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Range Test - Retevis RT24 vs. Motorola XT420 vs. Motorola T80 

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A real-life urban range test of a budget, consumer & professional PMR446 walkie-talkie.
In this video, I compare 3 PMR446 walkie-talkie radios to see if RF and range performance is better on a professional radio than a budget radio. Basically, will a £150 radio perform better than £15 radio?
The test is carried out in a built-up urban environment so don't expect to achieve anything close to the 10km stated on the box. To be honest, they did better than I expected!
As with any range test, the scenario is completely unique so performance will differ for you.

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@2beer_OR_NOT_2beer
@2beer_OR_NOT_2beer 2 года назад
The T80 nailed it lol. I’m using the XT420 since a few years and I’m satisfied, but when it comes to price tags I’m impressed by the T80. Holy cow… That’s Motorola and I love it anyway
@Gamerietes
@Gamerietes Год назад
Bought the t82, I love it, use it at home with the kids and at work 👍🏼
@Goyotero1000
@Goyotero1000 5 лет назад
The guy at motorola had an aneurysm when he heard your conclusion.
@tdcattech
@tdcattech 5 лет назад
🤣
@michaelloughlin734
@michaelloughlin734 5 лет назад
The Motorola's seem to be clearer with their mic quality. Seems to really out perform the retevis even though signals are identical mororola punches through......its the same with my older model xtnid mic qualities are better.....really impressed with the little t.80s performance......yes well done test was really good thank you for the time and effort you put into producing this me already having Motorola's guessed the outcome before I even watched you're video ......
@tdcattech
@tdcattech 5 лет назад
The XT420 is brash and bold and this is just great when signals start to drop...though the mic level can be adjusted in software unlike the other two so maybe the test is unfair. The RT24 fades to nothing and sounds weak. The T80 sounds superb. It's clear and crisp. I did a specific audio test of these 3 but I haven't edited it yet :-). Not sure I need to now as this video demonstrates it well.
@michaelloughlin734
@michaelloughlin734 5 лет назад
@@tdcattech definately....t.80 throws out excellent audio on you're 10km range test it picked the dog barking so clear Motorola has always been tops for me well the name speaks for itself I could be tempted to invest in the xt420 .
@tdcattech
@tdcattech 5 лет назад
It's such a beautifully made radio (shown here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cV3gK5U-Ae0.html ). There's something I love about a really well-made tool to just do a job. No frills, just what you need for an everyday user. I got mine from www.2wayradioshop.co.uk/ for something like £85 (I'm not associated with the company but they provided good advice and service). You'll need a CPS cable to do any re-programming though. I'm sure you know all this but just for the benefit of others really.
@micmucky4993
@micmucky4993 5 лет назад
The xt660 isn't on here that's the one I use and sorry to say but I wouldn't agree that their identical if the audio quality is better on the t80 and xt420 the r24 sounds rubbish compare to the other 2
@stfuplsok
@stfuplsok Год назад
@@michaelloughlin734 *Motorolas your* video *definitely on *your 10km
@rilosvideos877
@rilosvideos877 9 месяцев назад
Quite exactly our experience with a Midland G9 Pro. Range about 2 km in a bit hilly terrain with forrest and village. A bit difference with better antennas on Baofeng UV-5R or GT-3TP or a Quancheng UV-K5 wit Nagoya NA771 (even the fake ones). Much better Call quality at 3...5 km distance in same area. TX Power about 2 W (low). I have to get a NanoVNA to maeasure the antenna, i guess they are far from perfect for both bands. On UHV the distance was better than on VHF, probably due to antenna. You can get the chinese radios for 20 bucks! 🙂
@livesportsvideo02
@livesportsvideo02 5 лет назад
Matey you sound like an airline pilot with those rigs.😁
@kubelkowy
@kubelkowy 5 лет назад
Ok, I'm new to the radios world. Just bought my first (Motorola T82 Extreme) and I'm wondering what kind of ranges should I expect in the city? After the first test we've get not much more than 500m.
@tdcattech
@tdcattech 5 лет назад
I see you found my other video discussing this subject. Yep, you're doing fine with 500m. I wouldn't expect much more. To get better performance, you'll need to use a repeater in a 'beneficial' location :-)
@donalderickson-si8ww
@donalderickson-si8ww 4 месяца назад
then you need a license to do that as I have a license since june last year
@Ixquick979
@Ixquick979 4 года назад
Would replacing the microphone with the higher quality increase voice quality of the RT24?
