@@davidpirees it is exist ,you Know about Soojin?? She is from 5th gen that's mean 5th gen is start now ! Boynextdoor,kiss of life ,zerobaseone are also from 5th gen
@@Hadid_ja13All-rounders in this context would basically mean that an idol (when called an all-rounder) is skilled in all catagiories: Visual, vocal, rap, dance, and stage presence. Same applies when it refers to a group. It means the group (the idols in the group and the group in general) is skilled in all of the same 5 categories. Some people also say “ace” instead of all-rounders, but it could mean the same thing.
@@user-lr2hh3bv1nIn fact, Yg himself said that others have rap classes, that's Yg, they know the basics. And Ruka must have the most stable vocals than many groups
Baby monster is definitely on another level. Not being biased since i also like new jeans, le sserafim, and nmixx, BM is killing it tho they're a new group.
On another level of what?.. Vocal and dance by Nmixx better, stage presence by Le Sserafim better. Rap is their strongest skill, but Young Posse and XG have better rap lines both. I really like Babymon, especially "Like that", Asa's rap and Rami's voice, but called them ON ANOTHER LEVEL it's too much
@@k_pop_entertainment As I said they're a new group 'ROOKIES', but they're already killing it and as time passes and with more practice and used to being on stage or in front of people and camera they'll surely be amazing and also I agree with you XG has full of talents too and I am not gonna compare any Idols or any GG since every group deserves a praise. I just said on another level since they're very young and they slay already. Anyways if i said it in a way people might find it Exaggerating then just ignore my comment. After all i didn't come here just to gain hate comments since i respect every comments here. Let's just support every group and not being toxic. I love a lot of groups btw and I don't throw hate on any of them or even compare them. God bless.
Yeah but who dances like Ruka, Kyujin, Jiwoo, or Hanni among them? Those are the main dancers, then we also have dancers like Haewon, Haerin, and Chiquita in the other three groups. The best dancer in LS is Chaewon and she's on a LEAD dancer standard.
And now they have debuted. Btw unfortunately BM lost Ahyeon (on hiatus) 😢 Edit: Luckily BM is back with Ahyeon, and CB in April with Ahyeon 💗 Edit 2: Thank you @Milinskyyyy for telling me, I didn't know before, even though now I know because I've only just become a YG stan
Tbh Batter Up felt like a rejected Blackpink song, they are giving me Diet Blackpink vibes, I prefer Le Sserafim Perfect Night is too addictive in comparision or anything from New Jeans
@@amigos2841 Please😒 that doesn't erase their talent . You guys are already calling them flop just with one song. You just scared they will surpass you faves. Batter up isn't even that bad.
@@loo269 actually not scared about that I was a blink first before listening to New Jeans and Le Sserafim just saying they need there own style and something unique especially since New Jeans style is very refreshing and unique, because what worked for Blackpink won't work for them, they are way too young for the girl crush concept they are literally kids, Batter Up is not a bad song I liked it but didn't love it, its just listen to the Blackpink ai cover and tell me which version sounds more natural honestly
@@amigos2841 yes i know what you are saying but yg is not dumb , it's just their first song and i don't think his project for Babymonster is to have the same concept as Blackpink. It's just the yg formula song even Treasure had that kind of sound and structure.Their next comeback will be different imo.
I think you didn't really understand what is "good dancer". Try to watch some of dancers show, like "Street women fighter". Or just BoA, Momo, Chaeyeon (not her sister) dance performances. Le Sserafim is the best performers, but their dance skills pretty lack. And their choreography always simple.
@@k_pop_entertainment this is not dancer individual category as a group overrall everyone gd i meant .. other group has like up downs like some gd some are oky kinda .. and you should try their choreography i mean if u campare twice dance go lesserafim .. its lesserafim choreography is more hard as a group synchronisation kinda things also a dance skill
@@DamienkaiSince when was synchronisation a dance skill? All that requires is for someone to be able to listen to the music, know how to count and know when to dance. That’s just thinking. Even though they’re synchronised, one member may mess up the footwork, one may be stiff, one may not have enough power in their moves and so on. Also having hard choreographies doesn’t instantly make you a good dancer. It’s about how you execute it. For example, Kazuha is stiff, she often misses hand details and has poor isolations. Also if you’re talking about, “whole group” and comparing twice and lsrfm then twice wins. Momo and Jihyo top Sakura, Chaewon and Yunjin, Sana and Nayeon are equal to those 3, Jeongyeon, Dahyun, Mina and Chaeyoung are equal to Eunchae and Tzuyu is equal to Kazuha.
