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Ranin Karim: Carl Lentz's Ex-Mistress Who Exposed The Hillsong Church Scandal 

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Hulu recently released a massive four-part exposé titled, The Secrets of Hillsong. In this riveting documentary, we see the shocking realties of this global megachurch's descent into scandal.
Enter Carl Lentz, Hillsong's A-List pastor of choice for celebs such as Justin Bieber, Chris Pratt, Bono, Nick Jonas, and power siblings Kendall and Kylie Jenner. But Lentz's larger-than-life persona, with all its sparkle & shine, was nothing more than a facade.
Beneath it lay a sordid web of adultery and lies that brought everything tumbling down when his mistress, New York City jewelry designer Ranin Karim, revealed Letz’s dirty little secrets to the world.
Today, we bring you the woman at the center of this shocking scandal, as Ranin opens up on our show to set the record straight about her role in this controversy, and discusses the never-before-heard details of her secret affair with Carl Lentz.
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@reinventlife5536
@reinventlife5536 Год назад
Bottom line is: She KNEW he was married on the SECOND Day, but she agreed to proceed.
@corey5991
@corey5991 Год назад
She’s definitely not the victim at all . She knew he was married so all this innocent acting is not believable.
@tsviii9960
@tsviii9960 Год назад
Yeah weird asf how all women buy into bs of her being this innocent chick who didn’t know anything like bruh you’re a side chick one thing you do is not ruin a marriage and blaming Carl for some pervert before he was even part of the church is whack too.
@nicolacryptoherman973
@nicolacryptoherman973 5 месяцев назад
Neither of these people are victims. They used each other to get what they wanted. The victims are the congregation, famous and non-famous!
@stacygutierrez1157
@stacygutierrez1157 2 месяца назад
For someone who is trying to make it seem like HE was soooo into her and she didn’t care so much…she remembers every single detail.
@kpt3462
@kpt3462 Месяц назад
Exactly 🤣
@tjkennedyphoto
@tjkennedyphoto Год назад
She tells herself a story in which she is so Innocent lol. Sweetheart, it takes two to tango.
@marleneg7794
@marleneg7794 Год назад
Yeah sure but she broadcast his bullshit.
@tjkennedyphoto
@tjkennedyphoto Год назад
@@marleneg7794 kinda disgusting I think
@marleneg7794
@marleneg7794 Год назад
If I was Lentz' wife or future congregant I would want to know all of it.
@tjkennedyphoto
@tjkennedyphoto Год назад
@@marleneg7794 this interview should have been with his wife, if anyone. The mistress seems a little disingenuous and/or unable to accept responsibility in this matter. That puts a sour taste in my mouth.
@marleneg7794
@marleneg7794 Год назад
@@tjkennedyphoto it's all very messy. Did you watch the interview with his wife?
@moraguerra9595
@moraguerra9595 Год назад
This girl is ridiculous and attention seeking. I’m not a fan of Hillsong at all, but she is using human weakness (which we all have) and rumors that she heard from her “sources” as a way to tear down and discredit the church as a whole. She focuses so much on the shortcomings and failures of the Lentz family and Hillsong church as a way to absolve her from any guilt or responsibility for her actions. What would you expect though, from a woman that is willing to knowingly be intimate with another woman’s husband? Carl is 100% responsible for his infidelity. Ranin is 100% responsible for choosing to move forward with the relationship even after she knew he had a family. She wasn’t some poor, manipulated girl that got caught up in a situation where she had no idea he had a wife. She says herself that she googled him shortly after they met. He was a prominent figure so she had the advantage of knowing all of the details of his celebrity life. She could see pictures of his wife and kids. If she really didn’t want to keep it going, she could have blocked him, notified his wife or the church, or been assertive with her message to him to leave her alone. Lots of options and she chose the most destructive.
@LiviAshL
@LiviAshL Год назад
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@tobirobertson4213
@tobirobertson4213 8 месяцев назад
She went on ex on a beach after this.
@GrgAProduction
@GrgAProduction 6 месяцев назад
“When two Narcissists play Love” 😂
@minarose3193
@minarose3193 2 месяца назад
ummm HES MARRIED not her
@moraguerra9595
@moraguerra9595 2 месяца назад
@@minarose3193 did you read the part where I said “Carl is 100% responsible for his infidelity”??
