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RAIN! Circling Approach and ATC, Cessna Citation Landing Saint Louis Downtown Airport 

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Cessna Citation Encore landing at the Saint Louis Downtown Cahokia airport. Due to winds and ceilings we plan on an ILS approach with a circle to land. The weather is quickly changing and we are flying in and out of rain showers. Includes ATC communications.
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@mmichaeldonavon
@mmichaeldonavon 5 лет назад
I missed Mike. FO had, IMHO, way to much chatter. Nice video Captain Jim. Thanks.
@stevestumbaugh8982
@stevestumbaugh8982 6 лет назад
Your side kick seems to be a know it all.
@BossaNossa1
@BossaNossa1 8 лет назад
Oh!, I love it "Hang a right!" @5:16 that is classic! :)
@gregellis3859
@gregellis3859 8 лет назад
A textbook circle to land at minimums. Nicely done!!!!
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+Greg Ellis thanks Greg.
@farmerjohn7765
@farmerjohn7765 8 лет назад
Another textbook example of some quality flying in IMC. Hope you have a very Merry Christmas and a wonderful New Year, Capt.
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+Capt John Thanks Captain, like the new profile picture.
@Newstatejournal1
@Newstatejournal1 8 лет назад
That was one of the better aviation videos I have seen on youtube. Watching you two work through a judgement decision as you work together to position that airplane where it needs to be, really reveals the value of having two pilots.
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+New State Journal Thanks, it was very kind of you to say that.
@jbkroeger
@jbkroeger 7 лет назад
Sure enjoy your videos moonbeam. I was ATC for 8 years (4 radar & 4 tower) @ MacDill AFB 75-83...sure brings back some good memories! Thanks for the share.
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 7 лет назад
thanks James.
@TheAussiePipe
@TheAussiePipe 8 лет назад
I've always felt the circling approach is one of the most dangerous things you can do in aviation. Handled like true pro's, well done indeed! Cheers Mark
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+Cirrus Driver I agree, always better to opt for the ILS.
@8688nick
@8688nick 7 лет назад
FO was a cocky chap
@halleventhal1088
@halleventhal1088 8 лет назад
Awesome video.! merry Christmas Jim and family.
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+Hal Leventhal Thanks Hal and a very merry Christmas to you and yours also.
@anthonyl819
@anthonyl819 8 лет назад
Your FO was incredibly wrapped up over that weather and had quite a bit of extraneous talk. Otherwise nicely executed.
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+Anthony L Thanks Anthony.
@SuperSetright
@SuperSetright 7 лет назад
Posted the same higher up.
@explorationguys7858
@explorationguys7858 4 года назад
This is one of your best videos! It really shows what goes on with ADM in IMC, and how you can really use the system to your advantage. I've had the pleasure flying into CPS. (only VFR) you get a great view of the Arch flying base to 12R! -Jeremy
@bkrichmd
@bkrichmd 8 лет назад
A lot of frustrating issues in this approach. First the weather, it just doesn't know what it wants to do and hard to make a decision. Then the ATIS, they could have taken the "I" out for lack of good information. Then how about that taxi clearance before you were even slowed to taxi speed. But you handled it like a pro, well done.
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+Brian K Rich MD Thanks Brian. These were fast moving low layers and showers. There would be a big hole and by the time you got there it would be gone.
@garrettmtemple
@garrettmtemple 8 лет назад
Earned your check on that approach
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+Garrett Temple I was hoping you said I was going to get a raise for that one.
@garrettmtemple
@garrettmtemple 8 лет назад
+captmoonbeam I've see you do tougher landings
@BossaNossa1
@BossaNossa1 8 лет назад
What a visual of the water streaming over the windshield cool stuff from my perspective sitting in my desk chair... You on the other hand have your hands full!!! Thanks for the video's and stellar flying!
