Base assassins cowl gives health idk why running knockout to make the spirit also grant health is so bad. Also knockouts health regen is still pitiful in actual gameplay. Good vid tho
as someone with the spirit of bear + armamentarium combo when you end unbreakable, it uses an extra 50% of your grenade energy. so if you were to have unbreakable up for like 5 seconds and let it use like 80% of your grenade energy, ending it would use another 50% and cause it to use 130% of your grenade energy in total you can't use unbreakable for 5 seconds without wasting a grenade and a half
I do disagree about the Leap/Arma combo. I don't think it's S tier or anything but it deserves more than it is getting. Being able to literally suspend an entire room at whim is really good. You don't need survivability in a GM if you can reliably suspend every with two grapple nades, and the low cooldown on dranger's rally barricade. It's a Darkness debuff so your teammates can take advantage of it. The only downside to it, is boss damage. It won't help you at all unless it is a boss that summons adds between damage phases. Imo the only truely A tier of the Leap combos, everything else is pretty bad compared to other combos.
you forgot that star eaters is hot swappable because titan raid teams are you and 5 celestial hunters, the orbs gonna be there lol , nah but really im happy hazardous propulsion is fun to use because bungie did me dirty otherwise.
Inmost/Contact > Inmost/Syntho; jolt on power melee hit is very strong and works on the Consecration uppercut alone at only 50% of a melee charge, so you technically have up to 6 charges of on demand jolt. Strategy being uppercut only on minors and let jolt get the kills, and then save combo slam for majors/champ/boss as needed. Syntho offers more single target damage but also requires 3 close enemies, so not always taking advantage of it. Close offer more value and utility plus that same roll is great in PVP as well, and easily S tier with Inmost.
@@cooldiesel28 and we got Warlocks’ Ophidian as compensation. The kicker with that being that the original Synthoceps exotic is a better option to take over that. Talk about a one sided trade and getting screwed over.
I think the issue with Titan is that out of all three classes it has the generally the worst exotics. It’s really only been Synthos, Wormgods, and HOIL. With HOIL getting nuked (directly and indirectly), the other classes getting Synthos, and Bungie refusing to give meaningful buffs or reworks to the plethora of horrible Titan exotics just leaves us in this situation where Titan has no identity in team compositions. The formula for the past few years has really been: Does Titan have a busted solo raids melee build? Yes? Then Titans are broken. No? Then titans are mid and struggle to find an identity in the game. I think Bungie really needs to reassess the Titan identity and let them be more than “Your guy’s holding the fists on the cover of the game.”
I have 2 builds i do with titan basically. An AWR build for that element, or something weird or fun. Thats basically it lol. Like the failsafe exotic is one of the best titan exotics we got in ages. Wormgods feels fantastic especially with glaives, and scars makes you unkillable, but really other ones are kinda memey if fun. I like lancecap for daimond lance spams especial with the stasis bow. A very..... interesting combo is icefall mantle ith the stasis changes, beccause icefall still gives you. Its own unique overshield, and that seems to stack with frost armor, and you feel unkillable, but being so slow is a bit awkward and takes getting used to. Anyway got off topic but bungie needs to reevaluate titans especially prismatic titans.
At this point, just rework Titans to be the Team Buff Tank. Give us abilities to draw aggro, to give DR to ourselves and allies, and base the subclasses off of real life Warrior Archetypes, so that way we are called the Warrior Class. Not the melee class.
Prismatic titan feels like it was designed with only the one build in mind, and then they forgot they had to add other stuff and just threw in a bunch of random shit. Honestly never felt so bad to be a Titan, and everything other than prismatic feels boring in comparison.
Bro this is real I’ve been feeling the same, although i mainly play hunter, I am in love with anything that involves titan and with the latest that they’ve added to the subclass I can literally only play that one build, that or I get cooked
The even dumber thing is that they could have easily added in a few different aspects as opposed to the ones they chose and Prismatic Titan would been amazing. Into the Fray, Sol Invictus, and Controlled Demolition would have been amazing picks. But instead, they gave us shit aspects that don’t synergize with each other (outside of Knockout and Consecration) that just feels like a “random bullshit go!” idea.
