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Carlito didn’t even say go back to China, he said he wants to learn Chinese. Didn’t know that was meant to be racist smh some of yall would’ve died during the attitude era
Right!! Like fans are nothing but a bunch of soft ass losers nowadays and they acting like WWE didn’t do so many racist gimmicks and segments from the past 40 years
And what was the intent behind the line? It was used as a “haha joke,” not as part of Carlito’s villain character or to push any storylines for IYO to fight against. So yeah I have an issue with WWE using a micro-aggression Asians in America deal with everyday as a cheap joke.
@@RingTheBellebut your cool with every other micro-aggression they use just not the Asians ones, huh? I honestly don’t think it was meant to be racist but to add a “haha moment” but I forgot in 2024 y’all cry about every joke because it hurt y’all feelings😂 sensitive af!
@@RingTheBelle I mean, to each their own, but the character of Carlito is a buffoon. I don't think the line was meant to insult Iyo or Kairi, I think it was meant to highlight how Carlito (the character) is so stupid he can't tell the difference between Japanese and Chinese. It mocks him, not them.
@@B.-T. She is the best female ever! She was part of the Attitude Era, Ruthless Aggression Era, and the early 2010's...she is loyal and always comes back for more. She is part of some iconic moment's back when pro wrestling was at it's most popular and iconic...when 30 million viewers watched. Her interviews with The Rock, Stone Cold, Undertaker are iconic. She was there through everything...The Attitude Era, 9/11/ Eddie Guerreros death, Owen Harris death, the PG Era ECT. Eddie Guerrero loved her, she was his favorite Announcer. I haven't seen a Women come close to her. Samantha has only been around for 3 years...she hasn't reached Lillian Garcia level.. because Lillian Garcia didn't date any Wrestlers and never wanted too and she never married one and left with him when he went to WCW or TNA. She was Loyal and had a husband away from pro wrestling. I love Lillian Garcia because she is WWE through and through and has been part of my teenage years and part my early 20's and early 30's. She very nostalgic for me.
@@RingTheBelle i think they were kinda threading the needle here between being just trying to be controversial and being racist so I can see how some could interpret it as it just being a part of Carlito's character while others can view it as racist. There's a difference in motive between saying "go back to China" in a malicious way as some dumb fan said to Iyo a few years back on NXT and Carlito saying "I need to learn Chinese". I think the issue is that the "joke" did not land and it was pretty cringe. The issue could have been easily solved if Iyo came back into the shot and said "I'm Japanese bitch!" to Carlito as a call back to what she said in NXT as she would have gotten a loud pop out of it.
It’s definitely Carlito’s character of being an idiot and not racism. Like all the sensitivity in the world now is crazy. Knowing you’re just going to continue to tune into WWE after this is crazy too. Love DS, but it’s not that serious 💯
@@RingTheBellegrow up. If words mean something so much to you, then use them correctly. That joke was not racist. And wwe has never been the woke saint place you want it to be and it will never be so stop crying and stop watching the product. Go and watch AEW
My Gosh! Why are people so soft??? Carlito saying "He needs to learn Chinese" is RACIST??? Back in Attitude Era, Racism was never mentioned. In today's world if I was to say in Public that I ate a Curry and I enjoyed it without aiming it at anyone is deemed as Racist as well (this actually did happen). What has happened to this Planet? Why so soft?
Io and Kairi deserve better than what they're being given. i don't mean a 300+ day undefeated streak but something better for the world class wrestlers that they are. thank goodness Stardom still has so much of their old content available for free here on youtube
I'm 100% sure that Saraya vs Mercedes is going to happen really soon as Saraya is sideline from harley and will be coming as face Saraya but my thing is whenever this match happens it needs to Main Event a ppv show.. what do you think@RingTheBelle ?
Hey , WWE the 80's called. They want their hacky Asian jokes back. I'm Vietnamese and I don't think it's racist but it is a dumb outdated joke. Now will it fuel other people to call all East Asians Chinese. Well that's another topic to discuss. Great content as always.
That joke was dated. I did not laugh either. Even if HHH/producers ran it by IYO & Kairi to see if they were ok it, its still a Vince Russo-level Stupid Joke
if it does turn out that Iyo and Kairi were ok with it then who are you to suggest its offensive? you saying you know better than they do what should be offensive to them as Asians? That seems pretty racist too bro or at the very least disrespectful......
