Somebody stop this man, he is spending his quarentine benchmarking everything on sight, if they dont release new gpus he is going to benchmark the cat.
@monroe they weren't before but now they are pretty solid...he's not saying that just to fanboy, at first when Adrenalin 2020 came out it was ass anyone would admit that but they fixed the issues.
@monroe lol my 5700xt is extremely quiet with temps never passing 70 degrees, where do you get your info from? Intel fanboys? Also from the day 1 I never had a driver issue. I'm really starting to believe these people with issues may have horrible Psu's or bad cooling in their PCs
The thing is, the 5700XT isn't punching above it's class, that is it's class. The others are just too expensive for mid range cards, or mid-high range. I miss the old days of affordable graphic cards, and people not defending the stupid high prices.
Luan Le Ngoc honestly man I would just wait, I know everyone says that but within the next 3-4 months amd and nvidia should both have some amazing cards coming out for these prices most likely with better performance
Acabei de comprei a rx 5700xt gigabyte gaming oc por 350€ usada(4 meses de uso e quase 2 anos de garantia), não podia ter feito melhor compra, não aconselho a comprar alguns dos modelos mais baratos, as temperaturas podem ser um problema.
You are a lier. From start 5700xt was declared as an equal to 2070. But some lunatic wrote and make fake videos, what 5700xt is equal and even better than 2070 super. OK, it's finally proven 5700xt is weeker than 2070 super on about 9% and still has troubles with drivers. 2070 super - just works from 2019. Without pain, without troubles.
@@killslayer002 raw performance says otherwise. There are like 3 games that favor amd and yes there are lots of driver issues therefore why I hate amd gpus now (Also driver issues were never fixed)
@@dennissocaci6207 Sadly for me in Belgian, the difference between the two is 150euro. I'm going for the 5700xt as it is nearly the same in most competitive games at lowe settings for frame maximization. If the gap was smaller, I'd take the 2070s.
2020 Dec : 5700XT vs 2080 2021 APR : 5700XT vs 2080 Super AMD fine wine is sickening 😂😂 Edit: 4th Aug. This ain't even the end of 2020 and as per benchmark video by Testing games my claim has been proven, like always AMD fine wine is the most superior to any other tech, 5700XT vs 2080s in 4k by Testing Games. Fps gap has been reduced to 5-10fps mostly.
It's a reflection of the timestamps in the video description... I should check some old videos that already had timestamps and see if the system is back-trackable. Edit: Answer: No. It's not back-tracked. It could be an additional setting in the uploader's settings, and it could also be a new API that requires old videos to be somehow updated or reuploaded.
Raytracing isn't really worth it in this gen,since only some games supports it and some even look good without rt but hopefully nivida realese the 30xx series with alot of improvement
It's been known that the 5700XT is slower than the 2070super, some of these results with it (5700XT) however are somehow lower than even stock users i know with 3900X, 3700X and 3800X users which are due to frequency being higher on intel, slower in 1080p gaming
@@supershadow230 when you mouse over the video length/progress bar at the bottom of the video, it's cut into pieces which are named after what is going on there, for example game titles like battlefield 5 when he was showing performance in battlefield 5 and such.
I've been and remain Extremely Happy with my reference 5700 XT. I Love the gaming performance and visuals on my 32' Freesync monitor. With Radeon Image Sharpening everything at 1440p looks basically like native 4k and again performance is phenomenal. If I give my card just 6watts extra over stock and up the max fan speed to %50 (over the default %42) I get an highly consistent clock speed of 1942MHz while drawing only 189watts at %100 utilization. Temps are fine and with headphones you'll just experience Excellence. I know there are AIB cards that are better, but even the reference blower design has worked extremely well for me. Also, I have 3 monitors and never had any driver issues. Can't wait for nextgen GPU's from AMD, nvidia and Intel.
I hope you would show or give short details about the max temperature and power usage of each card everytime you release reviews like this. That would really help us and make your videos as reference. That's something I've been looking to your videos. But all in all, you make great reviews. I thank you for that. Keep it up. God bless ^_^
Just saying thank you for breaking down your video into chapters. I still watched the whole thing, but found it so much easier to go back to certain points for reference.
Wow, I was literally debating between the two cards. I landed on the 5700xt. I pretty much only play Tarkov on 1080p and didn’t see the value in the extras from Nvidia.
