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Ranking the Rome Total War Factions 

Gudea TW
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Thanks to everyone for helping me reach 3000 subscribers! It’s been a cool 8-9 months and I’m really excited for what the future holds. In any case, since there is Rome Total War fever right now, I decided to do a faction tier list for the vanilla RTW factions. Let’s see how I rank them!
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@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
What's your favorite faction in Rome Total War vanilla?
@Gyrosmeister
@Gyrosmeister 3 года назад
Macedon with that messed emblem, simply because of me hailing from that part of Greece
@dannyalex5866
@dannyalex5866 3 года назад
@@Gyrosmeister our Lamda Λ,give it back! Lol
@peavizzle
@peavizzle 3 года назад
Armenia, horse archers on top of good standard combined arms play. Plenty of early enemies make it challenging, and I love controlling the eastern Mediterranean
@legion3307
@legion3307 3 года назад
The Seleucids it's one of the hardest Campaigns my only Contra with this Faction was the Silverlegionaries Unit they should have change it to Hellenic Swordsmen
@Flow86767
@Flow86767 3 года назад
Gaul of course, sadly they didn’t receive enough love in the base game.
@McCreepeh
@McCreepeh 3 года назад
Please rank the factions in the EB mod!
@anr4306
@anr4306 3 года назад
Yes please.
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
Nice idea! Perhaps sometime this month. EB1 yes?
@McCreepeh
@McCreepeh 3 года назад
@@GudeaTW yessir!
@decem_sagittae
@decem_sagittae 3 года назад
@@GudeaTW thank you!!
@Flow86767
@Flow86767 3 года назад
Good job on 3000 subs!
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
Thanks so much!
@91plm
@91plm 3 года назад
of course Brutii are S tier. Once you get a network of trade temples, money print goes BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!
@lolasdm6959
@lolasdm6959 3 года назад
Look, don't care how much legions you have nothing beats cheeriots.
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
Indeed I find it to be the best Roman experience in vanilla
@Dan-uf2vh
@Dan-uf2vh 3 года назад
With Scipii, you can easily steal Greece from Brutii while also getting Sicily and Carthage, a faster access to Egipt - giving you the best regions. Meanwhile, the Brutii get Greece only.
@someone-om1vu
@someone-om1vu 3 года назад
Congrats on 3k!
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
Thanks so much!
@1222dss
@1222dss 2 года назад
Seleucids is my fav faction in RTW hands down. Yes, starting position is a bit tough but the roster is amazing - they have basically the best of all worlds - outstanding pikemen, good enough legionares and deadly cavalry + elephants. The only drawback is the lack of good archers but hey, then they would be totally nuts. Late game Seleucids are steamrolling pretty much everything.
@evren6261
@evren6261 3 года назад
Man, aesthetics aside, Egypt has got to be one of my favorite factions though. The mix of powerful chariots (that wont run amok), skirmish and armor piercing light cav, incredible archers in the pharoh's bowmen, and solid pike support makes for some super fun armies.
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
They aren't bad or anything, a good beginner's faction with a powerful roster. I just can't stand seeing bronze age Egyptians here lol
@magdalenusrex346
@magdalenusrex346 3 года назад
I love Bronze Age Egypt. The idea that people using 1000 year out of date technology to somehow conquer the Seleucids, Armenia, Parthia, Pontus, and stalemate the Roman Empire, all whilst using names like Anehomotep is just amazing to me. Same game with burning pigs. Lambda Macedonians, Seleucids using Segmentata armor, etc.
@IceniTotalWar
@IceniTotalWar 3 года назад
Congrats on 3k Gudea, keep up the good work 👍.
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
Thank you! Will do
@s23389
@s23389 3 года назад
Congrats on the 3k :)
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
Thanks so much!
@winniepooh4630
@winniepooh4630 3 года назад
Congrats on 3k
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
Thanks so much!
