i dont know if you realize this, when u use farming solo without with shield boomerang only, even it have 1.5 sec delay, when your char in state of waiting delay, the battle time is stop too, so there is no wasted farming time, the different only if you have the time to farm its okay to use SB then SC, because 300 minute RO using SB will end in about in 700+ minute realtime.
Your calculation is wrong on SB + 2 SC. IF SB 1st (1-sec cast delay) and 2x SC (1.5-sec cast delay each), and SB will end cooldown after all of the cast delays (in 4 seconds) and repeat the skill sequence. So if both meet at 12 sec, the formula is 1SB+2SC [3 times x SB (4-sec cooldown)+8 times x SB (1.5-sec cooldown)] VS 2SC [8 times x SB (1.5-sec cooldown)] 1SB+2SC [(3x134872)+(8x81481)] = 1,056,464 2SC [8x90191] = 721, 528
On a build for maximum damage, SC is better (like mvp hunting) while on a build for farming, SB is better because it spends less sp, that means maximum profit (using only sp discharge/meal sp recovery and chain). Thats what i think
In grinding wise the goal is to one hit the monster without using any food buffs (except warm meal) to save tons of zeny. And the combat time will be consumed only when you attack so one hit is the priority build no matter what damage skill you will use. So even there is a long delay the important factor will be the time you hit the monster, that will consume your combat time.
Wrong calculation SB + 2X SC does NOT take 7 seconds SB has a 4 sec cool down but only 1 sec cast delay. That means you can use SC after 1 sec from SB. This means you can do SB+2x SC in 4 seconds (1 sec from SB and 3 sec from 2x SC) And since the total time is 4 sec for sb + 2x sc that means after doing the combo your sb already finished the 4 sec coold down. Sb+2x Sc every 4 sec is stronger than pure 2x sc every 3 sec
But i should also point out that even if sb+sc is stronger than pure SC, you still get more total damage from getting more atk than vit since atk affects both SC and SB while vit only affects SB. Also even when using the SB+SC combo majority of the damage comes from SC since you cast it 2 times before the next SB so atk still wins over vit
I'd like to share my build.. and as far as I know, few pally is using this. This is my end build for pvp: (assuming job lv70) lv20 Shield Boomerang, lv20 Sacrifice, lv20 Spear Quicken. lv5 shield charge Rune Build: (Hierarchy) 1. Shield boomerang runes 2. +Vit Runes 3. 2 Endure Runes 4. Shield Charge Runes (Stun Rate, hit rate is optional) 5. Auto attack rune. Stat: All Vit 50~65 Agi (excluding add bonus) Rest is on Str Regarding build for hunting monsters. just specialize on 1 skill build (SB or SC). SC is better due to 1.5 sec cooldown. SB+SC (your guide) is the best, but I don't think its practical to go Hybrid just for leveling. Hope you could test the build in pvp mode (Im currently low level, but that's my end build in my head) What's best in sacrifice is that it doesn't miss... just maintain your distance and use shield boom for kill... shield charge if an LK is charging towards you (knockback and stun). Thank you!
Grinding ill go with SB type as SC have so much sp usage, you can 1 hit with no foods and no sp regen required with SB build. For boss hunt ill go with SC build paired with cast delay foods for spamming. For PVP ill go with VIT-INT SB+Heal Build or VIT-AGI Sacrifice build. My paladin have 600k hp in pvp and 30k sacri damage per hit still no pvp cards on my weapon.
Please dont ask us WHAT DO YOU THINK? Why we subscribe to you because we need to learn and give us the best build ever overall!. Your the teacher and were student. We ask you? What is the best build and stat for us? What do you think teacher?
