I've completely Rewritten this Comment to address people's problems with my placements of Elsa and Moana. I didn't rewatch Frozen before making this video, so my opinion on Elsa was based purely off memory, I had no intention of disregarding any mental health problems she faced, I simply remembered her being stupid and MASSIVELY OVERRATED, so that is how I made her out in the video. In hindsight my opinions on her were far too harsh, though I probably still prefer everyone above her anyway, just look at it as there being a large gap between her and Merida. As for Moana, just because everyone says she is great doesn't automatically mean I have to like her, people in this comment section have been disregarding or misrepresenting the reasons why I don't like her. There are no less than 3 main reasons why I don't Like Moana and I want to make them clear. 1: She is Selfish. Moana is easily the most selfish Disney Princess, she never, not once! Does anything for anyone else in the entire movie, and whe she ever goes out to save the world, she is getting exactly what she always wanted, being able to sail on the sea. Therefore she is never forced to sacrifice anything and the movie constantly rewards her for being selfish, a literal Goddess and a demigod borderline bow down to her by the climax and she embraces this praise fully, showing no signs of humility. She literally shouts out her name into the ocean like she herself is some great achievement. Why earn respect and praise through hard work and sacrifice, when you can just praise yourself and proclaim how great you are?!?!? 2: She is a Jerk. Moana is extremely condensending, she seems to treat everyone else as lesser than herself throughout the movie, she shows mocking facial expressions to everyone else on the island and is so proud of everything she ever does. She yells at Maui to FORCE him to help her return the heart of Te Fiti instead of trying to calmly and logically convince him, she resorts to physically assaulting him with her oar when he starts boasting (which isn't cool of him to do, but it shouldn't justify physically attacking him). Moana comes off as extremely emotionally fragile, like she needs constant praise or she will implode, therefore she tries to put herself above everyone else and find ways of claiming superiority just to satisfy her selfish nature. 3: She is ALMOST a Mary Sue. I retract my statement from the video that Moana is a Mary Sue, however I still think she is a little too perfect. Every other character in the movie is made to look like an idiot, or they are wrong. But NEVER, NOT ONCE, is Moana ever wrong throughout the entire movie. Moana is also an instant master at everything she does, she has too many skills at the beginning of the movie making it feel impossible that she can fail, and the few things she doesn't know she learns almost instantly and manages to somehow do better than anyone else. The only times she is ever "wrong" or "fails" is for the most obscure and dumb reasons, like bringing a gosh forsaken pig with her on the first attempted boat ride, or inexplicably becoming unintelligent near the Finale and not listening to obvious advice from Maui. I hope that this has made things more clear, as I am tired of writing out long replies explaining all this every 2 hours.
I think there is some nuance to Elsa's character that you missed out on. Her tendency to withdraw is grounded in her backstory. It's not logical from the outside, but she is working with the information she was given and that information was that her powers would be seen as a threat by most if not all and that she should never reveal them. It's not just that one time the trolls said it, it was drilled in by her parents during the bulk of her formative years. Calling her an idiot for not instantly unlearning years of conditioning when she was given no proof that said conditioning was toxic and incorrect seems too harsh. It would be like saying Simba was an idiot for not initially wanting to reclaim Pride Rock even though he believed that doing so would mean facing repercussions for Mufasa's death and also Hakuna Matata helped him cope. I was also under the impression that Elsa didn't bring back Anna, Anna herself did through her sacrifice. Nothing in the prophecy said that Anna couldn't be the one performing the act of true love. I'm not a super fan of Elsa or anything and you don't have to be either, but criticism should be done for the right reasons
@@Rockotarthepurplehatguy I really liked the video overall, and even when I found myself disagreeing with a placement I could at least see where you were coming from. I was just bothered by one instance where the criticism was directed at actions that are justified in context
@@smultronpojke4010 I haven't seen Frozen in awhile I admit, so it's probably my fault for not remembering some details correctly (also haven't seen Frozen 2 in awhile, but I doubt rewatching that movie would improve Elsa's placement lol).
@@Rockotarthepurplehatguy That's fair, Frozen 2 is one of those movies I respect more than I like. The plot is extremely messy but I think it was admirable of the team to reach out to Sámi advocates for input on how best to portray them respectfully and also allowing the movie to be dubbed into Northern Sámi. I am a bit disappointed that they never followed up on Kristoff's Sámi coding in the first movie but I believe that's mostly a byproduct of the messy plotting
Elsa was a victim of childhood psychological abuse. Her brain and personality were developing while constantly being locked away and made to believe she was a dangerous monster. Her flaws are exceptionally realistic considering she was one of the only Princesses to experience real trauma.
I really like Merida, simply because she is so realistically 16 with all the faults of a typical 16 year old, but is never treated as perfect. Like, she screws up massively and spends the whole movie trying to fix it and I just find that kinda refreshing.
That isn't what killed her character for me, it was that she is given barely any positive traits to balance out the negative ones. Glad you could enjoy her character even when I couldn't though.
@@Rockotarthepurplehatguy I think partly why I like her is that in many ways, she's a strange mirror version of Ariel. Both have parents who are trying to vier them in a certain direction, both desire a life of adventure in some way or another, and both of their respective quests are kick started when said parent destroys something meaningful to them. The difference being, Merida actually has something to complain about, and isn't simply given her happy ending without having to lift a finger or grow as a person. She screws up big time and spends the whole film trying to unscrew up and for a Disney princess that 9 times out of 10 the biggest character flay they have is naivety, it's refreshing. Although I may be bias cause I'm Scottish too and damn did they get the culture right during some parts.
@@kayleighbrown459 yeah the designs, culture and setting in Brave are amazing and easily my favorite part of the movie (along with the witch who is iconic)
When it comes to the section about Aurora being "less annoying, unlike Merida who complained every 5 seconds" when it came to accepting forced marriage... it's forced marriage?? ofc she has the right to complain about it as much as she did. She didn't need to be as meek and "beautifully sorrow" about it as Aurora did, she had the right to be loud, make a scene and protest
While she is right, it is unfortunately not very entertaining to watch, and they don't balance out her complaints enough with her just being a good, friendly person. Even though she is right to complain, it comes off more that she is complaining because "that's who she is and what she does" rather than sounding like a valid complaint from a normal logical person who shouldn't have to be forced to do what is being pushed on her. It is a failure on the movie's part to make us care about Merida as a person before she goes complain crazy. It would be better if they cut some of the fillery mom bear scenes and replaced them with more scenes at the beginning showing us all the aspects of Merida's character, not JUST her selfish and annoying side, but a kind and more quirky side (the only times she ever acts more quipy or fun, is when she is mocking someone, not very endearing).
More like arranged marriage. We're talking societies that for 90% of their history picked the best (political and social, I admit) option for the yuong ones. But some required consent, idk which in what time, arragned marriages have been a thing for a LONG ass time. We don't like it because is a product of out time and culture. For Aurora it was indeed forced, since it had been picked when she was a baby, and she never knew it. Merida must've known she'd marry one day, that's how becoming a monarch works... 9 out of 10. If she didn't know... she must've missed that lesson because it seemed like it was the perfectly normal thing to do in her kingdom. And she was given options, even though she didn't like them because of the "being free" modern shtick. Arranged, not forced. (Might seem forced from her mom's pressure on her, but we're talking royalty here, she HAS to choose, and the queen is acting accordingly)
@@OrbitImagination that's sexist af. "Women suck at choosing their own partners, but men are wise and know how to choose partners well." Cause men never mess up or choose bad partners for themselves?
