Railroad Impact Wrench vs Everything! 

Have you ever tested a hydraulic HyTorq? We used them in a mining company to tighten crusher nuts.

@@TheRoadhammer379 They only work in forward though :(

How about an OBR 57cc twin cylinder. Or a Taylor rc 88.

Get one of the larger Holzforma / Farmertec saw powerheads like the 92cc G660, a direct clone of the Stihl MS660. Avoid the large 100+cc saws as they make torque, not RPM. There's plenty of aftermarket performance parts and data available for the Stihl MS660 should you want to push it further. Or if you just want to go full F N fuckin' nuts - Honda CR250 dirtbike motors are commonly used for open class hot-saws, but that might be a bit much for the impact mechanism...

@@TorqueTestChannel The ones I've used you can flip the guts over to loosen. They are expensive though. I believe you can rent.

That was my 1st thought. But it IS just 46.5cc, our 1/2" milwaukee is 60cc. My caveman brain just takes over

@@TorqueTestChannel cc's dont mean power. 50cc in mopeds in the netherlands make 20hp+ it's all in the tuning. Pipe and flow

I agree get the most out of that motor before you ditch it, my 30cc chainsaw woke up from just opening the exhaust a tiny bit

As a certified stihl mechanic, that wont really help as much as you think

They also most likely use a standard piston so you might be able to get a big bore kit and port that jug and keep the stock one

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Found the useless engineer with no actual hands on experience lol. Theres also no way in hell youre running trains worth any sort of a weight 24/7 and only doing maintenance twice a year. Its impossible with the amount of shit that can go wrong with a track, anything from sun kinks, track wash outs, broke track or joints, rotten or broken/missing ties, literally worn out track, broken track bolts, debris on the track, broken signal wires, the list goes on. But hey I guess finland is some fucking futuristic utopia where basic fucking common sense doesnt need to be found. No wonder the world hates Europeans. Also I have literally repaired these gas powered track bolters and they are a disaster to work on. The recoils get ripped off constantly. The anvil gets shattered, the exhausts fall off. The RAILROAD TRACK MAINTENANCE AND REPLACEMENT company I worked for as a hd mechanic (not some fucking paper pushing engineer with an unscratched hard hat and clean safety vest) hated gas powered bolters and rail saws. I managed to convince them to abandon them infavour of rigging up the TFO up with an inverter and 2 batterie chargers, with the big milwaukee 1". Fk mixing gas, fk fixing ripped off recoils, fuck changing fouled plugs or draining the respective tanks of the wrong oil/gas, fuck warming the rig up for 5 mimutes before each job. You grab the milwaukee and a battery off the charger / storage rack, hammer the bolts and go. I fuckin hate engineers that talk out their ass rofl. None of his argument made sense. Its a logistical nightmare trying to get 50/50 2 stroke gas in the middle of the fucking mountains as opposed to buying a new battery maybe every year or two when one gets weak. I swear engineers talk just to hear them selves talk

hErE iN fInLaNd, you dont use a fucking bolter for 12 hours straight even on jointed track. Youd use a thunderbolter or something specifically for that, not a gas bolter

You dont even know what fuel this takes. Its not "a can of gas"

@@AbsurdlyIncredible lmao you seem mad about something

@@AbsurdlyIncredible the mans english isnt that good so give him a lil break

Yeah I work on the railroad, though notably not as a railworker or maintainer, but I have noticed a move towards just using battery powered impacts. I more assumed it was for safety with being able to hear the radio or the fact they can charge extra batteries in the utility trucks.

This guy, he sounds like he knows his shit.

I'll second whatever you just said because that gibberish sounds accurate and fun.

knowledge is power

They dont rly need torque , they need rpm

@@robivlahov ok, well they can change the gearing then. More torque will drive higher gear ratios.

Sounds plausible, but only for tightening not loosening.

As a function of physics that doesn't strike me as plausible. There's a 41% gain between 5 sec and 10 sec, assuming the same gain on the 15 sec it should be ~1,550. The setup needs adjustment imo

If idiot proofing is even possible, some one is alway s willing to Tim Taylorize things!

The whole tool looks like it was built with the 300lb gorilla in mind tbh, make it bomb proof and do one thing for a long time, it's a good model.

@@jttech44 It better does given the price. 3600$ really is a lot for such a simple tool imho, even for a professional one.

Just as long as you're not the pivot in that circus jerk :)

Yes, those rooms can be valuable resources at times.

What Makita exactly are you using now, might suggest it at work cos the 2strokes we have suck ass

@@DaSpineLessFish the 3/4 one in the end line-up of the video

I was never impressed with the 2 stroke impacts. They are expensive and the gearboxes are rather fragile for something made for railroad use. I've tossed 4 or 5 of them in the dumpster over the years, due to failed gearboxes. They just weren't cost effective to repair. We use the Milwaukee 1" drives now, but I'd be very interested in seeing the Makitas work. They seem to be smaller and lighter. Might be a very viable option.

@@evanmarvel8064 cheers mate

Most tools will happily run on the air supply on a wrecker and the truck as well.