@@Yourhandlesux Where in my comment did I use the word “offensive”? DS has a right to use it and feel how he does. I said “That Joke was dated”. Lets not do this straw man argument sis…
@@crimsonite2044 Where in my comment did i say you USED THE WORD "offensive"? lol "Even if HHH/producers ran it by Iyo and Kairi to see if they were ok it...." Why would you have said that if not to insinuate that it was offensive? Also you said it was "dated" and "a stupid joke" and that you "did not laugh either". Bro you are CLEARLY offended lol. Also, im not arguing DS doesnt have a right to be offended. Im saying YOU dont have a right to be offended unless you are asian.
HHH getting hit with criticism for lazy booking for POC talent as of late to then ratify an unfortunately common racist “joke” toward Asians is so tone deaf, ignorant & unacceptable. He completely crossed the line. *Update
IYO & Kairi are some of the best talents wrestling has to offer & you make a Chinese joke when they’re clearly Japanese which has been established multiple times….i hope he apologizes to them
@@EazySCT Nothing about it is justifiable. You can have him be an idiot without him being racist. The two doesn’t have to be tethered to one another. There’s been many “dumb” characters on wrestling TV but never made a racist joke.
Trial and error it happened for a lot of POC wrestlers especially black wrestlers back in the day. Hopefully this will be a learning experience sometimes we need to have moments like these to teach people the honest way. Sometimes we do have uneducated errors I don’t believe they meant harm but once again this can be a learning lesson for all. Especially since we do have an increase talent within the Asian community.
I also think Samantha quit the company because it was very sudden as if she was presented an opportunity that she could not say no to... probably a major record deal from a very major record company cause WWE let her go quick.
DS, I’m sorry that people don’t understand that racism and ignorance can be the same thing. Racism isn’t always slurs and cross burning or even a conscious decision. Even if it was “just a joke” or to “make Carlito seem like an idiot”, it erases Io and Kairi’s identity and signals to fans that it’s okay to do the same. Empathy sure is rare these days.
I liked Stephanie Vaquer's entrance, and it was perfect, IMO. She had that presence like she owed the entire room and had been there for years already.
I'm so done with this Rhea booking. It's boring, stale and I still don't get why she's the babyface when she was the one that screwed with Liv, Raquel and Dom. Just finish this feud.
FR thank you for speaking about that weird segment last night, because it left a whole bad time in my mouth, especially neither Kairi or Iyo being from China.
@@matthewsmith6176 but others might have, more specifically a person that is Japanese. Given the situation that Iyo went through at NXT, while include it in the first place.
I can’t remember the whole explanation but i believe the WWE Speed Champions don’t carry their belts bc it’s more of this Twitter collab and it being more of The Twitter belt.
when bianca took the 3 original damage control members on extreme rules all by herself IWC goes crazy cause was "hurting the product", but again rhea got all the pass huh
Bianca and even Becky got so much shit for how strong they looked vs Damage CTRL but Rhea gets a slap on the wrist in comparison. Becky was called Becky Hogan so much Tiffany Stratton was straight up asked if she thinks Becky buried her. With Bianca race definitely plays a factor but obviously Becky's white so it's something else with her. My opinion is Rhea's whole "step on me Mami" not so subtle Dominatrix shtick plays really well to the majority straight guy audience so they let her get away with stuff they crucify others for.
I highly recommend not watching any WWE pre 2017 which is when most of y'all started watching wrestling LMAO if you think this is bad. It's pro-wrestling not Teletubbies, go watch that instead.
No offense to Lash, but she needs to update some of her moves. The pump kick, chokeslam, and stinger splash are all moves that Jade Cargill uses. I just wouldn’t want people to think of her as a Jade Cargill copy because she’s less known.
I'm not sure it was "racist". Was a it a bit cringe? Yes. Racist? I don't think so, because I do not believe the intention was to be insulting or demeaning or anything like that. I think it was a bad joke, and sometimes, things don't land. But, IDK...I'm not Asian, but I am Native American, so idk. I think in today's hypersensitive world, we want to label things quickly as something, when it more than likey wasn't. Either way, I love IYO & Kairi, and I think they deserve better than basically jobbing for people.
