Raekwon on Calling Wu-Tang's Co-Founder Divine a "Piece of S***" (Part 24) 

FACTZ!

Exactly

this is true. But let's be real it's always better when Rae and Ghost link up with RZA

Rae admits that Immobility and Lex Diamond were subpar, which is why he had so much pressure when he made OB4CL2. He was literally at a point where his solo career was not looking good. Now Ghost on the other hand, is easily the most consistent member of the group.

Rae and Ghost are the best 2 in Wu

Book is great

@@elichisley3031 yeah I think I’m going to have to pick that one up

That makes one of us

Did you know he tried to molest Shyheim when he was a small boy? Then tried to have shyheim killed when shyhiem spoke out about it? Research it before you respond.

@@yungbfresh1 is that in his book?

SMH I take that back a couple episodes after they made a comedy out of obd addiction fuck this series

Word..

It’s the dude from the movie DOPE. GREAT ACTOR!

​@@raymondayala5355he's basically playing the same character as his role in The Get Down

don’t sleep on dave east as method , he did a 10/10 job

That's true idk why ppl gave U-God hell for doing the same, that's some fake fans energy

@@williamcapone5457 💪🏻

Agreed. He is the one EVERYONE respects… because he is respectable.

@@ErinDeNis Salute!

@@williamcapone5457 Cuz U-God, didn't have the same impact, like the other artists in the group, which is kind of sad, I kind of hate how they treat U-God in the show. He is just a delivery/message boy.

Tooooo funny and real🤐🤣😂

😂😂😂😂😂

st saying the truth about wu tang and nobody dosent want him to get interviewd by rza f that rat... check st interview

Yep

U GOD said it too in an VladTV interview.

Word

@@19zach75 I forgot about that one

A lot of them shits was wack like bro are u serious certain tracks woulda been way better if good production was behind it

After listening to Raekwon you start using words like “gems” and “darts” lol

Royce wants to rob us of all these legendary interviews because he feels that Vlad feeds of black people 's pain but not Oprah.

@@repentyasharahla7632 actually after listening to Wu I started using those words back in the 90s...let's not forget jewels either.

@@sibusisogumede94 he's not 100% incorrect, though. This interview aside, Vlad does disproportionately focus on black drama, beefs and traumatic experiences. I don't have a problem with that if he's willing to have an educated conversation on it...but often he isn't. He isn't equipped to talk about alot of it because he doesn't understand history or sociology nor does he have the lived experiences to relate.

THANJ YOU. Feel the same way.

What Album was he talking about was the "Ugly Baby"?

@@MrProfessional777 8 Diagrams

@@marcuseversley3334 I was searching for this answer, ty

Was still better than iron flag

My boy was doing business with Ghostface, i hung out with him during his martin sheckle beef. He was really cool

I just ran into Method yesterday at Staten Island mall and that was a lot. Had I ran I to the whole clan. I might have froze too lol.

They should hope on dem Daringer beats that Griselda be on

I think Masta Killa and Method Man have some room for improvement. Masta Killa has slowed his flow down sooooooo much. I almost fall asleep listening to him now. I wish he'd speed it up again. Method Man no longer uses that unique singing/rapping flow.

@@thedon0516 I rather hear Apollo brown

@@illdrumatik391 If Wu Tang ever decide to drop another album, they should recruit a large variety of producers. Madlib, The Alchemist, Erik The Architect , DJ Premier, Hitboy, Apollo, etc

No the Rza need to get his high heavenly ass back in the studio and record quality shit and get some in take while in the process they don’t need nothing else period

U have noo Idea how much that hit home and was felt !!!!!

True and so many of the Wu-Tang are amazingly gifted rappers but lazy bastards! How many clips have we seen of them being grumpy they have to turn up for an interview, or god forbid, a contracted tour date.

