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Rachmaninoff’s second sonata op.36's Presto - ''Who’s the best?'' 

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Pianists:
0:01 Zoltán Kocsis
0:30 Yuja Wang
1:00 Vladimir Horowitz
1:37 Aleksandr Malofeev
2:02 Valentina Lisitsa
2:34 Nikolaj Lugansky
3:04 Marc-André Hamelin
3:29 Dmitry Shishkin

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28 авг 2024

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@RachFanatic1943
@RachFanatic1943 Год назад
Who's the best? Write down your suggestions for the next “Who's the best?”
@lorenzomandis7791
@lorenzomandis7791 Год назад
Kocsis and Lisitsa
@Joshua_Hershensohn
@Joshua_Hershensohn Год назад
Kocsis and Horowitz
@khalilmutallibov
@khalilmutallibov Год назад
Kocsis and it's not even close.
@mmelloe
@mmelloe Год назад
all add their lovely personal flair. kocsis is very clean. in this video horowitz and lisitsa are my favorites. horowitz for his sound that is somehow both dry and cataclysmic, lisitsa for the bass chords at the end that are like a thunderstorm in the deep sea
@RachFanatic1943
@RachFanatic1943 Год назад
@@mmelloe I totally agree with you!!
@mcintertz5593
@mcintertz5593 Год назад
Has to be Kocsis for me. Such sweep and rhythmic drive, as well as the most technically assured here.
@evifnoskcaj
@evifnoskcaj Год назад
Lugansky!!! He really had fantastic shape. It wasn't just a technical exercise for him. Honestly, though, I think they're all amazing. For Aleksandr Malofeev, how old is he there? Wow! Excellent list of pianists. Some might say, they all...Rach. 😜
@scarpiapiano
@scarpiapiano Год назад
I love the chromatic line that Horowitz added at the end. Instead of the bass pounding out 6 b-flats (which is what Rachmaninoff wrote) the f,g-flat,g,a-flat,a, and finally b-flat line that Horowitz added is FANTASTIC!!!! Horowitz also combined the best aspects of the 1913 original edition and the 1931 revision of the sonata creating, in my opinion an ideal version of what Rachmaninoff composed.
@damienheemskerk
@damienheemskerk Год назад
From these definitely Kocsis, also one of the few pianists to play the 1913 version. There was also an amazing live recording by Avdeeva on the chopin Institute channel which unfortunately seems to have been removed, which was by far my favourite performance of the sonata
@geoycs
@geoycs Год назад
Definitely? Hmmm.
@jfpary7336
@jfpary7336 Год назад
Horowitz is so unique. Look at his hands...nobody plays like that nowadays and nobody is able to make the piano sound this way.
@Dizzyfingers2
@Dizzyfingers2 Год назад
Considering Horowitz was almost 80 years old when he performed this and the fact that he had such an incredibly unique technique (flat palms - fingers extended straight - wrists almost below the keyboard) on these passages is truly remarkable.
@justsomeguy7044
@justsomeguy7044 Год назад
It's between Kocsis and Horowitz. Kocsis' recording of the 1913 version is a treasure. Horowitz gets an explosive sound and adds a line in the bass.
@natalykhr6161
@natalykhr6161 Год назад
Согласна
@michaelschefold3299
@michaelschefold3299 5 месяцев назад
Yuja 👍 Clarity, passion...
@scottwitherow3384
@scottwitherow3384 Год назад
I'm biased, because my first recording was Horowitz, but no one has matched his blend of clarity and romanticism. Every note of every chord is balanced, and the voice comes through so beautifully, but you don't hear virtuosity. Just beautiful and powerful melody.
@gregorymoreira8876
@gregorymoreira8876 Год назад
Horowitz swallows this piece whole and doesn't break a sweat!
@paulturner1973
@paulturner1973 8 месяцев назад
Kocsis for me too - for the same reasons as given below by mcintertz5593 - ie musically and technically the best. What a stupendous and versatile musician he was. (I sympathise with the Horowitz fan in the comments a bit further down the list, but I think he is somewhat off form in this particular live recording.)
