Ranking Pickleball Companies from Best to Worst 2023

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1:09 - Electrum
1:42 - Head
2:19 - Gearbox
2:53 - Onix
3:42 - Vulcan
4:36 - Wilson
4:53 - XSPAK
5:38 - CRBN
6:16 - Yonex
6:44 - Joola
7:40 - Vatic Pro
8:45 - PaddleTek
9:31 - Adidas
10:58 - Franklin
11:18 - Six Zero
12:25 - Engage
13:20 - Hudef
14:37 - Volair
15:29 - Legacy
16:32 - Gamma
17:16 - Oya
18:22 - Selkirk
19:32 - Diadem
21:17 - Ronbus
21:59 - Spartus
23:00 - Pickleball Apes
24:13 - Ace
25:13 - Pro Kennex
25:45 - ProXR
26:51 - Revolin
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28:23 - ProDrive
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@PickleballStudio Год назад

The new Engage Pro seems to be making some noise (in a good way) which was announced after this video. I'll see if I can get one to check it out. Might bump Engage up a few slots.

@seanp777 Год назад

But the price of that new Engage paddle tho and I currently play MX Pursuit 6.0 & Volair Mach 1. Even with discounts it’s still a pricey paddle, which would prevent me from getting one. Got big discount on my MX

@nicholaswittendorf7230 Год назад

The engage pro gets incredible spin

@tyeung92 Год назад

the big sell has to be the warranty

@MaxsterACE Год назад

Looks like Engage gave up on the LX paddles

@colebailey8882 Год назад

Any word on this review in the future. Really looking forward to it

@matthewandkristenturvin9049 Год назад

Love the list Chris. It is amazing to see how the paddle landscape has changed in the last year. Three small, grass roots companies beating out the giants. You love to see it!

@johnnyy072 Год назад

Bought a Vatic Pro Prism V7 and I love it. The quality and performance is absolutely outstanding. Of course the price is bananas. Need to support companies like this.

@scotttesar7156 Год назад

Agree 100% - used this one 100% of the 3x I played this past weekend, and was pleased with the spin, touch, feel and overall performance... for sub $100??? NO brainer....

@Whallen9 Год назад

Been using a Joola paddle for a year but now have the R3 pulsar 16mm which has been an eye opener on how it’s changed my game. Lisa at Ronbus has been supportive and accessible….great customer service and responsive.. Great paddle for the price , great control, and power when needed

@danpiedra3910 Год назад

The more stories you hear about Ronbus' paddle and their excellent customer service, the more you are inclined to become a customer of theirs. I think with many new manufacturers coming out with great paddles (Bison, Pickleball Apes, etc.) what will eventually keep these manufacturers at the top, is how they react to customer service issues, not just product development. The development of new tech means nothing if they do not stand behind their product. You only get one chance to keep a customer.

@gaiusgracchus7475 Год назад

But the prices are so high... some of the priciest of all paddles out there.

@danpiedra3910 Год назад

@@gaiusgracchus7475 Joola paddles and Selkirk are among the pricier paddles. Doesn't mean they are tbe best. Many other options are great.

@brianporter2806 Год назад

Love the list and 100% agree! I've tried or owned pretty much all of them in the S and A tiers and when it was all said and done... I went back and bought a Joola Hyperion. We may need to start a discord support group for people like myself who just can't break away. They may be stuck manufacturing that model for the next 10 years. :-)

@danpiedra3910 Год назад

Great video Chris! I think you have nailed this and while some may argue the position of a few, it is very accurate to me. You have done a great job of demoting those manufacturers who have not maintained their previous year's growth both in terms of paddle technology, but also reliability, performance, and price points. I am very happy to see that some of the paddle manufacturers who have struggled with quality issues were demoted, as they should be. Your channel gets many views, so if I were one of those companies I might pay a bit more attention at nailing down quality or at the very least, providing superb customer service because I really think that some of these manufacturers have lost customers - not because their paddle does not perform, but because of all the issues with a new paddles (sometimes in only a week or two - unacceptable). I also like that you noted those manufacturers who are taking shortcuts or "cheaping-out" on handles, etc. Finally, I am very happy to see great paddles being made for around $100-120 which hold up and which contain all of the benefits of a Gen 1 paddle. While everyone seems bent out of shape chasing power, these paddles offer a better blend of control and power.