@@mrbubble9618 Not a single issue. I got the PULSE version and I also haven't seen it hit above 60 degrees . Amazing card and the Radeon software is so good. I had an nvidia card before this too and actually prefer the radeon software to shadow play. So many awesome features
I would really like to know how many "gamers" recommending 2070S's for 1440 no matter the cost (cause moar frames moar better) actually own a high refresh monitor and/or include one in their recommendation... Personally I've met one that still has a 1080p60 monitor with his 2070, and one that I convinced to upgrade to a 1440 (from 1080) to go with his 2080 but he couldn't afford 4k or high refresh 1440. If you're on a budget like me where the whole system is relatively out of date and you can only afford to upgrade 1 thing at a time; unless Nvidia drops prices by 15-20% I just don't see a future there. Great video as always! Thanks for following up on the 2060S.
Almost everyone in my country is recommending 2070s over 5700xt lol, they think that it's better because it's nvidia and think that amd is for the poor and miners
in my country (Argentina), due to all the taxes hardware is really expensive, a 5700xt is about 760usd, i managed to get a 5700xt for the same price as an 1660ti in my country, i paid the card 430usd so it was a good purchase i think.
@@jorgetucson8196 compra afuera lucas, tiendamia, comprafacil, etc. Jamas compres en mercadolibre SALVO que sea una excepción. Ejemplo. Si queres un monitor 144hz que acá sale 42 pero afuera sale 40, yo compraría acá, por una cuestión de seguridad y tranquilidad, no se que quilombos hay que hacer para reclamar la garantia a Amazon. Saludos.
@@jorgetucson8196 Amazon.de, te llega a tu casa como si fuera mercadolibre y los precios son enormemente distintos, lo único que tenes que hacer es sacar el +30% del impuesto pais sobre el total del checkout. Y asegurate que el producto diga vendido y enviado por Amazon. Era una publicación de 340 euros, rx5700xt
@@diegospizzo1475 Tiendamia es útil pero la verdad que por lo que tardan los productos sinceramente conviene traerlos de amazon europa, y los componentes mas baratos no vale la pena traerlos de afuera, otra pagina que les recomiendo es hardgamers.com , es como un trivago de componentes de pc en Argentina
Es la asus tuf gaming x3?? porque es la unica que vi a ese valor, si es ese modelo recomiendan NO COMPRARLO, si el modelo nuevo la tuf3 que vienen 2 ventiladores grandes y uno pequeños. De no ser asi avisame o pasame la publicación que estoy en la busqueda para comprar. Gracias
Same in south africa. Rx5700xt went from R5700 to R9700. Basically 30% increase its nuts. Ssd 240gb wd green was r499 its now R799. Americans have no idea how good they have it.
@@kiefline3785 I have got the RX 5700 XT Sapphire Pulse and had no real issues with it. If I recollect correctly I think i got blackscreen on 2 occasions while playing the Witcher 3 2 months ago, but since then I had no problems, it must have been fixed with the drivers. Also, If you get a case with at least decent fan-cooling, I most likely wont have any problems with the cards temperature.
this is a great review - thanks team. I just upgraded from a rx580 to a rtx 2070 super. Yes i knew the better value card was an xt5700 and the performance would have been close but the reason i did this was for a) i wanted stability b) i wanted something quiet and cooler running c) had some longevity d) had cuda support for doing funky stuff like deepfake and AI/ML. It was always hard to pick between the 2 and I sometimes have buyers remorse for paying the extra but when all said and done its done now and overall feel good about it. Like I said both great, depends on your personal requirements. Nice.
Don't feel bad. I just did the same thing. I was debating between the 2 cards and decided on the fact that Nvidia just works and it will be a fantastic card for a couple of years in my rig. PS I also had a rx580 8gb and it has frame stuttering and stability issues on many games that I enjoy.
@@essayedgar That would be my question also since nobody I've talked to has ever experienced any of these issues with the 5700xt expect the false temperature reporting that was fixed with the last driver update.
@@emulation2369 How is that not good for emulators? On old one it"s mostly cpu, and new ones like cemu, nvidia gpu have more issues... I'm an heavy emulator users with amd, 0 problems.