I prefer SB. You are tanky, hit hard, and since SB is ranged you can get to mobs before knights, sins and smiths. But to each their own. Also i've been planning on exploring agi-crit crus but don't have resources for it. Hope you can do it in my place and that you give GC build another look as well; just don't go full Str-Int like you did last time, had fun with it farming in the culverts.
with SB you take advantage of hitting big chunks at long distance for pvp.. for pvm yeah its shield chain over a limited stamina. :) thanks always helpful !!
while SB build will force you to max your stat into VIT, Goibne's set for gear, and race/element cards SC build will force you to have a lot of SP discharge and high amount of atk from runes, pray, and even handbook besides from the gear (since you don't have a self damage buff ) but i'll still prefer for SC, since SC can be the most efficient grinding build if you're grinding at the right spot (and using chain is a must)
retribution vs spear mastery di christmas cookie, retribution lebih memberikan efek besar ke christmas cookie dibanding spear mastery. rekomendasi testing SB VS SC dengan compare masing2 gan, SB= Spear Mastery full+Retribution Full+Rune Cavalary+Ignoredef+Retribution. same as to SC for compare. mungkin bisa dibuatkan videonya gan
Iya, Retribution malah ngefek nya ke shield boomerang.. Kalo Shield Chain pengaruh nya lebih dari Spear Mastery.. Kemaren abis dicoba.. Masalahnya perhitungan nya agak susah~
SB was meant to give full support/tank Paladins something to fight back with after investing everything into VIT and INT. I don't think it was ever meant to be amazing damage wise. IMO you should play Paladin to its strengths (tanking and healing) and leave DPS to LK and Sniper.
this comment has a point too. By using a full VIT equips, you can sustain a decent amount of dmg using SB and a perfect amount of HP to receive dmg while tanking or if you are just focus on Devotion to someone. Plus, You are capable of farming SOLO or even trying to roam around and kill some minis/Mvp. (Maybe)
I look at it this way, SB is meant for tank pally, especially those pure tank like myself to deal some damage or help out on grinding without needing reset, hence it's a "tank's skill" instead of being a skill designed with dps in mind, Shield Chain on the other hand, is for a physical damage paladin dps, which imo SHOULD be inferior to an LK, especially Pierce built. While Shield Chain is obviously more dps oriented, its comparatively high sp consumption make it an ability that need extra investment on sp regen, especially for a physical damage dealer. If a paladin go str and int and dex just to have the attack and sp regen, then i think he should just go HC/GC build, who deal more damage with gear to enhance it, or else, i think Shield Chain is kind of near to the region of hybrid paladin tank instead of being dps oriented or tank oriented, because, it's inferior for both end (pure dps vs pure tank). As dps, only advantage of it over say HC and GC is its range, personally i have not test and compare, but i think HC would deal more damage than SC especially with gear and Providence? I always feel SC is an odd skill in an odd phase of paladin, do considered that the prerequisite of this skill is a skill that need vit, and it unlock another vit based skill, it would only be making sense if it's also based on vit. I know it's been on contention for best skill of pally, but personally its my least favourite.
I think.. you're doing a great job pumping out paladin content! My thoughts are relying on shield chain for grinding with SB as backup, both ideally 1hitting xmas cookies. Im still curious to see if we are capable of mvp-ing. Keep it up! :) -a fan from SEA.
Shield Boomerang only better if it can give at least 2x SC damage.. Which I think is impossible.. The only reason I use Shield Boomerang only for its Distance.. Really good when we are competing in Mini-Boss Hunt
The only downside for s chain is the sp cost, I think having both is somehow cool, I'm also experimenting but after seeing your video I wanna experiment more
Hi papi currently lv98/job63. I often use SC for damage/farm/boss hunts and when tanking I prefer to use SB. Using both at the same time seems a waste of skill points to me. Since the skills you need for each build differs a bit. But as always to each their own preference I hope to see more of your videos. Been watching since my Crusader days :)
Again nice build papa, but my concern is in PVP my SB will seldom hit snipers and assassins (mostly snipers for some reason) so to counter this i have my DEX at 80+ and i plan to max it out to 99. I know that STR is important for final sb and sc dmg but how can I counter the flee rate of other jobs? Ps. You are my idol papa, ive been a fan of yours for awhile now:)
Use sacrifice. It is very effective against agi type character. It ignores def and flee. But you need to sustain your hp. Coz sacrfice also damage your own hp.
Its obvious since i started play 4 weeks ago. Shield boomerang CD kill the skill. The name of the game its kill in 12 s. But the true end game build its holycross grand cross i think its the skills with most potential to damage increase, similar to bash pierce etc.