@robertnowak13 Год назад

I play with Ronbus, 6.0, and Vatic Pro. I approve this list.

@JosephTMyers Год назад

lol

@800over Год назад

I have a few of the $200 plus paddles from Engage and Selkirk....but now i am loving my Vatic Prism and Ronbus for $100. No need to spend more for me at least. (The prism is a revelation!)

@stratelyze2095 Год назад

Great presentation. I have two ideas for you to consider. During reviews, disclose warranty and return policies and add a column to your spreadsheet to select individual paddles across brands and then filter on the list as most of us are trying to narrow down specs to 4-5 paddles and this would make it easy. Thanks

@Aaron-mn2ro Год назад

the way joola tries to throw its weight around to bully other companies like legacy for example out of the scene should be enough to lower them to C at least in my opinion. They should be advocates for the game, helping it grow, not trying to kill competition by getting them trapped in legal battles

@douglasmurdoch7247 Год назад

To be fair, what was Legacy thinking with their logo? It's obviously a riff on the Joola logo, there's no way it's a coincidence. They kind of brought it on themselves.

@rbb2114 Год назад

⁠⁠@@randyhanna1954not trying to argue one way or the other, only want to point out that you saying "it would be the legacy mistook for a joola...joola is t losing anything" that's actually exactly why joola would be upset. New customers may purchase a different brand thinking it's joola and or in the wild someone may mistake a paddle they might not like as a joola both of which affect their brand

@Navs126 Год назад

@@rbb2114no one mistakes a Joola for a Legacy or vice versa.

@douglasmurdoch7247 Год назад

Yes the update! I love how this video needs to be redone every few months because of how fast the paddle space is moving

@irablumberg5986 Год назад

I completely agree with your S group as I now play with the Vatic Pro Prism Flash and my wife plays with the Ronbus R1 Pulsar and these are both great paddles that have held up quite well through lots of hours of play. I have also tried the Six Zero DBD and it felt nice, they just don't have enough supply. On the other hand, I would not keep Selkirk or Joola in the A group. Selkirk has not introduced anything new at the consumer (versus Lab) level in almost a year and is really falling behind the market and the prices for Selkirk's top paddles are much too high given all the competition. Joola at least has introduced some new and seemingly good quality paddles recently, but again, the prices are just too high given the competition. In any case, good presentation as usual.

@inApickle_ball Год назад

What does the "S" mean in the S Group? Thanks RJ

@samfisher5572 Год назад

Love Vatic. Just delaminated my V7. Took about 2 months of play 5 days a week. Incredible customer service though.

@itsDecap Год назад

Loving the S tier paddles - currently have the R3.16 and looking to move onto the Ronbus R1 Pulsar!

@justjosh0368 Год назад

Just FYI, I bought a Vatic V7 at the end of March 2023 and it is pretty delaminated at this point. So got about 4 months out of it with pretty heavy use. Lots of spin and power. Contact with the ball doesn't feel super plush but control comes from getting used to it. Wish the handle was a tiny bit longer and the swing weight a tiny bit lower.

@PickleballStudio Год назад

Thanks for sharing! Though, I think March may have still been the original batches. I'd have to ask them when the updates came. I thought it was post March.

@berimboplata Год назад

I think one thing missing in your evaluations of companies is warranty support. Anecdotally, Six Zero has not been responsive to my friend's delaminated double black, whereas CRBN has a 1 year warranty and sent out a replacement that landed on my doorstep 1 week after I filed a claim. Most others are 3-6 months.

@stevenramirez667 Год назад

I love all of your videos and reviews! You gave out some caveats to some brands for good reason. It is worth noting that Selkirk has THREE different lines of paddles for a reason. Entry, middle, and advanced. I personally separate the price point of Labs because it reflects that the paddles are not mass produced and part of early R&D. You even have to apply to purchase a Labs paddle, which gives you an out unless you REALLY want the Labs paddle. May be my brand-washed opinion but I think Selkirk has offerings at all levels

@danpiedra3910 Год назад

True, but you can argue that what they are putting out in the Selkirk Labs series has been duplicated by others for a third of the price.