@Intothemystic77
@Intothemystic77 2 месяца назад
LOL “I don’t feel ashamed” wow she feels no shame for willfully participating in an affair while also playing it off like “he” was obsessed with her. What a narcissist.
@AngieIvylove
@AngieIvylove 7 месяцев назад
If someone tells you I’m married then you should not get involved then act like you are not at fault too!
@yc5141
@yc5141 11 месяцев назад
It would have been very classy for her to apologize, and she didn’t 👎🏼
@SweetsRN
@SweetsRN Год назад
I don’t believe she’s genuine. She was part of a documentary for a check. She knew he was married, she’s not underage, she doesn’t allege coercion or abuse from Carl. The videos from him to her are non confrontational and expressing care. Carl definitely is not suited for pastoral leadership but he took the fall for the church wanting to hide their horrific discretions. This girl latched on to him after googling him and prob thought she could get close to his celebrity friends. She’s still talking over 2 years later after an affair and then proceeds to judge Carl for giving his side for one interview. SMH. She’s bitter because he kept his family and she stayed trifling.
@LiviAshL
@LiviAshL Год назад
I agree I was confused after her get learning he was married and she continued. Mistress on a high horse.
@karleet
@karleet 3 месяца назад
I just listened to Carl and his wife’s first podcast today…I’d love it if you could have a conversation with them.
@ssantiagoesq
@ssantiagoesq 2 месяца назад
Got 16 minutes in and can’t stomach this. To say she is “single and can date who she wants it’s his issue” is disgusting. She knew he was married the 2nd day. She made a choice, she’s not a victim. She kept opening her door and found her 15 minutes.
@andretatesIII
@andretatesIII 11 месяцев назад
I’d love to see Ranin and Carl interview each other and then actually apologize.
@keiradrais-td9dz
@keiradrais-td9dz 7 месяцев назад
I had to watch this again. She manipulated him. She would tell him he’s trapped in a marriage for his career. He’s a kid trying to get out. He would cry on the edge of her bed saying how much she loves his wife. He was definitely guilty but also very coerced by her. She’s a jezebel
@yasminavila730
@yasminavila730 5 месяцев назад
100% 😢
@user-sq4th6bc4j
@user-sq4th6bc4j 2 месяца назад
@@yasminavila730- stop blaming the woman and stop calling woman Jezabels, maybe he fooled this woman and would tell her he loved her also -
@marniebeaton1551
@marniebeaton1551 3 месяца назад
She lost complete respect when she talked about his daughters private struggles. She clutches at any straw to try to destroy him and his wife with the words she speaks.. then takes it to the next level by speaking about his daughter. Venom. No class. And she is cashing in on a very painful and traumatic time for the Lent family. She is bitter to the bone that this beautiful family were able to come out the other side of this together... and stronger than ever.
@user-sq4th6bc4j
@user-sq4th6bc4j 2 месяца назад
Carl made that traumatic event happen - this is her side of the story
@yc5141
@yc5141 11 месяцев назад
Not okay to get involved with married people. And this story proves why. It harms all the people involved.
@elaine710713
@elaine710713 Год назад
She says he didn't apologize for what happened but I didn't hear her apologize either ...they were both wrong! Never been a fan of him.
@johnnywhite4341
@johnnywhite4341 8 месяцев назад
What about the fact she slept with a married man who was married and had children. And what about the mental hardship and trauma she caused to be inflicted upon his children aka child abuse. Her and the married man are both equally rotten but it doesnt excuse her from being a marriage wrecking child abuser.
@GloriaVlogs
@GloriaVlogs Год назад
Not a fan of him at all but she clearly loves the attention, not to mention her interviews are all different stories
@KelliHilario
@KelliHilario 2 месяца назад
As a Christian myself, I am so sorry that this is her experience, and perhaps, her reference for how Christians act.
@julieanne413
@julieanne413 2 месяца назад
I was thinking the exact same thing. Pretty horrifying.
@conservativemama3437
@conservativemama3437 11 месяцев назад
This is such a cringy interview-she plays the victim and the host just nods and agrees. Oh brother.