Complacency is a huge issue in life. It is tough to recognize and tough to move forward

Same shit happens in groups & bands outside of hip-hop 🤦🏽‍♂️

From somebody who’s been through that you ain’t lying at all. I have produced,engineered ,mixed, mastered, shot videos,, editing videos, promo etc. On top of that still had to deal with a bunch of Egos and know it alls. Talking about a headache.

Agreed!

First time u spoke some sense 🙌

Everybody's a legend.

Agreed

This is exactly what I came for. Down to the tee he got this man mannerism. Everything

Yeah ol boy is really playing the shit outta that role. Love the show

Don't "sha" me nigga!? WTf is this nigga doing from season 2 wu tang saga whwn divine had them sign contracts for 5 yrs lol..shameik moore is doing great justice to sha'allah raekwon the chefs persona..I love raekwon lingo and vibe by the way..his heart is like my dad. Solid but low key shiesty if they have to be but cool 80% of the time

Played that part the greatest , then it’s ghost face , forgot the actor name but both was 🔥🔥

@@rickellewilliams That episode had everybody fucked up 😂! RZA sounded like the Devil for some reason 🤔! “5 years?! The judge wasn’t give you 5 years BACK IN OHIO 🗣️!” To throw that shit in RZA’s face? If I was RZA I would’ve had to fight Rae you ain’t gonna throw my trouble situation in my face

You can cop it or not.

Whats the meaning of your comment? ​@@Saveyourbs

KNUCKLEHEADZ

Don’t play me like I got flower pot head

I gotta see that show in its totality

I love the show God, super clean no dark shit

Nah a lot of that story was made just for tv and didn't really happen. Other members spoke on it already

​@@pointreazonTV it's good

@@peachulemon Thank You

One for you One for me Two for you One-two for me.

Don't play me like I got a flower pot head. 🤣

lets get this caaaaaash

@@antfrancis9941 lol

I had the intro beat going on the entire time he was talking...

Reasonable? Bruh is dragging personal biz with a nigga he called his brother to promote a book in an interview with DJ Vlad “It bothers me when the gods get to actin like the broads”

Watch wu tang season 3 . This dude had a problem with master killa & ugod getting paid like the rest of the clan. Maybe you were the problem, not divine 🤔

Exactly. RZA made the best decisions for the group. Not everybody was pleased but you have to follow the leader.

@@r0mediddy right. I get why grown men wouldn't appreciate someone else making decisions for them but can you blame RZA? It's a thankless job having to make the tough decisions on what's best for everyone. I'm sure RZA knows they'll hate him for it but they can't say he wasn't right in the end

Rza would have been successful with any decent rappers! Most the wu would still be in the Staten Island projects only for Rza , dudes in nyc with hot lyrics are a dime a dozen believe me , you go to rikers and you got guys with hot bars spitting in the dorms

@@brianfitzpatrick9949 If that was the case why didn’t Rzas other groups ever blow up like the original group?

@@bobbyg3989 COMMON SENSE, THEY WASN'T PROMOTED WELL. EDUCATE YOURSELF ABOUT BUSINESS BEFORE TALKING

😂

Doesn't have to be. But it seems every time big money comes into mfs get greedy and big headed.

@@allreal3852 every last one of them. Last one now is like A.S.A.P. Mob but when was the last they did anything together? Like album wise.

@@parissaxton5094 back in 2017

Facts. Actually after Wu forever I stopped copping Wu albums..I copped cappadonna first album, and ghost face albums..after that, I checked out and I was a heavy Wu fan

🤯

That went over my head for years

Factoid

Biggie dissed ghostface for that verse on "kick in the door"

1 for you, 2 for me 😂

😂🤣yooooo same for me took a nigga back like 26years

@@waynemartin5784 legendary 🤣

​@@waynemartin5784yeah LOL, that Only Built For Cuban Linx s___

I bumped that album and the Saigon joint all through the summer and fall of '11... they held me down when I was struggling. '09-'11 were some tough years due to the Great Recession.

