Well he would’ve won it in 2016 if he didn’t choke but I believe he should’ve won it over Iggy. He really only had 3 opportunities to win it because he lost 2 of the 5 he has been to.
@@2kmichaeljordan438 Bron averaged 35-13-9 with his second best player being dellavadova and got 4 votes for fmvp Steph got none, proving they had to find someone else on the team to give it to I think he would've definitely got it if it went 7 games
@@dylanrademacher4350 so what lebron only shot 39% put the context on curry didn't get the fmvp just because of the 2 games that dellavedova was pestering him
Awesome list. I'm not even a Cavs fan and that 2016 finals was the greatest pro sports series I've ever seen. People will truly miss LeBron when he finally retires. He's given us so many amazing moments.
KD’s 2017 should’ve been ranked higher. That 2017 Cavs team is one of the best offensive teams of all time and probably the second or third best team Lebron played on.
No, just no. The Cavs were a bad defensive team that year that had nobody that could match up with him well, especially since it was absolutely impossible to double team him thanks to playing with Steph & Klay. The only player on the Cavs who could have a chance at reasonably guarding KD would have been LeBron, but that is unfeasible because he was the only facilitator on offense. You can't run your main offensive player into the ground on defense.
@@randumo24 Kyrie averaged 29 ppg on 49/41/90 in that series. Yes the Cavs were better off with the ball in Bron’s hands, but he definitely could’ve guarded KD and the Cavs would’ve still had a good option on offense.
Vinicius Diniz debatable. But it was kobe's most difficult and sweetest win ever. Where Degree of difficulty comes in play. Kd with the warriors was an overkill, too easy.
Kyle Justin As a Celtics fan who was heartbroken in that finals, I can agree that it was a sweet victory for Kobe and it’s not like he played had at all, but statistically KD just shits on that finals, hard to overlook, especially if you were an NBA fan around back then, a lot of people were saying Pau should’ve won that finals mvp and Kobe was definitely being really selfish and shooting the lakers out of the game a lot of the time, also can’t overlook that he was carrying their offense for half the game too.
illmortalmusic kd never faced and defeated a big three team. 2012 okc lost to miami, 2016 blew a 3-1 lead to 73 win warriors. It's just the simple fact that kd has yet to prove he won it convincingly and over a great team. Kobe and lebron did it. Dirk did. Kd has the luxury of having the best team or joining the best team.
@@voodoodiecast Bro come on the Miami big 3 and the Warriors big 3 were both better than the Celts and if the Commissioner suspended Dray in game after he kicked Steve Adams in the nuts KD would have won also
@@voodoodiecast Good Gosh. The Warriors were not a big three in 2015-2016. The Cavs team he beat in 2016-2017 was a big three. He did not join the best team, and finally, Steph and company had far more the luxury that KD had.
You can’t tell me that you ever thought you were gonna vote someone other than Kawhi as FMVP in 2019. No one else was consistently scoring more than 15, Siakam was only scoring on cherrypicks and backdoor cuts.
Dirk took down a fully healthy Miami superteam with role players he’s number one in my eyes. Or put 2016 confidence at number 1 they were the true mvp🤣
@@toptier6132 The game is about the whole team. The 2016 Warriors were an insanely deep team. Love did not play well enough to warrant being in that discussion, and both he & Kyrie were certainly negatives on defense on top of it. The whole team matters, and outside of those players in 2011, Dallas was far superior.
Dom. You are the only basketball RU-vidr with consistent common sense. I like a funky diabetic and few others. But you stand out above the rest. Especially the terrible ones like bsolz and mike korzemba. Even if I don’t agree with Dom, which is almost always do, I can respect what he’s saying cuz it makes sense. There are Not enough guys are like that.
I can see your reasoning. But Kawhi 2019 that low??? Literally that series Kawhi came alive whenever raps had nothing going. That crazy 2 min period in game 5 where he almost single handedly won the series. That GSW team without KD did not lose a game to Houston and Portland. And were expected to beat the raps in 6. I feel like theres a lot bias against Kawhi here
kk they got banged out in the playoffs and the finals Demarcus cousins wasn’t healthy kd came back had 15 pts leading golden state on a blowout against the raptors he went down Klay went down. No one expected the warriors to win without kd the raptors was were better golden state only really had steph no kd no Klay man I wish we would’ve got to see them play healthy
OFFICIAL Jdukes bruh, they only had Kawhi. How would people expect them to win without kd if they had steph and klay. Without klay and kd then no duh Kawhi is going to win
Graphics on this with all their stats and stuff is beautiful. That’s probably a little time consuming but it’s a great touch to these lists. Let’s me keep track a lot easier
The one issue I have with the rankings is that you ranked KD lower because he was on a great team and averaged absurd numbers, but then in the NBA regular season MVP rankings you rank Lebron higher for his numbers dropping because he was in a team with other all-stars as well. Your video though so rank how you want haha
They are quite different situations though. Curry & Klay are shooters and quite comfortable off the ball. Wade was an on ball guy and took plays away from LeBron. The fits were much different.
