There in the backgrounds, two fleets of aircraft retired and sold with no logical reason. Both the Chileans and US Army thank us for our idiotic defence cuts.
@andy smedley Because our politicians only care and want whatever’s cheapest, they have no care about developing the best of British industries. So many poor decisions made by politicians!
The three EC135, Rivet Joint replaced the Nimrod R1, of which 3 were built, one being written off following an engine failure. A spare airframe was then brought up to R1 standard. The RAF Rivet Joints have been brought back to zero life and have new engines.
None of them are, or were, ex-USAF. The E-3 AWACS were bought new off Boeing's production line. The RAF's RC-135W Rivet Joints are new conversions of USAF KC-135R tanker airframes.
@andy smedley No idea, but the USAF RC-135s from Rivet Brass onwards were also converted from progressive KC-135 variants. The KC-135R itself is a re-engined version of the A, and some E models
@andy smedley I was responding to the earlier post that hinted that the RAF's AWACs and Rivet Joint aircraft were ex-US : the implication being that they were bought second hand from the USAF. They are all either new builds ( AWACS ), or new conversions from KC-135s ( Rivet Joints), as are American-operated Rivet Joints. None of the RAF's Rivet Joints had flown as Rivet Joints previously in USAF service - they were new conversions from KC-135Rs...same as the USAF's ones.
Que fea actitud por parte de chile, lo único q voy a decir, es que todo tiene un final, si san Martín, estubiera vivo, se daría cuenta, de que las cosas no son así, se dejan llevar por engaños, palabrerias de Inglaterra, pero bueno, lo único q me queda por decir, q cuando Inglaterra le de la espalda, argentina, los va ayudar como lo hizo en su momento, que dios los bendiga,y les de sabiduría, para q piensen las cosas , antes de actuar, y si an estudiado historia, Inglaterra quiso invadir argentina, pero así quedaron que tristeza me dan, q los países hermanos de suramérica, se traten de, perjudicar, en ves de juntarse y salir adelante , para q los de afuera no los coman
despues dicen de los argentinos soberbios. no hay un pueblo mas soberbio que el chileno, se llevan mal con toda sudamerica ni los ecuatorianos los quieren , con el tema del mundial, pestes hablaban de chile. estan peleados con todos ni los brasileros los quieren. el problema son ustedes no el resto.
Un argentino diciendole soberbio a otros ajajajjaj, hay encuestas echas y todos los latinoamericanos dicen que los mas soberbios son los argentinos, cheeee 👃
So we spent god knows how much on Nimrods only to have them scrapped under a disastrous spending review. Now we have US manufactured surveillance aircraft..!
The Tories scrapped two Nimrod variants. The AEW version because it didn't work, and the MRA4 as it was unproven and spectacularly over budget. They were probably right. Historically the Tories have scrapped more aircraft projects, five in 1957 alone. Labour scrapped the TSR2, again spectacularly over budget and tried to cancel Concorde, but couldn't because of the French Treaty. The Conservatives tried to cancel the English Electric Lightning, but were convinced it was already in production so they let that one go.
