Ranked 2.0 Is A Failure 

I'm not saying the old system was better, but at least you had to work for your rank. Now they just hand out Champ like a participation reward. If you wanna argue with me on this, I'm live right now: twitch.tv/varsitygaming

In my own experience at least, I've found that since ranked 2.0 it was LESS common for games to end in 6 rounds or more. I feel like teams are usually incredibly unbalanced and the majority of my ranked games end as 4-0s or 4-1s.

I haven’t really enjoyed ranked 2.0 good to see people agree

I went into ranked 2.0 with high hopes as a solo player. I quit playing for years so was excited to see what level I was now and my goal was to get to gold or emerald and hold that at the minimum. Now I’m copper playing champion skilled players and of course I’m losing and feel like I’m getting worse

To me, the Ranked 2.0 was all about money. With the old rank system, Ubisoft discovered what happens over time with the player base. Say for example, you've been grinding for a no. of Seasons trying to get better. You reached Bronze or Gold or whatever and then you're stuck. No matter how hard you try, you can't go higher. Once you realize that, what incentive do you have to play more ? None. Zero. In higher ranks, another problem emerged. The scarcity of players !. I still remember watching Macie Jay on stream and he would sit around waiting for up to 10 to 15 minutes to find a match. Now, Macie has always been, in the old rank system, a Plat one at best. So if Plat player had such a hard time finding a match, one can correctly assume that a Champion player ( being even fewer in numbers ) would have an ever harder time finding a match. So how do you solve this problem ? Easy ! Just shift everybody to the right of the Graph by the thousands. Presto ! Problem solved. How is this related to money ? That's an easy one. If Bronze players stopped playing, what incentives would they have to buy Cosmetics ( Elites, Esport Sets, Pro League Sets, etc ) ? If higher ranked players, Plats and Champions, couldn't find a match, why would they bother wasting money on Cosmetics ? None. So Ubi had to change the system, not because there was something wrong with it, it was just to keep the player base from dropping and keep the cash flow coming. That's all there is to it.

Pengu saying "a rank is just a couple of pixels on your screen" is the same as me saying "why are you mad you lost the finals in pro league? It's just a game" just as varcity said, some people will care about thier rank

My experience with ranked 2.0 can be summed up from a match yesterday. I just started and I’m in bronze and match with 3 diamonds. I’ve never hit diamond. The highest I’ve hit was gold years ago and I never really touched ranked after that.

For the people that are copper going against champs its even worse because of the rewards system, you are a champ level play getting the same rewards as a hardstuck copper. Edit: I think if you have a stack of a copper 2 silvers a plat and a champ, you should go against either a stack of the same skill or a non stack of ~ 1 rank higher so like a bronze 2 golds a diamond and a champ

This is why i love Varsity. He tells it how it is and isn't afraid to upset big brother Ubi.

Even after ranked 2.0 this game still gives you lower rank teammates & enemies that are in your rank or even higher. Solo/duo queing is still as hard as before.

Me and my friend have had a hell of a time this season. I just came back after about a year hiatus while my friend has been consistently playing. I've even playing since year 2 and he's been playing for the last 2. It's a nightmare. We did alright in the beginning of the season. He's G5 I made it to G1. Then we hit a wall like I've never experienced in rank. We are about 4-15 over our last couple ranked sessions and it's not even close games. It's just absolutely insane enemy teams that don't miss a shot, drone like their in pro league and coordinate every push. Meanwhile our other 3 randos are lost. Roamers who don't know how to roam and get picked off immediately. People who don't use utility. Dead comms. It's not even close. It felt like as soon as we hit gold we started going against people breaking into plat but our teammates were barely making it out of silver at best. It doesnt make sense.

