In case you didn’t know mama McCall was in TVD, she was in season one while she was jogging and Logan Fell killed her. Also Danny was in The Originals as Josh’s boyfriend for a few episodes and you already know about Mama Martin aka Mama Lockwolf. Also Issac was Kol for a few seasons in TO, and guidance counselor played Emily Bennett in TVD. Oh and father Kinernan was in that as well. Dang I kept having to re-edit because I kept remembering characters
For awhile there was a joke in the fandom that the CW kept stealing former Teen Wolf actors. Green Arrow got Jackson, Supergirl (and later Superman & Lois) got Derek and as you mentioned Reign got Cora. I don’t remember if it was CW but Erica’s actress was supposed to star in a urban fantasy version of Alice in Wonderland as a detective or something but nothing ever came about it.
As much as I love Teen Wolf, the one criticism I always have is that they tended to drop the ball with characters. Alison's storyline ending worked, Jackson leaving (though it was so abrupt) worked. But suddenly kicking off Isaac, Kira (the Yakamura's in general), Hayden, and Cora felt weird (I know it's because she left the show). Plus the people they kept in the show that they didn't know what to do with had great potential. I'm talking Aiden and Ethan, Malia, Liam, all the chimeras in general, Braeden, Erica, Boyd, Brett, and Parrish. Obviously they did do some stuff with these ones, but they could have done so much more. Anyway my Mount Rushmore GOAT is Stiles (obviously), Lydia (great progression), Duecalian (terrifyingly cool every time he was on screen), and Papa Stilinksi (with Mama McCall basically even with him, love them both)
The thing is that Allison is the official female main character but for me it has always been Lydia. No hate to Allison I love her but Lydia has a more interesting storyline and that’s why I see her as the female main character since season 1.
Nah cause if Allison had stayed on the show, she definitely would’ve stuck as the main character and had more storylines, I love Lydia a lot but most of her screentime came from Allison leaving
@@stefansalvatore3564 Okay in season 1 it was probably Allison but even in season 2 Lydia was the main for me. The whole Kanima storyline made Lydia to a really important character bc we didn’t know if she was the kanima or not. But Allison in season 2 is my least favorite. I don‘t like her in season 2 bc of the storyline with Kate and Gerard. And also in season 3 it‘s Lydia for me. Finding out that she‘s a banshee, her relationship with Stiles, her character development from a mean girl to a really sweet and selfless girl… just her whole character is more interesting and important than Allison’s in my opinion. And again I LOVE Allison (in s1&3) but I don’t see her as the main character.
@@jenfcheck Yeah ofc they would‘ve added more interesting stuff to Allison’s storyline if she had stayed but I don‘t think Lydia’s screentime came from Allison leaving. She already had much screentime in season 2 & 3… the Kanima storyline and also her banshee reveal made her to an important character and that has nothing to do with Allison.
The secret circle had Shelly henning ( malia TW) Phoebe Tonkin (Hayley TVDU) and Dylan Obriens ex girlfriend in a tv show, they were the main characters, you lost definitely have to watch it🖤
I think Scott is the victim of bad writing sometimes. That scene where he condemned Stiles for killing someone seemed so out of character to me and I heard somewhere that it was because the writers wanted to separate the characters and decided to turn Scott on Stiles in to do it. Like they couldn’t think of a better way to do it. It would have worked better if they’d worked up to it, but as it stands, it’s Scott believing someone he barely knows over Stiles, who has been his best friend nearly all his life. They rushed it way too much. That was a bit of awful writing that turned a lot of people off Scott’s character. I get it but I mostly blame the writing for that.
Great rating, even though I'm kind of surprised that you put Theo so low. I think he is an amazing character. He is a piece of shit, but that's the point, he was an amazing villain. The way he manipulated everybody was incredible. And he achieved a lot of things no other villain could have. He killed Scott (Even though he came back) and more importantly he managed to split Scott and Stiles apart. I also really loved his sort of redemption arc through season 6 with Liam, because they did it really great to show that gradual change. Even though he says he is only helping Liam for his own benefit, you can slowly see him start to care, and that arc was kind of my highlight for the whole final season.
The Goats of the show - Stiles, Scott and Lydia are perfect. I absolutely loved seeing lydia change throughout the season, seeing her blossom into her character and seeing how she uses her brain to figure out literally everything with Stiles. It was beautiful seeing her going "natural" throughout the seasons as well, from the popular kid, all dressy and fancy to her loosening up, using her intelligence and becoming natural was amazing. It's such a shame that we didn't get more Stiles and Lydia action after they became a couple, i feel like we built up 5 seasons just for that to not really go anywhere especially since they did them so dirty in the Teen Wolf Movie.. Theo was an amazing villain, the way he used psychological warfare to get in everyone's minds and go against each other and Dylan O'Brien's acting for VoidStiles still has me shook, especially when all stiles does is throw himself in danger even though he's human. I saw your reaction videos to the entire show and made me want to watch it all again!