@@wile123456 not really, sony just recently announced that the ps5 will have a limited release at a higher price due to higher component costs so everyone is gonna get the shaft on this one.
Yep, next gen GPUs prices Are gonna go sky high! Gddr6 is getting more expensive all the time. Production delays cause shortage on parts, that means normally higher retail price because retailers rank up prices... and when economy goes down non dollar prices goes high because value of other currencies dip down...
@Mr BuzzKill First arguement is invalid since xbox supports keyboard and mouse, and while yes you have to pay to pay online, gamepass gives you lots of free games on top
I like the format of your video! The progress bar contains a nice clickable "jump point" with title! Very easy to navigate! I wish ALL uploads are like this!
@Jarrod'sTech can you review the 2060 on the new eluktronics laptops with the 10th gen intel CPU’s and what the difference is between the 9th gen intel CPU’s. Thanks 😊
Cheapest I found mine was $489 at Best Buy with Amazon price match. I also had a $25 rewards so $464 total. I don't just game, and I prefer the benefits outside of it from the 2070s.
Excellent review, getting ready to build a new gaming system, was going to purchase a 2070 but after your reviews cant justify the fps to dollar difference, so 5700xt for me!
Thank you for including results of a 2070 non super. Makes me feel marginally better about my card that its still used by some benchmarkers even though it became entirely obsolete 4 months after I spent $500+ on it.
It's insane how DLSS has gone from laughed at to extremely impressive with an update. It's definitely over sharp and should either be implemented a little better or have a sharpening setting but I'm impressed. With the new consoles theoretically being on par with upper mid range of this generation of graphics AMD and Nvidia are both gonna need a big upgrade to justify the price premium of high end products
I think DLSS is the future, all gpus should get that technology, it is most important than Raytracing. A mid end gpu could run 4k games using DLSS, that is just amazing
I had a 5700xt. The drivers were terrible. Weird stutter in many older games. Others also having similar problem. Replaced with 2070 super and couldn't be happier. Worked perfect straight out of the box. No messing around needed.
I’m all for the price to performance from AMD, but I’ve always had bad experiences with their drivers, which Is why I went the Nvidia route this time around.
@@jordanlarkin5807 Nvidia doesn't even have a AMD relive equivalent, c'mon now. Also, the most recent 5700XT drivers work great, don't uodate the drivers without knowing what'll be affected, research the update before doing so, like iOS for apple or android 10 on androids.
@@roboticvenom1935 the main point is drivers should work flawlessly or at least 99% of the time. One should not even had to figure out what a new driver update fixes or lacking of or with new bugs. I'm all for AMD for the price-to-performance ratio but its software driver glitches have been putting ppl off. Hence ppl rather spend 100dollar more on Nvidia's just to keep their hairs intact.
@@ericchoocl I've had my fair share of nvidia driver problems too, nothing DDU couldn't fix though. nvidia has had previous drivers hinder performance as well, it just happens, doesn't mean it doesn't suck
I had the Radeon 5700 XT for a few months and I had a good time with it but I began to have a variety of issues. Black screens. Stuttering. Random game crashes. I spent over a week figuring out ways to fix it by adjusting settings and trying different drivers. I youtubed how to optimize/fix these isssues hundreds of times and watched every advice on it. I still havent escaped these stupid issues. I decided to just buy the 2070 super and return the Radeon 5700 XT. Im done feeling like a beta tester for amd’s card.
I would agree with this video but, I used to own a 5700XT and it was garbage. US prices put the 2070S and 5700XT about $50 apart. 2070S is the better gpu at these prices IMHO. This is coming from an exclusive AMD user for years so take that for what it's worth.
I've been hearing not so good things about the 5700XT. Good thing I kept reading the comments. So the 2070S sounds more reliable for gaming even if it's a little more expensive. I currently own the RX 480 and its meh. I want to run Half Life Alyx with no problem. Looks like I'm swapping over to NVIDIA this time boys
The cards great but theres a huge amount of people having issues with the drivers on AMD cards I wanted to like the gpu but brand new out of the box it crashes of every game due to drivers not my system or setup....