What I don't see content creators mention is how hard it is to leave copper and bronze now, which is why over 1/3 of the community is stuck there. Before ranked 2.0 I was Gold 1, now I can barely maintain my place in bronze, while I'm in a squad with 2 guys who used to be high plats and are facing the same problem as me. All of our matches are either us getting crushed or utterly destroying the enemy team, close matches are a rarity. I also hear a lot said about getting 100 elo for a win and only losing 8 for a loss. I haven't seen anything like that. I gain 40 elo per win and lose anywhere between 20-40 for a loss(I haven't counted the exact number). It's certainly not for a lack of trying, since all of us have over 100 ranked matches and KDs over 1.2. EDIT: For the people calling it a skill issue, let me remind you all of us have good KDs, and were comfortable Gold 1/Plat before Ranked 2.0. We don't gain 100 elo per win as some people are saying, we only get around 40, so to advance a single rank requires 3 victories in a row, and we lose somewhere between 20-40 elo per loss so it's very much a quagmire.

One of the most frustration parts about the new ranked system is you can physically feel the matchmaking not working well, you feel the difficulty of the opponents drastically change game from game, one match the enemy team can barely get 3-4 kills over the whole match then in 3-4 games you have to slog it out going trade for trade max OT, before you get another 3 games of an enemy who can barely setup sites and cant win any gunfights, its not a smooth or enjoyable experience feeling the matchmaking working, nor is it a fun experience playing games when the enemy is on a different planet in terms of skill difference, i've had multiple games this season where we 4-0'd a team any they literally had 1 kill between them the whole game and it just feels like a waste of our time and obviously is a terrible experience for the teams on the receiving side of it. This is even more exaggerated if you solo Q , most of the solo Q games i've done have put me with 4 people who are on the opposite spectrum of the ranked ladder then versus us against 5 stacks of low diamonds/champs leaving my teammates all tilted they are playing well outside their ranks, and leaving me tilted that its pretty much up to myself to win a round through no fault of my randoms

I can't even win a game or get kills in ranked 2.0

why couldn't we just get a system that rewards individual skill.. but also improves solo que experience..

In Halo 5 they had a system within their ranking system that would take into account your objective play and kills and would give you more CSR (competitive skill rating) if you were playing obj and won, but it would also lessen the CSR loss if you were playing the obj and lost. Of course they tried to rewrite the book with the new Halo's ranked and that didn't go well, but the point is it's possible to give people more rewards for being a team player instead of just winning a match. And I feel like a system like that would be a true "ranked 2.0"

First off, I want to say I love your content. That being said. I've been saying this from day one. They have all these stats for the game and the only thing they look at for your rank is W/L. They have a point system built into the game but those points mean nothing except for who gets MVP at the end. I also believe that games that go to 7-9 rounds should not affect your MMR as much because that match evidently could've gone either way, that's why it's called overtime. The ranked system has never felt "fair" to begin with but not using all these tools that you clearly have at your disposal to mean something is just frustrating.

I was gold before the change but Ranked 2.0 made games either really easy to win, or just getting curb stomped. Really frustrating imo.

One change I would agree with is adding a system where you won't start at Copper V at the end of each season. It'll feel less tedious and less of a grind to get to your desired rank, for example, moving from Champion to emerald, emerald to gold, and vice-versa.

Wdym I love being a gold level player playing against champions its such a great feature 😂😂

This system seems to really reward those who put time in. No matter what your skill is it seems you can place well beyond that given pure games played. I don't play 400 matches a season because life, other games I enjoy, and time limit my ability to play. If you are going to do a ladder rank then make it to where you are playing other people in that ladder rank, ie bronze versus bronze. This just feels like a secondary battle pass now.

ranked 2.0 makes playing the game a 50/50. 50% you destroy without even doing much or 50% you get abostuley ripped through by the enemy team.

I was consistently a plat player the last few years before solar raid. I wasn’t able to play much and finished in gold. The game this season thought my skill level was silver, so once I got there my gains slowed to a crawl. I had to scrape and claw just to get back to plat. The system sucks

Amen bro! Make us earn our ranks. This rank model is intended to make players play more at the expense of FUN.

I was Diamond 3 before Ranked 2.0 and didn't really play much but always have been playing Champs. Now that I realised how much I love the game and play more than before I feel bad for getting way too close to champ because this is not the way I wanted to reach it...

The mmr system does not work. I have played less than 50 ranked matches in total and am now being matched with people that have 1000 ranked games played. Byebye forever Siege, I'm just going to go play all those other games with functioning mmr systems. CS GO, Apex and League here we go!

