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Rainwater Harvesting System Part 5 - Overflow Pipe Installation

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In this video, I show you how to install a rainwater tank overflow pipe.
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@teddyruxspin8480 2 года назад

It looks like you are living the same life as me except up here in Canada is much colder lol ...you can't beat living in a rural area without neighbours .

@nathanwilliams8222 2 года назад

Glad you were able to get the pipe into the tank. I had a similar situation but was unsuccessful and had to enlarge the hole.

@ASiembieda 5 месяцев назад

Man, I hope you never have to replace that seal! Lol! Been interested in homesteading and rain water harvesting for a long time. That is what ended up bringing me to your channel. Hope to watch and learn more from your videos!

@Jonzuber 2 года назад

The white exposed PVC pipe needs to be painted in order to protect it from the UV rays coming from the sun. Otherwise the PVC pipe will deteriorate, become brittle and split. I learned this lesson the hard way.

@caseyarmstrong7064 2 года назад

Pete, by leaving the elbow to where you can spin it, you can determine your water height by just spinning the elbow to where you want the level of the water

@williamgates5652 2 года назад

Awesome setup you have there, Pete.

@jeffb6131 4 месяца назад

Stick that poly pipe in the freezer for half an hour that should shrink it down slightly so you can get it in then as it warms up again it will be a tight fit.

@andyrose8642 2 года назад

Thanks Pete, I like the recommendation of the Mozzie Stoppa Flap Valve.

@sailme2day 2 года назад

gutter guards, one time install , clean for life .

@michaelbelle4702 2 года назад

Turn the down spout around. Face the cut away from the building. Should help wash away the leaves.

@patriciarobinson4267 2 года назад

Looks great Pete, boy that sleeve was tight. 💚🧡👍👍🙏

@geraldgammel1569 2 года назад

Wow, nice set up Pete! I'm envious.

@petebeasttexashomesteading 2 года назад

Thanks! 👍

@lorenmeyer5290 2 года назад

Looking great Pete!

@petebeasttexashomesteading 2 года назад

Thanks 👍

@ritabrunetti381 2 года назад

Keep working on this project. Be well.

@benjohnson1082 2 года назад

Pete - catching up on videos and your progress. Looks good. It will be neat to see how long it takes to build up a large amount of water.

@jneckcrank 2 года назад

Pete if you use gutter guards that have a fine mesh leaves will not enter your gutters. I got mine from Costco and work well

@petebeasttexashomesteading 2 года назад

My gutters connect to the building differently and I can't use standard gutter guards. I'll have a video showing that Wednesday.

@jimginnyohio 2 года назад

Looks good Pete!

@tomplank9056 2 года назад

Thanks

@petebeasttexashomesteading 2 года назад

Thank you

@tomplank9056 2 года назад

@@petebeasttexashomesteading so I’ve only watched the first 2. 1-2 so far on the catch water system.I’m guessing that the way you changed Will be a good move. We put on 6 inch gutter this spring, and when the gully washer hits you need the bigger volume capacity here in southern , mo. So I was glad you equaled the outflow to 6 inches. But why not do a fill at top of tank? I’m hoping that gets explained as I watch the rest. Supporting a 8 ft pipe in air would definitely be a challenge. But I’m trying to figure out how you can fill in bottom without a pump? I’ll wait and see. Got new chicks hatching in incubator. Hoping that by March they will be able to add to production, and can feed outside about then. See ya.

@peterwallace9300 2 года назад

Just that time of year for leaves it will get better

@petebeasttexashomesteading 2 года назад

That's what worries me, our leaves really start to fall next month. But you're right after that it should be fine.

@zacharygonsalves5451 4 месяца назад

Hey Pete, I’m planning to model my rainwater system after yours. Basically making an exact replica. Would love to be able to email you to discuss about it.

@roblynch7234 2 года назад

Have you thought about gutter guards to sort of pre-screen out leaves and debris before they even get to the leaf eater?

@petebeasttexashomesteading 2 года назад

Yes but my gutters are connected to the building differently and I can't connect standard gutter guards. I have a video on that coming out next.

@juliebarnett9812 2 года назад

Thanks!

@alwayslooking701 Год назад

The Leaf Eater is a failed Australian product. The failings are: The filter mesh is set at approximately 35 degrees which is grossly inadequate for debris shedding. To make things worse, there is a flat recessed section of mesh at the bottom that dams debris, causing splash. There is no protection to the falling water from wind, causing further yield losses. In another video, I noticed that you hard connected balance lines between the tanks. This is a big NO! You should have used flexible corrugated food grade hose. I hope that you attend to this ASAP. The main point of this post is to comment on your use of the upturned elbow on the tank's overflow pipe. A water tank's overflow pipe must always have a pre hydraulic calculation made to make sure it is of suitable overflow capacity but maybe you are not too concerned about the tank overtopping during heavy rain when the tanks are full because the overflow pipe drains to ground anyway. A vertical pipe has a higher overflow capacity than a horizontal outlet at the same height but you have raised the overflow weir from what was a high point already afforded minimal mitigation to one much higher. The weir flow over the crest is greater the higher the water level is. The roof area is 2,400 sq feet and so 1" of rain will give 1,500 US gallons of water or 150 US gallons if it rained with a steady intensity of 1/10th of an inch per minute. Would you experience a similar rain intensity very often where you are? You have used sch 40 pvc pipe which has an internal diameter larger than nominal and which also varies depending on the pressure rating chosen. The figures below are for a 3.94" (100mm) vertical pipe draining with different water levels above its crest. I have done the conversions from metric figures and they are for an unmeshed orifice. The flap valve fitted at the bottom provides no restriction as opposed to a meshed overflow outlet fitted at the tank. 1.57" 66 gpm 1.97" 73.8 gpm 2.95" 90.6 gpm 3.94" 104.4 gpm 4.92" 117 gpm