@keiradrais-td9dz
@keiradrais-td9dz 7 месяцев назад
The host was tiger woods mistress
@userdeleted56
@userdeleted56 2 месяца назад
😮​@@keiradrais-td9dz
@yucafries7681
@yucafries7681 2 месяца назад
Women can “friend zone” men but if he’s hot enough he’ll always be an option. Men can take romance completely off the table
@aportman58
@aportman58 8 месяцев назад
I totally get it and believe the infidelity occurred but this women is nothing but attention seeking and wants to sound like the innocent little girl 😡😡😡
@elisemiller2244
@elisemiller2244 2 месяца назад
This is any pastors worst nightmare for the mistress to talk 🤣😂😅
@jackieseiwaa4857
@jackieseiwaa4857 12 дней назад
Seriously, after several minutes into this podcast, I decided to tune out. My head was hurting because Rania remembered soo much detaii!!
@wdtyourassistant
@wdtyourassistant 28 дней назад
He has taken full responsibility for his actions. She should take full responsibility for getting involved in an affair with a married man.
@poninonis
@poninonis Год назад
i appreciated the interview a lot. Just watched the netflix doc and it really made me reflect on my experience in 12 step programs i've gone to in the past. Some of the best 'speakers' or people that would share at meetings often didn't practice what they preached, and some i know even took advantage of newcomers. So easy to talk the talk.
@4elizabeth
@4elizabeth Год назад
I’m sorry but if I was SA’d by someone and his wife punched me in the face, I wouldn’t go back to their home and watch their children. It was obviously consensual to the point where his wife punched her and she still decided to be with their family on Christmas Day rather than her own. Like cmon y’all.
@keiradrais-td9dz
@keiradrais-td9dz 7 месяцев назад
It sounds like she stalked him. Saw him on beiber Instagram, went to the church. Researched him. Found out where he did yoga in the morning and pretends to just bump into him
@marleneg7794
@marleneg7794 Год назад
Lentz called his extramarital encounters 'manipulated intamacy'...very aptly described.
@iamINTP
@iamINTP Год назад
Good for her for speaking for truth. It’s such a common theme for men to be in the wrong and play the victim and blame the woman when they CHOSE to go outside their relationship/marriage knowing the consequences.
@prettyguardian_violinistamber
EXACTLY!!!🙏
@GloriaVlogs
@GloriaVlogs Год назад
The truth is she knew he was married and didn’t care
@prettyguardian_violinistamber
@@GloriaVlogs Yes, everyone's entitled to their opinions; but, Ranin did mention that she actually CARED about the fact that he was married allegedly. And, "The actual truth is that HE KNEW HE WAS MARRIED AND DIDN'T CARE!!!" - Let THAT sink in for you!!! Ranin WAS NOT and I repeat WAS NOT the FIRST OR ONLY woman that HE had an extramarital affair with allegedly and SHE ACTUALLY took responsibility for her actions and vices. Sending love and much light to you and take care hun!
@FunesLegend
@FunesLegend 11 месяцев назад
​@@prettyguardian_violinistamberjust to be clear. Ranin is not a victim right? She's guilty too.
@TLC717
@TLC717 2 месяца назад
I'm sick of all the comments of ppl acting like she is to blame for him cheating on his wife. All the "she knew he was married" comments. HE KNEW HE WAS MARRIED! SHE DIDN'T FORCE HIM. Ppl are so quick to blame her. Even if she took off all of her clothes and threw herself at him, he could have honored his marriage and walked away. She holds blame for not walking away from a married man, absolutely. But he is even more to blame! He made a promise to his wife, this woman didn't.
@kellyewers5692
@kellyewers5692 Месяц назад
So the interviewer just agrees with her all the way through this . She knew he was married. She is not the innocent she thinks she is.
@fairyliciousa275
@fairyliciousa275 22 дня назад
He just used you to escape his responsibilities and pain from his childhood. You were easier,convenient and you allowed yourself to be someone with no moral compass. It didn’t matter who it was. It was about him finding someone willing to be sneaky with him. You didn’t expect anything from him like everyone else did. It was his ego not from his heart. He had to drink when he was with you. You were a new toy that gave him a dopamine high. His wife and family are real and from his heart on a soul level. He will always be with them.
@danielson1792
@danielson1792 2 месяца назад
Yeah she is not a victim. She had a role in all this. The only reason she even said anything was because Carl broke it off with her. She’s a home wrecker.