I come to Hardware Unboxed because they primarily feature 1440p results, others focus on 1080p or 4k . My comment on 'comments' is that it looks like with DLSS enabled 5700xt & 2060 super have equivalent performance ..so HU again demonstrates that pricewise this is a good matchup . nVidia like Intel have been at a premium for a perceived bit more performance. HU did a price comparision previously, adding fan price to cpus that ship without & then restacking their results by'value' & it reinforced that alot more performance came from AMD. Would like them to shut down the fanboy crap feedback by featuring some freesync & gsync pricing stacked into results that perform better than 60fps ..ray tracing maybe the future but having to jump into a 2070 super to see a reflection is VERY costly, the 2060 performance sux . Thanks again Hardware Unboxed for some illuminating results & look forward to this content - so many others test at release , but you refining & retesting with VALUE focus is always worth watching
Oh, well AMd has a special little button on their driver application under the update driver section that allows you to report bugs and crashes. Don't know if you never saw it, looked for it, or are just lying.
You can report on the website and on the Driver application.. the problem here is everyone reports bugs to NVidia but when AMD has bugs they just return the GPU lmao how dumb is that?
Because of how Tim described DLSS 2.0 in Control, I bet future results with DLSS 2.0 will behave more like Youngblood. Full disclosure: I own a 5700 XT. Here’s Nvidia’s problem: the new consoles will have RDNA, and a growing percentage of the PC market will also have RDNA, so even though Nvidia basically has a key to free performance now, they have to incentivize developer support until they can run it completely through the driver, which may never happen. Thanks Steve for the thorough testing with context.
I find funny how 21% difference isnt enough for you guys on some games because of the 25% price difference, what are you expecting, a better performing by 30%, Ray Tracing, better drivers temps and cooling, construction quality and 1%`s?? Wtf! Its already clear that the 5700xt is a great value card, but by any means the 2070 super is bad, Ray Tracing and DLSS 2.0 with all the factors mentioned and new consoles coming I see this reasonably good for both AMD and Nvidia
If somebody already owns a decent gpu atm. then RTX 2070S is overpriced in the light of incomming new cards. AMd's pricing strategy does them and the buyers more favor.
Nvidia trouble themselves for early DLSS fiasco on release, and only 4 games currently support it. Even the RT cores in most benchmark aren't used, which is a somewhat wasted sillicon. Hopefully a lot more game and devs support those tech, as do both AMD and Nvidia to improve it.
DLSS uses the tensor cores on the chip. The RT cores are for ray tracing. Though nvidia did just release a beta to use tensor cores for your voice. Haven't tried rtx voice yet. But people already tried it. It sounds good.
I had a MSI 5700XT Mech and I recently just switched over to a 2070s because i was so tired of the crashes or black screens, driver issues over and over again and the constant thermal throttling. When the card worked it worked good but it wasnt always a guarantee unlike my 2070s which has had zero problems. I gave amd a chance with a gpu and i dont think i will again. You can hate on me all you want, im just here sharing my story.
Why do I keep watching these videos? I already know my RX 5700 XT (Sapphire pulse) is the best card on the market for this price range. I have some major insecurity issues for my first build. For those wondering this card has been a great experience so far! Runs great, the only thing I did to double check and make sure things were running smoothly was go on AMDs site and use their cleanup utility to make sure everything was clean. And then I downloaded the latest drivers from their site and forgot about it. There have been no black screens, or any issues so far after a month of playing. Every game I have thrown at it runs like a charm, and the temperature never gets above 60 degrees no matter how hard I try to do it. Some people may disprove of what I am about to say, but I used the Adren 2020 Performance tuning automatic overclocking feature and never had to worry about anything again.
Chris Chris yes, I bought the Gigabyte OC from Newegg @ 409.99. I haven’t had any driver issues yet. I am fan of AMD software. It runs COD medium settings at 1440p and averaging 150 FPS.. no lag or tearing.
@@andrew6363631 I'm still so indecisive. A lot of different experiences (Between 2070S & 570xt), different versions, and a huge price difference (140eur) Thanks anyway, seems that the AMD driver issues is solved, a lot of positive feedback lately
Chris Chris yeah it’s such a hard choice.. we’ll it might not be a bad idea to buy one at bestbuy and if you don’t like it return and try a new one haha.
For the ones that wanted DLSS to be tested, let me inform you that there is Trixx boost for all games in the Radeon weapon list that works great and ups FPS without losing in percievable quality.