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+BossaNossa1 You're welcome
@hesynergy
@hesynergy 8 лет назад
Beautiful crew coordination...exciting to re-acquaint myself with with a circle to land!... I had forgotten just why circling to land existed… Minimums for one. Thanks a bunch guys! Chas
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+hesynergy Thanks lots!!
@geoffeg
@geoffeg 8 лет назад
Nicely done, great to see the CRM on the circling approach.
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+Geoffrey Gallaway thanks.
@ota2012
@ota2012 8 лет назад
One of yours best and interesting videos! And landings also! Thanks and happy holidays!
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+Ota Vio Thanks Ota Vio.
@erikvanname
@erikvanname 8 лет назад
It's great to see these full approaches in IMC. Thanks,
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
Thanks Eric.
@berniemccann8935
@berniemccann8935 5 лет назад
Great camera angle.
@pilotodecaca3595
@pilotodecaca3595 8 лет назад
Thank so much! Best regards from south Brazil
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+Piloto de Caça Your welcome. Hope your having great flying weather in Brazil today.
@farmerjohn7765
@farmerjohn7765 8 лет назад
Thanks, Capt Jim!!
@StacyTiptonLightSportPilot
@StacyTiptonLightSportPilot 8 лет назад
Well done sir and Merry Christmas!!!
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+Stacy Tipton Light Sport Pilot Thanks and a very merry Christmas to you Stacy.
@timh294
@timh294 8 лет назад
Your videos are amazing. this is my first posted comment ever, my children have to show me how to do this I'm old school, but I do have a private pilot license and love watching your videos thank you. can't stop watching them, keep up the good work thanks again.
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+Tim H thanks Tim. appreciate the kind words. Don't worry I'm old school too. I had to get one of my fans working line service in Dallas to explain Instagram to me.
@d.j.robinson9424
@d.j.robinson9424 7 лет назад
copy that tower, have a wonderful weekend.
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 7 лет назад
You do the same and try to stay warm.
@neilgusthart828
@neilgusthart828 8 лет назад
Nice landing it's been a long wait for this one nice to see you back.
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+Neil Gusthart Thanks Neil.
@stevehobbs864
@stevehobbs864 8 лет назад
Well done
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+steve hobbs thanks Steve But, it takes a crew of two. I gotta give Scott half the credit.
@mmichaeldonavon
@mmichaeldonavon 7 лет назад
Went back to watch your video. "Stuff" sure happens fast at those low altitudes and fast speeds. Great vid. Thanks.
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 7 лет назад
Things do get busy once we're in the terminal area.
@stevenfavignano2632
@stevenfavignano2632 8 лет назад
Love the camera location! Always learn a lot here. Merry Christmas Jim and family.
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+Steven Favignano Thanks Steven. Not every one agrees with that but, I think this angle gives a much better feeling for what the pilot is actually seeing. If the camera is centered between the pilots then moved back where you can see the crew then, it's not the same as what the crew experiences. It's more like a passenger view from the bench seat. In the Citation we have large windshields and have a broad unrestricted view of what's in front of us and to the side. Hope you guys have a great Christmas. I just got home after 5 days of running and am looking forward to the holiday.
@embrj1453
@embrj1453 8 лет назад
Awesome...
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+Marcelo Delima Thanks Marcelo.
@johndog71
@johndog71 8 лет назад
You Guys assimilate things fast, very impressive.
@bkrichmd
@bkrichmd 8 лет назад
+John Mahoney yeah they do, they move through it and make quick and good decisions.
@johndog71
@johndog71 8 лет назад
Just another day at the office Brian
@kreativeflicks
@kreativeflicks 8 лет назад
This video sealed the deal... New subscriber! Great vid!
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+B Kreative Happy to have you here.
@markbrown2450
@markbrown2450 8 лет назад
That was exciting.
@kennethbratvogel2333
@kennethbratvogel2333 8 лет назад
Perfect-- Happy Hoiday from a Lindbergh and UMSL Grad
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+Kenneth Bratvogel Happy Holidays Ken. Always happy to see someone with a Saint Louis connection here.