@stevenramirez667 Год назад

Good point, but a replica is a replica. I can build a 1,000 HP Honda civic for $10k, but it's still not a Ferrari@@danpiedra3910

@kylepickleball Год назад

Can't go wrong with Ronbus, that's an easy decision all day

@sidoirm Год назад

Love all your tier lists and reviews! You should do a pickleball shoe review or tier list! I have now gone thru a pair of ASICS and new balance both extremely quick. The tred just doesn’t last and I only play 2-3 times a week albeit I am 180lbs but $150 for a pair of shoes that only lasts a years worth of play is kinda nuts

@goldenchildtheater Год назад

You’re lucky, I recently had the dilemma of finding the right shoe and from what I was reading, people are going through shoes in a few months! I can’t buy a 100 dollar pair of shoes every few months lol

@PickleballStudio Год назад

I'm working on a Selkirk shoe review! I probably won't go too deep into shoes though. I love my Head Revolt 4.0s and I'd rather not risk my feet for reviews. 😂

@carlanderson4139 Год назад

I've been using the heads since your announcement of the deal. I like them and the uppers have held up really well, but the soles have worn fast. Significant holes in the outer layer and the ridges completely worn away in a lot of the sole I'm only 150 pounds and 64.

@PickleballStudio Год назад

Yeah, I have noticed the soles wear quickly too. That's the one thing I'd say is a bummer, but I guess it's made up by the warranty. I'm hoping on the next model they fix that.

@jimwaldemarsen472 Год назад

Great video Chris. Your rankings are very solid.

@tedjeanmahoney8547 Год назад

Great Job. Thanks for the time to put all this together for the New B's. keep up the good work. T MO

@JakeHenry Год назад

I'd love to talk about CRBN more. I haven't heard much about them breaking. What have you heard?

@krahlmail Год назад

Thank you, I use the Legacy and Legacy Pro and love it so far but haven't tried anything else yet. If you were to recommend an upgrade in feel and equal or more power what would you suggest.

@PickleballStudio Год назад

Feel is a bit subjective. Your options would probably be a CRBN1X, Vatic Pro Flash 16mm. Power is also a bit tough, because with core crushing, some paddles have been more powerful out of the box without people necessarily noticing.

@JosephTMyers Год назад

Maybe Yonex and Wilson can actually sit down (they way they have historically with tennis pros) with players and recraft some quality offerings! Wouldn't this be a dream for pballers all over?!

@RitaHarrington-q7e Год назад

I totally agree with you on your picks. I absolutely love my Ronbus R3Pulsar and patiently waiting for the new Ronbus paddle "the Ripple ". Great review 😊

@jessemorgado1297 Год назад

Agree with your placements. It’s a shame that Selkirk has really fallen behind. The prices they were asking when the power air/002/003 came out were already a stretch, but now with all these companies making awesome paddles for cheap, it’s pretty unreasonable. I’d say the only thing that’s really “S” tier worthy of them is their QC and warranty.

@Aaron-mn2ro Год назад

Don't forget all the money they inject back into the game with sponsorships and outreach programs

@zeruth467 Год назад

@@Aaron-mn2roand? Lol Does nothing for the average player. They’re just another Nike or adidas if not a “luxury” brand like Gucci for the pickleball world lmfao.

@scotttesar7156 Год назад

I dunno - seems like a lot of expensive (and frequently overwrought) television advertising that customers are subsidizing...but that's just me....

@thepickleballstore Год назад

Great video Chris :) Interesting comparing this to last years list to see some of the movers.

@PhoenixRugerRedBird Год назад

Of the paddles I own and play with....(1st thru 5th), my go-to is the Forza 16mm, then DBD 14mm, Forza 14mm, 11six24 YSF, and lastly the Model E Elite. My Forza 16mm and DBD 14mm are very similar with regards to power/spin/control, just prefer the slightly longer handle on the Forza for my 2 handed backhands.

@vladjax_pb Год назад

How's the 11six24 paddle? I ordered it recently due to a good discount.

@roguegaston Год назад

It should be interesting to see what's coming next from Electrum.

@Andrewbingham22 7 месяцев назад

If you are one of the many who paid a premium for this paddle and got a dud. And Gearbox won't stand behind the warranty. Simply file a claim in your community small claims court to hold them accountable. Not sure what is worse their quality control or their customer service.

@twodubz2280 Год назад

I look forward to these. Thank you!