@@OrbitImagination Or how about she doesnt marry at all until she is old enough to make the decision for herself? Its HER life, not her dad's. Its not his job to choose anything for her, only guide her.
I’d have to disagree with the Moana criticism as it feels extremely biased. She does make mistakes and she doesn’t know everything. She isn’t a Mary Sue. Her main skills were with leading a people and that was because she was going to become chief. Her wanting to go out and explore was out of her as shown in the Where You Are song. That was why she wanted to go out beyond the reef, because the island was dying and wanted to save it. The only reason her father opposed was because of his traumatic experience. Then when she goes out we see that she doesn’t know how to sail, and Maui needs to teach her. It’s shown in the scene before they get to Maui as she’s falling asleep and too focused on her line to pay attention. Then there is the darkest hour where her recklessness led to Maui’s hook cracking and him leaving.
Even if she wasn't a Mary Sue (and I still hold to that, but it would take a century to explain why). She is still extremely selfish, smug, and unlikable as a person. The movie thinks it's fun to make everyone else look stupid, but if anyone ever dares say anything against Moana, they are literally Satan.
@@Rockotarthepurplehatguy Is she selfish though? The whole plot and her main goal in the story were to save her people by returning the heart. Crops were dying and fish were running away. When she suggested going beyond the reef, it wasn't because she selfishly wanted to sail (That was taken care of with the Where You Are Song, and redirected to her becoming leader), it was to find fish. After her I want song, she says "there are fish beyond the reef". And after she is shown the ships, she suggests finding Maui and returning the heart with her people. Her dad isn't really vilified. He just wants to keep his village safe. We understand why he doesn't want people to go beyond the reef, he watched his best friend drown when they tried to. The ocean is harsh and only does what it needs to, it's even shown when Moana tried to sail for the first time and immediately got capsized. Her first stop and lines she tried to memorize was to find and get Maui because he knew where Te'fiti (might've misspelled it) is. She doesn't know. She also doesn't know how to sail, and so asks Maui to teach her. And when she makes the mistake that led to Maui's hook to be destroyed, we understand his anger and it's depicted as justified. It started the darkest hour moment and Moana knew she screwed up. When she was smug with stuff like saying she was self-taught (which was depicted as a joke) and when she tried to get through Ta'kaa (prob misspelling that too: p) recklessly, she is punished for it and learns/grows after. Sorry if this was long.
@@colemanbrenner6555 (forgive my incoming rant) what about the parts where she sings about how great she is and how much she can do? Or the fact that she finds it hilarious whenever something bad happens to Maui, but gets extremely upset whenever anything bad happens to her (which rarely happens anyway). The movie makes is constantly trying to force us to like her by making everyone else look stupid in comparison, how come literally no one else on the island even considers going beyond the reef, oh yeah! That's right, because we have to make Moana look special and daring, and stunning, and brave, and ect. Her failure at the end is just stupid in my opinion, Maui is right to get upset, since somehow miss perfect Moana decides to completely remove her brain and stop listening, why? Oh that's right, because she is completely self absorbed and thinks her way is better. I don't get how I'm supposed to feel sorry for her in the next couple scenes when she honestly deserved Maui abandoning her. But of course she suddenly goes back to loving herself as soon as her grandma shows up to praise her very existence. I don't want to come off as rant-y, but I absolutely cannot stand Moana, she and her movie are so infuriatingly overrated, in my opinion. I respect your opinion of liking her as a character, but I will never understand why.
@@Rockotarthepurplehatguy Didn't Maui try and abandon her on a deserted island and try to eat her pet chicken, and then when she got back on the boat tried to throw her overboard? Honestly the tranquilizer thing wasn't that bad, and the boasting with the heart led to the coconut people trying to kill them, and she stopped the smugness. Heck Maui even laughs when bad stuff happens to her on a similar level, like with the pee thing he found it funny. And when Tamatoa almost killed Maui, despite being bait she doesn't laugh at his pain. When he gets his top half turned into a shark, she's more "I don't know how to react" then giggling/laughing. Also, other characters did think about going beyond the reef. Like, you know, her father. And that led to him watching his best friend drown. There was also the whole thing about her ancestors not sailing anymore because the ocean became too dangerous and killed people. Both of her songs weren't about how great she was. Her first was her "I want" song. How she has been feeling conflicted with who she is. Is she a chief? is she an explorer? is she just a kid? All of that comes to an end when she finally knows who she is in her last song: "I am Moana!". Identity has been a running theme in the story. Mau's identity was soley tied to how people saw/loved him, Te'kaa wasn't a person she wanted to be/a false identity, Tamatoa's identity is soley based on his vanity and how shiny/how he is viewed, like in Schaffrillas's vid he's like a foil to Maui in similarities. With her trying to sail through the rocks, she saw Te'kaa couldn't touch water and was busy fighting Maui. She tried to use that as a way to get through and try to return the heart. Only thing was she was wrong, and it of course let to said darkest hour, where SHE WAS TOLD OFF. She isn't perfect. She makes mistakes and needs help from folks like Maui. Lastly, imaging your granddaughter is alone and crying. You'd want to make her feel better. It wasn't a way to make her feel perfect. Just that she was there and left soon after. Rant is ok. No worries. For me I'm just giving reason to why she isn't this selfish mary sue. She makes mistakes, doesn't know everything, went to save her people/island, and learns/grows. Like a normal character.
Merida is always complaining because her mom is a helicopter parent who is constantly correcting her. She can't do anything right, And her mother won't listen to her wishes or desires, she just expects Merida to be happy all the time and go along with the traditions. I can understand why Merida is complaining.
cinderella also has so much moral and emotional strength - it is so much easier to become a nasty person in a nasty environment, to give abuse when you receive it, and yet she doesn’t.
I absolutely love how Cinderella stayed kind, despite the fact that she was abused by her stepfamily for almost her whole life. What a strong character.
She is quite sassy and sarcastic though. It's funny and cute. Especialy in the latinamerican redub voice. Her tone gets me alot and shows that she is quite annoyed that she has to bear with all of this. Also she makes fun of her sisters singing and threatens to beat lucifer with a broom
I love her, but I wish she had been assertive and taken only so much BS. I know she couldn't because she was like a servant being the actual heir, but that is horrible, everything about her situation was. But she was nobody's property and this was her house, she should have asked for God's help or something to concoct a plan and expose the truth, or do something, you know. In the end, it worked out though, showing that good will always win
I’m glad you talked about Cinderella in Cinderella 3 because the Cinderella sequels do wonders for her character. I only recently watched the Cinderella sequels and because of them, Cinderella is now one of my favourite Disney Princesses. You explained Cinderella in the 3rd movie and why she’s so strong there but even in Cinderella 2, she still has some strong moments, even if Cinderella 2 as a whole isn’t particularly good. The stuff with Cinderella and Anastasia in particular is very strong in Cinderella 2, seeing Cinderella help out Anastasia, even with the amount of grief Anastasia gave Cinderella in the past. And of course, Cinderella 3 only makes her even better. Cinderella is a great princess and we largely have the sequels to thank for that (even if she is still pretty solid in the first movie alone).