@stilllearningagain 28 дней назад

SInce you mentioned the "Leaf Eater" being a failed product, is there a better option that you would recomend?

@alwayslooking701 27 дней назад

@@stilllearningagain The problem is that manufacturer's generally play "Monkey see...monkey do" which is why there are so many similar products and an emphasis on point of sales appeal. Having a great product name also does wonders! ICON plastics in Australia sell a "Leaf And Debris Controller" styled on a traditional rainhead. It was originally made by Marley in New Zealand and after changing the original woeful honeycomb style outer filter, it is by far a better choice. The large (x2 the Leaf Eater) outer triangular straight ribbed filter is on a steep slope and highly effective at shedding debris. There is also a large mosquito proof inner filter that is easily pulled out at the front for cleaning. The falling water is also shielded from wind. It is however larger and heavier (865 grams) than the Leaf Eater (620 grams) which you have to consider if you are importing. Why not make your own? If you know someone who has a 3D printer and can do files, you could have a sheet metal body made and either get some wedge wire filter or have a wedge wire filter 3D printed to suit. I have seen a RU-vid vid showing a 3Dprinted wedge wire filter which from memory may have been wrongly referred to as a Coanda filter, a mistake many others have made. You will probably have more luck if you search "Coanda Filter" rather han "Wedge Wire Filter".

@bw-mi9xp 2 года назад

comin along nicely pete! what about having the overflow water going down your property collecting into a little pond? maybe big enough to have some fish in it?

@petebeasttexashomesteading 2 года назад

That would be nice but it doesn't rain enough here for that to happen.

@bw-mi9xp 2 года назад

@@petebeasttexashomesteading ahh well some say the climate is changing so perhaps more rain is in the long term forecast

@ratspeedgarage 2 года назад

I was waiting for the seal to drop off into the tank 🙃

@amsohn1 2 года назад

Looks great Pete... question do you have a 1st flush? Or do you find that it's not needed? Or did I actually miss that part. 🤔 😳 I've just gotten 55 gal blue barrels and am starting there... I so appreciate your videos Blessings

@petebeasttexashomesteading 2 года назад

I do have a first flush on the system, it was in my last video. I do think they will help if it hasn't rain in a while and collect all the dirt and dust from the roof.

@amsohn1 2 года назад

@@petebeasttexashomesteading thanks Pete... apparently I didn't get see that and I'll go back and watch it... it really looks nice and I totally see how it works... now for some rain!!

@Planzman1 Месяц назад

Why didn’t u just use 2 inch bung righT there, screw in street el to threads on inside.

@stilllearningagain 28 дней назад

you technically need an overfolw the same size or larger than your inputs.. it takes 4- 2" pipes to equal the same area as a 4" pipe. (16 - 1" pipes for a 4" pipe). otherwise if the water can't escape fast enough, your tank will build pressure and probably split.

@HomesteadEngineering 2 года назад

I want one...

@davidvelen9835 2 года назад

Pete just curious why schedule 40 for the overflow plumbing and not the lighter sewer/vent type of piping you used in the rest of the system?

@petebeasttexashomesteading 2 года назад

I could only find uniseal for sch. 40 pipe.

@farmyourbackyard2023 2 года назад

I’ve heard several people say that the Leafeater failed. It may not be your install. It may just be the product in general.

@petebeasttexashomesteading 2 года назад

Time will tell, if it keeps clogging, then I'll find something else.

@MargaretWalkerCellist 2 года назад

Yes, leaves aren't good as filters for your clear water harvest.

@iancrook7510 Год назад

What is the minimum size for an overflow pipe

@petebeasttexashomesteading Год назад

I have two 4 inch pipes going in and one 4 inch going out for the overflow and it been working great. So I would go minimum of half of what you have going on to the tank.

@alwayslooking701 27 дней назад

The overflow should be designed and sized to discharge the maximum amount of water plus a safety margin that would be reasonably expected during a heavy rain event if the tank filled. Of interest, Pete has actually decreased his tank's overflow capacity by fitting the upturned elbow because the vertical crest is now higher than the horizontal invert would have otherwise been. For example, an unmeshed 100mm (slightly less than 4") diameter horizontal outlet with 200mm of water above its invert will discharge at 8.08 L/s whereas a 100mm vertical pipe's crest that is 150mm above the horizontal pipe's invert, thus having 50mm of water above the crest with the same water level, will flow at 4.67 L/s. This may however be fine for many installations but making hydraulic calculations is a prerequisite.