@bryanserkin2742 Год назад

@pickleballstudio I recently purchased the vatic pro flash (orange logo) and just saw this video and you seemed to like the prism flash (purple logo) more. I was curious if they were both the same price which paddle do you think is better overall? Appreciate your feedback!

@CyberSonic157 4 месяца назад

At 22:33 you said you were gonna review the Ballista V2 next month. Did that fall through? Would love to see a review on it! From what I hear, it's very comparable to a Luxx but at a much better price point.

@richardb7093 Год назад

Tried the Slinger and the Tutor Plus . While the Slinger wins in convenience, some what, the Tutor wins in ball flight and control. I purchase a carrying strap with handle ($12 Amazon) and that took care of the awkward handle location of the Plus. The small wheels are an issue when rolling thru grass or gravel which seldom occurs. Because I converted my tennis ball hopper to pickup pickleball balls carrying balls isnt a problem. So for most part the convenience is taken care of. (you didnt mention that the oscillator on the slinger has to be carried and the bag mounted on of it and then connected. Pretty inconvenient). But the spins, speed, elevation control, 2 line and random control on the Plus is superior. The addition $200 the Plus costs is worth the money. Especially when the 3 year warranty and customer support of the plus is considered.

@FrankSolana34 Год назад

Love the honesty. Great video

@zacharyalonte8904 Год назад

What’s up guys

@ericl5471 Год назад

What issues do you see with the Vulcan V570s? Have one now and enjoy the touch and feel with no issues so far (I’m a beginner few months into playing)

@WhitePillMan 7 месяцев назад

yeah same. I can't find mention of issues anywhere. It's a very solid control paddle imo.

@alexandrebFRUS Год назад

Was waiting for this one !!

@shelbylangston329 Год назад

Looking forward to a Maverix Havik-16 and Zenith C7/C8 review. I'm pretty confident the C7 C8 four titles under $100. And the Havik-16 4125 shipped with the hat and pedal cover! My opinion the best deal best value for a modern paddle. And I dig the shape and the swing weight.

@shelkatz Год назад

I love my XSPAK! Got it for $80 on Amazon! No one can beat that!!

@boli1974 11 дней назад

Just curious - why is Niupipo an F? I know they don’t have a big brand, but I own a Niupipo T700 CF myself, and I cannot tell the difference between this Niupipo and my other paddles (Vatic Pro prism flash, Spartus, CRBN 1X, etc). In fact, I feel my Niupipo sometimes outperforms my other paddles, but maybe I am just not good at assessing paddle quality…

@buildingpickleball Год назад

This is pure comedic gold. Thank you.

@jaeronmoreno3224 Год назад

Why’s that?

@timkadom1722 Год назад

Would love to see your tier list as well. Get on it!

@bryanyee7 Год назад

Have you done a detailed review of the Bison Rampage paddle? I would be curious as to your thoughts about how it compares to say the Gearbox CX14H or the Joola Radius.

@tilyt Год назад

Agree with your comments on ProDrive Ghost (needs lead weight) and Drive carbon (heavy); however, I'd rate them an "A" now that they have a full lineup of offerings & price points, and especially because the original (non-carbon) drive paddle is a phenomenal blend of power and control.. a much better version of a Diadem Warrior.

@JRJ_JD_27 Год назад

Will you ever do a review of the Ballr Pro paddle? Gen 1 raw carbon fiber but 6" handle. Similar to Hyperion imo but for less than half the price. Plus I like the company's mission. Would love to hear your opinions.

@kimleith1378 Год назад

Thanks Chris for taking the time to update this list. I'm hoping that Pickleball Apes puts out more options soon. Standard head shape with shorter handle for me. Really hope the Kevlar blend with carbon fiber helps with the "delam" issues. Adhesives used by all these companies, seem to be "secret". Maybe you know different????

@douglasmurdoch7247 Год назад

The "delam", or core corruption issues are in the core, not the paddle face material. So it's unlikely that a kevlar/carbon blend will make a difference. It's caused by the core material becoming brittle during the hot molding process.

@kimleith1378 Год назад

@@douglasmurdoch7247 Delamination and core crush are NOT the same thing. The face material can "separate" from the core if the "adhesive" process is not done right, or is affected by the heating process.

@douglasmurdoch7247 Год назад

@@kimleith1378 I’m well aware of that, but actual delamination almost never happens. It’s just the name that stuck, because it’s what people thought was happening when it was actually core corruption. True delam is a rare issue.