The sequel are awesome like the third one twist in time when the king told Prince Charming I forbid you to walk down those stairs he backflips out the window that’s hilarious
As for Tiana, I love her character. Not to sound like a college campus "I shall get offended on your behalf" leftist, but I do think the Princess and the Frog could have covered the segregation and discrimination against the black community going on in the South back then. I'm not expecting Klan ralies or lynch mobs, but one "Whites Only" sign or Tiana and her mom being forced to sit in the back of the tram in the beginning would have sent a strong message to the audience.
Yeah, that reminds me a simple but powerful moment in a Doctor Who episode where they travel to the 60s and The Doctor's companion sees a sign that says "no colored's allowed" and she Silently takes the sign and throws it in the trash. It's a really powerful moment and no words even needed to be said. Yeah, maybe having a moment where she sees something like that but then chooses to go on anyway and ignore the hatred. Then at the end the person who put up the sign sees her restaurant and is in disbelief, as she proved him wrong. Or something like that.
If I remember correctly, I think there is a scene where Tiana and her mom sit in the back, and there’s a scene where someone tells Tiana “a little woman of your.. background might have had her hands full”.
yea but the movie isnt about that. i think it'd detract more from a rather story packed film by adding another plot point. another replier said it before me that there was at least 1 line hinting at that and you can add the opening scene of her poor community as sight commentary too. it's enough for this one.
I can see what you're saying with that since it is based in that time period, but as a black woman it's tiring to see movies when there's a black lead she is struggling. It's uplifting to actually see a woman like me on screen be treated like the human she is not everything has to showcase black struggle.
I actually quite like Aurora. Not only is she graceful, elegant, and (like you said) the best looking Disney princess, but you can pick up quite a few traits just from the little time she is on screen. (I got playful, polite, kind, and gentle, which is always admirable.)
I'm not against your placement of Elsa's rank, but it wasn't her idea to isolate herself. The troll leader told her parents to do that (after scaring her with what she could become with her powers). All of this obviously messed with her brain. She was living constantly in fear. I'm pretty sure she has some sort of mild paranoia or anxiety disorder because of that. Idk. As someone suffering from anxiety, we do make dumb decisions. Her wanting isolation even after years of it ruining her makes sense. It's all she's known and it's what she thought was right, especially with the troll leader's influence. Her not wanting to talk about it at first also makes sense. Troll leader said no one should know about her powers, especially with him falsifying Anna's memories of what really happened and even made Anna forget that Elsa had powers. She also hasn't really talked to people a lot (except with her parents) for most of her life so, she would end up having communication problems. I sympathize with her a lot so, just saying. Or maybe I am just projecting. lol I do think Elsa could've been written better and yeah, the sequel is meh.
Nah, you just understand her character and mental state more than most people do. I've seen that people tend to just completely disregard the fact that she was a child when the trolls and her parents told her to hide away and that she grew up with that. That trauma doesn't just go away immediately. She did what she thought was the right way to protect the people around her.
@@savana6561 But she didn't even look sad when she decided to abandon Arendelle. She didn't look like she missed Anna and most of the movie she didn't do anything to solve the problem and ran away all the time (Which is funny because most of the people say that she's the braviest, when she's not). And in the sequel, she abandoned her kingdom and sister AGAIN, even after all the things Anna did to finally stay together.
In the first movie, she ran away because she was afraid of her powers hurting people, which almost did, and she was also being chased and hunted by the old dude and his guards. When her powers were revealed people reacted with fear and prejudice. She didn’t feel safe there and she was afraid. Also, she didn’t know at first that Arendelle was frozen, she only found out when Anna told her. She also didn’t know how to reverse and she felt that she wouldn’t be able to fix it. Keep in mind that in during that same conversation she ended up accidentally hurting Anna which is why she was so afraid to be around people. So all in all, she felt she would do more harm than good if she went back. So you see, she left for the safety of everyone else because she grew up fearing her powers and only when she was isolated and alone did she feel confident since there was no one to hurt. In the second movie, it’s clear that she isn’t happy in Arendelle as the queen. And also, let’s not act as if in the second movie she cut off all communication with everyone, we see them about to meet up at the end for a game night. Elsa shouldn’t be expected to just sacrifice her happiness and feelings to accommodate for everyone else. She felt more free and happy in the forest so that’s where she stayed, and Anna, who was more for of a people person, took her place as Queen. Everyone ended up happy at the end of the movie bc they all found their places in life as well as themselves. Also, I’ve never heard people call Elsa the braver one.
@@marcydiaz6950 Yeah, those are problems. [Long reply incoming.] This is my first time hearing though about how some think she was brave for running away from her problems. I mean, sure, I would also like to run away when my powers start going crazy in front of many people after hiding it for so long and I would also feel relief once I'm all alone away from anyone that might hurt me, but it wasn't really bravery. It was more of a "You need to go right now! Hurry!" moment. Her running off to take a break from all that mess is okay & probably necessary, but then she said she wants to stay isolated for the rest of her life, which is both a) not okay like you pointed out and b) understandable & pretty relatable. True that it was a dumb decision but we (the mentally ill) be like that when our head's full of negative thoughts, so her reactions were valid. Even when she wants Anna to stay away forever. That wasn't a good decision like I said but completely understandable. I think the problem then lies to how the movie portrays her quick change of emotions for the Let It Go part. She's happy all of a sudden? Nice song & dress but ?????? I expected more wallowing in regret, fear, & sadness (which did happen but it was after Anna visited her there. So if she never visited, she would have still been just happy up there. But she just left the kingdom. She should still be unhappy after that experience, right? Whatever.) Or maybe I'm just projecting again. lmao Frozen 2 is just.. idk. If she doesn't wanna be ruler anymore, that's fine. Just hand off the crown to Anna. Elsa's mental health was f---ed for most of her life anyway. Gonna take years to recover. But yeah, shouldn't have left her sister like that. Edit: I still like Elsa. I was judging the writing.
I really hope Mirabel counts as an official disney princess like Belle and Cinderella. She absolutely fits what a Disney princess is suppose to be, she’s also a great role model
well technically her family are the leaders of the Encanto so her being part of that family makes her sort of a princess, but Disney passed the whole leader of tribe/community rule to put Mulan in so
@@juuchanIRL Idk Encanto wasn’t hyped as a “disney princess” movie, i dont see any posts about Encanto being a “Columbian princess” movie like how Raya was and how everybody was shouting how Raya will be a southeast asian princess
I think it’s important to note that Cinderella didn’t “magically get everything she wanted” from the godmother. She ALREADY had a dress. She was already going to that ball, until the stepsisters basically assault her. All the godmother did was fix the dress, albeit with improvements, and get her an Uber. It’s also crucial that none of these glamorous gifts even last a full day. It’s already night when she leaves for the ball, and she has to come back at midnight. And once Cinderella gets back home, she’s just as happy as she can be, but seemingly ready to return to her normal miserable life with the happy memories at the ball being enough for her. She didn’t drop the slipper intentionally. She had no clue the prince would actually seek her out. I also think it’s a bit fair to include sequels when not every princess has that much screen time for development
I respect Esmeralda's character even more for the fact that the oppression of the Romani people went on in France (and the rest of Europe) for centuries after Hunchback place (1482). It took Hitler slaughtering half a million of them for the state oppresion of the Romani people to stop.