@thesnake2620
@thesnake2620 3 года назад
Rank Europa Barbarorum factions! :)
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
Haha seems like this would be very popular - will do
@theposhbarbarian6472
@theposhbarbarian6472 2 месяца назад
I think for Egypt in Rome 1, they should have made it so that you can have both styles of armies (diadochi and Bronze Age), each military building has 2 types you can build, the proper diadochi one, or the Bronze Age one, but choosing ones blocks of any of the other type in that province, and after a certain amount of settlements with enough buildings, you get an event that allows you to choose between either keeping the Bronze Age but loosing out on the diadochi units, or the other way around. I also think the 2 types of armies should be very different in what they specialise in, eg diadochi means great pikes and decent cav, but trash low tier units and missiles, and bronze is great heavy infantry, chariots, and archers, but no pikes or cav (or very little pikes) maybe some sort of culture mechanic as well would have helped. Good thing modding is possible
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 2 месяца назад
There are mods that do this. Would have made Egypt feel more unique to play in the base game
@SquareHeadSlacker
@SquareHeadSlacker 3 года назад
Love ya stuff. Onwards and upwards for this channel!
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
Thank you very much!
@magdalenusrex346
@magdalenusrex346 3 года назад
27:40 *Creative Assembly:* We hear you! _Puts Naqada Culture Egypt in a Bronze Age Total War fighting Hittites and Kassites_
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
LOL nice
@xCori91x
@xCori91x 8 месяцев назад
I'm not that knowledgable in the Bronze Age era but we've got Pharaoh Total War with Egypt and the Hittites LOL
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 8 месяцев назад
Well that's fine, just not Naqada age lol
@Splicer87
@Splicer87 3 года назад
It’s still lit!
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
Indeed!
@jonsnow7092
@jonsnow7092 3 года назад
The title is a bit misleading since you're rating the factions based on how much you like them rather than their strength. also, a lot of points regarding the starting position as well as initial strength only matter if the factions are controlled by AI since a human player can easily play around those weaknesses even on VH/VH. in terms of strength, S tier is clear, overall the best factions are Seleucids, Roman factions and Germania. Not only that these factions have access to some of the best units in the game but each of them is extremely flexible and overall potent from early to lategame. For me, A tier would be comprised of factions that might not be as flexible but that are capable of compositions that can easily defeat any other faction with minimal losses, even on VH. Here, archers are the key since they can consistently dish out enormous damage. Gaul, Egypt and Dacia each have both the best archers in the game (that can also get upgraded), as well as frontline units strong and flexible enough to defend such archers. Egypt has excellent phalanx while Dacians and Gauls have more flexible chosen swordsmen. Macedon, Pontus, Thrace as well as Greek Cities can also be very strong with the right playstyle and they all have hidden gems in their rosters. However, they require more micro management during battles and facing certain factions might get tougher at times. Of course Numidia is always Z tier.
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
Thanks for the comment! I don't quite get how the title is misleading... I did say it was my opinion...
@ecogatg7431
@ecogatg7431 3 года назад
Damn we really need a Head To head or Coop Campaign for the remaster. Would be sooo f..ing nice to Play carthage vs Rome or Greeks vs Rome.
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
Would have been super nice... the best feature of the newer games.
@le_cataphractaire9552
@le_cataphractaire9552 3 года назад
All hail the Seleucid Empire!
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
All hail Seleucus!
@borisbeltev7214
@borisbeltev7214 7 месяцев назад
Also parthia definitely has the dumbest icon. I wonder if it was a joke about the word tiara, since european vs persian tiara is so stark
@joseanramirez8551
@joseanramirez8551 3 года назад
Congrats on 3k subs Gudea!!
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
Thanks very much!
@ioanniskolakes3248
@ioanniskolakes3248 3 года назад
CONGRATULATIONS GUDEA!
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
Thank you very much!
@Montechristoss
@Montechristoss 3 года назад
Congrats for reaching 3000 sub !!! you diserve 300000 and more . Very interesting video have you consider to cover the faction tier list from other total war games such as medieval 2 or atilla total war ?
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
Yes! This month will be very RTW focused but I will definitely do tier lists for the other total wars as well
@baggelis_aikaterinis
@baggelis_aikaterinis 3 года назад
Off-topic sad news ,quote folllows " the Social Media Manager of Europa Barbarorum and I can already say that we will not officially port EB to the remaster" . This i ve read in a RepublicOfPlays video right now .......... ; {
@IceniTotalWar
@IceniTotalWar 3 года назад
That's sad, i thought Eb was still being worked for a new version 1.3 so hopefully that will still be released and fixes some of the bugs in EB 1.2.