@stacy695 Год назад

I wish Ronbus, Vatic & SixZero would have some lighter weight options for women.

@luq127 Год назад

Hi Chris! I was wondering if you’d heard anything about the Holbrook Power Pro paddle? Appreciate all of your content and advice!

@PickleballStudio Год назад

Haven't been able to check it out!

@EdNichols-qj4xk Год назад

Hi Chris. Every time I see an updated video on your Paddle ratings the list of companies grows which requires more of your time but I wonder if you have tested any paddles from TMPR?

@PickleballStudio Год назад

I haven't gotten to try TMPR yet. I have one high level player here who uses the new raw carbon one though.

@goldenchildtheater Год назад

I don’t understand why companies are still charging 200 bucks for a new paddle when there’s so many 100 dollar options that are better

@matthewandkristenturvin9049 Год назад

Because their customers keep buying them. These companies have the marketing budget to hit the mainstream markets or be sold in big box stores and major retail websites. Vatic, Ronbus and 6.0, which are pretty unanimously the best paddles on the market, are cheaper but don't have the means to get as many eyes on their product.

@imuahayn8082 Год назад

Big money sponsorships for players and tournaments

@goldenchildtheater Год назад

@@matthewandkristenturvin9049 makes sense. Only the hardcore players that keep up with new tech are going to see these types of paddles.

@800over Год назад

Because they keep selling them. I loved my Engage until I tried some other less expensive (ronbus) paddles but I see engage paddles everywhere. As long as they sell they will keep making them.

@mango0686 Год назад

Because people are willing to buy them? Lmao

@duckyboy53 Год назад

6.0, I have a paddle that just received two days ago and I had deformed dent/hole on the face. Not sure how long it will take for them to respond.

@MrJgoodwin7 Год назад

You should review the Versix RAW 6C+

@brianmulholland1474 Год назад

Forgive my ignorance, but what does S stand for ?

@BookValue2018 Год назад

Cool video - but I would recommend defining your criteria a little more. Some times you're ranking paddles high based on price-quality ratio (Vactic). That's fine - but for someone who plays tournaments every month, I'm more curious in pure quality. Perhaps that's two videos...but you get my point.

@PickleballStudio Год назад

Yeah, I feel you. I can’t please everyone haha. You could rank companies on quality, performance, price, warranty, customer service, what they do for the sport, variety, etc. there’s a never ending amount of ways you could rank them.

@NJacana Год назад

Did I hear Prince? My local tennis shop has Prince paddles, never seen anyone with one.

@garypreisendorfer3668 Год назад

What do you mean when you say that your friend has "broken" three legacy pro paddles? I know when you first reviewed a Legacy Pro, one of your main points was that you could not break it at the handle (probably because it is one piece thermoformed). I have warranteed my first Pro due to delamination but "broken" ? Does your friend actually break them or is it something else like edgeguard or delamination? I really respect your opinions and bought my legacy after watching many of your reviews.

@PickleballStudio Год назад

Delamination.

@nadzoll Год назад

Good, looking forward!

@robrodgersse Год назад

I have two legacy paddles and neither has broken

@HallingAdventures Год назад

If you want to know about what Gamma is up to, please reach out. I am in product development for paddles and can let you know what has been in development

@kylepickleball Год назад

Felt the Obsidian was a let down. Gamma had ages to catch up with the market and the Obsidian was already behind when it made its debut.

@PickleballStudio Год назад

Where should I reach out?

@HallingAdventures Год назад

@@PickleballStudio I'll send you a message with my email on your website

@PickleballStudio Год назад

Look forward to it!

@MrJCBishop 10 месяцев назад

Would the Diadem Warror v2 be a buy now that is on sale and with code is 160ish?

@frydog1ea Год назад

While I was looking at the B&B Filth for my next paddle, this might have swayed me to pick up the Ronbus R3 Pulsar instead.

@reecespeeces1351 Год назад

What is your main paddle?

@zachcarmichael699 Год назад

I think he said the SixZero Double Black Diamond a while back.