@@randumo24 my issue with that is his stats were arguably better before he joined the warriors then when he was with them apart from efficiency. He had more people to share the pie with and yet he still did ridiculous, he shot less and shot better. Isn’t that the same thing?
Dom, your logic on KD doesn't really make any sense. There have been plenty of dominant performances in the Finals with uneven teams. I'm sure if you took off Worthy and put in KD on those Lakers teams, his numbers would've been astronomical. However, we look at KDs FMVP and Worthy's like night and day. It doesn't make any sense, we only punish players for having good teammates when they joined them in FA. Not when they are drafted
@@AndyZach yeah the same with LeBron on Miami...that team was always the favorite to win the championship despite them losing to the Mavs and Spurs. What's worst is that after the Heat lost to Spurs... everyone wanted Melo to join LBJ, Wade and Bosh before LBJ created another superteam in Cleveland
You discrediting KD only using the east was weak argument against KD but it doesn’t matter when it used to credit lebron If the east wasn’t weak lebron wouldn’t even make the finals obviously I gotta disagree with the whole list. 2019 - Kawhi 2018 - KD 2017 - KD 2016 - Refs 2015 - Steph 2014 - Kawhi 2013 - Lebron 2012 - KD 2011 - Dirk 2010 - Kobe
Damn bruh who hurt you? Lebron's Cavs beat the strongest team in the west and maybe the greatest team of all time. OKC which was 3rd in the west 55-27 while the Cavs who were number 1 in the east were 57-25 in which the Cavs beat OKC. He definitely was gonna make the finals whether it was the east or west. And the Draymond Green excuse is so dumb bro don't even try to start that
Jshon Smith cav players from that team said bron told them w confidence that they was gon make a comeback & win..did he feel like same confidence in 2017 when they were down 3-1? hell no kyrie was only reason they won one game.
Woah. 2019 Kawhi is by no means a top 3 Finals MVP. But this guy wasn't 100% all year and still managed to do it against a weaker (but still deadly) Warriors. I rank him at least top 6 Just an opinion.
Jc_ 43 Um no. Did you watch the series? Kawhi wasn’t the best player on his team every game. The Warriors were very hobbled by injuries and the Raptors still barely won.
@@Jay-dn2pg Kawhi was the best player on that team by way of consistency. 28.5 ppg when no one else even routinely cracked 20 ppg sounds like finals MVP to me. The roleplayers and tier 2 stars did their thing, but you're deluding yourself if you think Kawhi wasn't the clear cut Finals MVP.
@@GlitchTheLitch Um Siakim averaged 19.8 pts per game throughout the series and outside of Kawhi, 5 other players averaged over 10 points in that series which is crazy. And with that supporting cast, Kawhi only shot 43% from the field. Not once did I say he wasn't the Finals MVP so I don't know why you're bringing that up. Refer to the original post and you'd know that my argument is that Kawhi didn't have a top 3 Finals performance in the 2010's. There's a lot of fake Kawhi bandwagons coming out of nowhere over hyping what he did.
Chaitu. Petluri You guys overhype him in the finals. No doubt he played great but stop, had the Warriors been healthy it wouldn’t of been close. Injuries are part of the game, yes but he got very lucky KD, Klay, Steph, Looney, and Iggy were all injured heavily or had a minor injury. The Warriors had no chance to win the series once Klay went down for basically 2 games and KD played like 11 minutes. Like i said Kawhi played great and i’m not discrediting that, but it was so easy for him to win that finals and put up great stats when half of the other team was injured the whole series.
Jay Money what’s so good is he took a team notorious for choking with a 32 year old Kyle Lowry as his only all star teammate through a loaded east and won them a chip. And before you make the “injury” remark to discredit his performance, keep in mind the 2019 warriors without KD were more or less to the 73-9 warriors that Lebron beat back in 2016 in terms of skill and talent. Put up 35 10 and 4 on 53% shooting against the sixers 30 10 and 4 against the bucks and 29 10 and 4 against the warriors. He literally had the third most points in a playoffs behind only Jordan and Lebron and you asking “what did he do?” You’re a hater.
8:27 shows why Stephen is more valuable than KD, as Kyrie and LeBron look at is as an afterthought as steph rushes to the 3point line. Mind boggling how they just ignore one of the best scorers in the NBA!
