss4643 Год назад
texas represent
@terence4427
@terence4427 Год назад
This is off the topic, but I think these two should date.
@serpentines6356
@serpentines6356 Год назад
People also want Coleman to date that other pretty lady he interviewed. We could start a dating app for Coleman. 😁
@theohopkins1903
@theohopkins1903 Год назад
Kenan Malik? Will he get a mention here? It's class, not race, for him. And I think there is a lot right to say that.
@theohopkins1903
@theohopkins1903 Год назад
Ah! At 30:00 mins Kenan Malik comes up.
@LS-xs7sg
@LS-xs7sg Год назад
I find the whole "decolonising the curriculum" thing slightly ironic. It seems to consist of getting rid of white writers & artists and giving particular prominence to representatives of the new arrivals. But isn't replacing native cultural figures with foreign ones almost the definition of colonisation?
@Shambayamiti
@Shambayamiti Год назад
"Traditional Afrikan whatever that means." Hahaha
@bryanb30
@bryanb30 Год назад
22:27 She Liberal in the Classical sense we get it!
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