I've been tinkering with Prismatic for a while now and, as a Titan main and someone who's pretty good at buildcrafting (coming from MMOs and such) I've found a few -decent- builds with prismatic, I can get a lot done crutching on the "3 charges of consecration" bit because who can't, that's braindead easy, but really I just keep asking myself with every new build, "Why am I not just playing Strand Titan?" Which is why I laughed my ass off when I saw that "S-tier" was labeled as it was, because holy crap if that ain't the truth lol. And it's not just the Strand Titan is powerful (though no more so than other classes rn) it's that prismatic Titan just really lacks any synergies. Not with it's own ability selection and not with the class items (as demonstrated handily by Mactics).
The thing about spirit of assassin is it’s not just powered melee kills but finishers that make you invisible. So there’s more utility with it when you consider how often you can finish someone
Stunning champs doesn't matter when syntho one shots them, here's an example ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OFrcq1Vkh9s.htmlsi=GKFDtTGjHJoN_eGo
The problem with making prismatic for titan is: they made almost the same melee in 3 different aspects. Strand, Stasis and Solar. We have consagration, fleched storm and the
Stasis one. It would be hell of a messy job putting two together. Then the only viable option from Arc is knockout, which would be absolutely broken if paired with either roaring flames, banner of war or offensive bul (if overshields were easier to get in prismatic). Roaring flames cant really work very well with the stasis and strand granades. Stasis doesnt have any good aspects to combine with because there is little way to make sinergies if not with other stasis aspects really. Offensive bul needs you to have overshields and their is little eay to get them with the prismatic fragments. And having to many options to crowd controll kill every single moment for unbreakable to shine (and really in group content its way better tonused your normal grande because you have no focused fire with other people). The only other sinergies I could think of is replacing knockout with juggernaut and diamond lance with glysciocasm so that you could either run with and overshield tanking, then either proc unbreakable to tank more or throwing a glacier granade before running, tanking with juggernaut and then slide to kill. Thats it. I think that if Sol Invictus or Banner of war were present in prismatic it would be very difficult to balance even if there is only one of those aspects.
A pretty underrated one is severance contact, clears rooms in gms with ease but inmost contact is my fav overall, crazy add clear with ability spam and inmost works with trancendance making both melees and grenades jolt enemies
Spirit of Bear and Star-eater is a great combo. Been playing with it tonnes. Pair it with dealers' choice weapons, tesselation, grenade mods, and max intellect. Get twilight arsenal back in less than a minute, then overcharge the super. Underrated combo.
Eternal Warrior would allow you to run 3x surges on your legs for a secondary DPS swap weapon while still buffing Edge Transit for an entire mag dump in this scenario. With the confirmed upcoming buff to Twilight Arsenal it makes the Warrior / Star Eater / Edge combo even more appealing.
I will say this though: For as crappy as Titans are right now, i couldn't picture my group completing GM Excision without Abeyant Leap and BoW Titans. I felt like I helped carried the entire team, especially when it came to CCing and deleting large groups of champs to farm revive tokens.
I believe that assassin syntho is s tier cuz invis on a melee build is so convenient. picture this, you get kills with consecration and you get the heals from knockout but their is this a group of enemies to deal with (which happens alot), having invis gives you a super easy way to proc syntho and get those kills with consercration without dying in the process. futhermore, invis will keep you alive all the time cuz knockout heals is not regen, its intant, meaning that if their is still some enemies to deal with, you will get shot at with no way to heal afterwards. I guess in a 3-6 player activity its pretty overkill but this combo shines so much in solo content cuz playing solo means that you get all the aggro so invis gives you so much breathing room and having syntho thats deals a ridiculous amount of damage, its an s tier in my book.
Got lucky pulling HOIL and Stareaters and it felt amazing with prismatic titan. Im focusing into void so its nice to have quick grenade up time from HOIL to spam volitile rounds and running buried blood line gives you devour, weaken, and overshield due to the seasonal artifact. Concecration + Knockout and frenzied blade basically giving you 3x melee nukes is great too along with them basically being infinite when in transcendence.