@donalderickson-si8ww
@donalderickson-si8ww 4 месяца назад
ask him
@memesandentertainment8
@memesandentertainment8 4 года назад
You are the best in reviewing these radios 📻 Thanks n if possible please review midland walkie talkies I haerd they are better than Motorola 2 way talk about radios 📻 Please review midland walkies❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@Lazarus20
@Lazarus20 Год назад
How about the other direction? Sending pmr stays the same and only receiving pmr's are altered and compared.
@zazugee
@zazugee 4 месяца назад
yes, as far as TX power, they are all same, but for RX the quality of amplifiers shows
@Realtrue6
@Realtrue6 3 месяца назад
Hi. I need belt clips for Retevis Rt45P. Is it possible to check compatibility with any PMR Motorola? Much better purchase availability
@MrKenken2346
@MrKenken2346 4 месяца назад
so it seems all PMR walkie talkies with fixed antennas perform about the same distance, whether it is a cheap or expensive set?
@abreyu
@abreyu 2 месяца назад
so there are no difference between T50 compared to T80 in range performances?
@TheKogoroMouri
@TheKogoroMouri 4 года назад
I have 4 RT24 and seriously, for the price. It's cheap and you have a professional look PMR , the battery , i have let the radio without comunicate, you canlet him approximatively two days, it's very long. with low to normal usage it take 1, 1.5 days . for the power. i think like you that is the antenna make a difference. i have put on the RT24 a better antenna (High Gain antenna from my Wouxun) and i get a better range and better quality. (normally boost your RT24 with better antenna & pass to 0.5 to 2w is not legal but i dont think you will get spotted, police & other gov branch have other thing to do that looking on PMR frequency XD) In a flat way (i have a lake near my home) it make a flat distance and i can communicate with RT24 at 8.2 KM . Retevis have make a test on his youtube page. at full power it goes more than 10Km on flat distance. On city, i think only powerfull radios can go far (or with two high location) I have tested cheap PRM buy on local store VS the RT24 on 0.5w & stock antenna, it goes more far than cheap PMR (and the worst thing is the Local store cheap PMR cost most than the RT24 XD) For me, Retevis is the best cheap radios brand for Price/quality you have.
@joshuaparkes6615
@joshuaparkes6615 5 лет назад
Could you do the T82 extreme
@donalderickson-si8ww
@donalderickson-si8ww 6 месяцев назад
your talking on a radio with a range of 3 thousend ft an 6 floors up
@donalderickson-si8ww
@donalderickson-si8ww 7 дней назад
ALL F R S radio's are the same you have a half a watt transmitter in your hand that is why your range so so short one mile line of site
@MeineVideokasetten
@MeineVideokasetten 4 года назад
For me the modulation of the T80 is the best of the three radios. The RT24 is a little quiet...
@tdcattech
@tdcattech 4 года назад
T80 audio quality is superb. So clear.
@MeineVideokasetten
@MeineVideokasetten 4 года назад
@@tdcattech I'm thinking about buying one. Sounds much better than my RT24. Thank you for showing us the difference. BTW: When will we enjoy a 50km range test by your buddy and you? 😸😸😸
@mikesey1
@mikesey1 5 лет назад
I assume that you turned off the CTCSS & DCS codes that the RT24 comes with, in the box? Also, the transmit power can be turned-up to 2 watts using computer software.
@Holmbendtsen
@Holmbendtsen 5 лет назад
Is it the RT24 or T80 that can be boosted?
@Tom_SHTF
@Tom_SHTF 2 года назад
Increasing the power from 500 mW to 2 W does not make sense. You don't get anything extra (maybe from S-3 to S-4), you don't have a longer range, only more consumption.
@tamimaliraqii
@tamimaliraqii 3 года назад
Quality channel, keep it up!
@davamig
@davamig 4 года назад
Please try the Midland G9 Pro for modulation quality... thanks TdCatTech
@Tom_SHTF
@Tom_SHTF 2 года назад
Midland G9 Pro has good modulation. So far, I have several connections with the G9 at a distance of more than 120 km, quality 5.