@baggelis_aikaterinis
@baggelis_aikaterinis 3 года назад
@@IceniTotalWar these things are still being worked for the new version , i m talking about the implementation of the mod to the remaster version .
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
I didn't expect them to do that, I think another team would have to take charge of such an effort.
@IceniTotalWar
@IceniTotalWar 3 года назад
@@baggelis_aikaterinis Did they say why ? Maybe because it's not mod foldered, Roma Surrectum is the same i think.
@baggelis_aikaterinis
@baggelis_aikaterinis 3 года назад
@@IceniTotalWar www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?810359-Europa-Barbarorum-remaster&highlight=Europa+Barbarorum
@MsSirAndy
@MsSirAndy 3 года назад
Julii should be A, Scipi should be S, Gauls deserve C at most.... how can gaul be better than roman?
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
I'm not a huge Rome fan
@johnirby8847
@johnirby8847 11 месяцев назад
I don't understand the rating for Scythia. They are S tier all day long. They can chew up cataphracts and Romans with head hunting maidens. The basic horse archer stats are better than Armenia and Parthia. And since the units have such low building requirements, they can go on a non stop rampage, a bit like the Huns or Atilla, sacking every city while able to retrain to full strength and keep right on moving. Hell, their horse archer units don't even need a stables....a tier one barracks 😱
@rtwmoder
@rtwmoder 3 года назад
Yh actually the map of parthia is in 170_140bc😂
@vitoanania6042
@vitoanania6042 3 года назад
For any faction the best strategy is: spam horseman skirmisher, like armies made only of them, and in battles surround the enemies first focusing on their skirmishers and archers. Then retreat when you run out of spears.
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
lol nice... I suppose that's why mods like EB2 have made javelins next to useless xD
@vitoanania6042
@vitoanania6042 3 года назад
@@GudeaTW probably aha or you can Mongol your way till Rome. But I never tried Europa Barbarorum 2
@blakeprocter5818
@blakeprocter5818 3 года назад
Other reasons to put Brutii and Armenia at the top is for them having the coolest faction symbols. I'd agree that the Seleucids have the strongest and most diverse faction roster. They really have all grounds covered except for horse archers, but they can make up for that with easy access to Scythian mercenaries in the north and Bedouin mercenaries in the south.
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
I agree, I find the colors and design of the Brutii and Armenia symbols to be the most aesthetically pleasing
@riojulio9650
@riojulio9650 3 года назад
I play all factions and only one factions difficult for me to play that is Spain because all their infantry is weak including bull warrior the morale is low and cant hold long
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
Makes it challenging! :)
@riojulio9650
@riojulio9650 3 года назад
No worry i already take all settlements with all factions in less than 40 years :) excluding Rebel because playing as Rebel is just pain in the weak spot. ps Unfortunetly im not the kind of guy that do record and share
@armandom.s.1844
@armandom.s.1844 Год назад
Greek cities choice is based on his relationship with Rome during the 3rd and 2nd centuries BC. Syracuse, the kingdom of Pergamon, Sparta (and Achaeans) and Thermon (the Aetolians) all helped Rome in some of the most important wars. Not a very consistent choice but understandable I think.
@aleaiactaest6503
@aleaiactaest6503 3 года назад
Britannia is S tier, Carthage is D tier, Julii is A for me. Chariots for the first, bad unit roster and poor economy for the 2nd, and easy migration for the third.
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
I like Carthage due to the dynamic campaign, their roster isn't the best
@aleaiactaest6503
@aleaiactaest6503 3 года назад
@@GudeaTW I feel that every faction that isn't rebels is entirely dynamic and sandboxy in their own way. Rome does a great job in having near infinite replayability while most factions in, say, Rome 2 vanilla have the issue of not making sense to go down alternate paths with.
@lolasdm6959
@lolasdm6959 3 года назад
Thrace, being next to the scythians, have no archers, making them qute difficult to be honest.