As a Titan main since D1 this finally shedding light on what I been saying for almost 10 years, that we have so many unusable exotics compared to the other classes.
Titan players have been spoiled for years. Titans get all the best things from the other classes, Devour, Resto, healing nades, storm nades. I didnt see any Titan mains saying "this is harming the identity of Titans", but now that they share handful of their exotic perks, its "oh bungie hates titan". Titan has had phases where it's the best class, and sometimes its not the best. This applies to the other 2 clases as well. Sometimes hunter is the best and sometimes it's not. Titan is incredibly powerful right now, with better add clear melee than Hunter, while Hunter is the top melee right now just because of weird tangle abuse that Titan was JUST doing.
spirit of synthos is bait on prismatic titan. if you want melee burst there's better non prismatic options. hoil + contact is the way. play into the consecration spam and spread jolt everywhere. also your consecration now covers all 3 champ types.
What'd we Titans do to Bungie? Three words: Banner of War. Even after they nerfed it, it was STILL the go-to option during a Solar-focused season. Go ahead Bungie, give our Prismatic Banner of War and watch us cook again.
I don’t really understand the problem you stated with assasins cowl. Because to me personally. The thing that made assasins cowl on hunter so good. Is that not only did you get full healed, you also gain invis and from how you explained it. That’s exactly what you can now do on Titan with knockout + assasins. So titans basically have the hunter melee build. And I would even say. That plus point contact cannon could go crazy for survivability. People ran through content solo using arc hunter. Prismatic Titan going invis and clearing ads like crazy would be amazing. Idk it’s just weird that the full heals + invis is praised as insanely good on hunter but not on Titan. Also spirit of the eternal warrior and star eaters is good. The argument that you do the same with surges on boots doesn’t make sense. They stack. You can have surge on your boots and spirit of the eternal warrior together for a massive damage boost. Plus if it’s twilight arsenal and you weaken the boss. Edge transit will do more damage from the artifact mod. Also horn frost is overlooked I think. The shards grant melee energy. And frost armor if you throw on the stasis super. You don’t have to manually break all the crystals. Legit just throw on indebted. It gets a boost from breaking constructs. And one shots the crystals. And then make your shatter explosions larger with the fragment. It’s deffinetly not as good as other things. But it’s not terrible at all. On top of that. You can make your barricade create stasis crystals, and make a strand suspend, and fire comes out. So you end up abusing basically any champion with a barricade cast. It also does tons of ad clear. I just think it’s better than people think. You have to remember all the other benefits you can get. Frost armor is huge. You can defeat suspended targets for benefits. Make shatter and ignitions larger.
You can see Mac try to get back on a positive track part way through realizing how stank the titan pairings are. I credit him for trying to keep things positive and being a positive content creator. Ive been a solo player/titan main since D1, Prismatic is really disappointing. Im legit discouraged from playing destiny rn. Happy for the warlocks tho, yall got some great stuff yall needed. Nothing nice to say about hunters cuz yeah im jealous lol. I hope ol' Bungo helps Titans out.
Bungie giving titans these dog exotic class items and titan prismatic as a whole is like being put in timeout because some gamers decided to solo raid bosses with relative consistency
I'm a warlock main and when i went to unlock prismatic on Titan i was like "diamond lances. They really gave them diamond lances as their stasis aspect?" 😂😂😂 Titans got cooked bad man
Spirit of the assassin and/or severance with synthos is literally one of the best builds in the game ATM when paired with an arc conductor ergo sum. Check out ItzTheDub Gaming solo speedrunning all of the GMs (even the most recent extremely hard one that came out today already) dominating shit with it. Titans have a lot of problems, but they do actually have arguably the best build in the game right now.
That's one of the biggest problems with the titan prismatic options. Almost all of the exotic "Spirits" we got aren't worth using over the actual exotic itself because it's missing the other half that made it so good. Getting woven mail like you said would actually play into a lot of the fragments that prismatic offers. It would be a way to get woven mail and void overshields or frost armor at the same time, which would play into the tank fantasy. But sending out extra lashes is not what I care about. Another example is Spirit of Contact not refunding your melee energy. I'm under the impression that Titan's "Spirits" could have been the actual exotics themselves combined and we still wouldn't be as strong as what some of the other classes have.