“You either die in a wishing well or you live long enough to become a decent character I guess” LMFAOOOOO 😂😂😂 Klaus Mikaelson you will always be famous
I love LOVE SCOTT MCCALL!! He's so precious and I think he's the best main character I've ever seen in any shows tbh! (Okay Hope Mikaelson is also a really good main character and she's kinda like Scott in Legacies but that is a another story) He's beautiful and he always has a plan in the end. Some TW fans always say "he's not a good Alpha, he can't kill people blah blah blah…" but they forget that Scott is a True Alpha, he has a good heart and he's a good leader. I would be in his pack because I trust him! Scott's best moments when he shows his true alpha and it's also really hot, so I agree with you on that!😅Also Scott is the hottest girl! Btw I love that Scott is like a younger brother to you!🥺 I need a Scott & Stiles in my life!❤️ I love Stiles! I love Lydia! I love Isaac and I think we all missed him dearly! Jackson was a good villain as a Kanima! Season 1 - 3 just hits different to me then the other seasons! My top 4 (5) favorite characters: 1. Stiles & Scott (They both have my heart!) 2. Lydia (she's a Queen!) 3. Isaac (I just love this man!) 4. Derek (he's a great character!) My favorite ships: 1. Stydia 2. Scallison/Scira 3. Layden
@@JerBearReacts Yes exactly for no reason. I always loved to see your reactions to Isaac they were the best. I hope you'll react to a Isaac Lahey video one day. I need Isaac in the Teen Wolf movie but I don't think he's gonna be in it🥺
Something I feel that marks a great show is how difficut it can be to mark the GOAT personalities.. Stiles is an obvious choice here, duh😅. But besides him I feel that Scott and Mama Mcall are great aditions. I, personally, would have struggled between Mama Mcall and Papa Stillinski.. Also Papa Argent could have been put up there... Deucalion would have been a good choice as well, Parrish too... With Parrish not so much because of the Hellhound storyline, but his development overall.. But like I said: the marking of a great show is how difficult it is to actually choose favorite characters. Your list is great, because yeah, obviously Stiles is incredible! And yes, Scott is an amazing character and of course the main character...Lydia is phenomenal! Her development is absolutely incredible! And yes, mama Mcall as aunt May would be insane! She has that 'mother to everyone'- vibe about her, and that makes her incredible
My favorite characters: 1. STILES 2. Lydia 3. Scott 4. Malia 5. Coach or Melissa I can‘t choose I agree with most of the things you said, but for me Malia & Theo are definitely higher. And the secret circle is a show with Shelley Hennig (Malia), Phoebe Tonkin (Hayley) and Britt Robertson (Dylan O‘Briens ex girlfriend) as the main characters.
@@Qtlika yeah that‘s true, her storyline was really bad after season 4. I loved her storyline in season 3 & 4 but later… She’s still one of my fav characters but I agree with you that she‘s a bit overrated.
I honestly thought it would be either Finstock or Kira in MR GOAT. Melissa didn’t really surprise me because I know how much you like her, but Lydia did.
I would have liked to see Alison and Scott back together in the end, so I wish they had sent her away instead of killing her, but I can see why she was drawn to Isaac and why Scott was drawn to Kira. All Alison wanted was to be strong and not depend on anyone. Scott didn't treat her like an equal because she was human. Isaac was fine with following her lead and letting her set the pace. Scott was drawn to Kira because she never looked at him like he was a monster. She was intrigued and wanted to see what he looked like as a wolf. Plus she was supernatural as well so he wasn't as worried about her getting hurt.
I really love that you actually love Scott! I love Scott, him with Stiles are my favourites! The show would never work without either of them. I just see Scott get so much hate even till this day he gets hate and it's so weird. He didn't do anything wrong really. The fight with Stiles was as you said, a misunderstanding and they were both being manipulated. What i hate the most tho is people pitting Stiles and Scott against each other. It literally makes no sense, at least not to the extreme that some people take it too. I love love love Stiles but this was not his story, this was Scott's story and yes he was a really big part of his story. People love to say that Stiles is the main character just because he was a good character but that will never be true. It's the same thing with TVD, in that show it was Stefan's story but because people love Damon and that awful ship they can't accept that it was always Stefan's story. The show starts with him saying "this is my story"!! Tyler might not be as good of an actor as Dylan but i do believe that he could be on the same level if he wanted to and had the opportunity too. We do see Tyler grow a lot as an actor! For me it seemed like the writers got too obsessed with Stiles that they put Scott to the side sometimes instead of giving Scott just as much development as Stiles. The fact that Tyler was having to deal with his mom's sickness and her dying throughout Teen Wolf but still being able to do so good is crazy to me. People don't give him enough credit for it either. In the end Teen Wolf could have been really good but the writers were not good enough and made awful choices. They might have had some good ideas but the follow through was never good. This is why i have no faith in the movie being good specially after what they did to Kira/Arden. Like even if by some miracle we get Dylan back as Stiles, i would never watch the movie just because of the racism that was shown towards Kira and Arden. Maybe i would watch some scenes with Scott and Stiles if that ever happened. Either way, i loved watching the show with you! I won't be staying for the 100 because i despise that show ;) but i will be back when ur done with it! haha My favourites were obviously Scott and Stiles but the other two were Lydia and Kira :) I am editing to say: THEO WILL ALWAYS BE TRASH!!! Bye now :))
I do be confused about that death count. Don't have to think about it: Scott-Stiles GOATs + Lydia The 4th spot definitely goes to one of the Guardians but I can't choose between Papa Stilinski and Mama McCall. Overall, I agree with your tier list, nicely done Jer. PS: RIP Boyd he deserved better. I would put him in B just for that.