@andyandy249
@andyandy249 2 года назад
hmm i needvhelp, i am looking for a radio. my fav is a midland g9 pro and the motorola tlkr t82 extrem. i life in a bery very smal town. i need a max distance of 1km. from my pointcto the 2. point 700m (mittle) and the 3.last point 1000m. i can say, from one andcto the other and ofvthis smal town..... what woulf you say, ist this possible? what is maybe the better radio? thanks a lot the german radio users are s little bit idiots, she can not gibes a answer. happy new year!!!
@Micromation
@Micromation 4 года назад
Do you happen to have indoor test for these radios? Also how dPMR performs indoors? I'm looking for best bang for the buck radio for Airsoft milsim use.
@donalderickson-si8ww
@donalderickson-si8ww 4 месяца назад
in side thay work well as you are in range of each others range.
@donalderickson-si8ww
@donalderickson-si8ww 3 месяца назад
I am on the 12 floor of a building when I talk to my manager on first floor we are well in are circle of transmit
@micmucky4993
@micmucky4993 5 лет назад
Just bought the Motorola xt660 pmr digital mode and analog love Motorola I had the xtnid aswell
@psykobibi
@psykobibi 3 года назад
you sold me on the T80 O_o
@donalderickson-si8ww
@donalderickson-si8ww 7 дней назад
you bought a radio with a 2 mile line of site range
@TheChico868
@TheChico868 4 года назад
Europe needs a pmr 2 watt
@tdcattech
@tdcattech 4 года назад
Can't disagree with that. It still wouldn't provide wonderful performance but it would fill in a few blackspots.
@primalcoach1914
@primalcoach1914 3 года назад
Great videos! Currently looking to buy a new set of walkie talkies after my Retevis RT45's decided to stop working, don't think I'd buy that brand again. Leaning toward the Motorola T82's at the moment, have you tried them?
@tdcattech
@tdcattech 3 года назад
No, I've never used them but if they're anything like the T80, they'll do great. The range of all these radios is virtually identical but the audio of the T80 is spectacular. The T82 has 2 big advantages over the old T80 though. Firstly, they use AA batteries, and secondly, you can charge these using USB. Much better than the AAA in the T80. If anyone reads this and feels like supporting the channel, check out the Motorola T82 walkie-talkies here --- geni.us/motot82
@primalcoach1914
@primalcoach1914 3 года назад
@@tdcattech Thanks for the reply! I think I will go with those then! Also like the carry case, which will be handy for work! Also ordered a Baofeng GT-3TP to play around with, need to research the laws around it's use!
@tdcattech
@tdcattech 3 года назад
I've just ordered a pair of the Motorola T82 walkies to review. I hope they're working out for you. PMR446 lacks in range (100-200m in a built up area) but it can be incredibly useful.
@primalcoach1914
@primalcoach1914 3 года назад
@@tdcattech Oh cool! I look forward to seeing that! I haven't bought them yet. Will be interesting to see how they perform in and urban area, as I will be using them while working installing alarms. The last time I needed two way radios was while working in a big hotel in London. Still playing around with my Baofeng, tempted to just by a second one, and use them on PMR frequencies.
@stfuplsok
@stfuplsok Год назад
@@primalcoach1914 its* use
@casualty686
@casualty686 5 лет назад
Can you do a video discussing about business radios channels and also how to change onto CTCSS OR DCS codes on Motorola t80 and also XT420
@donalderickson-si8ww
@donalderickson-si8ww 6 месяцев назад
I am peryt shere that target would not want you on there systum talking crap
@mariusmvs550
@mariusmvs550 2 года назад
Do you have videos or some recommendation regarding Cobra AM645 or AM845? What do you think?
@donalderickson-si8ww
@donalderickson-si8ww 4 месяца назад
cobera is the biggest lier of all everything on the box is wrong
@donalderickson-si8ww
@donalderickson-si8ww 4 месяца назад
my herizen on the ma645 and the am845 645 was last year 845 this year maby some new button's that's all I looked at all of them and went with rugged radio thay don't have stupped buttons just radios F R S = G M R S both all thay sell is radios and all the extra's you don't have to chase down some where else ware
@mariusmvs550
@mariusmvs550 4 месяца назад
@@donalderickson-si8ww thank you
@donalderickson-si8ww
@donalderickson-si8ww 3 месяца назад
you welcome
@borenus4885
@borenus4885 Год назад
How can I get a radio that can cover like a whole city, like 15-20 miles unbroken by buildings ?