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
Yeah they are tough indeed.
@AndyMillar
@AndyMillar 3 года назад
Don't the Bronze and Silver Shields have identical stats? Sounded like you think the Bronze have a disadvantage of some sort
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
I'm actually not sure, they might be the same but I can't recall.
@armandom.s.1844
@armandom.s.1844 Год назад
They are identical, but bronze shields are better since they habe advantage fighting in deserts
@irishcream9004
@irishcream9004 3 года назад
Selucia gang
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
nice
@roberttaylor3118
@roberttaylor3118 Год назад
Not a bad list overall. Personally i think scipii is much closer to brutii than it is to julii, although id probably put brutii and scipii in A tier. I also dont see how armenia is higher than seleucid or even pontus. The latter two have much better phalanx units and while seleucid does have a scattered start, at least theyre already on the mediterranean and with intent you can pretty easily fling an army out to rhodes to get that 40% naval trade boost, i think pontus also has a better starting position. Personally i also like the seleucid and pontid factions, id probably put them A+ maybe S tier, and id move Macedon to at least A tier. Oh also: seems you just don't like Egypt for reasons of historical context? It's pretty awesome within the scope of just the game. Great roster, pretty fantastic starting position, same reasons i think Seleucid is decent only without all the drawbacks of Seleucids start...plus the positive notes are even better for egypt
@roberttaylor3118
@roberttaylor3118 Год назад
I also think Germania and Gaul should probably be B tier because i think their starting positions are pretty bad, mostly because i think the aegean and eastern mediterranean coastal territories are some of if not the best areas for reasons related to economics, trade, and wonders.
@litphaniusmcmelloy4275
@litphaniusmcmelloy4275 3 года назад
I feel you so much about bronze age Egypt, what a nonsense faction
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
Thank you! Just doesn't make any sense
@talset2480
@talset2480 3 года назад
See i like it from a gameplay perspective due to the variety it adds but HATE it from a historical perspective. Its my most conflicted feelings to any faction in any total war game
@Dan-uf2vh
@Dan-uf2vh 3 года назад
why would you put Carthage on the highest tier? all of their army is terrible and they must struggle to take Sicily or they are out of the game; their only redeeming units are Elephants and Sacred Band and they don't get temples to support their military
@Nik-px5yz
@Nik-px5yz 3 года назад
How did Armenia end up in S tier? I smell Bias.
@lolasdm6959
@lolasdm6959 3 года назад
Armenian cataphracts are not bad.
@BlacknWhite076
@BlacknWhite076 3 года назад
I know right armenia is like upper B tier
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
Most versatile roster, cool starting position, and aesthetically pleasing colors and faction symbol.
@ArsenAl-zorK
@ArsenAl-zorK 3 года назад
@@GudeaTW I think the faction symbol is based on the Nisean Horse which Armenia was very famed for. Or maybe cause Armenia was just generally well known for its horsemanship in the ancient world. I fully agree about the color scheme being pleasant.
@fenrir7878
@fenrir7878 2 года назад
Scutarii are not quite equal to Hastatii unless they have experienced and/or upgrades to weapons or armor. But as a pilum throwing light swordsman it's pretty good as a starting unit. You think of the Legionnaires of eastern factions like Seleucids and Armenia and they don't get these units till much later. I've always liked Scutarii, and I regularly hire them as mercenaries even if I'm Roman.
@Dan-uf2vh
@Dan-uf2vh 3 года назад
With Scipii, you can easily steal Greece from Brutii while also getting Sicily and Carthage, a faster access to Egipt - giving you the best regions. Meanwhile, the Brutii get Greece only. Also, what's up with ranking Spain that high? They are the quintessential isolated faction and unlike Scythia who can abuse their cavalry, Spanish armies have NOTHING going for them - even their super unit lacks the armor of a legionary cohort which it tries to emulate.
@drplayups4572
@drplayups4572 2 года назад
You forgot to mention the beserkers from Germania!!
@retvrntotradition4454
@retvrntotradition4454 3 года назад
I don't know if anyone has noticed this but Macedon's emblem is more associated with Sparta. As a history buff this bothers me lol. But good faction nonetheless.