I love that you constantly mistake Theo and Liam , or just mix their names like you did at 19:27 Idk If you're doing it on purpose or not, but either way I love it
hey just random suggestion can you make a ranking of GOT characters. I just wanna see your opinion on the characters and how much yours differ from me cuz you talk about them in you GOT reaction videos. and who was that person in the chat going wild when he saw the cast
MR. GOAT Stiles (obviously), Scott (of course), Lydia (the growth!)… the 4th for me is difficult could be sheriff, Derek, Melissa… love Isaac but no, same with Bobby and Chris. Even derek. It really is a toss up for mama McCall and papa Stilinski… I refuse to choose between them. I love them both so much!
So Stiles dad & Scott's mom...consider that she knew his wife. He knew her husband. They were probably each other's best friends when they needed it through the years which made it too weird. You don't ruin your relationship when your son's are so close they're practically brothers. It could hurt your kid.
So, I apologize if this is the wrong vid to ask on, but do you have any plans on watching a new show? If so, I'd love to recommend the magicians. I saw you react to a few edit videos, and I think you'd enjoy the actual show itself. There's truly no other show like it and the characters are all amazing in their own ways.
S tier was the only good tier imo you just got to take Scott and put him in a and we good and the nazi and beast should be in at least b imo because there the most interesting because the nazi is a were lion and Sebastian is the most badass character in the show I forgot the name of the Hale that died in the forest but she's the only reason that the show was but yea
18:00 the pause for malia I completely agree😂😂😂😂😂 I hated her first time watching the show.. like genuinely hated the character, but rewatching with you I actually tolerated and liked her personality but like you said, she was literally pointless to the show like they were tryna fill character spaces up that had left
I love all the characters so no one is necessarily low on this list but Before watching my mini list of the main characters in order: 1. Allison 2. Isaac 3. Lydia 4. Derek 5. Stiles, Kira 6. Malia 7. Scott 8. The parents.. I like them just didn’t care for them 9. Liam and his pack.. also like them, just felt boring to watch sometimes
And she had some of the best character development on this show whilst Peter remained…Peter and malia was a great fighter and good but they’d didn’t give her a proper storyline so yeah
there is nothing, she is more famous for being very sweet and fantastic, as tvd nina left the series but her female characters remained the most famous
I just wish they explored Theo's character a bit more. He is such a great plot asset! Like we know nothing about his time with the doctors, honestly if he became a big bad villain of 5th season, it would have made it so much better because they really messed up his character in the end. They could have gotten a great villain out of him but he just became another power hungry psychopath. Like you are showing a person who is incredibly smart and charismatic, someone who could break apart a pack with that little effort when worse people have failed, and then, instead of exploring his trauma and giving him depth you just made him another 2d villain, like honestly. Okay, fine. If not villain but maybe just an anti hero in 5th season? Let him switch places in middle of the season. That still would have given him more depth than what we got. My sister and I were completely in love with the season because it fleshed out our MCs, and also gave the SCs so much good story and then it all went up in flames as we neared the season finale. And his "redemption Arc" in season 6th (As much as I loved his moments with Liam #Thiam) was underwhelming. And I hate what they did to Hayden. Her entire character arc depends on Liam. They just tried to make another Scallison and it did not work. Allison had her character arc without Scott and Scott had his character arc without Allison. That is why those two worked so well. But Hayden was just there for Liam. Isaac, Cora, Kira, Braedan etc etc....There all storylines were scrapped so bad it hurts. Parrish was another character who got his ass handed to him like smh. Even Monroe had great potential but nooooooo, we just want 2d villains with no character. Kate was a nuisance, Gerard was just well, Gerard. I liked the Kanima, nogitsune, Peter and the Alpha pack. But other than that, all the villains were 2d. The doctors were actually so scary but then again they were left incomplete.... But the character they did flesh out turned out amazing. Stiles, Lydia, Malia, Derek, Scott... they all had their own personality and worked very well. Just wish they spend a bit more time on the other ones too.... :/ Btw, great list. A bit different than my own but none the less, I like your reasoning.