Yeah, 3/4 is pretty accessible, light and easy to use, even just Milwaukee mid torque ones aren’t slouches in a heavy industrial setting.

@@Folsomdsf2 for a few seconds a minute.

@@randymagnum143 Most wreckers have a decent size tank and an air compressor to run air tools.

@@Folsomdsf2 most truck compressors are about 10 cfm at high rpm, with a 25% duty cycle. A good 3/4 impact is 14 + cfm. You'll get a few ugga duggas, then a smoke break.

Well call me a agriculturalist then ~adds to cart~

"Only YOU can prevent wildfires". A sorely missed statement in the western US.

They're extremely underwhelming. Marketing hype as per usual from Elon. Can get the same weed burner from Harbor Freight for $28, just not in gun form.

Are the back-back variety kerosene style spray 40 feet then ignite variety legal? Asking... for a friend

@@TorqueTestChannel in most states yes it is. if you live in California or Maryland no it's not.

I was thinking the same, but they want to hold it in one hand, maybe 2. I doubt this is a practical build. Great idea, though 😈

No way.... A Dorito engine doesn't make anywhere near the torque of a piston engine. 👎 This thing needs TORQUE, not RPM's..

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​@@RexinOridlebeat me to it. Only by 4 months.

v8 swap pussy

That's why they stock up on shmoo leak and smear it all over your drain plug.

I winced when I saw impact gun and oil drain plug in the same sentence

But it's only $19.95 and 8 minutes of your valuable time! "You bring in car, we have fun, no??"

Especially on the 3406/C15 Cat engines.

or Grind Hard Plumbing Co. That'd be pretty cool. They make some gnarly stuff in a well equipped shop.

twostrokestuffings is the one he should collaborate with

@@zcalex7660 No, just no....that guy cant keep his stuff running for more than a few seconds after YEARS of work.

@@Two-StrokeLife that's what happen when you innovate 😅 go look at his old content he definitely knows what he does.

It's not a pissing match. I was just throwing out a guy who knows things AND has a way of measuring it. There are a billion two smoke porters and builders. I'm sure many of them are good.

Yeah, they didn't compare to a "standard" shop air tool. Also the 18 wheeler road side tire guys take a "standard" shop air tool + a compressor with them to the job.

One of the main cool things about ICE tools like this is you can hotrod them! Cordless tools, every says "throw a $250 battery on it!" for like 15 extra ft-lbs. Engines, the skies the limit often for less money (until it turns into confetti at WOT of course).

@@TorqueTestChannel I love it. As we say with our cars “stock sucks”

@@TorqueTestChannel I remember I had a battery powered train C-Cells in the coal car with a barrel jack connection to power the motor. If you used a power brick that plugged into the wall that thing could really move. Should be possible to get more out of the electric impacts with a better power source. Just run it directly of a portable generator and bypass the battery? Possible perhaps.

For 3600$ you can get a shit load of batteries 😅

@@tessierrr and he's also more likely to be able to get the electrical impact serviced if something happens. who knows how he would get that gas powered impact serviced if something went wrong.

@@smurfx motor wise any small engine repair and they can prolly handle the hammer assembly as well.

@@smurfx literally anybody who services chainsaws or weed whackers can service this thing.

You know how to build loyal customers. Anytime someone seriously invested in a company recommends I go elsewhere for my needs I know that I WILL return for future needs. Anyone who spends real money on their tools values not being jerked around. Reliable advice is valuable.

I’ve only ever seen Lewis screws hammered back in at crossings, never realized they use these for those 😂 however saying that I’m only a mechanic on the crew

Jesus what impact do you have that a battery lasts 30 seconds? Modern impacts last a very long time on a full battery.

@@lost4468yt I have the new 1 inch pistol handle milwaukee. They don't last 30 seconds in regular use but if you have it on full power and beat on a tie screw that is stuck stuck in something like an old oak tie it drains real quick. I think it does some sort of overheat protection.

@@Magic_pancake355 I don't know how it's done in the US but here in Sweden we absolutely use these to screw all the screws down. Hammering in the screws is a emergency measure when the tie is already ruined and you just need that shit back together.

@@minecraftbers Milwaukee's do have overheat protection so they dont burn themselves up like some harbor freight cordless impacts will. Though from my experience milwaukee drills and impacts take a lot longer than 30 seconds to overheat. Though the task I was doing as a bit different. Trying to drill through a 12 inch cinderblock wall with a dull concrete bit and our boss was too cheap to go get a new bit.

"Today we got a rusty railway impact with the big 4-8. Even impact wrenches aren't safe from broken exhaust manifold studs it seems" ~Comes back covered in fluid film

@@TorqueTestChannel 🐑😂

Don't worry. We'll supe her up with brake kleen and few tricks from mee-maw :p

$36k, think he's gonna need a few more subscribers for that.

Do you work in the mining industry? I work in heavy industry and I've only heard stories about those huge IR impacts, never seen one in person.

@@NP-rh3dt They gotta put the nuts on those dump truck wheels somehow

@@NP-rh3dt Could be off-shore windturbines screwed to their bases, or electricity pylons.