I liked it better than Cuban Links 2

@@Armando316 Cuban Linx 2 another greatly underrated album. It came out same day as Jay Z album I can't remember which one. I remember though because I actually listened to Cuban Links 2 before I ever heard the first Cuban Links lol

@@Omegaphats CL2 is super dope. Maybe one or two tracks I didn’t like but the rest was definitely fire.

@@Armando316 I was super late to the Wu but when it's timeless art it last forever

lmaooo Plug: 1 for you...2 for me.....2 for you....1,2,3 for me Ghost : Nigga I'll smack fuckers outta you Rae: This aint even enough grams over here

@@TheSupremeDunk all we need now is ghost coming back to vlad n detailing his stabbing talkin bout “niggas try to assassinate me”

@@losouknoso22 lmmfaooooooo exactly "I just seen 5 fiends around the nigga son"

@@TheSupremeDunk lmao 🤣

@@losouknoso22 talking about check what happened out of state 🤣

Throw some support. I'm half way through and it's fire.

@@stanspliff92 Oh I'm gonna get the hard cover,but If I was reading while chilling at the crib I could listen to the audio while driving to work and such

Solid joint

"Mike Tyson disciple, trifle wit my pen it's a rifle, 16 ways to shoot you through ya Chrysler, Duke..."

On God

It's very hard to top yourself off

The mafia dont respect him

Have you listened to much new hip hop? Not exactly difficult finding something awesome.

I feel you ,I went 13 years ago and I was very disappointed ! No meth or Capadonna and the show ended early …

They use examples from kung fu movies to explain things to the average fan. Their actual lives are built and based upon the teachings of the Nation of Gods and Earths. They know most people, like you, don't know about that and wouldn't get it. So they dumb it down for you to keep it entertaining.

@@bigstone1293 Actually my brother I know quite a deal about supreme mathematics As well as the nation of gods and earth

@@OXHAMMERSTONE_NYC then why would you comment the original comment first?

@@freddycabrera837 my original comment was meant to be surface level, shallow. I'm not going into the intricacies of supreme mathematics, symbolism, the black power movements and the nation, under a damn RU-vid video. That also doesn't mean that my original comment is untrue.

Venom Mob X Wu Tang

😂

@@divinediggs3659it seems like y’all stole tens of millions of dollars. Does math get a cut every time the Wu logo is used? Howd the members not see any Wu wear money? Why would transparent accounting be an issue if there’s nothing to hide? Are multiple members lying for decades straight about all these things?

Facts even Chicago as well with outside youngins using there lingo.

Divine is his brother, an brothers argue. But business is business & they stayed butting heads

BULLSHET POWER WAS PULLING MOST OF THOSE STRINGS. THEY SCARED TO SAY IN THE MOST PART

Isn't it funny how you say he is "real" but Raewkon can't tell you exactly WHY Divine is a "POS"?!! 🤔 But he can easily call him a POS! Smh RAEKWON seems mad that he was DUMB with his $! 🤷🏾‍♂️ They wanna smoke and live their life.........while others are putting in work! Then get mad when those working get paid! 🤦🏾‍♂️ Divine spoke on EVERYTHING and I believe Divine!

@@daddyfamlittle6262 Who created the title for this? It wasn’t Raekwon and he did state very clearly that there were times they said he was a cool guy who meant well, but other times it was business. Some people don’t require a lot of verbiage in order to get their point across. Re-watch the video if you missed a few things.

🤺

@@chillvibed Biscuits is a good one too.

Yeah 100! Me too

While I agree to a point, Wu definitely isn't the same, I don't agree with Rae 100% either. Because it's not like Shaolin vs Wu was so great either, nor did it really have that same style or feel. It sounded more like the albums before 8 Diagrams that he's complaining about. And it's not like any of the Wu members really have matched their old selves, exceptions being occasional Ghost or Meth, and actually Masta Killa's star shined a bit later than the rest. If I'm being 100, you could tell Rae's energy hasn't even been the same since Wu Forever. Not to say he hasn't made great songs and good albums, but you can even hear it in his voice, in his lyrics, in his demeanor, he doesn't have that same hunger. You could tell it's taken a lot of out of him and he's tired. Too much pride and drama between so many members makes it hard to function as a group, as much as they try. They would really all need to swallow their pride - ALL of them - and actually come together as a unit. But even then, their minds aren't where they were, and music isn't the same thing that it was almost 30 years ago. Wish it wasn't the case but sadly it seems true.