Bro, I'm a pala level 87, I'm looking for a good way to make zenny . For leveling I use SB to oneshot punks . But as sou know punks aren't the best place to zenny farming . Which build and which mobs do you recommend? Btw I play in global server , and my job is 28 I think (I've multijobed to LK sometime) , oh and I've Ymir's book
SP nya bocor papa kalo pake SC, spend 100rb zenny buat bikin 1 star food cuma tahan 200 menitan kalo menurut saya sih SB lebih ke paket ekonomis (low cost gear+ low cost SP=not so low damage output) , sedangkan SC lebih ke complete set (tier end gear+ high cost SP= high damage output) kalo SC build nya separo separo ngga bakal maksimal (pengalaman damage kecil yang ada buang buang sp )
Sc > sb because in the end game paladin's atk might reach 5k or more and thats why sc is more superior, its very hard to invest in vit than atk even though lvl15 sb relies on atk, its only 100% atk. For now you can say that sb is very strong because it relies on vit but when you get to the max lvl, where will you get additional vit? Cards, equips? It's not enough, unlike atk you can get it almost everywhere especially in food buffs most of them gives atk not vit, so in the end sc for the win. Just my opinion :)
For pure farm i think sb is better since it require nothing to sustain the attack while sc require at least hotdish/food stack but for everything else sc is better than sb. Well hc agi will demolish all of them tho
I usually went SB, currently lvl 81 and grinding against dark priest and such with a damage around 20k+. But i have a small mistake, i mean i shouldve went int or dex than getting str
Ya jatuh nya kayak build yg di video sih.. Soalnya stat nya cuma muter2 di STR ama VIT.. sisa nya di equip.. Ending nya ya tetep keliatan nyolok banget kalo Shield Chain better daripada Shield Boomerang..
I dont think SB will really go well with SC. It should be paired with sacrifice for pvp as sacrifice is almost vit based as well (hp based really) I use shield boomerang for farming. For mvp hunting yeah shield chain For pvp i think sacrifice and shield boomerang does better than shield boomerang and shield chain And even for farming - warm and hot meals is not enough for SC farming. You need at 50k worth of food as well.
kalo gw sih masi di build agi crit pap, masih nabung buat ngikut full build sc/sb.. ntar pas modal sudah cukup baru ikutin build sc/sb. Tapi menurut gw pribadi, mendingan sc sih, kalo diliat dari delay & cooldownnya. Sb 4 detik termasuk lama & gak worth dipake farm zeny/material :(, meskipun modalnya ga banyak cuman main pake vit/str dish A buat pump damage & equip vit yg dipake ngetank sehari2... But overall, nice guide pap, bisa gw pertimbangin pake sb + sc buat farm. Love yuuu (*˘︶˘*).。.:*♡
SB is best friend for poor paladin! Basic goibne set, mirror shield, proper amount sp dis and element converter, and we will last forever on the field 😂
entah kenapa kok SC ku sama SB gedean SB. rune SC sih masih 2, dibandingin sama SB yg ud 5. dan kill monster pun SB bisa 1x, SC butuh 2x baru mati. akhirny ambil SB dlu dah nunggu rune
My Vote goes to SB.. if you are going to sustain you dmg with foods, try using 6pcs -2.50% cast delay in SB and see for yourself who has the best dmg per seconds. 👌 Another informative video of a Paladin from you PV. Please dont stop exploring the paladin's full potential. Goodluck!
The best: 1 hit KO SC - 1 hit KO SC - 1 hit KO SB (save sp + good range to steal mob) 2nd best : 1 hit KO SC........ forever. (waste more sp only but kill speed same as above) 3rd best: 2 hit KO SC - 1 hit KO SB 4th best : 1 hit KO SB (4 second delay is too much of a waste to stamina) Card in weapon either Desert wolf card (Does not affect SB but SC is ok) or Orc Skeleton Card (+20% dmg to holy mob) If you are rich: Change ivory (2) to holy dagger (2), you can save more food cost on long run. Finally: When farming for zeny, always consider what are the food cost (Str meal B? Alloy? Converter?). You may earn 1m++ zeny per day (after selling items) from cookie but if you have to consume all those food, at the end it will be better if you can farm at other places which yield less zeny but you don't have to consume any expensive food. The advantages to farm at toy factory is edelweiss which can give you more fortune if you're lucky.