@@MIDZYwhoBLINKedONCEinNEVERLAND you are clearly a hater man .. im just saying.. u are saying kazuha is bad .. you should check blue flame choreography i bet even momo can't do kazuhas part haha .. don't get me wrong i love twice.. you don't seems to understand what im saying.. stiff? Come on man look at their dance video at least before come here and talk shit about them ! Period even in their debut song fearless its lot of ground work and still they manage to do it smooth if those things not dance idk what else it is !
I don’t think either of us were crying. It was a simple statement regarding the obviously better vocal quality of NewJeans (which have done Killing Voice) compared to Lesserafim (which hasn’t). And yes, being able to sing live is a clear indication of true and consistent vocal skill.
Yg nextt moment ......🎉 Don't hate me but bm is soo talented , when yg makes a girl group after 7 years, it ain't a joke. " blackpink grew into a mega global group, i want to traine the next group well as well" *" i need to chose best among the best"*
they are a all rounder group, not an ace, because an ace means they can sing,dance,rap and produce/write songs, which none of nmixx members can do, but they are an all rounder group, and not ace, because they can only sing dance,rap but not produce/write songs.
@@user-ek7qg1ln5y I listen to song if it is good. Not because someone just talented made it because that is god gifted. And if we speak about hard work, then all idols do hard work.......
@@BlackJenQueen Nope, ace is completely different from all rounder Ace means you excel in every category and can produce, write, choreograph, compose songs. Example: Woozi, Soyeon and Bangchan.
Nahh stage presence is def babymonster and they haven't even been on any music shows or award ceremonies this is literally jus thru their live performance versions of batter up posted on their RU-vid channel. There is so much more to come ya'll gonna see.
Baemon def has stage presence, but imo part of what brings it is their energy and dancing abilities. I think LSF despite not being as good at dancing still is able to bring that stage presence, which is why I agree with them being above Baemon. Because their SP alone carries them
@ameliarose47 I don't agree bec girl babymonster is more of a performer group than dancers. Most of the 4th gen ggs are highly choreo oriented and have really hard choreos which also makes it hard for them to sing for example the recent LSF controversy even tho I don't think they are the worst in stage presence but my point still remains stage presence means eye contact w the camera, facial expressions, ability ho engage the audience and have them only look their way, hyping up the crowd etc and its not jus a babymonster characteristic it's a yg thing as a whole so for me babymonster def takes tye trophy.
@@mariyambatool9331 Well UpTo now Lsf has shown their sp enough but not seem much of BM so can't judge them here but they look more like a choreo oriented group don't know if they'll have a great stage presence ...
@labibzawoad7966 lol you don't even say them they haven't even started officially promoting yet go watch their performance vids on thier channel if you rly care that much those alone give more stage presence then lsfs 2yrs or worth of performances and its jus facts
@@mariyambatool9331 Oh is that so?? I didn't know lip syncing and dancing the choreo made all of the stage presence... And pre recorded performances are quite easy to pull off dude... Stage presence there?? After so many retakes and editing and they can't slay and didn't do it yet... As I said didn't see much of them yet... Who knows maybe they can be a group with good songs like New jeans but can't slay enough like LSF.... No hate to any of the groups though... Everything can't be perfect...
Babymonster is a charming group . They arent weak in any sector . Ruka and asa have a strong dance line Ruka , asa and ahyeon build a strong rap line . Rami , rora , ahyeon ( + chiquita , pharita ) makes a strong vocal line . And the whole grouo has incredible stage presence. Babaymonster fighting !
@@pinkycherry4903in terms of dance, new jeans is def better, but if we are talking about all the members skills, their is now way nj can beat babymonster, baemon girlies are all rounders 😭.
My God, look at the difficulty of the choreographies in general, I think that objectively and considering the overall level of the LSF members is the best dancing, without any doubt.
@@relaxmusic3890 nmixx's choreographies are complicated, but without a doubt LSF's are even more complicated. A great example is Easy and Eve Psyche... But that's my opinion, for other people they may think it is nmixx or new jeans
@@BihunJagung-sl4jdBabymonster is all rounder as well . Asa is a true Ace , if babymonster brought back ahyeon than babymonster would be 7 monsters of pure talent 😞. Also nmixx is from JYP 😂.