@elenacolon3880
@elenacolon3880 7 лет назад
wow! captain moonbeam what a perfect landing
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 7 лет назад
Thanks Elena.
@dfkendrick
@dfkendrick 8 лет назад
I love the back and forth conversation, Jim. Very interesting stuff.
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+Don Kendrick Thanks Don. You guys have a good Christmas.
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+captmoonbeam this got me thinking. Most of the aviation cockpit videos on RU-vid have no ATC/Crew audio. The ones that do a lot of times don't really have any discussion of field conditions or planning.
@dfkendrick
@dfkendrick 8 лет назад
+captmoonbeam Merry Christmas to You and you're Family too, Jim.
@dfkendrick
@dfkendrick 8 лет назад
+captmoonbeam I found the back and forth between you guys very interesting. More of that would be great.
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+Don Kendrick Thanks Don.
@douglasshaw8754
@douglasshaw8754 7 лет назад
Ho yes another great landing Jim all the best Doug In Uk.
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 7 лет назад
thanks Doug.
@paultaylor9939
@paultaylor9939 7 лет назад
Magic flight well flow the both of you cheers
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 7 лет назад
Thanks.
@joeycarrion8017
@joeycarrion8017 8 лет назад
Great video, and great job... Thanks!
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+Joey Carrion thanks Joey.
@bigd-1-channel514
@bigd-1-channel514 8 лет назад
Slick, Real Slick guys
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
Thanks M2r DDD
@bigd-1-channel514
@bigd-1-channel514 8 лет назад
I have another question for you. You had an older video, you had a call-sign of N2Q, you said they are hard to get, so you keep it when you go to another A/C. SO Just how do you acquire such a short N number. you never really got into details.
@ronalds2080
@ronalds2080 7 лет назад
wow, nice job getting under that ceiling capt.! I would have had white knuckles.! lol
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 7 лет назад
thanks Ronald.
@ibtm
@ibtm 8 лет назад
Great video!!!! Merry Christmas!!!!!
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+ibtm thanks and a merry Christmas top you.
@alexanderbejermyr6620
@alexanderbejermyr6620 8 лет назад
Great video sir and nice landing sir
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+Alexander Bejermyr Thanks.
@777DEHME
@777DEHME 8 лет назад
nice Approach! hate leaving the FD ON like in this case 15:50
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+Skyhawk thanks Skyhawk. Yes that thing drives me crazy. It's still trying to fly the ILS, a lot of times I'll spin the altitude up so it won't automatically re-present the delta/chevron.
@kawadude111
@kawadude111 8 лет назад
Classy!
@billyray3761
@billyray3761 5 лет назад
Couldn't make it in on the RNAV? Son, Jim coined the phrase "MDA is the runway."
@SuperSetright
@SuperSetright 7 лет назад
Fo......talks too much!
@DeaconMike
@DeaconMike 8 лет назад
For someone who doesn't fly, that looked a little scary. At least I'd feel a little better knowing you were flying the plane. lol
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+DeaconMike Thanks Deacon. It always looks worse than it is.
@bicu77
@bicu77 8 лет назад
harsh landing conditions , good job !
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+bicu77 Thanks.
@dave991122
@dave991122 8 лет назад
I luved it!! A big sensation of speed close to the ground.About the 2:15 minute mark, you said something about 'a really high temperature to get ice'.... was it above the freezing point, 0C? If so, was it due to a low pressure area on the windscreen?
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+david barker Hi David. We normally turn on our Ant-ice equipment at +10 C or lower in visible moister. Low pressure areas on the wing and engine cowl are where low pressure cooling tends to be more of a problem, Not the windshield. We were at +6. Normally any ice on the windshield melts off as soon as we hit +1 or +2. those temps combined with the high airflow will melt it right off in a few seconds. I think we may have passed through a layer of warm air that freezing rain was falling through.
@comcfi
@comcfi 4 года назад
Right seat guy needs to observe sterile cockpit. Damn.