@@Edwinaopt I mean, the Romani are still treated as second class citizens, but European governments aren’t slaughtering them en masse anymore. Yeah, I learned recently that “gypsy” is a slur.
@@thesamuraihobbit gypsy as a slur is a recent term and started in the west. here in eastern europe where the gypsy pop is significant, it's the standard word for them. they use it, we use it. i grew up among gypsies and nobody ever used the word "rroma" or "romani". it's an imported controversy.
@@juuchanIRL facts, I'm from the eastern Europe too, but the west doesn't want gypsies to call themselves gypsies, because the west wants to erase everyone's identity under silly excuses
The Moana hate... it hurt me. And I can't really see how she is never punished for her faults or how she's selfish? All the shit she puts herself through is not just caused by her desire to go out to sea (which is swiftly challenged by her first outing) but to save all of her people from certain doom. She's literally got the world on her shoulders and struggles with imposter syndrome. And she has to learn how to properly sail through Maui. And is losing a dear friend for her reckless actions not punishment? After Maui left because she thought she knew better she literally hsd nothing left and let herself be the scared girl she always hid underneath her cockiness. Idk, a lot of the points you mentioned just seemed pretty much completely opposite to how I perceived her character.
Not only that he says that she never does anything wrong, but she literally makes so many mistakes when she tries to sail, and then has to have Maui teach her so uhhh
finally some mirabel appreciation! she’s easily one of my favorite protagonists and was so overlooked when the movie came out she’s such an interesting well rounded character
yes! i love mirabel because she is super relatable, being one of the only disney princess protagonists that doesn’t have magical powers and isn’t seen as “royal” necessarily. she’s just a normal girl who cares for her family and community. her traits are super likable, and her issues with feeling belittled and inferior to her family is also relatable and make so many people, including myself feel seen. she is a likable character with realistic issues, and that’s what draws me to her
@@ephemerald5 exactly how I feel! she just feels so refreshingly normal. Even her voice isn’t light and airy like most disney princess ones are! She’s also built normally too she’s skinny but not “where would your organs fit” skinny. she’s just a teenage girl trying to navigate the world and I love her for that
Those who call Disneys snow white a damsel in distress are wrong. She has had to survive abuse from her stepmom, almost being killed, running away and being alone, as well as spending most of her life as a slave. she has survived so much whilst also being kind to everyone she meets even the person who killed her. This ranks her much higher on mylist. She is my favourite princess and is an inspiration to anyone that being kind will get you far in life.
Not to mention that she did all of that at the ripe old age of 14. Like I know the ages of the princesses don’t really matter for their story’s but I feel like it’s worth mentioning.
It was so great that you mentioned Aurora's emotional beat and then her choice of stoic conduct right after that. I've always thought that was an actual story moment! But it gets lost cause she has so little to do; some of the fewest lines of any heroine. Anyways, I've loved that moment forever, nice to see it.
(In response to 31:24) Esmeralda was actually originally included in the lineup when it first debut, however she wasn't popular, or marketable enough, so Disney removed her.
I think the reason why so many people don't understand Elsa and hate her for her actions is because they don't realize how small she was when the beginning of the movie happened. Like idk if at age 11 I was told hey you're a danger to your sister and also everyone around you and you have to hide and there's not way to fix what you break and also talking is bad and you should hide everything including your feelings I think i'd run away too.
I'm curious since Ariel is one of my favorite characters. But, what's your take on the critisim of Ariel being a typical and helpless damsel in distress? She outswam a shark, destroyed Ursula's eels in the climax, which led Ursula to grow gigantic size and allow Eric to deliver the final blow, and she saved Eric 2 times. But, everyone is saying it's not good enough because she had to be saved in the 3rd act. Also, what about the critisim of Ariel not changing or learning anything from her ordeal with Ursula? We all make mistakes. It happens to everyone. But, it's essential that you learn and grow from your mistakes. So, any comments?
I think it's the fact that Ariel's mistakes are never portrayed in the movie as her fault. She's never called out or made to account for them in a way that suggests that we shouldn't take her side. She doesn't even feel conflicted that the man she's giving her heart to regularly eats seafood, some of whom may have well been her friends when she was a mermaid.When Ariel says, "Daddy, I'm sorry, I didn't meant to, I didn't know," it's in the vein of a teenager getting caught spending too much money on their parents' credit card. Compare that to Aladdin, who ran into a similar problem. At least Aladdin admitted to being wrong for lying to the girl he loved and not freeing the Genie immediately, allowing Jafar to take over Agrabah. He straight out said, "This is all my fault." In the end, he was willing to sacrifice his relationship with Jasmine to free the Genie, showing himself to be a selfless person at heart. The same thing happened with Belle, who after the battle, told the Beast, "This is all my fault" when he lay there dying. Even though there was no way she could have predicted Gaston's trap, she still took responsibility at the eleventh hour. Ariel never had that "come to Jesus" moment. This last bit is more of a writers' problem than an Ariel problem, but it annoyed me that the human world was the magical utopia that Ariel dreamed it would be. How much better would the story be if Ariel discovered that there are rules on land. It would be a huge reality check to discover that on land, many people don't understand and that they, in fact, DO reprimand their daughters. She could have seen that there are as many, if not more restrictions in the human world than there are in the mer-world, especially for royalty. Sadly, Ariel is a perfect example of a character who creates a contradiction between intention vs presentation. Musker and Clements probably intended to give us a strong, independent young girl who needed to be free to spread her wing, rather than to be caged, but what we got was a selfish, spoiled teenager who wanted something, was refused, so she cried and caused damage, and in the end, she got everything she wanted without suffering any consequences.
ariel worked harder for her goals than most characters. critics are edgy teens who like to complain about the movies everyone likes because they think it'll bring them down a peg. most of those critics are either teen girls themselves or people who want attention by nitpicking the big stuff. none of them complain about lesser known movies because it doesnt bring in the views.
@@thesamuraihobbit I agree with a lot you said here but I just have one point to make You kind of blamed Ariel for crying until she comes damage but she never would have gone to the Sea which anyway is Ursula hadn't been spying on her to see her weakest moment and if her father hadn't caused her weakest moment but actively destroying all of her stuff Yes she's kind of flawed for what she did but in some ways it isn't always her fault as she was driven to what she did by what her father did to her first granted if she just listened to him some of this wouldn't have happened but also if she had listened Eric might be dead and that's kind of overlooked when people say that she caused all the problems by not listening Ultimately what we get here is a story of a girl who has an interest that a parent thinks of as dangerous to the point that he's willing to hurt her emotionally in order to keep her safe which drives her to rebel Tears of joy it's kind of like finding Nemo if Marlon hadn't been so overprotective to the point of being downright stifling then Nemo might not have rebelled, and the act that caused Nemo to rebel is a lot less significant than what Triton did to Ariel It's ultimately not Ariel's fault that somebody else manipulated her because of how someone else hurt her Tears of joy I also don't think that her apology doesn't count yes it's fast but that's because it's in the middle of a climax but the way she says it I can hear it in her voice how much she means it And it's not like the entire conflict is her fault in the same way it's entirely Meredith's fault in brave or entirely raya's fault in raya and The last dragon
@@thesamuraihobbit I think Ariel's character arc was more subtle. She does become more mature as the movie progresses, and by the end grows to appreciate her father. It's just that Triton's arc was far more profound, and his failures had more consequences for him personally. Plus, Triton's arc drives the plot: he means absolutely the best for his family and kingdom, and in the process makes terrible mistakes, hurts his daughter and alienates his best friend, and has to overcome his prejudice against humans. So in reaction, Ariel pushes her rebellion too far, and in doing so realizes how deep she's gotten herself and those she cares about. Sometimes, the worst consequence to suffer is to watch someone else suffer in your place, because of your actions.