@user-sq4th6bc4j
@user-sq4th6bc4j 2 месяца назад
No he’s the home wrecker - he diddled his nanny also
@prettyguardian_violinistamber
This interview was ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT and I enjoyed EVERY SECOND of it too!!!🙆🏾‍♀🥰🙏🏾 For me, Ranin articulated her viewpoints and experiences very, VERY, well. And, she (Ranin) said it best where she states that “there was NO APOLOGY”. YES, when I watched the "Secrets of Hillsong" documentary, the Lentzes (Carl and Laura) were VERY unapologetic and took ZERO responsibility for their actions/behaviors and instead offered a number of deflections and blame-shifting which is STILL prevalent in existence from the BOTH OF THEM at the time of this commentary posting!!🥴😒🙄 Thank you so much for all that you do Rachel and Best wishes to you both!! 🙏🏾🥰💕🤗🙆🏾‍♀
@missunderstoodpodcast
@missunderstoodpodcast Год назад
Thank you so much!
@GrgAProduction
@GrgAProduction Год назад
She is just as horrible as them 😂 from her former interviews 2y ago she clearly was far more truthful of how little she actually cared about him having a wife. Now she totally cleaned up her act and makes it sound very different. In the end, it was just two Narcissists banging. They should have stayed together. Spare other normal peoples lives of their chaos.
@Ecaterina-ih5qb
@Ecaterina-ih5qb 2 месяца назад
Poor thing so innocent pffff. Is she for real?? Did he force her to hang around with him? Didn’t she hear from the second day he is a married man? For the host of this show who asked what is the problem. The problem is that she is hanging around with a strange man who is married that she just met at the park. Hello. Just don’t hang around with married man ladies especially when they are strangers. Stop playing the victim.
@dawnmckinney3665
@dawnmckinney3665 2 месяца назад
It’s so hard to listen to someone with zero accountability. Yes he is equally responsible but the moment you knew he was married are you serious or just gonna become friends and then you’re gonna change and invite him to your house? Does she not have any type of shame or dignity to bring up the very intimate details of his daughter? Praying for her, but it does seem like Carl and his family are coming on the other side of things and obviously this was definitely a very scandalous broken thing. And I could just say thank God that all of our sins are not shouted from the rooftops and even with the exposure there was grace & mercy.
@jacquelinebourque1849
@jacquelinebourque1849 Год назад
Ranin is one of the most genuinely kind people on this planet. I’m so proud of her for speaking out. She opened the door for others to speak out and took the brunt of the backlash. We should all be thanking her. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@GloriaVlogs
@GloriaVlogs Год назад
How can a kind woman do that to another woman? She has said he told her he was married. Not kind at all.
@skontheroad
@skontheroad 11 месяцев назад
A kind woman would have kept her mouth shut. It's one thing to tell your girlfriends. It's another to tell the world. And yet another to get paid for it! Disgusting!
@aaronroger3585
@aaronroger3585 2 месяца назад
She takes no responsibility 😂
@nrah2630
@nrah2630 2 месяца назад
Total narcissist right here.. you both did wrong sweetheart and both will have to answer to God about it! The fact that you are even still talking about this several years later shows that you are milking the attention and want some sort of fame. How about you find a real talent or occupational success and let that carry you into stardom instead of milking the fact that you allowed yourself to used by a married man and willingly play a part in trying to destroy someone’s family!
@props1028
@props1028 10 месяцев назад
This was a terrific interview. Cults are all around us and we don't see it. Until it gets ugly.
@annemison
@annemison Год назад
Brilliant podcast ❤ Two articulates and smart women talking. New suscriber here !
@user-ph6yh4hs9z
@user-ph6yh4hs9z Месяц назад
The name calling and disgust heaped upon Ranin Karim, a Muslim woman from Egypt who still struggles a bit with English, is truly shocking to see the level of hate directed at her. She is not even a Christian, but Carl Lentz was and NOBODY talks about him that way and he was the instigator! There is a double standard going on here, but that guy is such a smooth talking manipulator he has convinced people he is the one wronged! And people eat it with a spoon. This guy has a history of being a ‘player’ since high school, according to a former class mate at that school - and he has never stopped manipulating. Every interview becomes the Carl Lentz show. His mouth says the right things , but by the end you realize, he made it all about him AGAIN. Both parties were in the wrong, but the master manipulator was Lentz.