They should have two ranks one that shows your dedication to the game where your rank in this category is determained by time spent playing ranked and then a rank that shows your skill level and is determined by your performance in the game like w/l and Kd numbers

Last season I peaked at Diamond 3. In the old system, I had only ever reached Plat 2. This season I played from Copper 5 all the way to Emerald 1, only facing Diamonds and Champions in each division. My kd-ratio has gone down from 1.15, which isn't great to begin with, all the way down to 0.8. The game isn't fun anymore, because I get destroyed by some Siege god every match. I only keep playing, because a friend of mine keeps asking me to play with him, but we get tilted after a couple of matches and we stop.

I came back to siege when i heard it got a huge update and coming back as a former platinum and knowing how many hours i spent to get there it feels like they took it all away. It feels like the older players are getting shafted with every new update

I'm just morally done with the game rn. in QP I keep facing diamonds and higher when I'm just a silver so I lose, I play unranked, I lose. Then when I'll win a few games in ranked then I lose double the amount. It feels like I just can't get a balanced experience. Losing so much due to not just my low morale, but the broken state of the game is just making me miserable. But I can't stop playing the game bc this is the only game me and my friend play together. I get on now and the second I look at the game I just feel sad and pissed off knowing my good day is about to be ruined.

The old system was better but needed some changes to make it even better, it didn’t need to get scrapped completely

I bought the game last month and started playing rank. I won 2 of my first 3 games, and for some reason the rank system thought I was a plat. So I started playing stacked plat players, whereas my teammates were true coppers (to put it nicely). I lost the next 9 games in a row. I almost quit the game, but didn't because I had faith in Ubi's system. Ubi also needs to address the MMR impact due to teammates disconnecting/leaving mid-game. This happens a lot as a solo-queue player.

The worst thing is that ubi will probably leave it as it is, because they're just think that they cannot say "oh its bad, lets just pull back the old one..."

I've been Silver rank for the past seasons in ranked 1.0, but I'm still stuck in copper in ranked 2.0, because it gives me +11 ELO for winning, but it gives me -67 ELO for losing. I'm very frustrated rn because the game just wants to keep me in copper. 💀

Never heard if the cost system i think that would be great for determining your rank

Its also off by a small margin. I'm pretty sure i got placed in low gold and my friends were placed in plat/emerald. But i've pretty much always had the best stats and best k/d so now im stuck in a world where all my friends are ranking up faster than me while also losing less than me while playing. Its an absolutely awfull experience being topfragger and still getting a smaller reward every game. we've also consistently had silver teammates and been facing emeralds, plats, diamonds. I've even ended up in a match against champs a couple of times. I feel like the playerbase has gotten bigger but the balance of teams from copper all the way to plat has been completely ruined.

The 10 placement games were so exciting. Now the first 30-40 games feel like a chore. I mean how wrong could they get it

As someone who loves playing ranked in every game from halo to siege, I play so I can legitimately feel and see myself improving. The ranked 2.0 system has me not giving a single fuck about ranked in siege and thus not caring about the game because I can out that time and effort into a game that actually respects the time and effort I put in instead of just pushing me to finish another battlepass

'Everyone got champ' My brother in Christ, I am Bronze

the skill meassures dont take the max rank, people are boosting by queueing with very low skill level players this is what they call "fake champs" a decent player will post asking for golds or silvers to play and "carry" them and then they get free lobbies thats how champs are getting so high into champ now if they arent good (you will notice in games in the lower ranks there is always 1 guy on the other team who is hard carrying and way better than everyone else in the lobby)

I thought I was just getting worse, but this hilariously stupid rank pairing makes me feel a bit better.

I used to be mid/high gold, occasionally low plat in ranked 1.0 Can’t say I’m a fan of now trying to get through silver and play multiple emeralds and diamonds each game.

I totally agree. Rank doesn’t matter anymore. I’m a bronze/silver player at best, and even I could reach champ if I grinder enough. That’s a problem.