Idk what everyone is talking about that prismatic titan is bad? Im literally 1-shotting champs in master nightfalls and im unkillable aswell. I full carry almost every nightfall and my teammates are asking me what build i have because it is so strong. Is nobody playing the right titan builds or understanding how titan is played well?
titans being the melee meme class but getting one of the most refreshing new supers (& only our 2nd ever non-roaming dmg super) is so hypocritical to me. Got these cool new throwing axes with nice damage, but no new exotic or synergies or options to work with the super or other parts of our kit. Once again, left to the wayside, like they want all us titans to just turn into Zavala & let our ghosts go 😔
saying that abeyant leap and synthoceps cant make their fragments work together and then still putting it A tier is certainly a choice. It sounds like they work against each other and therefore youre getting one exotic armor piece for the price of two. But maybe my titan brain just isnt comprehending the build crafting
Bungie definitely hates Titans. They gave us a class item that has a left column filled with 80% of the titan exotics spirits that are not good or are neutered with no synergy with prismatic. The best ones for titans are pairings that all the other classes have Inmost/ Syntho. I feel like this should be a wake up to bungie to show how many titan exotics there are that are struggling to even be exotic because they are that bad. They want us to be a melee focused class, but then when we are too efficient at that they nerf melee builds into the ground. Tough time to be a Titan in Final Shape when you see the cool pairings and synergies the other classes get compared to the stuff we got, which is literally using the same stuff you run on every other subclass.
I love Titan but this class item fell dead pretty much. Why wouldn't they give us useful things like Skullfort or any of the other somewhat good exotics? Based on how they just ignored Mask of the Quiet One on the exotic rework I feel like they are ok with lots of meh options for Titans. I don't really play any other class so I've got no idea if other classes have lots of shot exotics
Their thought should be something like throw glacial grenade, pop hoarfrost, everything is frozen so now you can charge a thunderclap and make the whole room explode. I got a hoarfrost+synthos and i made a build around that. Thunderclap with synthos, facet of ruin and facet of courge plus the artifact make for some funny one shots. BUT. Stand does this way better already. Solar titan does this better already. Heck, point contacts + thunderclap does a bit less single target but pops the room as well and returns energy. Also hoarfrost on primatic titan is hard to use. By the time you got on your targets and with the lack of DR or healing you are as good as dead. Its just not worth it at all on anything other than strikes. The worst thing is that you dont have a melee uptime similar to your class ability so if you plan on using hoarfrost spam you need a GL. Overall fun build but thats where it stops. I was praying we get Cadmus and stasis synergy. But we got this useless thing that i only use because its the new shiny thing.
Prismatic Titan bad, because Titan is bad Strand Titan is the only Titan that functionally has a cohesive kit, and gameplay loop Knockout is pathetic Sol Invictus is good but limited Offensive Bulwark and Controlled Demo work against each other, and Bulwark is just cringe unless you manage to consistently have Repulsor Brace uptime Stasis??? Its fine, Diamond Lance is cool, but you then have a terrible melee so. Twilight Arsenal is the only good Super all the time, and even then its below Nova Bomb or 3 Hunter Supers, the rest are bad or situational/nerfed And then they picked trash for Prismatic I actually think their best Aspect is Diamond Lance and thats not even a joke, and even then its just a freeze projectile Nothing else works together, minus Consecration + Knockout which is braindead and Bungie inevitably gonna nerf it probably, because why not Exotics are almost all terrible or dont scale to higher tier content, Bungie doesnt seem to understand we take Synthoceps and HOIL because theyre the only exotics THAT MAKE TITANS GAMEPLAY LOOP WORK, not because its "overpowered" Class item is pathetic And of course, Titans DPS rotations dont exist, and they actually gave Hunter and Warlock MORE with The Final Shape Just terrible
Titans only got like 2 good aspects and 2 good class item combos😭 were so cooked bro💀 edit: not to mention Hunter's doing more melee damage than any titan build rn
It is wrong that they gave hunters the grapple melee damage crown. I'm a warlock main but titans got taken to the step. Maybe they'll introduce more combos with time and remove some of the deadwood (entire titan prismatic kit) 😂