It makes no sense to me when people say Ariel is spoiled because she literally entertains her family (by singing when she had never said she loved to sing or her voice lol) and just keeps doing what she likes on her own without disturbing anyone. What led to her to fall for Ursula is her father invading that space she had created BY HERSELF and destroying it. How is any of that a spoiled teenage
I will always defend Snow White, I’ve always thought she was extremely underrated. Mentally, she is one of the strongest, If not the strongest princess. After just almost being murdered, kicked out of her home/village, without having any money, food, anything, of course she’s gonna get upset & cry. But what does she do after a minute tops of crying? She apologizes for frightening the wildlife around her! She is extremely unselfish. Yes, she cooks & cleans, but this movie was made in the 1930s. Is she the brightest? Or have a lot of common sense? No, but it gives her a personality, compared to the other early princesses. She remained positive through almost the entire film as well, despite going through one of the worst things out of all of them. Lastly, none of the bad things that happened to her were her fault. She did absolutely nothing wrong, nor was she ever mean to anyone. She never even planned on getting revenge on the woman who literally hired an assassin to murder her. She just wanted to move on & continue living her life.
33:00 Meg is a princess 100 %. Her inspirations are Princess Megara, who was the elder daughter of the King of Thebes, and Deianera, whom, if I remember correctly, was Hipolita's daughter and Hipolita was the queen of the Amazonas ladies. Also, in the Disney story, she ends up with Hercules/Heracles, who is the son of Zeus, king of the Gods. So yeah, princess 100 %. Change my mind. Also, Mulan = best Disney princess, totally agree.
@@Rockotarthepurplehatguy your entire video rocked, I especially liked how high you put Ariel (since she’s one of my favorites and I hate the hate she gets) I’m definitely subbing!
YES i love how you put cinderella on the higher tier. she always gets flacks on "needing a man" which made me think they didnt understand her character at all. she's always been so good and an amazing character, just because she has a "man" doesnt mean she is less than a "badass" princess. she suffered sm
Actually, Elsa didn't save Anna.... Anna saved herself by choosing her sister´s life instead of hers. That was the act of true love. So I supposed you just now have one good thing(?) XD
In Elsa’s defense, she wasn’t taught to talk about her feelings. The main solution was to sweep it under the rug. So when it became known to everyone else that she had powers, she panicked and ran because how exactly can you sweep that under the rug? Maybe I personally relate to her? I dunno. But even though our opinions differ, I’m still accepting of yours. ❤
no i agree. elsa is a relatable and likable character. she makes lots of mistakes in the first movie especially, but it’s mainly because of her upbringing and everyone in her life telling her to conceal her emotions. it wasn’t like she had any malicious intent towards anyone. i like her character and she was always a disney protagonist i enjoyed watching
It ever says so in Let it Go. "Conceal don't feel, don't let them know" Also it was her parents that made elsa feel like a monster and a burden and told her to not tell Anna or anyone. Her father also told her the very same lyrics to Conceal and not feel. They told her to not show fear or emotion or any of those kinds of emotions because they are seen as bad as it will trigger her ice powers and must have it under control. But how can she have it in control if she can't even share her feelings. Her parents made everything worse for elsa and it's their fault that she's so fearful.
@@bigboomer1013I disagree. Elsa's parents tried to reassure her constantly that her powers were, in fact, something she could handle. All she had to do was wear gloves! But she still screamed at them 'Go away, I'll hurt you' - why does she still think she'll hurt them? They're reaching out to her, Anna wants to play with her - they're all indicating they DON'T fear her powers and trust she has them under control. Again, she just has to wear the gloves! Lots of superheroes have had a magic touch they have to cover up when it's not necessary; this should not be a big deal for Elsa. My only beef with her parents would be that Elsa's irrational fears of hurting people even with her powers restrained clearly required medical attention, but how were they supposed to find a trained psychiatrist back then?
Ok it started going downhill when he said that Snow White is a boring character. She is ofc sweet, and kind, but she is also like Tiana where she doesn't expect to get anything without hard work. And ofc she is helpless at times being she is pretty young, I mean the girl was almost murdered near the beginning of the movie. She isn't just all about the prince like it's part of her personality, and actually doesn't mention him much throughout the movie. BTW cleaning is not a personality trait🤦🏼.
I am so glad to see Cinderella being recognized so highly on this list! People really tend to project the old stereotypical feminine traits on her instead of seeing and interpreting her actual actions and words throughout the story. She has spirit and spunk! She just chooses opportune times to express them… after all, if she openly rebeled, her stepmother could truly ruin her life and make things so much worse for her. What I love so much about her is that she shows how it takes real strength and grit to express gentleness, grace, and kindness when you never receive those gifts from others around you. She’s honestly a treasure 💜 Also YESSSS ESMERALDA SQUAD LET’S GOOO
I personally think Raya is very underrated. Say what you will about her movie, but Raya herself is awesome! She’s strong, determined, sassy, snarky, brave, adventurous, compassionate, and intelligent! Plus, her reason for not wanting to trust people is very understandable, considering she trusted Namaari who stabbed her in the back. Plus, Kelly Marie Tran did a really good playing her and her vocal performance fit the character well!
To be fair for merida, her whole life was being controlled since her birth and she wanted to be like her father but thanks to tradition she was forced to be like her mom whom she learns throughout the movie had to make sacrifices just like she does.
The most noble thing about Mulan is that she has two opportunities to go home: the first is Chang dismissing her showing that even though she had saved her father’s life she chose to persevere through her training beginning with the arrow (outthinking the problem while physically struggling to succeed:). She brought honor and respect to herself through earning it. The second is after it’s discovered she was a woman. Again she has the opportunity to go home, dishonor brought to the Fa family and the Imperial Army (including the inevitable destruction of the Capital) or attempt to warn the Capital that the Huns are alive. How many people would have taken that first opportunity by Chang to go home with their life and Father saved (which was her motivation, not so much her duty to China)?