My copper experience in the ranked games is just a smoking pile of shit. When I lose, I almost never feel like I could have done something the other way. And winning is always feels like i am Anakin in the child room. It's either my team gets decimates to shreds, or we are fighting against mindless zombies. Oh, yeah, as I am in the copper, I got around 30 points for a win, and got minus 30 or so when I lose. It's like i am stuck in this swamp, I cannot push through it. After all, unranked is the same, but without the shame of every game.

his point about people playing ranked together and targeting the highest rank is flawed in one big way, it would discourage new players to play with good players that they are friends with, because the MMR system won't let them learn. I think what they can do is add a weighted value to the ranks, so copper has a 0.50 weight, bronze has a 0.60 weight, silver a 0.90 weight, gold a 1.10 weight, plat 1.30, emerald 1.50, diamond 2.0 and Champion can be the most weighted with a 5.0 (just example numbers). all they have to do is make a mean score system where certain ranks are in a mean score range. meaning if a champ plays with some coppers, he will get plat+ ranks guranteed, because while yes the champ guy is gonna pop off in those lobbies STILL, he has walking liabilities on his team such as his Copper teammates, I get what you mean but to maximize fairness a system in this vein would be MUCH more beneficial for the game and encourage players to play with good players to learn the game, cus instead of facing Champions which are supposed to be the best of the best. They will face high ranked players who can get them into the mindset of high rank play and get them familiar with what its like, cus everyone can agree that each rank, the game slowly evolves to a refined level. Let new players experience it while still hanging out with their friends that are good, I think it will double if not triple the amount of players in ranked.

This explains a lot about the people with emerald/Diamond/champion cards and charms in my lobbies when I'm only in low gold lol

13:40 that's a very good change actually it would give a strong incentive to play some ranked lol the hyperfocus on winning in siege by only giving rewards when you win is fun, but at some point its getting very toxic

One thing about cross platform that sucks is communication, say you’re in a four stack on Xbox and the solo queue player on PlayStation picks up defuse.. there’s no way to communicate a push or ask them to drop bomb, a simple way to fix this is by adding a chat option for teams as it has been on PC since the existence of siege. I’ve lost games because of no communication and it is very frustrating not being able to give call outs or anything

I believe the graph that ubi presented says it all. No game's ranked system should jump from 1,3k top players to 13k. And from 5% of all the population is in Copper V to 50% (like really).

This was a change that fixed absolutely nothing and fucked up everything I used to love about ranked and now I don't even want to play it anymore. Ranks mean nothing and I'm a gold/plat player who is now going against champions in my lobbies and cant get out of gold. Ranked 2.0 is a failure and needs to be fixed or reverted. People are getting placed way higher than they should, me included, and then are just stuck that rank unless you go on an absolute godly win streak. One of the dumbest changes in my time playing this game and for the love of god I hope this can be resolved, too bad even if it does it'll probably be a year or two before they even say they are looking into it. The devs are so disconnected with the community. This is just sad and I have no idea how this got through play tests.

The amount of games I've played and lost because coppers and silvers are stacking with champs and plats that have had the rank for the past 3 seasons is insane. I've quit playing ranked because of it

Ranked 2.0 be like: >>Win games, up to diamond 2 >>Get dogwater teammates, loose up to 15 games, get to diamond 5 >>Have 1 win, 2 loses combo, so as a result, in 3 games you lose only 5-6 elo >>Get wins (again), have only 1 game left till diamond 1 >>Get swarmed by cheaters, against some you may play up to 3 games in a row. Lose to diamond 5 agains >>Cycle repeats

as someone trying to get back into siege, it's incredibly difficult because of the lack of skill reset and placement matches. I'm facing champions in QUICKPLAY. I'm just trying to relearn how to aim and but because I was Plat 2 a year ago it thinks I'm still good. I have to make a smurf just to possibly even enjoy the game.

I absolutely jate ranked 2.0... before ranked 2.0 my highest MMR was about 3600 and I was Plat2, but i averaged about 2900-3000 Gold1/Plat3. In my first ranked 2.0 season I was able to get myself all the way to 3800 MMR which was Emerald2. This season has been awful. I continually go up against Champs with literal Golds and Silvers on my team. I am almost never the lowest rank on my team, and never higher rank than the opposing team. At this point in the season, I am now winning 16rp and losing 26rp. I've literally gotten to a point where I have zero incentive to play ranked. Im stuck in Plat1/Emerald5 now and cannont progress. Worst part is even after dropping in rank and losing skill, im still matched up against champions. There should never be a point in a ranking system where the game says: "this is your rank, youre done here so fuck off" i hate it

already a banger 10 seconds in.