@Shaywilson34
@Shaywilson34 Год назад
I see where she says people should be thankful she exposed this affair and exposed the church, yes I'm sure everyone is grateful for that. However, she STILL invited a married man into her home & life knowing he was married. So her not taking accountability for that is on her. It does not matter that he pursued her, she should have shut that down. So sorry, you are a home wrecker. You still had an affair with a married man. Thanks for exposing the church though!
@savanaashleigh626
@savanaashleigh626 Год назад
He wrecked his own home. They were both wrong but she didn’t destroy the home, he did.
@Shaywilson34
@Shaywilson34 Год назад
@@savanaashleigh626 I didn’t say he didn’t wreck his own home, but she is trying to act like she is innocent which she is not, she knew he was married, still slept with him, so yes, she’s a homewrecker.
@prettyguardian_violinistamber
I hear you and completely understand your viewpoint!! Carl Lentz ALLEGEDLY had extra-marital affairs LONG BEFORE Ranin came onto the scene. 😥 He (Carl Lentz) ALLEGEDLY ALSO had "issues of moral failings" LONG BEFORE he even attended Hillsong College too....For me, Ranin DOES take accountability for her actions. Ranin ALSO emphasized in the interview how GOOD Carl Lentz is at coercion and manipulating not only herself but others. When Ranin spoke, for me, and this is just my perspective, it just showed how strong of a NARCISSISTIC PERSONALITY DISORDER, CARL LENTZ HAS which is VERY challenging to break free from ANY NARCISSTIST FOR ANYONE!!! Best wishes to you and everyone here!!!🤗
@prettyguardian_violinistamber
@@savanaashleigh626 ABSOLUTELY and I AGREE WITH YOU 💯PERCENT SAVANA!! And, he (Carl Lentz) [allegedly] destroyed that home LOOONNNNGGG BEFORE RANIN CAME ONTO THE SCENE!! 👏#sorryfolks - listen to the stories of the former congregants/volunteers at Hillsong NYC. It will and does help to corroborate A LOT of the narratives that are repetitive in theme presently, some of which are - "he's such a great actor, never apologizes, never takes responsibility of his own incredulous behavior/actions, misogynistic, abusive emotionally/mentally/spiritually/sexually, great manipulator, ABLE TO CRY ON CUE, etc....this should help to connect the dots for more people (hopefully)....Best wishes to you and everyone here!!💜
@prazup49
@prazup49 2 месяца назад
She is not a hero, and he did apologize, for all the people that he hurt. Girl bye
@godknowsakpan999
@godknowsakpan999 8 месяцев назад
I can see it in Ranin' voice, she still in love with Carl, just that he's a married man, she destroy his career, good to call him and apologize maybe, afterall you guys are not enemies.
@TLC717
@TLC717 2 месяца назад
He destroyed his career! She shouldn't have had a relationship with him, but he is responsible for his own actions! She didn't have a commitment to his wife, he did. She's wrong for her part but he is even more wrong. My (now) ex-husband had an affair and I hated the woman. I felt like she should have cared more about what it would do to me because she is a woman. It hurt worse to blame him but I had to come to the realization that he owed me truth and faithfulness. He was supposed to love me and not hurt me. It was easy for her because she didn't care about me, she cared about herself. The appropriate blame should be placed on each of them but she is not more to blame than he is.
@thomaswanning3127
@thomaswanning3127 10 месяцев назад
Funny how she believes it is ALL his doing. She had Nothing to do with their affair. She just didn’t know how to say, “ No Thank You. You are married with children. Go home to your family.” And make sue you apologize to your wife. It’s not up to me to apologize to her, I had no part in this!”
@jennypalayatha2346
@jennypalayatha2346 2 месяца назад
I just cannot believe how 1 sided this mistress is we all know obviously that carl is accountable 4 his actions but seriously SHE KNEW HE WAS MARRIED AND STILL WENT AHEAD WITH IT!!! Hws that 4 her not having MORALS!