Trixx Boost just add in the registry: DALNonStandardModesBCD1 = 21 76 12 24 00 00 00 60 16 32 09 18 00 00 00 60 So anyone can populate it with your own resolutions, aspect ratios and hz;
Trixx is not the same as DLSS, DLSS (particularly 2.0) will look better simply because its using hardware acceleration to re-inject detail into the image, Trixx reduces the rendering resolution and then upscales it again using image sharpening, so its using sharpening to clean up the naturally soft image of lower resolution, DLSS is not this at all, Nvidia too offers sharpening but DLSS rebuilds the image and they are finding 2.0 often even looks better... than native 4k. your right though its probably not perceivable to most gamers but those even playing with the tech are most likely to be looking even harder at the end result. there is no getting around it amd does not currently have a competing technology to DLSS, sharpening a downscaled image does not get close.
@@jinx20001For now AMD even disabled the DirectML filters available to enhance screenshots on the Crimson galery. After the DirectML filters, they only need to add a good image reconstruction algorithm (even a open source one) all these filters to be enabled like RIS. That would be a good enough competition even at lower quality if the compatibility is widespread.
@@brunogm You forgot to mention that DirectML being a Microsoft tech is also in the Xbox Series X (news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/03/16/xbox-series-x-glossary/). Microsoft also owns quite a few game publishers all of whom will more than likely be taking advantage of this technology as well as DXR, Mesh Shading and VRS. This will quickly move from console to PC as very little if any porting will be required since the new console is expected to be running a special version of Windows 10. What this means is that drivers for this functionality already exists on the development kits but probably won't be released until after the launch of the Xbox since this is a Microsoft show. Anything for the new Xbox will be compatible with the new RDNA2 cards from AMD, that's a given. So while right now DLSS has support in 4 games we can expect DirectML to be in many games in a short period of time. Even if DLSS is better in terms of performance/quality, DirectML will have widespread adoption so everyone including Nvidia needs to support DirectML. This is especially important for consumers as future players enter the GPU market such as Intel which will allow them to provide similar features and hopefully keep costs under control for new GPUs. The real winner here is Microsoft. While AMD reaps the rewards of tying up this partnership and being a good, reliable partner. It's all about the long game.
In Canada, the cheapest 2070 Super you can get starts at $750 whereas I got the MSI evoke 50th anniversary 5700 XT for $520. Thank god for your videos, I was literally going to buy a rtx 2060 super for $600 a day before I bought my 5700 xt, only thing that stopped me was having your video pop up in my recommended feed
I feel like people calling you biased should be a meme in itself. Make a shirt with green/red/blue letters spelling "shilling" and I'm sure people would buy it
Lmao, I bought my rx 5700 (non xt) a year ago for $350 and just sold it for $880 on eBay yesterday. Using the money to buy a rtx 2070 super because I get unbearable low gpu usage across my main games, fuckin amd man.
Thank you for all your hard work making these videos. That being said I would of liked to seen the difference in DirectX and Vulcan in game titles for these 2 cards.
@@modderhoop2058 ngl if you're playing in 4k with these cards you probably are a moron. The only things that can remotely handle that res is 2080S and TI. 4K gaming isnt remotely midrange even now, Highest end cards are needed with the highest end every other PC component+ 4k Monitor. That 100 euro increase isnt even close to attaining a decent 4k experience pal.
Whatever amd say, the driver issues are still here. I have just returned my second 5700xt after both having driver issues. Just get a second hand 1080ti. In the uk a 5700xt costs £400, while a second hand 1080ti is also £400. Performs like a 2080 for the price of a 5700xt.
Tharee tho I just got mine April 10th and returned it today, ended up with driver issues, never had an amd card before so I tried it out and returned for the 2070 super, good luck, I hope they can get their drivers figured out
Excellent review and nice self-effacing humor! Good job! Especially given the fact that you excluded 4K from your results when only 3.6% of users actually have 4K and likely a smaller percentage yet yearns for it. ;)
@@S55_Marquise I just got my build together and I am currently playing destiny 2 and it looks amazing. I have a b550 plus TUF gaming mother board, 5600x Ryzen CPU, Red devil 5700 xt in a NZXT compact 5i case
@@stas4086 I had a driver issues and they weren't acceptable, bsod, black screens, freezes and some games crashed. Minecraft on RX with shaders works fatally. Finnaly I returned my RX and bought a RTX 2070 super. It was worth it. No more problems, shaders running very well and Ray Tracing Abilities.