@themaddscot Год назад

Of course can't comment on many of these but... Vulcan I feel dropped the ball, I have played the V570, V740 (new JD paddle) and expected more from the V900 series, but my game has moved on. I got a 6.0 and loved it until I got the Ronbus right after I now have to give the R1 Pulsar a go, as my new fave is the Ronbus R3. For me as a bigger guy who wants a bit of control it seems to fit me better than the 6.0 which I have in the bag but the Ronbus R3 Pulsar seems to be the one I go to...

@Michael_AvsFan354 Год назад

Im switching to Ace, but I’m spending $50 on it. Using a discount code and selling my old paddle. I’ve seen nothing but great reviews for ACE including a friend who used it.

@PickleballStudio Год назад

Yeah, you can’t go wrong for $50 haha

@romanhernz3839 Год назад

Have you heard of Cheetah Predion E16 Af Cf 3K carbon fiber face, core made out Aramid fiber product involved in making Kevlar, let me know. I do own and play with Vatic pro, 6.0 Double Black Diamond, Ronbus, and Volair Forza great paddles. great review. thanks for the information.

@inApickle_ball Год назад

Thumbs up & subscribed. What does the "S" category mean? GOD, Guns & Gumbo

@chrisbateman54 Год назад

Love this content

@teakey 10 месяцев назад

I’m going to put this video into the C category.

@kellyngo7549 Год назад

Switched from Crbn to 6.0. Clear difference and way better

@CyberSonic157 Год назад

In what way is it better?

@kylepickleball Год назад

Hey Chris, are your ratings based on the product line or do you factor in variables such as warranty and return policies, customer support, etc?

@PickleballStudio Год назад

In this specific video, return policies aren’t factored. Warranties can definitely gain some points, but the primary focus for me in these is performance and cost. Warranty+CS+return policy as the primary would be a totally different result

@kylepickleball Год назад

@@PickleballStudio thanks for the clarification. For me as a player I also factor in warranty, return policy, and customer support. With that in mind I'd drop Vatic to an A at best given their weak 90 day warranty and worthless return policy (you can only return it if it's still new and in the original packaging). Gruvn also has a 90 day warranty so that would drop them as well. I'd still keep Ronbus at S but dock some points for the return policy. Their 6 month warranty is standard but given the durability testing they put their paddles through it brings additional peace of mind. I've found their customer support to be excellent, always heard back from Dong and/or Lisa when reaching them. I'd keep Pickleball Apes at A with a strong leaning towards S but it's too early to see how the Pro Line Energy plays out. They definitely get props for a true no-risk 30 day return policy and a 1-year warranty. I've contacted Waiman several times at Pickleball Apes and like Ronbus I get a prompt response.

@danmorton8564 Год назад

Anyone heard of any delamination issues with the Ronbus pulsar paddles?

@DonaldJamesParker Год назад

I'm curious as to what you would think of the Third Shot Drop paddle at $325.

@PickleballStudio Год назад

Haven't seen them. Hard to imagine it's worth it though.

@pineappleexpress827 Год назад

Where do the new Babolat paddles rank?

@cww180 Год назад

Are you recommending the VP Prizm or VP Prizm Flash?

@douglasmurdoch7247 Год назад

Do you mean the Prism V7 or the Prism Flash? Most people prefer the Prism Flash. The Prism V7 is even heavier than the V7, with a swingweight of 128.

@izayahedmonds6839 Год назад

PIckleball studio > The dink pickleball

@AMurderOfLobs Год назад

17:50 A paddle with a 7" long handle having a low swing weight should not be a surprise at all. The face is larger and thus heavier than the handle, so that longer handle eats away from the face length and thus eats away from the swing weight. Pretty straightforward.

@goldenchildtheater Год назад

Yea. More weight at the bottom makes the head feel lighter right?

@PickleballStudio Год назад

I was basing this off elongated vs standard shaped paddles where more often than not the longer handle also meant a higher swing weight. Your reasoning makes perfect sense.

@AMurderOfLobs Год назад

@@goldenchildtheater The more sound way to phrase it would be "less weight at the top makes the head feel lighter". I know what you meant, but it's important to note that you can never decrease the swing weight by adding weight anywhere on a paddle (i.e. swing weight can only increase unless material is removed).

@jacksonlyman830 Год назад

Where would you put the Holbrook at?

@ryrysinger Год назад

Agree with Spartus gong into A and probably even S in a cpl years.

@ryrysinger Год назад

That Ballista is impressive so far.