Every superstar who wins a championship never did it by themselves, but I think Dirk carried his team the most out of everyone else.. You can just tell his made his team better, and I agree, people always try to rewrite history, how they think Chamberlain's and Russel's era was weak, how people always bring career's like Chamberlain's Lebrons, other players we barely hear about but have big impacts down..
KD's 2017 FMVP is so underated! I understand why your thought process on this one but he had way more pressure on him then people think due to all the expectations. Plus he also had the most efficient FMVP of all time whilst averaging 35!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lmfao keep giving KD disrespect. So KD’s performance should be penalized because he’s on a good team? Lebron playing in Miami with 3 all stars, Ray Allen saving his legacy won’t be penalized though, that’s rich. Lebron gets amazing recognition that Durant deserves playing on a team that was a LITTLE bit worse than KD’s. Funny fact, KD was fucking cooking Lebrons team in 2012. I can understand shitting on the 2018 team that makes sense but KD was shitting on Lebron in his FMVP year and in 2017 in Golden State. Either you’re bias is getting in the way or you’re just not looking at it the way it is.
Been watching your vids a while. Thank you! Your voice is beautiful, your cadence is flawless and your info is entertaining with logical (subjectively so) opinions and math. Please do more slow mo in these. Like the 4 min mark with Kawhi and LeBron. You can really see the little cat n mouse game being played in those. The little hand checks, the smirks, the bumps for position etc. Please include more of that. Ty for your energy and time!
Awesome, but on GSW! If KD did it to beat the GSW and Cavs in the 2016 finals, I may consider him for top 10 top 15 greatest players all time. He didn't do it, and then joined the damn team that beat him. Cringes every time I think about it. Context matters!
Love the series. Other awards could be cool mainly roty and 6th man, coach is probably not gonna be that interesting. But the thing I would like to see video on is top 10 most important/impactful trades of the 2010s. Free agency decisions might be pretty good but it might be predictable. Also I think as heartbreaking as that list would be - the most career altering/impactful injuries of the 2010s.
I thought Nowitzki was going to get robbed. He is absolutely #2 here. And only by a razors edge. Take any single thing away from that GSvCLE series and it would put Dirk as #1..... But the stars aligned for that Finals MVP Lebron got for CLE against the best record in NBA history man..
imagine punishing kd for being on a good time while lebron 2 fmvp with the heats still 2 of the top 4. i’m also a dirk fanboy and he should of definitely been number 1
I will say what you often said in this video "There's no arguing with the numbers, but".. as a fan that was rooting for the warriors Kyrie Irving is who gives me nightmares and it's not just because of that game 7 shot. It's because of what he did for entire 2nd Halves of during games 5, 6, and 7. He was making shot after shot after shot against superb defense in the paint. It was HE who was most responsible for that 3 game comeback.
By numbers, KDs 2017 Finals Performance is the best. And dont forget he had a multiple clutch moment and a game winning 3 that series. "But but he played with a superteam" lol as if Lebron didnt have a 2 allstar on his team lol. KDs Finals performance is arguably top 2 or 1 best finals performance in 2010s.
In my opinion I rank KD at number 3. Statistically he had the best finals series behind 2000 Shaq. And everyone wanted KD to fail there was massive pressure.
List was pretty spot on but 2017 KD should’ve been 5th in front of Kobe and here’s why: 1. The overall hunger he had to win 2. The man averaged 35 10 and 7 on LeBron! 3. Obviously the warriors was stacked but he carried them! 4. The game 3 dagger! I’m just saying that kd made me realize that he’s the best scorer to EVER play this game!
Bosh and wade were averaging 29 ppg combined and on terrible efficiency in the 2014 series, it proves lebron had no help and the Spurs just completely outplayed them
My argument against Iguodala's FMVP isn't that he didn't affect LeBron, but that people overstate that impact. People act like Kerr had a revelation and started playing him, but he was already playing 36 mins a game. The difference was Kerr played Iguodala with the starting group more and that gave him more opportunities to score and show out even though he was already anchoring LeBron with the bench. Steph should have gotten that FMVP.
@@KingAfrica4 It's overstated in comparison to the other things he did. Yeah he helped stop LeBron, but he still put up big numbers on pretty much the same efficiency. Where Iguodala really helped was giving GS 15 more points they weren't getting with Bogut in the starting line-up, and Barnes being unable to preform in the finals.
Li Johnson Dude put up 35, 5, and 8 on 55% from the field, 47% from 3, against a man who everyone was saying is the best player in the league, and some even calling him the “GOAT”. 🤷♀️