The only reason why I don't consider Wu Tang the best, is because I don't think they have as strong catalogue as other groups do. 36 Chambers is amazing, yes... But what about all of the albums that came out after that? As a group, they weren't able to keep up the quality. I disagree with the notion that Wu Tang in 2021 should be the same as Wu Tang in 1993 though. It would be boring as hell if they made the same music for three decades. I encourage artists to push the limits and try new things.

@@christopher399 oh definitely. I just mean you can tell the hunger and energy was lost along the line somewhere. Which happens to most artists, to be fair. I just think in context of Raes comments, it sounds like even in his own upset he had been reaching for the old sound that he hadn't been able to attain outside of wu either. I honestly put shaolin VS wu right next to the other wu albums that came out in that time period. Not better nor worse.

@@Zenno5 Plenty of artists manage to make quality music for decades. I don't think Wu Tang is among them... But members of Wu Tang are though. Ghostface Killah has been making pretty strong music for decades. Inspectah Makes good music with Czarface, but I don't think I'd care too much if it hadn't been for Czarface. I think that group brought him back to form. Method Man is ok, but I don't think he makes very good music. It's surprising. If anyone would've had a thriving solo career in Wu, I would've thought it was him. He just doesn't seem to be able to put together all that interesting albums, and his flow is ... It's ok now. He no longer uses that singing/rapping flow that made him so unique. U-God has picked up his pace too, these last few years. Raekwon was always the most boring to me, but if you liked him in the 90's, you'll like him now. Masta Killah has slowed his flow waaaaay too much for my taste. I feel myself dozing off whenever he raps. I wish he'd speed up his flow again. He has a good voice. RZA has been inactive as a rapper, but he never disappoints when he raps. I'm thrilled to see he is back to releasing new solo music again. I wish GZA did the same. He sounded like he was falling asleep on Pro Tools, but he's got his energy back again. Overall, I think Ghostface Killah has had a pretty strong solo career. He may have a few duds here and there, but then he'll return with a new album that is just awesome. He knows how to put together good albums. He is also not afraid of trying new things. If I had a say, I'd tell them to just forget Wu Tang and focus on making solo music. (And in Method Man's case... Maybe get someone onboard who knows how to put together a good album.) I'm actually a fan, by the way. I just don't blindly love everything they do. Call it tough love from a big fan. I've actually met several Wu members and affiliates! I have a few signed stuff from them, including Method Man and Masta Killa, who I give the toughest love to 🤣 I just want them to make good music! They have the talent for it. But they're not working together as a group, so just disband and focus on solo stuff. Maybe do a few Wu shows every now and then, but they are obviously not in the right place to make group music.

@@christopher399 just to add some clarification I don't expect them to be the exactly the same as in 93 because that would be impossible. They are older now and don't have that same youthful energy, drive and hunger they had 30. years ago. In order to have longevity Artists definitely have to change and evolve with the times but I think its also vital to keep certain aspects in place that captured long time fans those many years ago. Jay z is the perfect example of this. Jay still have that classic braggadocious, witty hustler Jay z energy but at the same time he still shows growth and maturity. I get where rza was coming from in wanting to make a more mature album i just think they missed the mark. Some words that comes to my mind when I think of early wu-tang is originality, creativity ,versatility, street and RAW. its nothing wrong with experimenting and adapting but it's still got to be raw and potent. That's wu-tang to me. If they don't have it in them like that anymore then I rather them not make an album over making a weak album any day. It would be dope if they could come together one last time and give the world a classic.

Golden arms delivery in that joint and the beat that track is hilarious