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It’s sad that most of the upper tier activities barring olympiads are all filled with nepotism/elitism. For example, a lot of ISEF projects are faked and actually created using connections etc., (also some regions are unfairly disadvantaged, and regions that are more wealthy are able to qualify more individuals) getting real company internships can be hard but someone with connections can get one quite easily, starting a nonprofit as a high schooler is fine but often expensive and most of them are actually harmful to society overall as they usually replicate an existing organization or die out after the student graduates high school. Most people who get into the S tier schools don’t have S tier activities. Also musical instrument as C tier? Making all-state, national youth orchestras, etc. are all S/A tier in my eyes… (especially since you put varsity sports as B tier lol) This is just my experience so far!
Great points, especially about the nepotism. A lot of these activities are restricted by wealth caps and resources, making the system unfair. You're spot on about ISEF, but that's how the system is unfortunately. Regarding musical instruments, I classified that activity based on how most students take it - high school band, orchestra, etc. And even if the school team makes it to nationals, you're one pawn in a large team, so it's less impactful. Soloing in Carnegie Hall is another story.
@@thecollegetreehousei mean if you solo in Carnegie hall then you're pursuing music for sure. if you say audition and make regionals or join a non profit would it make enough of a difference for B list?
1. did someone drop water on your head? 2. Nonprofit organizations often face bigger challenges and fail more than normal businesses, even when managed by experienced people. Expecting a high school student to create and run a nonprofit can be unrealistic, unless they are rich, as they will have little to no impact. This is like starting an app with no downloads. They look awful on college apps.
You’re off the mark on Boy Scouts, especially if you make Eagle Scout; only 1/10 of the people in BSA ever make it to that rank. And the service project combined with leadership is why a lot of people at West Point, Naval Academy, and USAFA are Eagle Scouts.
The fact that you put Cornell and Dartmouth in a lower tier than Harvard, Stanford, and MIT, and offered no segue category between SUNY/OSU and community colleges undermines the value of your insights.
I've been playing music my entire life. Played piano for 14 years, clarinet for 8. First chair in my band, I play in a youth symphony, my cities school of the arts, and my towns adult aged community band. Is this good? I don't know
Yes, if you can tell a good story about it - I was in a youth orchestra and honestly wasn't the best musician, but I was able to talk about the impact of my experience in an essay
I got a question are these extracurriculars good if the following Boy Scouts. Eagle at 14 with 70 merit badges and counting, along with brotherhood in the away, and leading a bunch of stuff, and very active in it on a sectional level. I have participated in two national advents, MMUN I did it for three years and on my third year I made a resolution that was good enough to get the UN to notice and add parts of it 4h Active in my club Chess Club President of our chess club at school Sports I do JV cross country where I am at Captain, along with varsity soccer and varsity track and field Theater I am in Theater, and I’m part of the IBS CSF I am a CSF junior member and I’ve qualified all semesters. I have a 3.8. I have others mainly political ones, but I don’t wanna start a debate here. I know a lot of them are c tear on paper. But especially for the scouting and MMUN one I am active on a national level, and I have proposed stuff that changed the world. On the scouting part, I’ve met people from around the world as well as served as a sectional secretary, for my area, along with representing our lodge, and our troop on a national level
Winning best delegate at a bigger conference at Harvard or UChicago is around A material, but just traveling to compete isn't worth much unless you perform well
my country is a failed society with nothing going for it in any department. I plan on creating a U21 football league for the whole city (largest in the country), it being th first of its kind and allat with sponsors. would it be a good extra curricular
Hello! I have been studying Japanese for 4 years, and passed the Japanese Language Proficiency Test N1, which is the hardest recognized exam for Japanese by the government. Where would you rank that? I personally would go with C tier. What about RU-vid channels too?
Well I am not an expert but I would say learning Japanese is really impressive. However It is even more impressive if you start a Japanese club in your school or institutiide
Hi. If you are a member of FBLA and on your sophomore year with a great team of seniors and win at nationals. Do you even need to join FBLA junior year with a weaker team composed of freshmen and compete again or should you just move on to other activities?
How is dual enrollment so low? Are you talking about getting into a top college with an educational degree? Like if your doing stem your gonna need some hard classes. Real analysis, linear algebra, abstract algebra, calc three, differential equations. You cant really just peak with BC
So I play a sport called cricket (I am from the UK, where it is the second biggest sport). In cricket, professional teams recruit players from a young age to represent their sides. A similar comparison is in football (or soccer in us), where academies recruit players to represent them at a young age. Slight issue, cricket is not that big in the US and you can't get recruited as a student athlete. If I put in my application that I represented a professional cricket academy in a national competition, would it still be an A tier extracurricular?
What about playing a sport that not many people play, in my case cricket. I travel around USA participating in many tournaments. I also am running a summer camp for younger kids teaching cricket.
You said clubs doesnt matter but what if it is the literally first club of the school and I am the founder? Our club is the first club of our school and it organises festivals, theatres and many more and I am leading all of this. Isnt this important?
Generic clubs with no impact don't matter. If it's the first club of the school, that probably took much more work + has a unique story behind it. I'd definitely bump that up a few tiers.
@@mehmettascioglu1952 I think youre Turkish too and know the situation here. Im from Adana and there is like mostly 10 school clubs in the whole city. I am in a science high school and the students never did anything except solving tests their whole lives. Also the teachers dont take literally no responsibility since its a public school. I dont even know how many teacher hate me for these clubs, it really took more work
Depends on your proficiency and the diversity - if you're learning Spanish in school, it's likely low, but if you know a language that maybe a couple dozen people in the world know and you can tell a story, it can be invaluable.