@user-sq4th6bc4j
@user-sq4th6bc4j 2 месяца назад
She didn’t have morals but he’s the absolute pits - he was a pastor of a mega church and was preaching and lying to everyone including his wife - he is the snake
@Jess_quez
@Jess_quez 2 месяца назад
He continued to pursue her because she made it clear that she was willing to entertain him even though he said he was married. Not because he was obsessed or in love with her. These men don’t care about or love these side chicks and he obviously wasn’t leaving his wife. She was definitely in the wrong for entertaining a married man. He was using her and she fell for it.
@prazup49
@prazup49 8 дней назад
Wow, we see right through you, and you are trying to convince us, otherwise. 🙏🏽🙏🏽
@dalehoward3704
@dalehoward3704 Год назад
Lenz apparently had multiple affairs including with a lady who worked in his house (housekeeper?). Ranin is the most well known. If you're having trouble in your marriage, you don't turn outward to someone else, you turn inward and solve the problem with your spouse. Adultery issues, sex scandals and rap/ seem to run through this church and many so called Houses of God.
@lee7533.
@lee7533. 2 месяца назад
Girl please 🙄🙄
@Clickybux
@Clickybux 2 месяца назад
"I didn't go to Hillsong because I'm Christian, I went for the healing..." 🙄
@UnitedSchemerCA
@UnitedSchemerCA 8 месяцев назад
She still clout chasing she definitely isn’t innocent in this situation smh
@spmoran4703
@spmoran4703 7 месяцев назад
She is not innocent . But she is truthful.
@tasha1985
@tasha1985 7 месяцев назад
Bless her heart I give her credit for sharing her story. But she has no self-respect, Value or Self- esteem. To have a man tell you he's married with a family and still go on having sex with him is just sad, I feel bad for her.
@alissasteiner4642
@alissasteiner4642 Год назад
What a great interview with Ranin speaking her truth.
@htht856
@htht856 Год назад
There's only one truth and Ranins story is likely the absolute truth.
@MSA-uj7cp
@MSA-uj7cp 6 месяцев назад
Her "truth" is that she had an affair with a married man.... knowing that he was a married man. Both were wrong.
@ec-wq7jn
@ec-wq7jn Месяц назад
I would of liked to hear more of her story w/ Carl. It seem like she held back on their personal relationship. This was just a recap of The Hillsong Documentary.
@sinailemor467
@sinailemor467 3 дня назад
She’s no victim. She knew from jump street he was married. He told her on Day 2. She could’ve said no then. She had as much responsibility in this and owned none of it!
@melinehhacopians1184
@melinehhacopians1184 Год назад
Great work 👏
@missunderstoodpodcast
@missunderstoodpodcast Год назад
Thank you!
@prettyguardian_violinistamber
Also, for me, this interview somewhat coincides with the interview that you (Rachel) did with Therapist Vanessa Reiser regarding Narcissistic Abuse.😉
@chikamsoodume3601
@chikamsoodume3601 2 месяца назад
You should have a conversation with all 3- Carl , the wife and the mistress
@chrystaldeibel2554
@chrystaldeibel2554 2 месяца назад
Would much rather hear the Carl and Laura story...this mistress is like Stormy Daniels...$$$$
@user-sq4th6bc4j
@user-sq4th6bc4j 2 месяца назад
Carl is all about money
@Totalblack0
@Totalblack0 Месяц назад
Completely understand what she means as I have exactly same experience.
@khill1652
@khill1652 Год назад
This was such a great interview. As a life long Christian, let me apologize to you. This was embarrassing and shameful and grievous to the heart of the Christ I serve and anyone who follows him in spirit and in truth. I have the same attitude of the rock concert type atmosphere and celebrity worshiping culture that you ladies had. It’s just gross. I don’t think it’s representative of the heart of God at all. I don’t know Lentz or Houston personally but according to scripture, I can judge their fruit and frankly it’s just rotten. It does give me an even stronger desire to represent Christ in a better way. I’m a sinner saved by grace and have compassion for others but our leaders must be better and do better. God bless you both. Hopefully you will get to meet and know someone in your personal lives that exhibits the true nature of Christ.
@htht856
@htht856 Год назад
Stfu you don't need to apologize to anyone, you aren't carl. Quit trying to find some affirmation and approval. Stfu
@techateacha
@techateacha Год назад
Coming from a fellow Christian, I don’t think you need to apologize. You’re not the pastor who went on to have extra marital affairs. I listened to Carl a lot so many years ago until I saw his problematic messaging even before this affair surfaced.