Exactly, Mulan throughout the entire movie is focused on helping people and solving whatever problems arise from a place of sincere care, to the point that she's surprised and dismissive of the praise she receives in the end. That's part of what makes those final scenes so moving, because Mulan's humility is so powerful and apparent. She's simply always offering service however and whenever she can and doesn't let her personal grudges or frustrations stop her from trying to contribute in ways she believes are important. She begins to find joy and purpose in these things as well. In directing herself towards service, she's able to finally have her authentic self flourish by finding her place in a new environment, learning how she can be of value, and making consistently selfless characterizing decisions
@@troyii435well said. From her father to an unnamed little girl in her village, Mulan always showed a willingness to help and not do selfish things (she’s a little lazy but desperately tries making up for it whenever possible). I love many Disney princesses but Mulan is the best
I don't know about being lazy. She only had the dog feed the chickens because 1) she needed to be in town and didn't have the time and 2) Disney needed to show early on that she was a creative problem solver.@@LordWyatt
@@Starbeam1979 her laziness is shown from the beginning but it’s subtle (and to be fair it’s not a large flaw but it’s still there) 1. She failed to memorize her lessons before the day of meeting the matchmaker and then tried to cheat by writing it on her arm (again she’s creatively solving the problem but it ends up backfiring when the matchmaker smears it so she can’t use it to help her and paints her face like Chingis Khan, distracting Mulan more). 2. She had the dog help her because she was already running late, it’s possible she’s done it before but if so should have been even more prepared. The chores should have been done at daybreak but it’s mid morning when she’s writing the lessons on her arm and she hadn’t started yet (also why the bath water was cold by the time she got to town) 3. She is shown to sleep in at camp. To be fair if she was allowed to sleep in at home (before doing chores) then that’s a habit and she was caught off guard. If not then that’s on her for sleeping in. To be clear I’m not saying she’s a lazy person, just has a hint of laziness about her. A very relatable flaw especially in the West. And you’re right about the creative thinking, she shows it from the dog to her fan against Shan Yu’s attack.
Merida complaining it’s just part of her story arc. She has a very justifiable reason for feeling and expressing like that, and again it’s part of the character growth and development
Each princess have her own personality. Not all of princesses should have a sword and go to war like mulan and not all should be set their castles and waiting for the rescuing like aurora.
@@Rockotarthepurplehatguy Especially the movie lesson was just nothing. Like animation style was good and like raya but something in that movie was wrong about trust . Despite mirabel isn't royalty but I prefer to see her an official honorary disney princess
I would put Raya as the last becuase to me she is the most boring, forgettable and bland princess of all( besides her movie was one of the most boring and cliche i ever seen) but this is my just opinion dont hate me for that. I also agree with most of the other princess.( except for moana)
Yeah, I knew my opinion on Moana would be very unpopular, and I can also see why you would put Raya last, It can be hard to say whether a character who is plain boring (Raya), or one who is interesting but poorly written (like Elsa) is actually better. Thanks for watching.
And It sucks because they set her up to be an amazing character. But unfortunately she just is not really fun to watch or root for after the time jump.
I'm sorry but if you think Moana is a Mary Sue, then you either have no idea what a Mary Sue is, or didn't watch the movie. A Mary Sue is a character with zero flaws, or whose only flaw(s) are inconsequential. They succeed in everything they do without any struggle. Moana has flaws, and nothing is handed to her. If she were truly a Mary Sue, she would've had zero problems learning how to sail. She would have been able to convince Maui to return the heart immediately. She would also actually have superpowers, which she doesn't (i'm not sure where the hell you got the idea she did). She doesn't control the ocean, she can't - and doesn't - fight Tamatoa or Te Ka on her own, and she didn't magically know how to sail, she had to learn through trial and error and much struggle. Moana was chosen by the ocean BECAUSE she doesn't have any superpowers. Although they're not seen in the movie, there are other demigods and monsters besides Maui and Tamatoa. The ocean could have chosen anyone. But it chose Moana. Because Moana might not be the strongest or the fastest or the greatest. But she is determined, curious, clever, selfless, brave, kind, and pure of heart.
Tbh I agree with the list. I would rank Tiana and cinderella a bit higher than belle tbh. But thats just me. But im glad we recognized how great of a character that Cinderella is
I agree Mirabel is a far more put together character than a lot of others( also I love the family madrigal song). This a great video you clearly put a lot of effort into it
At least she doesn’t complain about having to marry someone she doesn’t love! I can’t get behind you for the first few at all! I love Moana it’s one of the best Disney princess movies for one, not to mention the music. But Moana has a whole subplot about how much she cares about her people, she tries and succeeds at bettering their lives! Moana isn’t selfish, she does everything she does to help her people, and the ocean chose her, she’s far from home and her grandma just died so the idea that she complains a bit and gets angry just makes sense. Ok rant over lol, I love Moana
IKR "At least she doesn’t complain about having to marry someone she doesn’t love!" was such a nasty thing to say. I can't believe he actually said that as a positive??
I hate Moana so much! I hate her movie I her I hate everything bout that dumb selfish BRAT! Also I hate the movie “brave” too! I hate her so, so much I don’t know how a human can like her but okay.
@@lovedogs900 geez lol ok. I strongly disagree with both of your opinions but you ARE entitled to them. I will say though. Teenage girl who just lost the only person who truly made her feel safe and understood, a little hormonal probably, Brattiness is to be expected.
@@Definetely-nobody bruh moana is so stupid, this is her:”my grandmother just died so now I’m gonna go to sea meet a strange man and be a little big baby!” But okay🙄
This is probably my favorite Disney princess ranking I've seen. It's so refreshing to see someone with their own opinion. Other rankings just put the first 3 princesses at the bottom and call it a day.
Yes, but to me it felt more like that was only her second concern, since the movie focuses way more on how she wants to go sailing, and spends way too much time trying to make her seem cool, that it actually backfires and makes her seem self centered instead. All that is just my opinion though.
No, Moana is not a Mary Sue. She has to learn how to do everything. The only instance I saw with her being too perfect was the Kakamura attack. She has hardly any idea how to sail until Maui shows her how.
Nothing bad ever happens because of her actions, even when she fails to sail at first, the crashes result in little-to-no difference in the plot or her character. Plus she immediately learns how to do everything perfectly right after learning it, and the plot always promotes her as being better than everyone else, even Maui, the second most important character is made out to be the butt of every joke he is in and looks stupid compared to Moana. But I should stop now before I end up typing an essay.
@@Rockotarthepurplehatguy I still wouldn't call Moana one of the better princesses, but I wouldn't call Moana a good one either now that you mention it. I still like the movie, but to be fair if she was a Mary Sue, she's really the only one
@@Rockotarthepurplehatguy What, no. Look the plot can poke fun at Maui, but it clearly also shows the clumsiness of Moana. She does things good after learning them, so what. They established in the movie that she learned how to sail from Maui. Cause and effect. The story also clearly portrays Moana in a stupid light, like when Maui is teaching her how to sail the first time. And it’s not that Maui’s stupid, it’s just that he doesn’t care about Moana until later on in the movie
YES!!!!! Finally!!! Someone who actually likes Rapunzel’s short hair!! I love it so much and I’m surprised almost everyone hates it, and says things like “why didn’t he cut her hair a little longer??😭” I think it’s so cute!! I even try to get my hair to look like her’s too, but it was very nice to actually hear it from another human being. Great video, but that sealed the deal for me. Subscribed💪
Personally it was more concern for Rapunzel since i imagine going from metres of hair to an exposed neck and hair that can't cover your face is quite the shock to the system. You can always neat up the style shorter, but hair takes time to grow. Cutting it lower but a little messier felt like a better choice, but you know life and death, can't blame them. it turned out brilliant considering the situation.
Nice list! My favorites are Snow White (idk, I find her attitude with the dwarfs funny and she’s so iconic), Ariel, Belle, Meg, Mulan, Rapunzel, Anna and Maribel
38:15 Exactly! I am a girl with glasses who grew up using them and I never saw a girl like me on screen unless she was the nerdy character, the basic friend, or the secretly beautiful girl (who has to remove her glasses to be considered beautiful). No protagonists. This movie and its choice to have Mirabel be the protagonist who doesn't need to change anything about herself to deserve respect changed my life.