Here in Poland when I was upgrading (before prices skyrocketed because of Covid 19) the RX 5700XT Red Devil or Nitro+ which I was considering were almost the same price as the Gigabyte RTX 2070 SUPER Gaming OC, so this was a no-brainer for me and I went with the superior Nvidia card ;)
Keep in mind they're comparing top tier cards of both the 5700 XT and the RTX 2070 super. The 5700 XT featured here is $440 and the RTX 2070 super featured here is closer to ~$650
and people are still defending this nonsense. Nvidia will continue to raise their prices in comparison to AMD and they will reap what they sow because it just doesn't matter people just don't know what to do with their money. Nvidia's best value graphics card the 1660S is just 20-30 dollars cheaper than 5600 XT (about 10%) but 15%+ slower. People will still recommend nvidia here.
08:48 seems an unfair comparison to me...it would be more conclusive to compare DLSS 2.0 with TRIXX Boost and Raedon Image Sharpening enabled on the same scale although I cant even go as low as 960p on the Nitro+ (seems nonsense anyway as this is below 1080p) being on 1440p res. so I think you guys should maybe do a followup as render low res and upscaling is already a thing on AMD cards. I use it for considerably dropping the power consumption as I´m fine to play on 60fps stable/1440p for most games. Thinking of it I think Raedon Software allows for scaling too now
well, i am more than happy with my 2070S gaming x trio (what a name btw) and i hope everyone else is with their cards as well. i mean at the end of the day, if this is the case, who cares?
I agree, I too am very happy with my Nitro + 5700 XT. They're both great GPU's for gaming. I wonder if some people are happy with their purchases when I see them fighting with one another in the comments section of any videos comparing AMD to Nvidia. All the back and forth that goes on between brand fanatics is a byproduct of insecurities in my opinion.
I have the Gaming X Trio as well. Kinda regret getting it because it's huge. I've wanted to go ITX for a few months now but almost no SFF case can comfortably accommodate it.
@Stasss and another person who only reads what he wants to read. the comment wasn't about who cares in general but about stupid people who insult others for buying amd/nvidia for whatever reasons.
I had 5700xt for 6 months and was my worst experience in my life. Yeah at game u can see high fps sometimes but game playability, mouse lag, screen tearing and stutering were so disgusting. Games were generally unplayable. I sold it and bought 2070 super, man this card is so smooth against 5700xt. Look at to amd, they give 5600xt to their e-sport players because even they know that 5700xt has big problems with its own gpu rams. Don't throw your money to garbage. I' ve focked my life for 6 month with this hot shit. It heats up so much and it heats up all your mobo. It works with soc voltage like ryzen 3000 cpus but still not stable. Just check amd sponsored players and their gpu and then decide. Lots of youtube channel are paid by amd to show gpu better.
Errrhhh... I don't know, man... I have been using my RX 5700 and it has absolutely no problems. Didn't notice no visual bugs or any problems with that. Temperature never got higher than 68° C under heavy gaming loads.
red dragon 5700xt here and no probs with the card. Very stable and fast in every game! No high temperature or whatsoever. The AMD-Adrenaline is bs tho.
same boat to a T. I wasted so much research time and upgraded every thing around this card. Close to rma'ing it. Sold the 5700xt and just got the 2070 super and 0 issues and performance is gloriously obvious sinply on 1080 / 144 mhz
Replaced my Vega 56 to 5700XT! Albeit the windows and drivers were a pain AMD pulled through after for so long I have the Red Devil and it outperforms my buddy's 2060S even with a 1080P 144hz monitor. I was going to buy the 2070S with my mind to stay away from the 5700XT but the prices really pushed me back to 5700XT. Glad I did, also I like tinkering so the card is undervolted and overclocked. She stays 60c to 75c way better than my old vega 56 blower style.