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
Definitely, should've mentioned that.
@padishahproductions1214
@padishahproductions1214 3 года назад
I just subbed
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
Thank you very much!
@HectorMendoza-zs6ff
@HectorMendoza-zs6ff 3 года назад
Nice you can do this on all games and mods
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
Sure!
@prs_81
@prs_81 3 года назад
Tbh by the time you get things like cataphracts and silvershileds when playing Seleucids, you're already dominating the map. That's what happened to me. Got my first companion cavalry literally when I had reached Sicily.
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
That's true, one of the biggest issues in RTW vanilla
@johnirby8847
@johnirby8847 11 месяцев назад
If you are very good at battles Macedonia is unbeatable. They have early lancers that are useful the entire game, lancers can beat horse archers because of the charge and they move just as fast. If you are playing a campaign, Roman factions, Germania, Armenia, Scythia, are S tier, Armenia must be careful and take out Rome before the reforms. Greece migration works best for Armenia.
@johnirby8847
@johnirby8847 11 месяцев назад
Seleucid is extremely good but a little hard on VH/VH, but if you can hold out to better moral units, you will absolutely destroy everyone.
@PaxGamingHD
@PaxGamingHD 6 месяцев назад
You mispronounced everything. Its Maçedon not Maqqidon .
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 6 месяцев назад
Wrong
@XDSCoN13X
@XDSCoN13X 4 месяца назад
I feel like its armenia coping
@MedjayofFaiyum
@MedjayofFaiyum 3 года назад
Yes I hate the Pink Parthian Pajamas
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
just painful lol
@MedjayofFaiyum
@MedjayofFaiyum 3 года назад
@@GudeaTW I mean I think Sparabara and Persians that were way more colorful than the stereotypical depiction of Parthian pink soliders. I mean even DEI has a more colourful Persian army for that matter!
@lolasdm6959
@lolasdm6959 3 года назад
Horse archers>Cataphracts!
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
Why not both? :)
@palacehaunter5442
@palacehaunter5442 3 года назад
Very bad list, you must be drunk. Egypt, Seluekia, Julii Romans should all be top tier. So you are wrong.
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
lol it's just my opinion.
@rtwmoder
@rtwmoder 3 года назад
But Armenia is a very weak country in online battles Very very weak Cataphract archer is a disaster(online battles) Legions are not strong enough And pikemens are weak but cheap Parthia is much stronger than Armenia
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
Never played an online battle in RTW ever
@rtwmoder
@rtwmoder 3 года назад
@@GudeaTW yh ofcourse Macadamia carthage pharthia romans and maybe scythian are very good in online battles
@cfv7461
@cfv7461 3 года назад
Iberian infantry is just awful in all ways.
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
yup they aren't the best that's for sure...
@johnnewman7435
@johnnewman7435 Год назад
Why did you make a 12 minute video 40 minutes
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW Год назад
Felt like it
@johnnewman7435
@johnnewman7435 Год назад
@@GudeaTW so the mispronounciation of half the factions was purposeful too
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW Год назад
@@johnnewman7435 which ones?
@nefftron1
@nefftron1 3 года назад
Glad I found your channel. Congrats on the growth!
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
Thank you! Glad you're enjoying it.
@justoalvarez3940
@justoalvarez3940 3 года назад
Ohhh, we, the "historical nerds" We're so fckd...
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
What do you mean?
@justoalvarez3940
@justoalvarez3940 3 года назад
@@GudeaTW I don't think CA is gonna make a really good historical Total War game anymore :( I think it's just not profitable, as they're trying to force all kinds of weird arcady mechanics in the new titles. But in all honesty, I think the Rome Remastered platform just needs some fixes to be the best one for mods.
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
We'll see! I'm optimistic. Rome remastered will be getting some patches
@kasamajais7923
@kasamajais7923 3 года назад
hi, i know this is unrelated but do u know any mods for more factions on custom battle for ntw.
@GudeaTW
@GudeaTW 3 года назад
Sorry, don't know about that :(
@kasamajais7923
@kasamajais7923 3 года назад
@@GudeaTW ok thx anyways
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