I agree with everything you said about all the Disney Princesses on this ranking list, except at where you put Moana. But I respect your opinion, though. I'm just going to explain why Moana isn't really the worst Disney Princess (It's actually Merida). - Even though Moana wanted to be in the ocean, her island was running out of fish, so her only suggestion was to fish beyond the reef so the islanders could get the fish they needed. - After Gramma Tala dies (still weeping), Moana takes her advice and only voyages to bring the heart back to Te Fiti just so she can save her people. This shows that she also cares about others and not just herself. - She isn't actually a Mary Sue who can do everything perfect. She didn't even know how to sail properly at first, and that's what caused her to crash at Maui's island. And even though she blames the ocean for this, I find this scene annoying, but hilarious at the same time. But you are right about one thing. She wasn't actually harmed. - But as I was saying, Moana isn't perfect. During the adventure, she had to earn Maui's trust so she could learn. She even agreed to help him get his fish hook, and she at least needed to give him some advice. And that's what got her to sail better. (Heck, she couldn't just stand there and do nothing when the Kakamora took Hei Hei and the heart. That's why she smashed most of them with her oar.) - But you are right about when you say that Moana can be pretty selfish at times. But that's usually when she's so determined to prove herself, and that's what causes her fight with Maui, so she doesn't actually get away with everything. But when she talks to her grandmother's ghost as all hope is lost, that's when she's inspired to finish the mission on her own. It's called CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT (at least Maui comes back to help her). While yes, I agree Moana is not a perfect Disney Princess, and she does have some flaws, she at least did a lot of good deeds for her people because she just wanted to help them. She even listened to Maui's instructions on how to sail, which is why she does better at voyaging later in the movie. And while she made a bit of selfish decisions throughout the movie, she actually learned from them, and remember. This is character development. Moana is definitely one of the bravest Disney Princesses, and also one of my favorites. Meanwhile, I think the real worst Disney Princess is Merida. But I definitely agree with everything else on your list. I absolutely love to see the Mirabel appreciation, and Mulan is the greatest Disney Princess for a lot of reasons.
I’m surprised you didn’t put Anastasia in here. She TECHNICALLY is a Disney Princess since Disney bought FOX, thus also gaining ownership of her. If I were you- if you hypothetically did put her in here. I would put her in 8-6th. She’s great as a character, protagonist, and comedic sassiness.
Being smug/cocky isn’t bad. I’m going to be that guy, but y’all love those smug, confident hero types when they are a guy, but when they are a woman well… 🤐 And i get it, you want these characters to be challenges or taken down a peg, but both Moana and Merida do get challenged and mess up and have to fix their mistakes and grow anyways, so that point falls flat here.
I was a little hesitant to watch this at first because Ariel tends to get the short end of the stick when it comes to criticism. But I was pleasantly proven wrong! Your thoughts on Ariel were fair and I totally agree on how amazing her animation is even without a voice. She might be one of my favourite princesses, but I'm pretty happy with her spot on the ranking and I cannot argue with the top picks (especially Megara and Rapunzel, another two faves of mine)
I respect your opinions but very strongly disagree with the Elsa one. She is not being selfish or careless about other people. She really cares, especially her family, she never means to hurt anyone. The reason she runs from her responsibilities is she really does not know what to do while she is suffering from her uncontrollable powers. Since she was a child, since the moment her family saw the first sign of her powers being dangerous, she was told to isolate herself instead of being taught how to use her powers. She was pressured and that's why she grew up to be a very insecure introverted self-isolated person. Her imprisoning the counrty to an endless winter and running away was actually something she did unconsciously, and not realised how much damage she caused behind. Maybe she seems very selfish or irresponsible but let's not forget she actually symbolises a female character who has been forced to do things she does not want since she was born and who is accused of being powerful like "intelligence" in real life, or physically strong, talented in arts or some stuff, if we adapt that symbolism to real life. She never chose that so called responsibility by herself. It was given to her by people, like a homework to do. Yes, I also think she would be a very good choice for a ruler instead of Anna who cannot think logically as much as Elsa, but as I said, she is an individual and in the second film she found something she enjoys but also can be helpful to others. Elsa is one of the Disney princesses I would rank in the top 3. In addition, her isolating herself and not explaining her powers to people is also a symbolism for people being scared of powerful women. If she tried to show them her powers which she was not able to control at that time, people would freak out and immediately banish her from the society. That's why it seemed like the only option to her to run away.
I dont think Aurora is the least popular princess. From what I've seen, I'd say she is one of the more popular ones. My favorites are Ariel, Tiana, Jasmine, Esmeralda, Megara, Pocahontas, Anna, Rapunzel, Elsa, Cinderella and Snow White
Mulan has always been my favorite Disney princess as well. She is beautiful, bold, fierce, a risk taker, intelligent and not afraid to do what men were normally called to do. ❤❤❤❤
finally i saw a list where Aurora is not one of the last, i have a certain affection for her, and i share your hate for Merida, if we met in real life i would like to shake your hand man
Hmm I would rate Merida somewhat higher because her immaturity is basically what the movie is about which leads to the plot's point of wishes you shouldn't give any power or words because those might be impossible to take back(Well that is how I see it). Although from the whole point of view and categorizing that you did I understand why she is so low but in that regards she had no chance at all. Anyways fun and interesting video taking one back to childhood.
Finally someone appreciates Mirabel. She's such a sweetheart, I love her. She's also very good-looking (surprise Disney, the glasses didn't make her ugly).
Also props for finding pretty much every single character that could be considered a Disney princess as a lot of videos that do this even if they include others that aren't in the official lineup will usually leave out one or two they'll forget about the girl from The Black cauldron and or Meg and or Esmeralda and you go pretty much every single one of them but I've ever heard of
5 people in this video who aren't even princesses Meg Jane Mulan Esmeralda Mirabel So yeah. Screw you, Disney. And 2 middle fingers up at Disney for Ralph Breaks the Internet.
I’m still mad they didn’t include Kida in the Princess slumber party. Maybe because she has tattoos but I’d have loved to see her sparing with Mulan in the background or something.
Well, Moana being at the very bottom of the list is quite the controversial choice… at least Ariel isn’t placed at the bottom though since she made her mistakes primarily due to her dad’s mistake… Her dad’s stupid, aggressive, idiotic, life-threatening mistake of destroying her room with an extremely dangerous destructive super weapon his daughter was RIGHT WITHIN RANGE of!
Elsa = indoctrination. At 8yrs old she hurts her sister is then shown horrifying images from the trolls and then her parents literally shut her away and make her conceal her powers because they were dangerous. I agree she could have told Anna about then once the parents had died but she was probably too scared. She abandoned her kingdom simply because her powers were revealed and people were calling it sorcery and that she was monster. It’s perfectly understandable. The sequel however I agree with. It’s like they had completely different writers who didn’t know the characters at all. They ruined everything the first movie built on like the sisterly bond by deciding to separate them.
I wouldn't put moana on the bottom of the list, and i like the movie a lot, but i very much agree. I've always been confused when people say how good she is, even though she seems too sassy to me.