@btreese7 Год назад

When you mention CRBN paddles breaking...are you talking about delamination or actually breaking?

@PickleballStudio Год назад

Delamination. Only the X line of paddles.

@btreese7 Год назад

@@PickleballStudio Yeah, my 2x did after 5 months, but CRBN had a replacement in my hands in 3 days after I filed my claim.

@fabriciosilvera6730 Год назад

Legacy Pro pedal by itself is okay but support team is horrible. I emailed them for two diferent reasons and never heard from them. It has been like 3 months now. Do not recommend

@greenargon921 Год назад

I bought 2 Legacy Pro recently. One has already delaminated. Lousy odds..if you asked me. To add on , the business owner has terrible service support...Try dealing with him if you have any delivery issues....

@fabriciosilvera6730 Год назад

@@greenargon921 That's unfortunate. Mine is still holding strong, bought 3 months ago, so I guess it depends on the batch

@kylepickleball Год назад

I've seen multiple comments from Six Zero players that the 2022 DBD plays noticeably different from the new batch which is now softer. @Chris, have you heard of this?

@PickleballStudio Год назад

Yeah, I’ve been hearing that. It seems to happen to a lot of the thermos. My rainbow is a bit more poppy than my standard.

@WisdomInsightReality Год назад

@pickleball studio From a business owners perspective, one friend, or for that matter word of mouth, is hardly a scientific methodology for classifying or labeling Legacy Pro paddles in such a negative light. Just out of curiosity, when did you last speak to the owner of Legacy, giving him the chance to respond to your "hearsay/rumour/word of mouth" claims. I'm not sure you understand that entrepeneurs put their heart, passion, soul, money, savings and homes on the line to help uplift, expand and positively contribute to the pickleball community.

@ryanterracino Год назад

Interested in what Chris means by "break" on CRBN. I've tried about 10 different paddles and have constantly gone back to my CRBN (5 months no breaking). Slightly reduced spin and others but I just can pick it up and control without issues. If mine is "broken" then so be it lol

@matthewandkristenturvin9049 Год назад

He is referring to delamination or "core-ruption" as Will calls it. The x series have a well earned reputation for breaking in this way.

@webstermiller7765 Год назад

It's the X series that keeps have delam/core-crush issues. A friend went through 3-4 before he just finally gave up on them.

@ryanterracino Год назад

@@matthewandkristenturvin9049 I figured it was something along those lines, but "breaking" is a vague term (could be handle, core, edge, etc). I've had my 1x with no issues but always store it in optimal conditions so always interesting to hear others breaking.

@ryanterracino Год назад

@@webstermiller7765 Where do you and your friend live/play? I've had the 1X forever and have had zero issues and I play with plenty of bangers and hit pretty hard myself (unless I just happened to get a decent batch)

@webstermiller7765 Год назад

@@ryanterracino Dallas, TX and this was in the late Spring so it wasn't like the temps were extremely low or high. They were all the 1X and I wouldn't classify my friend as a banger at all. While he can hit as hard as anyone, he generally plays more of a control game.

@DinksOver9000 Год назад

I like the list but I feel like Legacy is getting a bit of a bad rep here. I know you’ve seen a lot of delams but around where I am there aren’t any. And I’m on your discord and I rarely really hear anything about that there either. I think they should be an A until some of their new stuff comes out! Also, in all your talks with various companies do you know what the next ‘thing’ is? Thermoformed paddles took the world by storm it seemed like and I wonder what the next industry disruption will be and when we can expect it

@PickleballStudio Год назад

haha even if I knew, I wouldn't be able to say anything publicly ;) Glad to hear your experience has been different. It just seems to be a very mixed bag of experiences. The guy I know who has broken 3 or so of them isn't that hard of a hitter, so it's crazy to me how fast he's breaking them.

@WisdomInsightReality Год назад

@pickleball studio Respectfully, from a business owners perspective, one friend, or for that matter word of mouth, is hardly a scientific methodology/reason for classifying or labeling Legacy Pro paddles in such a negative light. Just out of curiosity, when did you last speak to the owner of Legacy, giving him the chance to respond to your "hearsay/rumour/word of mouth" claims. I'm not sure you understand that entrepeneurs put their heart, passion, soul, money, savings and homes on the line to help uplift, expand and positively contribute to the pickleball community. Words matter, and words should not be based on hearsay and rumours.