@marleneg7794
@marleneg7794 Год назад
I am so glad I watched this interview becasue I had just given him a pass after watching the documentary. Wrong. He needs to stow it and serve at home with his family for the rest of his life...if he can make the sacrifice.
@prettyguardian_violinistamber
@@marleneg7794 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌 - "serving at home with his family for the rest of his life" - I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU THERE!!! 🙏🙏🙏
@Mommyandbell
@Mommyandbell 10 месяцев назад
There is not a Bible preaching church that accepts sexual immorality (including homosexuality) neither is there a Muslim mosque. What does this have to do with her affair? 35:08
@keiradrais-td9dz
@keiradrais-td9dz 7 месяцев назад
She’s projecting. Everyone and everything else is wrong. She is the “victim” lol
@prazup49
@prazup49 2 месяца назад
It takes two, stop, be honest with yourself and you get help with your part. He is doing his own work, it was beyond you, and not about you.
@madivirden443
@madivirden443 10 месяцев назад
So I was watching this to be more informed about the situation with Hillsong, and as a Christian myself, This is all just awful. But not at all surprising. No person is too far from a fall if pride is involved and I see pride all over this. The original sin of Satan himself. And everything they are discussing is situational, but it really revealed that they don’t know much about the God of the Bible to think that the church should accept gay marriage ect. When that is a direct command of God. So is adultery and every other sin yes. We shouldn’t expect a church to allow adultery and we shouldn’t expect a church to accept gay marriage and all of that when the Bible clearly models none of that is the way to healthy commune with God and His people. It was just silly to me they were expecting a church to just “accept gay marriage” no like read the Bible that’s not accepted by God just as much as any sexual sin or any sin at all is not acceptable according to His standard. Thank goodness for the cross that brings all truth to clarity and helps us live it out. The answer is Jesus !!!
@keiradrais-td9dz
@keiradrais-td9dz 7 месяцев назад
Two well known mistresses doing a podcast together agreeing with ruining marriages
@crispinswainstonharrison9042
@crispinswainstonharrison9042 10 месяцев назад
He’s a wonderful motivational speaker.
@Shannanagins14
@Shannanagins14 4 месяца назад
If you find out your love interest is married, man or woman, it is incumbent on you to shut it down immediately lest you paint yourself as a homewrecker. Her entertaining his attention knowing he was married is where she lost me. Yes he was absolutely wrong for cheating on his wife.. but she knew he was married and continued to play her part so to speak. Having said that, he was the one who took a vow to be faithful to his wife. He was the one who violated that vow.
@briancornish5857
@briancornish5857 Год назад
At one time in our Culture it was even a SHAME to even discuss such matters in Public or show your face let alone "Let's Talk About it"....No Shame in Anyone's Game here... Disgusting.
@snickerzruiz8405
@snickerzruiz8405 5 месяцев назад
Wow so selfish and full of ego
@hermyejigu6089
@hermyejigu6089 20 дней назад
her husband will cheat and he won’t even apologize!!! she will be hurt more than Laura!!!
@tma2444
@tma2444 2 месяца назад
Jezebel.
@idexxsecrag3730
@idexxsecrag3730 2 месяца назад
Jesus Christ is God
@Vin-og2dj
@Vin-og2dj Месяц назад
If anything - all its done is exposed what was in her heart.... Praying for her.
@swim2kill
@swim2kill 6 месяцев назад
Thirsty for attention
@k-cera
@k-cera 23 дня назад
Both men and women can have a Jezabel spirit. Lusts of the flesh taking over and logic. He told her he was married and atthat very point she should of had NOTHING to do with him not even friends. Its cold hearted of her to say she did the church favour or it would have happened to someone else ! How ridiculous. It appears that Carl and bis family ae taking all the necessary steps to heal but I wonder if she could admit to being an adultress, it doesnt sound like she even cares.
@user-pw2vj5sh2m
@user-pw2vj5sh2m 2 месяца назад
Shes doing all this for money its your own fault for getting involved with him.