I disagree with your stance of "selfish ness". Many man characters are selfish and get praised for standing up for what they believe in and not backing down because they are strong but when a girl does ot she's annoying and selfish?.. 🙄 And how you said aroaua was better for not complaining about her arranged marriage than marrida. If I was a girl being forced into a marriage I'd complain non stop aswell. She is not interested in any of her suiters and the one she does find attractive is the wrong suiter. In those times women were not allowed to say no. Merida is a 16 year old girl being married off. And you know what happens on the night after they are married... she might not want that at all. It is not selfish of her at all.
I think you misunderstood my criticism, it has absolutely nothing to do with the characters being selfish. In fact, I could argue that Mulan acted selfishly in a sort of way when she took her father's place in the army, but that was for the right reasons and ultimately led to good. I'm not about to suddenly tell you that a character like Tony Stark is actually somehow improved by his selfishness just because he is a guy, his selfishness is a character flaw and I see it as such. In the case of characters on this list, they chose to act selfish but their movies either don't acknowledge their acts as being selfish or no consequences come from their selfishness, which is not good writing in my opinion.
@@Rockotarthepurplehatguy okay sorry if I misunderstood I just hear that word alot when describing female characters and hardly ever hear it come up with males do Lol (not directed at you but the majority or character analysis/ video essays i watch)
Moana is not selfish. Everything she did was to help her people. Nor is she an all capable Mary Sue, she didn't know how to drive a boat. Maui reached her how to do it
I wouldn't count half of the list as official Disney princesses but I think that you did do a good job with justifying your position even though I don't agree with every ranking cause I'll probably change some positions here and there.
It’s really gross to say that it’s a good thing Aurora solemnly went along with an arranged marriage as opposed to standing up for herself like Merida. I’m not saying this is an opinion you actually hold, but it sounds like you’re saying women should just go along with arranged marriages even if they don’t want to.
Pocahontas, Mulan, Kida, and Esmeralda are some of my favorites. I love them. Especially Pocahontas, I always loved and could relate to her and I love Colors Of The Wind, I agree that it's one of the best Disney songs ever. I like Cinderella too. 💗
@@alexa5023 In my opinion, I actually really love the movie. I watched it along with the other Disney movies when I was a small child, but I rewatched it when I was about 12-13. And it really moved me because I highly related to Pocahontas and her spirituality, her connection to nature, and her overall morality and personality. There was no character like her I've seen in Disney movies in my opinion and on top of it, she was native. I loved the message of the movie, her growth with John Smith and the songs, etc. If you disagree, that's totally fine, you don't have to like the movie and that's completely okay. 😊
My favorite is aurora, mainly because she is basically a Traditional representation of a Princess, all the other princesses are potrayed as contrasting from the original narrative.
Always happy to see Mirabel being included among the princesses, because let’s be honest, she actually is. Being the granddaughter (and possible heiress) of her town leader should be enough of a reason for her to count, especially since the same logic is used for Pocahontas and Moana. And I’m overjoyed to see her in the top two as well. I feel like a lot of content creators would make a point of placing her lower because she’s newer and popular. She deserves all the recognition and praise in the world though!
While I don't completely agree with your list, the top spots I do agree with, Mulan has always been great, Mirabel is a great character and I do have nationalist bias for her, a Disney princess from my country yes!! and one so well recieved, even better. I do relate to her a lot despite the fact that I am an only child.
I know this is your list and you’re entitled to your opinion respectfully I disagree on where you point Moana on the list. I know Moana isn’t a perfect character but she isn’t selfish. Moana goal in the film was to return the heart of Tafiti so that everything can return to normal again. When you were explaining why Merida was bad was because there wasn’t a scene where she did anything nice while Moana over here left her family to save them and their home, tried her best to train Maui for him to use is hook again and went back to fight Te Kā by herself even though she easily could’ve gotten killed. And calling Moana perfect and “Mary Sue” is kinda crazy. If Moana was perfect as you depicted her to be how come Maui had to teach her how to sail properly and how to navigate by using the stars correctly because idk if Moana was perfect and as smart as you make her out to be how come she has to be taught these things. The movie doesn’t also make Moana as a person who always right because if they did people including myself wouldn’t be agreeing with Maui when his hook got broken. I think what you’re forgetting about all of this is that Moana is only 16 years old and you think this sixteen year old is perfect? She isn’t and the movie has showed us that she has her flaws and she isn’t as perfect as you think she is. Moana isn’t selfish she just really determined because the ocean chose her to return the heart to Tafiti so that’s why she thinks that she the only one (along side Maui) can do this because not only that the ocean chose her but also because let be honest nobody else would everybody else on the island were to scared and didn’t want to disobey her father orders. And even though she thinks she the only one who can help her people and her island she still doubts herself but regardless of that she still pushes herself and becomes more capable and doesn’t drown in her fear of failure. Moana doesn’t save the day with her fighting skills or any skill at all in that matter, she saved the day because she was compassionate. Instead of seeing Te Kā as the enemy she insteads feels empathy which imo was beautiful along with her song “How far I’ll go” and “I am Moana”. How far I’ll go is a song that abt how Moana wants to prove herself by showing how far she can go and “I am Moana” is a song abt how Moana found herself and know who she is because in the beginning Moana didn’t know who she was but after talking to her grandmother and seeing her ancestors she realizes who she is, she isn’t anyone else but herself which is a strong sign of growth. If you were able to understand Maui how come you didn’t understand Moana? Because this whole movie is literally both of them interacting to save the day. Maui helped with Moana insecurities by teaching her how to sail and to read the stars so that she can guide herself to the right direction and Moana was able to help with Maui insecurities by telling him the demigods doesn’t make him Maui, only he can make self Maui despite not knowing who she really is yet which made their heart to heart conversation even better imo. And idk about you but Moana gives off Mulan vibes. So respectfully yet honest opinion you definitely downplay her quite harshly compare to how she really is in the movie. But what really sucks is that it feels like you don’t like people opinions on why either Moana isn’t selfish or why Moana is a good character. It kinda feels you don’t care abt people opinions unless their opinions matches yours. Not saying that you actually do but every time people try to defend Moana for not being selfish you kinda keep saying the same thing over and over and when somebody agrees with your opinion abt Moana being selfish or annoying you heart their comment and that isn’t very open but I’m not trying to be rude or disrespectful in anyway and I deeply apologize if I do.
oh my god yes, in my opinion Cinderella could even be called underrated, I know she's popular but DAMN she doesn't get enough credit to how strong she was even in the first movie. My girl just so sweet but decisive and doesn't let anyone's bullshit affect her and I absolutely love her personality in general. and yes MULAN BEST GIRL!!! I agree with everything you said and your ranking (even tho WOW you were harsh on Merida lmao) but I must defend Elsa, not because let it go was part of my trans awakening... actually maybe, but STILL!!! Her actions quite make sense when we look at her point of view, a child with magic powers who accidentally hurts her sister and suddently was the cause of the whole fucking castle being shutdown for years and being forced to stay away from everyone. Locked in her room overthinking her every thought and action while even her parents acted like her magic was some kind of sickness. Grew up without knowing a single thing about herself besides the fact that all she could do was surpress everything to protect everyone else, and suddently this immature and isolated girl is forced to rule over thounsends of people after her parents death. To me It's pretty obvious she has some intense anxiety issues, and running away after a disasterous moment really suits that trait. Honestly, It's actually better that Anna became queen cuz having someone with as much issues as Elsa rulling a country would be... yeah.