I believe, from discussing with people in my games that my hidden mmr should be high gold to plat 1. I have definitely noticed that wayyyy more games end up being a complete landslide, whereas ranked 1.0 had wayyyyy more matches go to overtime…

Wow ubi did a good job didnt even know there was a demotion shield

There is a lot of causation without correlation on Ubisoft's part. They're also presenting data when it works with what they want to show.

oh lord he is bringing out the whiteboard

Back in 2020 I hit plat. I then stopped playing for years because I lost my account and had no motivation to buy all the operators again. This season I started playing again, grinding from level 0 to 50. Bought all the operators so that I could compete when I got to play ranked. My first 2 games I played above average 7-8 frag games with a record of 1-1, and was placed in copper 4. Now every game I play I play against diamonds and champions with teammates that don’t know the layout of upstairs clubhouse. Honestly don’t wanna play the game anymore it just seems impossible to rank up

And varsity your take on how you feel about ranked feeling rewarding is such a deep subject because peak seige was when you felt you deserved the rank you grinded for

I remember when I actually used to be scared of diamonds, now I beat most diamonds in ranked lmao

a ranked rework where gridlock wiggles her toes in the camera would save siege

On top of everything you talked about in this video, the team balancing is obviously terribly flawed. In my own experience, playing with the same 4-5 stack everyday we would either play against people way worse than us or way better than us. This lead to the majority of games being 4-0 or 4-1. Also, i feel like this started happening towards the later half of the season. In the beginning, I won most of my games getting up to mid diamond, then in the end of the season we lost most of our games and i ended up back in high emerald. Another point, is that people with the same 1.0 rank as me had different hidden skill ratings, me and my friends were both plat 2 in 1.0, and in 2.0 he got all the way to champ before he started losing a considerable amount of rp while i started losing more than i was gaining at around diamond 5. felt like ranting here thx for coming to my ted talk

I also think hidden MMR transfers from console to PC. I got my first PC this year and went to play rainbow and said why not try ranked and I was playing against plats and diamonds when I just started on PC and on console I’m usually high plat and diamond

There is no way Ubisoft messed up their ranking system this bad. The worst part is this is worse for champion players. Arguably there most loyal dedicated percentage of their fan base 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Facts no cap, he spitting facts

Just played a game with my friend, Were both mid gold. The other 3 players were mid silver to high bronze. The other team had 2 high platinum and the rest were high silver. The plat guys carried and shredded everyone... The silvers would die withing the first 30 seconds of the round and leave my friend and I in a 2v5... Doesn't seem fair to matchmake me with plat when I know I'm not that good let alone no damn silver is gonna compete with that. Matchmaking has been atrocious but other than that I don't mind the grind to get to the higher ranks.

I've finally uninstalled this game after 7-8 years.. It's sad but every new update just ruins the game.. also there seems to be a cheating problem still lol

I started playing siege 2 years ago and used to play it very very casually. I’d do my placement matches, land in silver, drop down to bronze and then just play unranked. for the rest of the past 3 seasons I’ve been playing a lot more and with the launch of ranked 2.0 I thought it would be a great opportunity for me to solo queue and finally land in gold or even plat, however given my previous rank history, the game thought I belonged in silver and was stuck there even after I had a 1.3 kd and a 1.6 win rate. I had to win 5 matches in a row just to rank up from silver 2 into silver 1 I’m fairly certain I could’ve achieved this rank with the old system via placement matches but now I’m hardstuck here and it’s a chore to get out despite having a good win rate. I’m sure more people are hardstuck than ever before. The only people who have rank mobility are people who were previous plats which the game awards them with 100+ mmr per win

No porn tab? You've fallen my boy

The worst part is, we already had a way to see how much people played that is not tied to skill-level.