@@tryingmybest9819 yeah most of the Titan aspects except for knockout and consecration aren’t very good (diamond lance can be okay sometimes). They seriously need to buff the other ones or straight up swap them out (though I’m sure some people would be upset). I’m not sure if they would be able to do that tho. About the Hunter grapple melee thing; I think they should remove the stylish executioner invis melee damage buff but ONLY for grapple melee. That’d solve a lot of problems😅
@@frostmourne1986 I fucking love wishful ignorance so much❤️. Throw on Monte Carlo (depends on how many fireteam members) With flechette storm it’s so much fun spamming ur melees
titan prismatic is just a soup bowl of all the crap no titan main ever used because it sucked. Putting stasis melee in the prismatic kit should be a crime. It's so bad. Why would anyone pick anything but the strand melee when it gives you three charges. So obviously the onlu real choice unless you plan on doing something like a peregrine greaves build on prismatic. I don't hate the nades. The class items are mostly garbage though. I'd argue for spirit of inmost light/armamentarium but only because that would give you 3 melees and 2 grenades with accelerated ability regen. Suppressing/weakening grenades + consecration sounds ok to me. But prismatic isn't the only problem. They've nerfed synthos 3 times and banner of war and its STILL the best build in the game for titans even with an entirely new subclass. They've done almost nothing to make Titan exotics better and if anything slightly overperforms they nerf it. I dont get it
I hate that Bungie has been making titan essentially a melee class for the past several years and simultaneously nerfing everything that makes melee viable. it really makes titan, and especially prismatic titan, very disappointing to play
I iust think making them the melee class, while giving a real kit to the other classes, was a mistake in the first place. Each subclass in Destiny 1 had their own identity that reflected the lore and it made them quite cool in all honesty. Then a meme popped up which was titans being this dumb melee everything class and Bungie, for some reason, decided to make that the new identity of every titan subclass going forward they turned a fuckn MEME into the identity for titans, still so pissed about that and was when they made that shift too.
The Titan should be the melee class and I am fine with it. It's why I picked it up when D2 came out because in D1 I was a hunter main. But the issue is, the game is so anti-melee. Every boss or even mini bosses will stomp you into hell in 1 shot even if their weapon or other abilities don't hit that hard. They've nerfed our ability to be good at being a melee build so many god damn times it's absurd.
@@DeanVarney Yea I just think its quite uninspired, it would essentially be the same as warlocks being the "grenade spam" class, an Identity should be things like "space wizard", "master of mystic arts", "stealthy assassin", "rootin tootin gunslinger", those are identities two of which are associated with two separate subclasses of hunter. I'm just saying that titans could be way more interesting if their identities and design philosophy was still the ones from the lore like it was in D1, "the artillery of the last city sunbreakers", "the unbreakable wall of the last city defender" and "the head first frontline striker" these are actual identities a melee is an ability and titans aren't even the best at doing that. I mean its pointless to talk about anyway since Bungie will do absolutely nothing about it cause it simply is too much work to roll back now. I just wish that they never leaned into a MEME as an identity for the class.
I love smashing things with the Titan but they always just nerf it when it’s fun and actually working as it should. Once they nerf it, just kills the titan that much more.
@@acid_9 yea that's true, that's why having more than one focus(like the other classes mind you) would be nice xd. Cause if melee isn't useful or they nerf a melee exotic the entire class suffers instead of just one build on a class. Titan can feel very nice to play, that's why I'm still playing, I just find myself switching more now a days which is kind of sad since I've been a titan since D1 with ward of dawn.
The Titan Prismatic class item really just highlights how few good exotics Titans have access to. Outside of an obvious missed opportunity like putting Skullfort on there, the options were pretty barren in the first place. The good titan exotics are every good, but they're also extremely few and far between.
I play all three classes. kinda seems like bungie is terrified of making Titan broken. While on the other hand they are making hunter broken on purpose.