For me: Vocal Nmixx Baby Monster Le sserafim New Jeans Rap Baby Monster Nmixx Le sserafim New Jeans Dance Nmixx Baby Monster New Jeans Le sserafim Visual Kbs Korean Nmixx 4 members entered the highest Korean beauty The 2 members Lily and Bae are often praised for their beauty, Lily has pink hair, Bae has hair ornaments and blush on New Jeans Baby Monster Le sserafim Stage presence Le sserafim Nmixx Baby Monster New jeans Because of the concept
Brahh I don't think so like Nj have member who are all above tier7 high or tier6 mid while LSRF ot 5 are low tier 7 or low tier 6 Itzy,Nmixx and Newjeans are group where most/all member can be the main/lead dancer in other groups 😊
@@kenpautuOnly jiwoo can kind of rap but not really . Asa , Ruka , potentially chiquita , rami all rap . Asa is a speed rap star, ruka is a YG rapper . Asa and ruka are the queen of rap in 4th and 5th Gen.
LET ME TELL YOU VOCAL Nimixx Baby monster Newjeans Le Sserafrim DANCE Baby monster Nimixx Newjeans Le Sserafrim Stage presence Baby monster Newjeans Le Sserafrim Nimixx VISUAL All (cuz all are pretty)
Dance is definitely Newjeans cuz they have one of the strongest dance line in Kpop and Every member can be a main dancer in other gg and babymonster freestyle is pretty weak, they are definitely not best in dance And how babymonster is 1st in sp when they haven't performed in front of real audience?? You all overrate Babymonster so much
Newjeans is definitely and technically the best in dancing out of all these groups. Nmixx is 2nd. Babymonster barely has any material yet but as for now they’re fine in 3rd, although they have a high possibility to be higher in the future since they’re supposed to be a old school hip-hop based group. Le sserafim is one of the weaker dance groups but their stage presence makes up for it. Newjeans have amazing groove, musicality, bounce, basically overall technique. Their dances are hard to pull off and it has a lot of hip-hop elements that a lot of idols struggle with. Their weakest dancer, Hyein, is around Karina’s level, and that’s bc of her inconsistency, her best moments are almost on par with Kyujin.
As an NSWER, Thank you! Finally people acknowledging their talents. They're the ace group of 4th gen. Every member is a vocalist. All of them have good sp and can dance, rap. NMIXX is such an underrated group tbh
Visual- Nmixx New jeans Le sserafim BM Dance- Nmixx BM New jeans=Le sserafim according to the visual, Le sserafim cannot be the first, even New jeans are more suitable, Nmixx has the most visual, and Sollyoon is generally in the top 3 visual of the 4th generation). Dancing is also an element of Nmixx, because their dancing is much more difficult, while they also sing live
Exactly, this whole ranking is wrong, Le sserafilm can't even sing live whereas NewJeans atleast can sing better than them, I agree that Baemon is a all rounder group but NewJeans are also kinda all rounder cuz 5/5 can sing, 5/5 can dance, 4/5 have stable vocals, 3/5 can be maintained dancers, 2/5 can rap so, I think maybe Baemon and NewJeans are better than rest in my opinion.
Dance: Nmix, Lee serafim, New jeans e Baby monster Visual: Lee serafim, Nmix, New Jeans e Baby monster. Vocal: Nmix, Baby Monster, Lee serafim e New Jeans Rap: Baby Monster, Nmix, Lee serafim e New Jeans ❤
Not for dance, first is Nmixx 2nd is NewJeans. NJ’s weakest is Low/Mid Tier 6, however their strongest is a Low Tier 5, meanwhile NMIXX’s strongest is Mid Tier 5
Nope it isn’t wrong you’re just overestimating Baemon and underestimating NMIXX and NJ - as a group they’re both better at open style than Baemon Their lowest dancer is mid tier 6 which is the same level as Asa/Ruka for New Jeans and the rest of the NJs members are better than everyone in Baemon And NMIXX’s highest two dancers Jiwoo (low tier 5) + Kyujin (high tier 6) are better than Asa and Ruka so the rankings right the only thing you could change is perhaps NJ>NMIXX but Baemon stays where they are
@@enhypen4ever_123 go and first watch babymonster dance performances then come here NJ dance is week and NMIXX and BAEMON they both can be first but not NJ please 🥱
@@blinkblinkeu8707hanni of new jeans is tier 5 dancer so its clear that she is better than the whole better than the whole baby monster and harien too
Don't be mad, but in dance it would be New Jeans. Most people think New Jeans are not talanted. But cmon, Each member is higer then 6 tier. (There are 7 tier dancers in Nmixx) so overall they are(New Jeans) 1st