@AirspotterUK
@AirspotterUK 7 лет назад
Hi great video, keep them coming, If ever you come to London,uk give me a heads up.
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 7 лет назад
Thanks Airspotter. I've been there a couple of times and loved it. I just need to find someone who needs to fly to London.
@mikemchale7827
@mikemchale7827 8 лет назад
Your side kick .... seems to have issues....
@mmichaeldonavon
@mmichaeldonavon 7 лет назад
Didn't seen like a good match. Was OK, but not a match.
@TrxXzOmBiesXxent
@TrxXzOmBiesXxent 7 лет назад
He seemed almost rude to approach and tower.
@mattnorthrup7852
@mattnorthrup7852 7 лет назад
I would have been so annoyed.....we get it...you would not have been able to get in on the RNAV
@stevestumbaugh8982
@stevestumbaugh8982 6 лет назад
I agree , your sidekick seems to know it all.
@berniemccann8935
@berniemccann8935 5 лет назад
Yes, definitely an attitude problem.
@chibinwosu5261
@chibinwosu5261 5 лет назад
Jim, loved the video. Looked a difficult approach. Was it me ,the camera angle ,or were the flight display instruments constantly in and out of phase . The displays looked difficult to read.
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 5 лет назад
In the video the camera and monitors are out of sync. But, you don't see that with your eyes.
@ryanripley2072
@ryanripley2072 8 лет назад
Love your videos! I wanted to be a pilot but my dreams got ruined with me having a hearing problem and wouldn't be able to pass the hearing test.
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+Ryan Ripley Hi Ryan. Thanks for watching. Sorry to hear that. The vision and hearing test knock a lot of people out. Pilots never escape, if you fly long enough eventually one of the items they test for knocks you out.
@BossaNossa1
@BossaNossa1 8 лет назад
Let us know if you spot Santa flying by in the ice!!! lol :) Thanks!
@Klaatu-ij9uz
@Klaatu-ij9uz 7 лет назад
WOW!.....that one had me on the edge of my seat. The importance of dual-pilot was overwhelming. Would you have attempted a landing like that at night?
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 7 лет назад
I don't think so.
@MichaelSchafir
@MichaelSchafir 8 лет назад
This is a great video and a good example of some of the challenges of IFR flying. Why a circling approach? Is there no active ILS for that direction?
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+Michael Schafir there is and that would have been the first choice. But, that would have meant landing with a very strong tailwind that would have exceeded the tailwind landing limitation for the aircraft.
@MichaelSchafir
@MichaelSchafir 8 лет назад
Makes perfect sense. Thank you.
@michaelmitiszek1538
@michaelmitiszek1538 8 лет назад
Very challenging. A co-pilot seems to be very helpful in such extreme weather conditions. Is this Citation registered for single pilot operation as well?
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+Michael Mitiszek Hi Michael. The Encore is not certified for single pilot operations but, you can get a waiver from the FAA to fly it single pilot. That's an additional check ride on top of the one you would normally take. We can't fly it single pilot because of the type operations we fly. My copilot flies an Encore for another company and he flies it single pilot half the time.
@aaronwcary
@aaronwcary 7 лет назад
Now this is the flying pilots live for
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 7 лет назад
it's always fun.
@Windtee
@Windtee 8 лет назад
Fine circling approach! Great teamwork! Interesting how the RNAV 12R circling mins are 200' higher than the ILS 30L circling mins. I assume it has to do with the density of obstructions in the vicinity of the approach path of 12R. Were you using Cat C mins on the approach?
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+Windtee B, returning home, a lot of times our ref is only 98 kts. Your right about the obstructions. Arriving from the west there is an antennae farm, hi-rise buildings and the arch.
@mmichaeldonavon
@mmichaeldonavon 7 лет назад
Were you getting a check ride? That's what it sounded like. thanks,
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 7 лет назад
No, just flying back home.
@mmichaeldonavon
@mmichaeldonavon 7 лет назад
OK, thanks.