They don't want a broken titan because the only one way they think they can do that is 10x melee damage. If Titan were broken in other ways like damage resistance, potent grenades, buffing allies, it would be far better. BUT NO, titans are the melee class in game where half the enemies have a 1-hit kill stomp or a shotgun
Titan has been broken for like a year now, and prism titan is still the second best prismatic subclass the only reason people think it's bad is because it only has one viable build
The exotic class items for titans are just exposing what Titan mains have known for the last 3 years. That only a few exotics are actually useful on our class. And the fact that every other class now has access to two of these just feels like a kick in the nuts (synthos and HOIL). I hope bungie addresses the Titan issues soon.
@@00ABBITT00 Titans had two extremely overtuned PvE subclasses and two extremely overtuned PvP subclasses. Try using void and arc titan in any high level PvE activity and you'll see what he's talking about.
@@00ABBITT00Nobody ever mentioned PvP. Remove void overshields from PvP for all I care. I would rather use thruster anyway. Titans have no diversity and that’s the issue. The only two useful builds you mentioned are punching stuff.
@@00ABBITT00 Dear lord stop being a biased little child. Titans -suffer- from bad class design. First and foremost both of the subclasses you named suck balls on bosses the are not grounded. Stand needed synthos to be proced so if there are no adds you missed damage. Solar was godly in survival but so was warlock. Only solar hunters lacked in the survival of solar since day 1. Also titans are always meta WHEN an exotic is busted: PVP: - one eyed mask with overshield and tracking - loreleys with huge healing and shield - citans when the whole sandbox broke down to pieces and ranged primaries were meta while breaking the shield was hard - dunemarches were bugged and caused more chain lighting from dead bodies or between the same targets - anteus lasting a damn long time - void titan overshield spam, gutted and never retuned again - shoulder charge one shot but in a sandbox full of special ammo and shotgun meta. - bubble in pvp control/trials, but so did well. both nerfed but still strong. - HoiL + storm grenade. Lasted what? a patch? PVE: we have no "busted" exotic in pve. We actually have only 2-3 options and they all come with conditions. - synthos need adds - warmgods need setup with kills before dps - pyrogales needs the boss to not be afar - cuirass and i explain below why it sucks - Note: only pyrogales change the gameplay loop here turning a roaming super into an one off. The rest are just "buff melee damage". So when everything is removed in pvp what does the class itself offers? Nothing compare to the other 2. Hunters have a reposition built in, in an fps game. This is the single most OP class ability in pvp along with the best jump in pvp. Stealth or ranged melees. There is no single hunter spec that is bad in pvp. Warlocks are masters of air taking you down from out of bounds with insanely stupid tracking in all of their roaming supers. Dawn of blade is literary tracking you behind corners. Both of them also have the best stasis pvp builds unlike titan that is based around crystals, and guess how shit crystals are on pvp nowadays. Did i mention that for any titan super to do damage you either need: - synthos + adds alive - cuirass + tcrash to do less damage than needlestorm with nothing. Also less damage than nighthawk golden gun which by the way is 2 clicks while the titan has to travel to the target and return. meanwhile everyone else is shooting. And now we got the worst of the worst in the shape of prismatic while everything else has been nerfed and everyone outperforms us in every aspect. I clearly understand that when the items i mentioned were meta, titans were unhealthy level of op, and that seems to have caused some PTSD to you. But that just shows how problematic the class is and that is why we are asking for reworks for sooo long. Posts like your reply do no good. Just because we get around with something being busted for a while is not fun. We saw a good turn of events with Pyrogales enabling titans a one off AND a good neutral pve game in the solar class that is the best in survival. And then we get this prismatic attrocity and we are back to strand or solar. Again. Stasis is good right now but the roaming super is terrible for dps and even when grounded unless its a rocket setup you are blocking your team. Even the one fun and unique sub that we got is problematic due to being the crystal smashing focused one.