@tdcattech
@tdcattech Год назад
You really can't without either using a repeater located on high ground locally or you could opt for PTToC but that comes with other costs and setup complexities - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Y09cu7mH4eM.html
@borenus4885
@borenus4885 Год назад
@@tdcattech okay thanks for the info
@hexxe
@hexxe Год назад
I need advice good 446 PMR walkie talkie for Urban
@donalderickson-si8ww
@donalderickson-si8ww 4 месяца назад
ok what is a446pmr radio never heard of it
@piterex7
@piterex7 3 года назад
Yaesu -ft4x worth every penny goes for a miles in the cities . The all PMR radios good for children playing war games
@650GSF
@650GSF 5 лет назад
We just got some new Motorola radios, at work, cant remember exact model its either the T60/T60Z or T61 we are trying to get the strongest signal without interference, I was wondering, are the main channels the stronger signal, by that I mean for instance being on channel 5 as appose to being on channel 5.1 or does it not make any difference ?
@tdcattech
@tdcattech 5 лет назад
These are sometimes referred to as 'sub-channels' but they are not different channels at all. The power, performance and frequency is identical to the main channel. The second number denotes something called the CTCSS or DCS code which is a tone or code that is sent with your transmission. If you set all your radios to the same CTCSS value, they will only open their squelch when they receive that tone with a transmission. It's just a privacy measure but does not provide any security. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_Tone-Coded_Squelch_System
@650GSF
@650GSF 5 лет назад
ok thanks for clearing that up for me :-)
@stighenningjohansen
@stighenningjohansen 6 месяцев назад
Interesting, but they should be tested like Retevis to Retevis. Tranceiver quality is depending on both transmitter and receiver quality, and speaker sound quality, but that said, from what I heard the Motorola XT450/T80 was clearly superior to the RT24, but since their receivers was not tested, this test is half baked :)
@mensagemii744
@mensagemii744 4 года назад
All FRS radios are similar. All have 0,5 W. The range is the same.
@stephenszabo2361
@stephenszabo2361 3 года назад
They are 2 watts now...I was wondering why the retevis didn't range better with the taller antenna
@4nhk066
@4nhk066 3 года назад
the t80 has a very good microphone. nice
@tdcattech
@tdcattech 3 года назад
Yep. Best sounding walkie talkie by far. XT420 is better because it’s loud but the T80 is sonically excellent.
@4nhk066
@4nhk066 3 года назад
@@tdcattech loud and poor sound quality..? no thx, the only thing i love that's loud and with poor sound quality is MOTÖRHEAD lol
@MujoNovak
@MujoNovak 3 года назад
WLN-C1 is the best!
@tdcattech
@tdcattech 3 года назад
Identical radio to the RT622 / RT22. They’re nice little radios but performance wise they’re identical to these.
@MujoNovak
@MujoNovak 3 года назад
@@tdcattech Yep, same performance for 1/3 price of motorola makes them the best. I would like to own motorola cause its nice design, but not for that insane price. hmmm, and isnt motorola also made in china...
@Popart-xh2fd
@Popart-xh2fd Год назад
I think the diference is more about the mic than the range!
@jonjeffries3265
@jonjeffries3265 3 года назад
My RT29's are 10w..
@tdcattech
@tdcattech 3 года назад
The RT29 are sold as 10W and many reports do seem to have them as a true 10W which is quite rare, particularly for budget walkies like the Retevis. They'll give you a nice coverage!
@jonjeffries3265
@jonjeffries3265 3 года назад
@@tdcattech thank you for the reply.. I live in the suburbs of Orange County, Southern California, and I purchased the UHF model. Would you recommend the UHF or VHF for communication in this area..?
@tdcattech
@tdcattech 3 года назад
I've no idea on the legislation where you live but, if you could tolerate the antenna length with VHF, I bet you'd get some decent coverage.
@JamesDC42
@JamesDC42 4 года назад
Yet my T80s can't even make 200M
@indonesianhuntingandadvent3107
@indonesianhuntingandadvent3107 4 года назад
Owh?very far...nice
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