@chb4200
@chb4200 10 месяцев назад
Only God is in control, we all fall short in life
@bethehope9799
@bethehope9799 Год назад
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement,[i] through the shedding of his blood-to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished- 26 he did it to demonstrate his righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.
@deborahgonzalezknight168
@deborahgonzalezknight168 8 месяцев назад
He is a narcissist. And she wasnt even a christian. He drinks??? He is not a christian. As for being handsome, he is not at all.
@yucafries7681
@yucafries7681 2 месяца назад
Drinking is not proscribed in Christianity. Drunkenness is the sin
@valmariehaywood2462
@valmariehaywood2462 2 месяца назад
He got swept up In the sinful lifestyle of celebrities, probably thinking he is one too. Infedelity, sexual misconduct, scandals, money mismanagement seems to be the corner stone of Hillsong these days. She needs not to apologize to the world. For what?
@blackchickadee1
@blackchickadee1 Месяц назад
She still loves him and is reliving it over and over, may she get the healing and also get over it.
@jenniferbrowne8645
@jenniferbrowne8645 Год назад
U shld b in the word of God, she his wrong and the pastor is wrong u both HV sin, repent n turn to God and stopped interviewing sin
@stacygutierrez1157
@stacygutierrez1157 2 месяца назад
Homegirl didn’t steal shit
@hermyejigu6089
@hermyejigu6089 20 дней назад
are people okay????!!
@HippoBoy999
@HippoBoy999 6 месяцев назад
She makes it seem like it was all his fault and how he was obsessed she sounds hurt and bitter
@michaelbaccetti1583
@michaelbaccetti1583 2 месяца назад
Carl is creepy as hell.
@Mommyandbell
@Mommyandbell 10 месяцев назад
54:41 healthy people aren’t looking for salvation but it’s universal? I’m so confused. Also if this is a church of the best looking people what exactly constitutes them as unhealthy
@lilibethvilella
@lilibethvilella 2 месяца назад
Would love to talk divorce as a pastor. Remarriage. Healing. On your podcast. Just published a book on healing forward as woman
@imawake11
@imawake11 2 месяца назад
Everyone always blames the mistress and that’s a bunch of BS. First off she wasn’t cheating so let’s get that straight. 9 times out of 10 the person who is cheating makes that decision. Meaning they gave it thought and said yep I’m going to cheat on my spouse so place the blame there folks. These people are also great liars. They lie to the soon to be mistress because remember the cheater is setting the stage and most times is gonna be some type of victim. Then the lying to the spouse starts and so the game is on then. Stop blaming the mistress. I’m so sick of this. This guy is a douche bag.
@user-ph6yh4hs9z
@user-ph6yh4hs9z Месяц назад
Truth, saw it happen to a friend of mine. I couldnt talk her out of spending time w him and believing what he said. She was sooo under his spell! Finally her mom found out and called him and threatened to have him prosecuted if he didnt break it off. He disappeared then.
@helenal.7881
@helenal.7881 2 месяца назад
Rachel: i LOVE your Jeans!! You need to share where you got them. 💗
@dmgsoultogetherness6667
@dmgsoultogetherness6667 Год назад
Haram..
@jillstark6381
@jillstark6381 2 месяца назад
No one would thank you, home wrecker. He’s at fault but you could’ve blocked him and walked away. Stop playing the victim.
@normansindana4366
@normansindana4366 Год назад
Ranin you are so sober in your answers and at ease all the way, honesty just flows from your disclosure and you tried many times to stop the affair, you are human and did what you could
@deborahclark2558
@deborahclark2558 22 дня назад
Dreadful woman...So innocent ..lol
@deborahclark2558
@deborahclark2558 22 дня назад
Not very bright
@lizellewebber905
@lizellewebber905 18 дней назад
You are guilty as sin - stop playing victim - it is because of people like you that families are torn apart - at least Carl has apologised publicly - what have you done? Will never watch this podcast again
@nic4633
@nic4633 Месяц назад
What a horrible podcast
@skontheroad
@skontheroad 11 месяцев назад
I would have been interested in listening to this, but as it starts off completely one-sided, telling us how "genuinely kind" that trollop supposedly is, and not letting us decide for ourselves.... I'll just go back to one of the other many places she sold her story to... her very rehearsed, innocent tale of how it all was all him. Not her....all him. Yeah sure!
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