@berniemccann8935
@berniemccann8935 5 лет назад
Sarcastic?
@mm-zj5qw
@mm-zj5qw 8 лет назад
Hey mister pilot, are you able to explain some tips and tricks about clouds and possible hazard . How do you analyze the weather, what should pilot do if icing occurs . Thank you grandpa! :D
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+Mike Thomson If you start to pick up ice, get out of it. Icing tends to occur in layers and often a change of altitude with an associated temperature or moisture change will get you out of the icing.
@mm-zj5qw
@mm-zj5qw 8 лет назад
captmoonbeam Hey pilot! I need help . please tell me. I have ppl and i flew only on cessna 152 , what should i do to fly cessna 172 ? with the fixed pitch prop . Do i need to fly with instructor to get ( type rating ) or i'm able to fly right now ? Of course after reading POH .
@BossaNossa1
@BossaNossa1 8 лет назад
O.k. so in my mind if I were a pilot I'd have binoculars handy to find these airports and runways... Is there a reason why you don't use one..? Thanks! Merry Christmas!!!
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+BossaNossa1 Merry Christmas Bossa.
@avoidingtrees6692
@avoidingtrees6692 7 лет назад
Good afternoon captainmoonbeam I noticed that you fly different type of airplanes........do you get sometimes confused ????? Fly safe ! Cheers from France 👍
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 7 лет назад
For some reason, no. I think it's helpful they're all made by the same manufacturer. Lots of commonalities.
@avoidingtrees6692
@avoidingtrees6692 7 лет назад
captmoonbeam Truly amazing. Keep enjoying flying for all of us who don't fly anymore.....👍 Cheers from France.
@BossaNossa1
@BossaNossa1 8 лет назад
O.k. so remind me exactly why the change in Altimeter settings... Thanks!
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+BossaNossa1 The change comes with the speed and distance we are moving. In this video we probably cover 125 miles and the pressure is changing from one area to another.
@berniemccann8935
@berniemccann8935 5 лет назад
@@captmoonbeam -- Especially that day. 😀
@1384orion
@1384orion 7 лет назад
Nice flying Capt. What's your favorite airplane to fly? Besides all of them
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 7 лет назад
I can't say I have an absolute favorite. I like flying different airplanes.
@BossaNossa1
@BossaNossa1 8 лет назад
Could you explain why exactly you guys couldn't land the first time when you had visual, was it your speed..? Thanks!
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+BossaNossa1 If we had landed on the runway when we broke out the strong tailwind would have pushed us much further down the runway than was safe. That's why we circled to the other side so that we could land into the wind and reduce our landing distance.
@dornmichael1948
@dornmichael1948 5 лет назад
Co Pilot sounds panicky....staying cool is best..
@BossaNossa1
@BossaNossa1 8 лет назад
So, the American flight where were they positioned in relation to you..?
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+BossaNossa1 the controller was working multiple frequencies over a large geographic area. We never saw the American flight.
@BossaNossa1
@BossaNossa1 8 лет назад
So you touched down at 103kts is that correct, like a feather right?
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+BossaNossa1 our ref was probably 98 kts so that is slightly fast.
@BMcD79959
@BMcD79959 3 года назад
The FO needs to practice “sterile cockpit” procedures. Too much unnecessary chatter.
@crapper1
@crapper1 8 лет назад
guessing you had to scud run the clouds getting to rwy 12 and make it a visual instead ATIS is quite optimistic things were better than they were lol
@DJMilo101
@DJMilo101 8 лет назад
+crapper1 That is considered a Circling Approach. Has prescribed minimums and approach profile so far from scud running. Was a well executed circling approach.
@mikearakelian6368
@mikearakelian6368 4 года назад
Fo talks too much and distracting....needs to zip it
@hjvibetv7457
@hjvibetv7457 8 лет назад
2 thumbs up to the guy in the right seat!
@captmoonbeam
@captmoonbeam 8 лет назад
+HJVibetv Here's another thumbs up for Bryan.
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