I hope you have all the adapters so you can go down to a 1/4 drive 3/16 socket.

fuck it, slap a snail on

Bo need, it will beat the electric one after the first half hour, because it will be dead battery time.

@@jasonbourne1596 buying replacement batteries is still cheaper than 3600 dollars tho, and carrying five of them is still probably lighter than 45 pounds ngl

@@Hold3n916 I don't think 6 batteries will last even 3 hours, much less a 12 hour work day that's probably happening a lot.

@@jasonbourne1596 I’m so tired of kids thinking electricity is the magic solution to gas powered machines with our current technology. Honestly exhausting

not familiar with 2 strokes, can you port and bore them out like a car engine? i really hope they hotrod the shit out of this thing and send it to the moon

Haha! I was about to suggest a spicier fuel as well

Milwaukee Valve also makes some nice products. Def a good company if it's important that a valve doesn't fail

Or there's just a ball and spring in the drive that holds it on..

@@davelowets Yes, up to 3/4”- 1” drive usually. Bigger than that, in my experience, is the pin and o-ring style retaining method.

This is wise. I frequently deal with the sockets flying off the 1" D-handle pneumatics and those 2.5" - 3" sockets have a lot of mass and energy when they come flying off! Removing yoke bolts from a diesel driveline needs serious power. But using those guns when you're scrunched up between the differentials is scary business.

@@keamu8580 Crank pulley bolts on fire truck engines are fun too.. ever hooked up a torque multiplier to a torque multiplier to a 6 ft breaker bar? When something finally gives it’s like a grenade blast!

@@beerggls When we want a grenade blast, we use ether to bead up the 24.5" tires. Probably the most dangerous thing we deal with is stabbing the transmissions and differential cores, and changing brake drums, lots of chances to lose fingers or toes. Sure there's occasionally a motor mount bolt that needs 2 or 3 guys working a cheater pipe on a breaker bar and another guy hitting the nut with acetylene, but that's rust for you. We haven't really worked with any super plus size engines, heavy mining equipment, etc.

I got a video of the gas post hole driver does well just big and bulky. I use it to drive through hard Missouri clay with rocks. Yes this is an eBay special

@@1pcfred Petrol breakers are surprisingly competent, I've got a 50lb and it's plenty serviceable on the rock around my property. These days, if you need more than a 60, you're gonna use an excavator mounted hydraulic.

Add a pipe to the motor and Nitrous

Expansion chamber or go home.

@@ferrumignis I don't disagree, but this mod is fast, easy and free. An expansion chamber would definitely help out and look, sound and everything badass. 👍🏼

Bolts*. Nuts go on the end of the bolt...

exactly, make it idiot proof . I expect the fasteners used on railworks are all speced the same coz derailment is not an option and a major PITA

Yes it’s set at a certain torque setting due to the fact that the track bolts are soft and not hardened steel and to not strip the threads

@@1pcfred My Train of Thought is easily Derailed.

Yah, they'll find a problem with the gearing afterwards as it's tuned to be 'run it till it's good and move on'.

Bumping you for the algorithm

Electric motors have a lot of torque but this is probably limited by other factors than the motor tbh. In theory your cembre can deliver almost 2000ft lbs(it doesn't). A simple look at the actual gearbox shows it caps out at 1300 in operation which is probably a design limitation to avoid causing damage to bolts.

The MS500i is pretty awesome too. It's fuel injected so its throttle response is great. That's really saying something in the chainsaw world where keeping the chain speed high is the name of the game.

V8 swap

Yep like the chainsaw guys 😅

I support this , V8 would rly bring it to life : D

im sure everyone wants to see a v8 impact. it would definitely brake some things but think of the views.

Nah... More speed will give more torque

Yeah that'd be really cool. Although getting your hands on one right now would run you $30k since they only "sell" the dev kits right now. Quite a bit of money for such a small engine.

One of the high energy rail guns from Quake. (showing my age lol)

I think he was trying to test these "out of the box" to mimic "real world" on the job experiences with these tools, rather than test them with modifications.

Woudnt mind a K swap either 😅

What would you torque with that? Everything.

I came to comment ls, I have been beaten, so I raise you a 2jz or an EJ if you don't mind the head gaskets lol

And the gas gun would be susceptible to bad gas or a bad mix. Because we all know small 2 stroke engines are not temperamental at all 😂. But you shouldn't put one gun at a detriment just to make the other shine. Whether dinosaur ugga duggas or angry pixie ugh duggas, they both have their places, and one won't really replace the other in their designed roles.

The engine will start to overheat if you run it too hard for too long, just like with a weedwhacker

@@chrisdavidson911 chinese weedwhackers will overheat, but stihl or husquarna or other good brands wont, you can run them wide open all day

That's what she said.

Lets be honest, that is the "reason" everyone have always used for older tech. The question is how many batteries/day would you need to charge? How many can you rotate on a generator for faster refill? Its lighter, and for 3600 you can get a few batteries to start out ;)

5 months into the future/future man here along with good pal Marty. Ummm, batteries are now insanely cheaper than any form of gas! Get out while you can!!!