I’m dead this man had a whiteboard 💀🤣 also this explains why each match feels like I’m playing against champs when I myself have never even come close to hitting champ most I’ve peaked is plat 3 console player btw with only one other friend to squad up with

this video explains the pros and cons of the new ranked system really well. kinda makes sense some people play more ranked now, cause they have to play many more matches to reach their 'deserved' rank. before this, I used to be Gold/Plat after 10 matches (= placement). now? I've played at least 30 ranked matches this season and I'm in Silver. some matches, I carry; in others, I face Emeralds and Champions. however, there are also people out there that think: wow, I start in Copper V now? forget about it (hence the graph's statistics). I'm by no means an Emerald player, yet lots of people I face do have those backgrounds. on the other side, I do play more ranked now, because the punishment isn't as severe as it used to be. I used to just play my placement matches and a couple more to rank up if necessary (if I got Gold II, I'd play some matches with friends to reach Plat and call it a season lol). all in all, very good explanation!

I know Ubisoft would never do this, but… It would be really refreshing if Ubisoft came out and admitted that they made a major mistake and actually made changes to the system.

15:40 Can confirm, when I (Plat) played with bronze and silver IRL friends, we still got matches against Plats

If they go back to how it used to be id probably play it again

>Pulse is still relatively new to the game, and our system is attempting to determine where he should be placed (μ ≈ 17 and σ ≈ 6). By Tachanka’s grace, Pulse won the match, so we would increase his skill level to 20. His victory against Hibana has helped us to determine that he may be a better player, so his uncertainly has dropped a small amount (σ ≈ 5.5) >Pulse won against a better player, which proves estimation of his skill wrong, so his uncertainty drops What? I hope they don't actually do that.

Didnt know if you got your proof for MMR cross progression, but here you go: This is from ubisoft's artical "Cross-progression in Rainbow Six Siege": "Please note that the following progress is only shared between PC, Stadia and Luna, or between Xbox and PlayStation consoles: Current Rank Rank History Skill MMR." So officially, no. You shouldn't be playing against Champs on console, unless that was, for some reason, your skill level back when you played console yonks ago.

15:28 this makes sense until you consider the other teammates of that bronze player who now have a huge disadvantage they didn’t ask for, maybe allowing players to set their own restrictions?

Ranked 2.0 is a Ubisoft moment entirely. Although on paper, it sounds like a good idea, I feel like the biggest issue is SBMM. Why am I running against diamonds? I’m a bronze. And I’m a hard stuck bronze now I’ve always been a High gold low plat. I feel like the issue isn’t even the new system. It’s just the SBMM entirely. Some of these changes are simple changes. For instance, if you are bronze, you should be fighting against people who are bronze problem solved

I hate ranked 2.0 with every single atom in my body. I’m currently plat 2, I meet champs (or cheaters) every few games, and i loose more elo than i gain

What doesn’t make sense to me is, one game, I can literally run through site with Iana’s hologram with the enemies not even seeing it. Literally being able to run directly behind players. Yet, there’s a champion on their team. On top of that, 3 games later, my teammates are amazing doing strats I’ve seen in pro league. The matchmaking is so inconsistent

I love Ranked 2.0, I didn't play for over a year and came back this season. Hit Emerald with Solo Q almost instantly and I'm still climbing. My games feel more even and I win the games by clutching and not steamrolling 4-0

Me and my friends have been trying out ranked. We've played maybe 10 matches and have won once. Usually we're getting completely dicked by the other team. Been copper 3 the whole time. Were just casual players but I've played ranked some in the past and got up to gold. Don't remember it being this one sided.

Old video but it's not that the rank itself necessarily matters, it's that rank adds stakes to the game which is what makes it competitive. Rank was a way to allow players not in pro league to feel like their matches had stakes which in turn makes matches feel like they have weight which then makes it feel rewarding to play. I doubt people were crying in their beds because they couldn't make diamond but there was 100% a special kind of satisfaction added to the mix when rank was earned.