@@niksen3300 yeah, i explained this to one of my hunter friends. Then he just threw me a clip with a titan solo raid and said i don't care, titan is broken. And "you are the only titan in our clan, why don't you do shit in this clip when we raid"... Bro, there's a reason why i'm the only titan in our clan. I don't even want to explain anymore when you guy kill every add you see.. Btw, they give synthos to everyone feel like a wombo combo kick to your nut. Remember when bungie said "we want titan have the best melee in the game" make me really really want to punch them with a T-crash. It's just a pure lie now
The best thing about bear-armamentarium is a single unbreakable cast will consume both of your grenade. its literally possible for a perk on the exotic class item to complete kill the other one.
Honestly the new rocket chest piece better than any class item combo. You can argue for a few builds, but I don’t want to play that way. The chest piece is fun!
severence is bad because they nerfed its damage radius and the spirit version doesn't give escalating damage based on the tier of the enemy. It's completely neutered.
It’s insane to me that Hunters get access to Frost Armor, Woven Mail, and Healing options in their class items, and Titans don’t get shit for survivability.
Titan main here, and honestly my opinion of TFS has vastly shifted in the weeks following release. We got shafted HARD. I feel like people are going to keep running strand builds, and the response from Bungie will be to nerf BoW further instead of fixing prismatic Titan. I am already anticipating this :( I need better drop rates on this class item with how low the odds are to find something usable. At this rate, I will give up farming before finding something S tier. 11 day update: I main a warlock now. Please fix Titan, Bungie
You know that’s exactly what Bungie will do. They always nerf the overused option and hardly ever buff the underused option. Or if they do buff the underused option, it’s not enough to make it worth using still.
Heads up. Also Titan main. Set up an AFK farm, got a god roll class item, and now prismatic Titan really cooks. Kinda hard, but if you can land a good inmost light combo it’s crazy.
I was beginning to get tired of the titan kits last season and was looking forward to broken prismatic builds on titan to respark my love for the class but since the nerfs to strand titan and prismatic sucking I just switched to warlock. Theres just too few options with titan now, and even those options are a shell of their former selves. Why would I use this class when literally Hunter and Warlock do everything that Titans can but better. I just want Titans to be equally as good as the other classes, and it's sad.
No one with even a shred of common sense can sit there and say “Bungie does care about Titans”. Titans are just an afterthought for Bungie at this point…..something they remember they have to do something for with every expansion after they’ve already given all the cool, unique, and powerful stuff to Hunters and Warlocks. It’s painfully obvious no one at Bungie mains a Titan or really cares about where the Titans sit in the meta.
Why was banner of war as op as it was for so long then, the only reason prism titan is considered bad is because of the lack of diversity, realistically the consecration spam build is easily the second best prism build in the game rn
Glad to have pulled inmost star eaters early, inmost alone during transcendence is so good for the stacking ability regen rates. Feels great for general play, at least the one good build is good enough 😅
While I don't think you're wrong about the eternal warrior perk (and other ones like it) not being great, I think it's a bit reductive to say you can switch to surges on your legs. You can have the x4 surge and use 3x surge for your other weapons
Titan main since taken king. Your assessment feels correct. Prismatic hunter feels just… better. Prismatic titan feels like they chose the third best option out of every subclass and said ‘this will do’.
For the spirit of eternal warrior and star eater, the reason you could viably use it is if you put kinetic surges for something like witherhoard or izanagis, while youre using edge transit
Sad when they even hyped it up as being able to do that before release, and then they released it bugged so that it doesn’t work at all. Just shows how much thought and testing Bungie puts into Titan: aka none.
Legit, the Hammer of Sol on Prismatic is so fucking terrible. Without the sunspots from Sol Invictus, Hammer of Sol has to be one of the worst supers in the game……it does no damage and lasts no time before ending.
Stasis, not even close, pure survivability, solar has it, strand is still extremely strong, but prismatic titan, just for transcendence alone, is absolutely nuts. If you’re saying stasis is better than pris Titan, you haven’t made the right build for it
I think you Assasins Cowl argument is flawed. Given your point, there is no reason to run it on Arc Hunter as combination blow heals you (like Knockout), but everyone you included thinks Assasins Cowl is the best choice on Arc Hunter
Strong disagree, assassins cowl is definitely worse than liars numbers wise. My opinion the people that ran assassins with arc hunter were the people that struggled to stay alive and crutched invis to solve that.