Samantha was on her way to a HOF career and seemed to be very well liked by the company. Idk her reasoning but I honestly think leaving is a huge mistake. Sad to see her go.
Too soft, man. “Lets act like pro-wrestling is not fake and think about it like a series or movie with stories”. So tell me, have you not seen any movie or series with a racial joke?
I completely missed Carlito’s comment. Chances are that wasn’t even live tv, so they filmed it and still let it go without a cut. I would accept Carlito making a very dumb joke, but nobody saying we ought to cut that. That’s when it goes from cringe to cmon.
It feels for the moment that WWE got big plans for the women's tagteam titles. I think the women's tagteam titles should be defended inside...WARGAMES!!! Five or six tagteams locked inside Wargames fighting for the titles. That would be a big push for the women's tagteam division.
Good rundown of things. Always love the updates and to listen to your thoughts on things. ------ With Carlito, it's like, if R Truth said that, ppl wouldn't be tripping. He's a joke character and supposed to silly and off-color stuff. Same with Carlito. That and, well, Carlito is a heel. They're supposed to say and do stuff to irk ppl. This is why it's hard for us to have good heels in the modern era. As fans, we censor heels a bit more than we should. Imagine JBL or DuRag Vince trying to get over in this era. I do think there is a point where they can go too far with it tho. I just think, it's wrestling. And we need to allow wrestling to be wrestling. We should be more concerned if it's a senator, mayor, congressman doing these things. Those ppl actually write laws and policies that effect ppl lives. Carlito is playing a villain character. Ppl must be writing Amazon everyday about Homelander then. It's a TV character who is supposed to get under the audience's skin. You're beyond justified to be pissed DS. Especially being from the Chi. We're both from that city so yeah, i done peeped what you mean by that. The thing with Carlito as a heel is... that's kinda the point. As long as Iyo and Kairi were cool w/it and agreed to it for heat, albeit cheap heat, then hopefully Trips pipelines it into something great for them. ------- Also, have you seen all the static online about stans complaining that Rhea looks too strong? I'm like, idk if these fans would've made it through Stone Cold, The Rock, Sting or even Undertaker in their heydey. How is Rhea overpowered if she loses to Liv each time? ------ And yes, it is 🔥 to have Lilian back. Especially if we see her interact ls with The Final Boss again at some point. ----- AEW? We all just waiting for Mercedes to chase the big gold at this point.😅 Mercedes at her finest isn't just random match, random match, random match. Like you said, build. Gotta let her cook. The epic moments that are referenced from her career come from them building and letting her cook. Even the Japan stuff with Mayu and Kairi before the injury. Gotta let her cook. It's tough to cook with a TV title. If we watch a James Bond or John Wick movie of only gunfights with no story, how many minutes before you turn it off and watch Game of Thrones or The Boys, etc? They need stories. Kudos to Toni Storm, Mariah May and Mina for carrying post-Punk. But yeah, AEW gotta get back to compelling stories again. Especially with Mercedes.
As a straight dude who watches your channel religiously, I can confirm. The NXT booty match was awesome. Plus they can all go in the ring which makes it twice as awesome.
I’m loving seeing NXT talent in raw and Smackdown. What a gold mine the WWE has, that they are able to pull up folks to shore up their weak divisions. I would love to see Axiom and Fraser move up to strengthen the RAW men’s tag division.
It's a fictional character saying go back to China. The character is a loof and an antagonist, you aren't supposed to like or agree with. I can't believe in 2024 we still have fans who can't understand the difference. Do you get mad at The Boys when Homelander is calling ppl cripple and other slurs. This isn't the babyface in 1999 calling Funaki Chinese and going ding dong Bing bong. THATS BAD and a product of its time but this is nothing more than an idiot character, showing his ignorance as carlito typically does. NOT CARLY, CARLITO THE CHARACTER. Love you Ds.
Wasn’t it the match w Jayme Hayter that Penelope Ford got injured? Why isn’t that the angle?? And you were my friend on top of that and didn’t check up on me?! Wow… missed opportunity On commentary they called her finisher “Lash Extension” which I love actually
I enjoyed Rhea beating up The Judgment Day, but at the same time I feel like she and Raquel should have had a face off leading to Crown Jewel instead of the brawl. PS: Rhea is NOT booked strong all the time. She and Tiffany literally got their butts whooped by Liv and Raquel last week.