Last week i've found not one but two champ against and i had a bronze and a silver in my team(i'm plat 3). I totaly agree KOST should have a meaning in the system, at least like a bonus like in valorant but not kill based, so we can give value to playing the objective

I have been playing since 2016 and I have been playing ranked as a team with my friends for 4-5 years We are not super good at the game ( gold-plat )almost each season since we started to play together, and we are totally fine with it because we are having fun playing the game. This season, we decided to stopped playing because we are not having fun anymore playing this game. and now we are considering permanantly quitting the game . I dont know if 2.0 will save the game as UBI seems to be so confident about , but I feel that beginners, bottom low - mid level players, soloQ players, and all the other who are just trying to have fun in ranked on this game, are now just frustrated with the current system. that being said , nice video I 100 percent agree .

It’s gotten to the point (at least for me) that boosting is necessary, there’s no reason I should be versing high diamonds to mid champs every solo que and not be at that rank, for every loss I have to play two games and win to still be lower then I first started. I gain 15 and loose 30 (roughly) and I can barely have fun in ranked especially after a hard day of work and school when I’m tired and not doing my peak.

For me the worst part of ranked 2.0 is it fucks over players who get better at the game. Because there is no more skill reset even if you get better you're stuck playing in the same lobbies no matter what. Say little Timmy looks up site setups on RU-vid, practices lineups, watches operator guides and learns how to play the game more, his reward for getting better is being at the same rank, in the same lobbies, except now he top frags in his games more often. Ranked 2.0 removed any incentive for players to get better at the game.

Hey Varsity, I also found that if your friend was a higher rank last season. You can play together, win and lose the same matches and even have more kills than him, but the game will give him more rp because its trying to help him reach his previous rank. It feels totally unfair I locked in this season started tryharding every game top frag most games and get less rp than him. I also noptice I lose more rp than him when we lose!! He isnt bad but def not working as hard as me makes it feel like the effort is not even worth it when someone whos worse than you just gets privilege of losing less rp and winning more for the same exact game in which you top fragged.

i think its time to say rest in peace siege

I agree with most of you points, save for a few. 1. The findings from Tracker are damning but the increase in players "trying" ranked is visible in the large number of lowest rank players, who, after trying it out once and getting their first rank, left. 2. Even in the previous seasons, it was possible to "grind out" your rank. I think the reason why so many people got to higher rank is because the new system is less punishing than the previous one, since you can win so much and lose so little (this btw can increase variety in matches where you don't have to pick optimal operators and can just try strats), so people got their friends to play along as well. 3. The new system catering to the top players doesn't seem to be true as well, shown by the silver guy getting to champ. I'd say it's the opposite where higher rank players have to grind to their usual rank.

12:30 >insert Varsity Gaming charm promo HERE (as in every video)

I have noticed that ubisoft has a tendency to tinker with things that dont need to be tinkered with ultimately ruining it

I'm very fortunate and play mostly with a five stack of family. I love that we can all play together now at vastly different skill levels. When Ranked 2.0 first came out there was definitely an advantage to having lower skill levels on our team. Our best player had never reached higher than Plat 1 before. We always brought a couple of silvers/bronzes and typically played only silvers/golds and ranked up quickly. To break it down at the end of the season we had an Emerald 3, Plat 3, Gold 1, Gold 5, Gold 2. From the start of Y8S2 we have been playing almost exclusively emerald skill even when we bring and Emerald, Plat, and three Bronzes. I personally enjoy playing the higher rank and its good for our lower rank to face them and improve. So it does seem they are tweaking it, at least for a mostly 5 stack team.

0:56 overwatch 2, a game with multiple dev blogs on the ranked system that still no one understands

csgo and valve are very secretive about how their ranked system works, the only things we know about it are that it uses a modified GLICKO-2 system and the assumptions that are made by content creators. Yet I firmly believe that CSGO has hands down BEST ranked system in ANY competitive game, hands down.

I don’t know how many times I said this when Ranked 2.0 came out, but I know for a fact that the system is broken when I have to play diamonds in every game starting from copper all the way to the top. Visible rank doesn’t mean anything in this system and it makes it confusing to decipher what your ACTUAL skill level is. That is the problem.

Right now I am at gold 5, me and my friends have been winning 17 and losing 27…we were winning 51% of our matches so essentially over time we will rank down. It doesn’t make sense to even play ranked.