@@Bladedanced I think you are misunderstanding my point. I completely agree, I always preferred Liars on Arc Hunter. But Mactics and the community at large gravitated towards Assasins Cowl. I was simply pointing out that saying Assasins cowl is the play on Arc Hunter but isn’t the play here is a conflicting argument.
I have the Drengrs+ synthos combo. It’s insane. I did a master list sector and did 318,000 damage to a champion with a charged thunderclap to a suspended champion. If you use the fragment that has light abilities do more damage to suspended enemies and a pugilist weapon you have constant uptime to your charged melee. It’s awesome.
Hear me out.. you could have done that with just Synthos though. And Synthos would be giving you extra handling and super damage while you're surrounded.
@@Huskers1028cc doesn’t hurt at all. Plus mass suspends then light melees fills transcendence much better which the melees are way more juiced when transcendent with uptime and damage and damage resistance
I think this list is very sliiiightly overvaluing abeyant leap, just because drengr's lash feels pretty rough to use on prismatic since it means forgoing knockout or consecration, and a suspend-focused prismatic feels worse than doing it on strand in every way, but that's sort of a minor quibble.
Abeyant should have given woven mail instead of the extra lashes. Getting access to 10 seconds of woven mail would have been infinitely more useful and would synergize with some of the fragments that prismatic offers.
Not really, it feels fine with Consecration, with the right setup you won't miss Knockout too much, but it depends on the situation. It's more of a end-game support build so you won't feel it's power in normal activities.
Imagine the banned HoiL meanwhile warlocks having like a 5 time faster ability regen now. Imagine they nerfed every melee build for titans + banner of war and hunters are not dealing way more melee damage than us. Imagine the nerfed hammer by putting a cool-down on it and lorely‘s and meanwhile hunters and warlocks have way better survivability than us. Imagine they would have given us banner of war for prismatic but no titans are not allowed to be strong
When I cleared the campaign on legend solo I noticed the prismatic sub class was pretty weak and lacked diversity. This was especially the case when I saw the exotic sub class options. Titans we're down boys. I'm mostly upset that we lack the exotic synergy like hunters i.e. celestial nighthawk and hunt sniper, and warlock exotic helmet with the raid weapon, microcosm. As a extra slap in the face bungee didn't even give us burning maul so we can't use pyrogale gauntlet with prismatic or with the exotic class items SMH wtf
The void Titan aspect is legit the most useless thing they added to any of the prismatic subclasses. The aspect isn’t even good on Void Titan. Prismatic Titan would have benefited far more from Controlled Demolition.
Stunning champs doesn't matter when syntho's one shots them, here's an example ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OFrcq1Vkh9s.htmlsi=MyFYUN0Q5fpylpTV
Anything w/Spirit of the Horn is complete ass. I thought it would be good w/Drangers, but the fire barely tickles them (and that was in strikes too) It's just complete garbage
I find it funny that Aztecross hyped the hell out of that combo before the class item came out only for it to land like a wet noodle (as most people with any common sense knew it would). 😂🤦🏻♂️
Titans didn't get cooked, they got straight up shit on. It really sucks and hope they buff them. It's crazy how they didn't want to have crazy melee builds so they nerfed the titans. But now, hunters are way more powerful than titans ever we're in terms of melee builds. It's stupid.
Man I could have seen so many ways to make this really cool, especially since this was supposed to go with prismatic. Spirit of bear is by far the worst one out of any of the classes. Considering that we have diamond lances as an aspect, I was hoping to have the lance cap to try to do something better with that. There’s just many of these that need tune ups or aren’t being thought about in the context of prismatic
I think you Assasins Cowl argument is flawed. Given your point, there is no reason to run it on Arc Hunter as combination blow heals you (like Knockout), but everyone you included thinks Assasins Cowl is the best choice on Arc Hunter
Dawg that’s what I’ve been saying from the beginning about prismatic Titan. The only actual good/effective end game build that I’ve seen everywhere has been throw on synthos and use consecration with frenzied blade. Ggs go next. Shit is so boring to me now.