@markdecker2112
@markdecker2112 Год назад
Kocsis and Lugansky for me
@NN-rn1oz
@NN-rn1oz Год назад
Horowitz. The only one whose "wrong" notes add to the excitement, to the point that I wish there were more of them!
@teodorb.p.composer
@teodorb.p.composer Год назад
Hamelin is my favourite
@sovietunion4875
@sovietunion4875 Год назад
Kocsis, he simply has the most drive and energy
@Wosudhehqaxb9169
@Wosudhehqaxb9169 Год назад
Great compilation.. an entry I would have loved to see would be Alexei Sultanov
@user-lk1tj3fb8f
@user-lk1tj3fb8f Год назад
Горовиц и Султанов! ❤️
@jamesmaxwellmagat2150
@jamesmaxwellmagat2150 2 месяца назад
Based on this roster and watching it several times, it's Horowitz for me. Simply because he never loses the singing tone even with the flurry of fortissimo runs, chords and octaves. You can still pick out the shape of the phrases. Second here is Shishkin for me for the same qualities.
@nihilistlemon1995
@nihilistlemon1995 Год назад
For me Kocisis , Hamelin and Lugansky
@brettaspivey
@brettaspivey Год назад
Lugansky by a wide margin
@RoboticsBay
@RoboticsBay Год назад
Kocsis far far above everyone else
@zestofpiano3509
@zestofpiano3509 Год назад
1. Wang, Kocsis 2. Lugansky, Lisitsa 3. Horowitz, Hamelin 4. Malofeev, Shishkin
@michaelschefold3299
@michaelschefold3299 5 месяцев назад
Agreed! ❤
@kaleidoscopio5
@kaleidoscopio5 Год назад
Horowitz and Valentina, sounds like the universe collapsing on itself 😮😮....and you missed the only succesor of Horowitz: Alexei Sultanov 🧐☝️
@RachFanatic1943
@RachFanatic1943 Год назад
I'm sorry, unfortunately there are so many interpreters that it is very difficult to select the ones that everyone can appreciate, with the exception of Lang Lang🤣🤣
@kaleidoscopio5
@kaleidoscopio5 Год назад
@@RachFanatic1943 well said about LL 😏
@SCRIABINIST
@SCRIABINIST Год назад
Lisitsa is mid lmao, compared to Horowitz at least. And the recording chosen here isn't the best, the ones from the 70s was far superior.
@nihilistlemon1995
@nihilistlemon1995 Год назад
Imagine being a Valentina fan . Have fun being in the wrong side of history while having 0 musical taste
@user-lk1tj3fb8f
@user-lk1tj3fb8f Год назад
Да!!!!! Горовиц и Султанов!!! ❤️
@WaldemarMoes
@WaldemarMoes Год назад
Kocsis, hands down.
@joeyblogsy
@joeyblogsy Год назад
Hamelin and Kocsis
@nihilistlemon1995
@nihilistlemon1995 Год назад
Same !
@AsrielKujo
@AsrielKujo Год назад
hamelin for meeee
@renelicht
@renelicht Год назад
😍😍😍😍😍
@CarloGinex
@CarloGinex Год назад
Kosics
@Alex-oy6ss
@Alex-oy6ss 8 месяцев назад
Cliburn, for sure
@Rexily13
@Rexily13 Год назад
Marc-André Hamelin all the way!
@khurshid_piano
@khurshid_piano Год назад
Personally Yuja and Hamelin. When Hamelin started to play immediately different feeling. I guess most technically advanced on this list was him
@nihilistlemon1995
@nihilistlemon1995 Год назад
Kocsis is also very technical 🤔
@khurshid_piano
@khurshid_piano Год назад
@@nihilistlemon1995 definitely! Its just personally Hamelin is more "gifted"
@nihilistlemon1995
@nihilistlemon1995 Год назад
@@khurshid_piano that is also pretty untrue despite what you personally believe . I may elaborate on that . While indeed Hamelin recorded a lot of alkan . Let's not forget the great and speedy performance of Kocsis on Rachmaninov concertos and the whole Bartok discography of his .