@DinksOver9000 Год назад

@@PickleballStudio yeah I figure there is variation. I wonder if there are more delams during summer or winter due to people leaving their paddles in their car or playing in extreme temps. Have you heard of any swells in delams or anything like that?

@greenargon921 Год назад

@douglasmurdoch7247 Год назад

@@WisdomInsightReality What hearsay and rumors though? He's not hearing this through the grapevine, he actually knows people where this is the case. You're acting like he's making it up.

@evanballard6549 Год назад

THAT CAMERA QUALITY 🥵

@kendahomie Год назад

Paddletek new tempest v3 is out Chris. So it looks like you’ll have to stop complaining about a paddle that will actually last longer than 3 months

@matthewandkristenturvin9049 Год назад

Commenting after watching for 30 seconds. The Adidias paddle in the background is cracking me up! Please tell me that was intentional

@PickleballStudio Год назад

haha that's been in the back of my last few videos (I think) or at a bare minimum, I've had it on my shelf for a week or two. I just put paddles back there that I think will show up on camera. 😂

@sweetfancymoses2942 Год назад

Pretty sad that Prolite, the og’s of the modern paddle, don’t even get a mention. You’re breaking Yoda’s heart. IYKYK

@lordspice Год назад

why does legacy have the same logo as linkin park

@ricardojsbrito Год назад

You need to try Zcebra paddles

@boosacker Год назад

Love my vatic prism v7, as of today though the handle broke off after one month of use. /:

@PickleballStudio Год назад

:O just from playing?

@boosacker Год назад

Yep just from playing.

@PickleballStudio Год назад

Dang, that's wild! First I've heard of that happening. Appreciate the heads up.

@kevincook6341 Год назад

Have you seen a new company called Professor Pickleball? Just got one and it’s worth a look,,

@brentisverycool Год назад

I don’t understand why you are knocking the Filth for too high of a SW, but you are talking up the VP Prism which has a higher SW

@PickleballStudio Год назад

I like the Prism. Not the V7. Completely different SW

@brentisverycool Год назад

@@PickleballStudio the prism flash?

@IceDragon716 Год назад

Omg is it cyotheking?

@josharam9004 10 месяцев назад

The Diadem rating is a crime. The 18k edge is the highest spin in the market.

@DrDinks-po8jr Год назад

We got to drop Paddletek down to F after the "new" paddle drop. Lmao that stuff is just embarrassing to drop just minimal gen 1 carbon paddles after nothing new for probably seven years or so. Also, my hot take is that if these carbon tempest reign pros are or have been approved, who's to say that the paddletek pros currently and past haven't been using them over some time.....hmmm paddlegate potentially?

@fartfalcon Год назад

Im guessing the shillkirk payment didnt arrive in time. I was expecting S tier!

@douglasmurdoch7247 Год назад

Are you thinking of Will? Does Chris even have anything to do with Selkirk?

@joshuathegreat8533 Год назад

PaddleTek released there new paddles

@douglasmurdoch7247 Год назад

their*

@ruizclan270 Год назад

Are you going to be releasing a review for the new Paddletek Paddle with "ICED Carbon Fiber"? It's supposed to be released tomorrow, Aug 10th!

@PickleballStudio Год назад

ha yeah, I recorded this last week before the announcement. I'll see if I can get my hands on them.

@marmotdude Год назад

what does iced carbon fiber mean?

@matthewandkristenturvin9049 Год назад

@@marmotdude Sounds like marketing buzzwords to me tbh.

@mortythrasher736 Год назад

You are rating Selkirk labs, not Selkirk or even Selkirk as a whole. Selkirk is easily the highest tier. I just replaced my amped invikta for free because of a loose edge guard after two years of use. Selkirk has the most range of paddles and the highest degree of innovation. Also once you buy a selkirk, you’ll never have to buy another paddle again.

@douglasmurdoch7247 Год назад

"once you buy a selkirk, you’ll never have to buy another paddle again." That's not true. People who think that are abusing the warranty. The warranty is for manufacturer's defect, and doesn't cover wear and tear through normal use. After a few years, the paddle will have no spin left at all. Also Selkirk paddles are low spin to begin with. They're wildly overpriced. They're worse paddles than Ronbus, SixZero and Vatic Pro. So no, they definitely don't belong in S tier.