Liv and Raquel only beat them up because they took them by surprise while Rhea and Tiffany were arguing. Of it's not from behind or coming off a distraction usually involving a weapon Rhea is not allowed to get beaten up or made to look vulnerable at all.
@@thebatmanwhoposts9600 1. Rhea's character is supposed to be a badass, resilient babyface who is out for blood. Thus being booked this way 2. Liv lost her fierce aura when Rhea left. She would be a runaway girl and a cunning lady. She couldn't win one on one matches without help. The last time she won a one on one match clean was against Zoey Stark in February. 3. HHH is making it obvious Rhea is beating Raquel Rodriguez and Liv is losing the title and feud to Rhea. Conclusively, blame the bookers not Rhea for the "too strong booking"
@NanaAnokye-kg2ls who said I don't blame Triple H? In the end this can hurt Rhea too because fans can turn on her. More and more fans even casual ones are getting sick of LOLRHEAWINZ why risk pissing people off? Would fans turn against Rhea if she wasn't always looking uber strong? Is she that one dimensional a performer she can only play a strong generic badass?
@@thebatmanwhoposts9600 HHH needs to stop the repetitive booking, could have let Rhea and Raquel face off without Liv getting involved. Liv and Nia have not got a proper face-off, which is very bad.
One fucking day after the Rolling Stones article on how bad the writer's room is in WWE. It's funny. The article presented a balanced POV by the end. One writer went: "things will improve without Vince", while the other was doubtful, saying the toxicity is now ingrained. Congrats on the Fed for clarifying who was right.
Ok, imma be honest. I went and watched the old smackdown storylines for Torrie Wilson. And Lillian botches more than ppl remember, so I wasn’t shocked what so ever. Those that were indifferent with Samantha about to find out for sure!
I get a feeling Liv is loosing to Rhea the next time they meet and dropping the title to her..... Theyre starting to mix her and raquel back in the tag devision and i think that could be a sign of what theyll be doing next
I’m honestly over the Liv & Rhea storyline. I love Liv but they continue to make Liv and crew look weak bc of their booking of “Super” Rhea. I wish they would move on from this and let Liv continue to be champ and face other opponents.
They can maybe take a break from this feud between Liv and Rhea, at least for the rest of this year. Let Liv feud with couple women for the rest of the year. Then by the Royal Rumble or Wrestlemania they can go back to Liv and Rhea again.
5:57 agreed. it's so tired with these Asian slurs. Also WWE has been leaning in to using Damage Control as glorified jobbers which makes me very concerned for folks like Giulia and even not Asian Stephanie Vacquer who are doing well now but WWE just does not want the POC women to stay in the top echelon of WWE storylines and titles by and large. Frustrating...
Wait did Samantha leave because Ricochet is with AEW now? Idk I've honestly stopped watching WWE since the Judgement Day changed. I just watch Ring The Belle videos to keep up.
If y’all having not listen to Pro wrestling Unlimited, they said that comment that Carlito said that’s the one who said it was unplanned really unplanned, or cover your butt ! WWE has always been tone deaf when it comes to certain cultures WWE superstars that are on their current roster They have always been very tone deaf when it comes to Asians : Chinese, Japanese and Korean and many others They are very tone deaf when it comes to African-Americans as well : Ask ourselves is one of their big superstars JC I think I probably can figure out who I’m talking about. Specially it mens , Who wrestling gimmick for so many years was based off of African-American culture But it gets much worse y’all WWE has a problem of culture appropriation, when it comes to hairstyles Everybody complaint in written, and to WWE of making Becky Lynch stop wearing Bantu knots oh that’s why she’s not doing that no more she got in trouble for that is a lot of things WWE got in trouble for it so now they are not doing that no more All I’m saying is WWE is now being called out for everything they have done wrong that means from culture in procreation where they’ll let you handed backhand comment that is towards another race WWE has always been tone deaf went home to race ! They are never going to admit when they’re wrong. Let me just tell you this. Having several brother-in-law‘s that worked in the wrestling industry for over 30 years experience