@claytonfarmer437
@claytonfarmer437 Год назад
John Ogden was amazing on this piece, though not caught on video
@peterbrenton410
@peterbrenton410 Год назад
Apart from the sound quality,this is my favourite -extract from 6.24 .and he creates tension in the climaxes .and stretches the final chords to add to this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0Dodm7QB0rM.html
@RachFanatic1943
@RachFanatic1943 Год назад
I agree, it’s a wonderful version!
@tomyoarrete3060
@tomyoarrete3060 Год назад
Hamelin🎉🎉
@thebrygi1648
@thebrygi1648 Год назад
Thoughts on Ashkenazy
@massipicun8658
@massipicun8658 Месяц назад
Hamelin
@sergio6357
@sergio6357 Год назад
루간스키와 아믈랭을 섞으면 완벽할 듯..
@Alpha6.31
@Alpha6.31 Год назад
Simon Trpceski
@mcbainst
@mcbainst Год назад
Lugansky
@birkin3292
@birkin3292 Год назад
Vladimir Horowitz,,
@michaelschefold3299
@michaelschefold3299 Год назад
Yuja and Kocsis, Yuja plays with more expression and clarity, Kocsis with the better natural flow.
@neonfist8556
@neonfist8556 Год назад
Alexei Sultanov!
@martian-sunset
@martian-sunset Год назад
Horowitz.
@tongbunsing
@tongbunsing Год назад
Horowitz !!!!!!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
@lordhenrywotton69
@lordhenrywotton69 Год назад
horowitz e’ di un altro pianeta , il resto e’ un compromesso.. non si suonera’ mai piu’ con un onesta’ musicale e tecnica e culturale come quella di horowitz..
@hate_willnever_win
@hate_willnever_win Год назад
Sultanov is the best one
@andream.464
@andream.464 Год назад
Pogorelich live frombthev 90s
@mourgoukos
@mourgoukos Год назад
what a strange comparison... unbalanced
@NINOABSNABSN
@NINOABSNABSN Год назад
Valentina Lisitsa is more passionate with clearer sentences.
@1389Chopin
@1389Chopin Год назад
Loved them all - but horowitz
@Daniel-qx6bg
@Daniel-qx6bg Год назад
Lang Lang has the best version
@gojewla
@gojewla Год назад
Many of these performers sound like they are just trying to play as fast as possible, but they can’t really do it. Terribly rhythm, choppy and bad sound production - not to mention that the musical idea is simply not there.
@Daniel-qx6bg
@Daniel-qx6bg Год назад
so, who is the best in your opinion?
@gojewla
@gojewla Год назад
@@Daniel-qx6bg I don’t know who plays the piece the *best* but in this little snippet of the piece, I think I like the Lugansky recording the most. He has the most control and his hands are together, and his sound production is probably the overall best. Plus his playing is not vertical, and his lines have shape, particularly within the triplet runs. What I don’t like about any of these recordings though are the accented staccato basses, which would (in my opinion) sound way better with pedal. Rachmaninov didn’t write pedal anywhere in the piece, but he certainly didn’t write staccato in this passage either. I remember liking the John browning recording though - particularly the first movement. He plays the original version though.
@alexandredarrasse5068
@alexandredarrasse5068 Год назад
Horowitz 🙈
@NanaKwame96
@NanaKwame96 Год назад
Horowitz clears.
@gregorymoreira8876
@gregorymoreira8876 Год назад
I’m sorry, but I cannot compare anyone to Horowitz because he’s from another planet.
@bestonemusic
@bestonemusic Год назад
If Trump had taken the path of pianism....
@bartwatts1921
@bartwatts1921 Год назад
Kocsis is actually musical. The rest are dry, uninspired and devoid of musicality.
@toddandrews2222
@toddandrews2222 Год назад
Horowitz.
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