@@noahmcdonald8872 “vil·lain /ˈvilən/ noun 1. (in a film, novel, or play) a character whose evil actions or motives are important to the plot.” Brother’s reigniting a war with the world. He’s a leader of an uprising, sharing no mercy with those that oppose him or even stand at neutral or passive ground. May be for a just cause but that doesn’t make it right. He’s a tragic villain, but a villain nonetheless.
@@nitrofighter58 Magneto _is_ a supervillain. It doesn’t matter if his goal is righteous or not, it’s his actions that determine it. Not sure if he’s changed in the past few years, but the elimination and/or subjugation of humanity for the sake of mutants because mutants are “superior,” as far as we should call it, is bad. Villains can have good and just reasons to do things. Doesn’t mean they’re the good guys.
@Sunny-uz8cw he has changed lately but mostly because the overall theme of xmen has changed towards uniting all of mutantdom separately from humanity instead of coexisting in the way they did before
Overwatch, the good guys: slaughtered omnics in droves during the crisis. Null Sector, the bad guys: fight for omnic rights and equality by any means necessary. Huh, that's a little weird.
The Omnics during the crisis weren't sentient, just drones being controlled by the Anubis AI. It wasn't until Aurora's sacrifice did the Omnics gain sentience.
“By any means necessary” Like bombing and killing innocent people by the millions and kidnapping thousands of innocent omnics? Are those necessary means to you? Null Sector does not fight “the oppressor” they fight the innocent. Speaking as a black man, would me just running out and stabbing random white people be “fighting for racial equality”. No! It’s just murder. Rammatra does not fight against the system which oppresses omnics, he is a genocidal maniac using a righteous intention to justify means beyond deplorable. And omnics weren’t sapient during the first Omnic crisis.
i have been thought about this, and i think the rason ramattra hates humans is because hes traumatized by humanity, he has seen the worst of human nature againts his people, he tolerates some humans ofc, he doesnt hate them all, but the prejudice he has for them is merely his experience. hatin humanity is a way of cope, since he only wants peace, hes willin to live with humanity, but humans dont want that.
Yeah, because he wants to kill everybody, his line of omnic was designed by the god-programs with that intentional purpose, fuck him and his stupid fucking robots, #HumanSupremacy
0:25 By putting new chains on you erasing your memories making you Mindless obedient Drones for equality 0:35 by making conflict & strife the 1st war did 0:39-0:47 exactly what they're doing to the omnics that are living with humans 1:30 more like we welcome you into the Anti Iris
Malcolm X wasn’t violent, and he didn’t hate white people either. Rammatra is violent and is fully absorbed in his hatred of humans. The only similarity they remotely have is wanting the best for their people, but Malcolm X also acknowledged the ignorance that rules American society and kept true understanding between people at bay. They’re only similar superficially, their messages are completely parallel, Malcolm X wanted understanding, Rammatra wants total annihilation
@@HUNTR11 Well if you realise that overwatch started american it makes more sense. A special task force that has the mission to kill a civil rights activist? Very realistic if you ask me.
@@stevenwier1783 Rammatra is a genocidal maniac. Mondatta was a civil rights activist, Rammatra isn’t. Maybe at some point in the past he was, but he threw that away and wants annihilation of mankind.
@HUNTR11 we're all taught that Malcom X was a violent terrorist who wanted to destroy America when, in reality, he was an amazing civil rights icon who was killed by the American government
He is literally Zen but without patience. He want equal rights for Omnics and he tried to make it peacefully , but well, humans did what they always do. He is not hating humans, he just tired of trusting them.
He tried it the peaceful way and the result was more of the omnics perishing. He got sick and tired of hoping and praying that things would change and finally decided he would do something about it. Its like ramattra himself says, if humans will not listen to peace then he will speak to us in a language we understand. Violence
@@namixless9732 Lmao ok, then explain to me why Null Secter invaded Toronto and enthralled the Omnics that live there. Why would he deny other Omnics free will if it isn't a matter of self righteousness? Sometimes you have to actually THINK to fully understand something.
@@Asnort for the same reason adolf jailed germans who protected jews; they ally with the enemy, they need to be taken care of, the difference is ram can actually mind control these omnics flawlessly, if you check the story missions you'll see he has humans and omnics separated and omnics taken away to be reprogrammed, it is plausible he'll free them once this is over
Damn, if only there was some kind of story mode where content like this was abundant and we didn't need to que up with other players that aren't interested to experience it.
Only if there was an option to play a PvE gamemode that costs $20 for only a part of it. But Blizzard would never do that, they are an unbiased and understanding people.
thinking about changing my game to english just so i can hear these epic voice lines. he is such an amazing character. wish they would expend on him more
i genuinely don’t understand how people think he’s racist when hes literally based off of civil rights activists like MLK and Malcolm x. liberation for an oppressed group isn’t pretty and it never has been. ramatra is the closest to anti racist as you can get. i feel like i could make an hour long video essay explaining just this…
while he is doing legitimately evil things, he is actually such a well written villain/character i actually agree with him, he does hate humanity but it's not merely for the sake of being evil or racist, he wants peace for his people and he DID try giving peace a chance but humans just said fuck all y'all anyway, so he decided he had to make the change himself even if it meant genocide, he is genuinely doing what he belives is right for the sake of all of his people.
@@alanmartinez2122 the “evil” things hes doing are realistic in terms of pushing for liberation. in real life the civil rights movement was chaotic and violent. there was a reason MLK was killed by the FBI in real life. most civil rights activists in the real world were labeled criminals or terrorists and framed as evil because the movements were violent at one point or another. the fight for freedom of a group will never be peaceful but it is very necessary
He’s mostly based off Malcom X and Zen is MLK just like in marvel with professor X and Magneto, though Both characters just like the real life Malcom took the liberation into hate becoming racist to the oppressor as a black dudes it’s interesting cause yeah we were oppressed but at what point does to much liberation make us into the oppressors we once fought against
Love me some long haired grander than life powerful guy that creates an army of followers through promises of freedom of a marginalized group without realizing their plan is not one of freedom but one of self destructive revenge their soldiers can't possibly follow them into because only they have the hate to motivate them to fight no matter what and the skill to actually win, accidentally bringing the people they want to help to a suicide war (yes i also like sylas)
If mondatta was alive, the war between humans and omnics would probably be lessened. He was supposed to be the one to bring peace between them, until widowmaker killed him
Storytellers are really being held back by the moneygrabbers here. They might as wel just continue the short films, or I’d even read the books at this point
He’s mostly based off Malcom X and Zen is MLK just like in marvel with professor X and Magneto, though Both characters just like the real life Malcom took the liberation into hate becoming racist to the oppressor as a black dudes it’s interesting cause yeah we were oppressed but at what point does to much liberation make us into the oppressors we once fought against
@@SumStranger he seemed more Ghandi and and Zen learned from his teachings kinda like with how MLK was in real life but yeah there is a mix with the whole assassination sniper from widow like MLK
@@NotMinty I might be missing something but I don't ever remember hearing Zen talk about peace between humans and Omnics, he's more of a chill type of person (if that makes sense) he's more interested into talking to others about the iris. While Mondatta was the one talking about peace between Humans and Omnics.