I had a friend of mine who was like this: Hey what you would you recommend for around 450 euros I sad the RX 5700 XT He asked if it was an Nvidia card I said no He asked what was the closest Nvidia card to it I sad the 2060S was about the same price but 10% slower and the 2070S was 100 euros more expensive at minimum and around 10% faster. He said he'd rather have the 2060S and eat the 10% just to brag that he had an Nvidia card because no one would know what a 5700XT was. Moral of the story? For most people bragging rights and name recognition mean more than the few extra %. This is the reason why AMD cards will never sell well unless they are 20-30% faster at launch than their Nvidia price competitor. It's rather retarded but that's one of the best examples of Nvidia's mindshare
lol.......AMD only sell their cards because they are cheaper then Nvidia ones, and secondo: Nvidia was, is and will be the first in every new GPU technology ,the Nvdia GPU's are always more reliable , stable and efficient , the drivers are well programmed , many games uses Nvidia technology , so they are the leader of this market not by chance , and that's why many people recognize Nvidia more than AMD .........AMD only exist just to be the cheaper option .......
@@offlinegamer6756 hey mister big brain should i remembet you that the 5700 was made to compete with the 2060 and in less than a year they almost outperform the 2070super only with drivers update for 400bucks instead of 500+ for 2070 ? ^^
hmm... sorry but RTX 20 series is very much a beta test for Raytracing to force devs to start on RT. according to leaks from Moore's law is dead the upcoming RTX 30 series will have DLSS 3.0 that works on all games with TAA and 4x faster raytracing performance, meaning a 3060 would have the RT performance of a 2080ti. the RTX 20 simple wasnt the jump it could have been because Nvidia milked the market due to no competition.
I really really wanted an 2080 Super. I ended up getting the 5700xt on black friday for $250 Rakuten deal. I couldn't pass it up. With budget allowing I'll probably get an Nvidia card for my next build but that won't be for 4+ years. Thank you for the excellent review/testing.
That borderlands 3 result makes me happy since i bought the radeon for that game instead of the 2070s. Thats crazy that you can spend $100 less on a gpu and get better performance.
in most titles 2070s get better performance so your comment is kind of false, there are a few titles, like borderlands 3 like you just said that get better performance but how you put it is saying it gets better performance across the board
For me, I went with the 2070s because I have been burned by Radeon drivers too often in the past (They used to be REALLY bad). Granted, I haven't owned a Radeon card since AMD took over, but I still saw plenty of complaining about AMD drivers in 2020 when researching new hardware. Its worth the price for the peace of mind knowing that I am going to get quality drivers and support with an Nvidia GPU.
All the more reason to just wait until Fall for the new generation GPU's. AMD definitely holds the value crown, but we should finally be getting more performance per dollar from both teams. The 2000 series was very overpriced, and the 5700xt won't perform well in future titles.
Will probably end up buying the 2070 super too. Because nVidia's game drivers are the best in the business; they constantly release drivers that boost performance in various games, and they release innovative features like GameStream (playing your PC games streamed on your nVidia Shield or phone or tablet or TV), and FreeStyle (which lets you apply image enhancement processing in games, for example it makes GTA5 look like a 2020 title with amazing sharpness, HDR-style graphics, lively colors, etc), and RTX (which several games are locking themselves into even though there is generic raytracing now that Radeon supports too), and many innovative things such as DLSS (dynamically rendering a game at lower res and upscaling it via AI on the GPU to make it look almost as good as native 4K for example). I really don't think I can switch to AMD... nVidia's software components are just too great. Sure, the performance is similar, but the software is what takes nVidia to the top. Edit: But I am thinking of possibly dual-booting to Mac (hackintosh), in that case I need the Radeon GPU instead. Because a Radeon is natively supported by Macs but nVidia isn't... Hmm. :-) But if I only run Windows, the question is easy, nVidia is the better card and has the better software. Haven't decided yet. Edit 2: Okay after a bit more research, I will skip the Hackintosh. MacOS is really hard to run on AMD processors because it constantly requires recompiling the kernel to add AMD code since it's not an Intel CPU. And can break anytime. And the OS itself is decent and the apps are always beautiful on Mac, but I have used a Windows machine for a year now and really love how Windows 10 looks and how free I am to use any apps I want. Mac apps are really limited. I used a Mac from 2008 to 2019 and after getting used to Windows 10 I really don't miss it, except that apps look prettier on Mac. Meh. So nah, I will go with nVidia and keep using Windows only!
@@BenderdickCumbersnatch Let's see about that in a couple of years ... Friend got a GTX 650 and I got a R7 265 back in 2013. Guess which card became absolute and lags even on league of legends
