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@thepoorhammerpodcast
@thepoorhammerpodcast 5 месяцев назад
100K Q&A Thread: ru-vid.comUgkxoRRpCSuXlRHkvStqMgW5kIi1LmFZYsww Make sure to like the questions you want us to answer from others too, it should help me see them when I try reviewing them all.
@OrkishEngineering
@OrkishEngineering 5 месяцев назад
hypothetical question: if you had to make a model even bigger than a warlord titan, what would it be? catch: it has to be a xenos faction, but youi get to remove oldmarines!
@VardirEzra
@VardirEzra 5 месяцев назад
If GW were to make new models for a faction that does not currently have any what would you like it to be?
@JawaBob
@JawaBob 5 месяцев назад
Q&A Question: What's your personal forgotten legions head-cannon?
@mrcaptaina7636
@mrcaptaina7636 5 месяцев назад
Ok, so from your vids it seems apparent that you're in the SE MI area. Do you have any plans to make appearances at any conventions in the state, or within a reasonable (like 2-3hrs) journey? It'd be great to attend a live Q&A with you guys running the panel.
@GraceRunner4000
@GraceRunner4000 5 месяцев назад
Eric are you or were you a radiation physicist?
@Akimbo411
@Akimbo411 5 месяцев назад
“When the Hive Fleet came to your planet, it was the most important day of your lives. For us, it was lunch time.”
@jasonbuchanan7042
@jasonbuchanan7042 5 месяцев назад
After all this biomass, they're just trying to find the Tums planet the poor guys.
@Sir_Bucket
@Sir_Bucket 5 месяцев назад
​@@epiceg9464 Can't wait for Normdon Ramsy to yell about how raw that guardsmen goo is
@kamiwriterleonardo6345
@kamiwriterleonardo6345 5 месяцев назад
​@@epiceg9464 WHERE IS THE GOD DAMN OGRYN SAUCE?!
@Speknoz
@Speknoz 5 месяцев назад
​​@@games-wz7sz no, it's an altered quote from Bison in the 1994 Street Fighter movie. Edited the year for accuracy.
@JCLegendary
@JCLegendary 5 месяцев назад
For me it was Chewsday.
@killickmickelson4019
@killickmickelson4019 5 месяцев назад
Berilio's little added bits are killing me every time he adds them. 11/10 work
@MatchaMakesThings
@MatchaMakesThings 5 месяцев назад
i like it, just a bit much on this one. I'd take 1 or two less interjections overall. The chains gag gets me everytime
@BloodWolfXZ
@BloodWolfXZ 5 месяцев назад
Really, he's a total gem of an editor. You guys should pay him and let him leave his prison cell now and then.
@MatchaMakesThings
@MatchaMakesThings 5 месяцев назад
@@BloodWolfXZ Agreed! they really got a good one
@anonspurdala8714
@anonspurdala8714 5 месяцев назад
i was hit hard at the end with the sentence 'you're in good hands with most factions, but i'd stay away from-' and then proceeding to list every faction i play
@AndersonBaker-uq3ku
@AndersonBaker-uq3ku 5 месяцев назад
Chaos knights hurts man.
@ry7hym
@ry7hym 20 дней назад
​@@AndersonBaker-uq3ku for Chaos Knights isn't it better to just create your own lore?
@nonya1366
@nonya1366 5 месяцев назад
"Can the handgrenade be a villian?" Just for that I'm going to shove a daemon into a handgrenade! -Some warpsmith
@Gef2112
@Gef2112 5 месяцев назад
Book from like 15 peoples POV but the Changeling's on the cover and you spend the whole read trying to guess who he his WHEN GW WHEN
@andrewnewell1142
@andrewnewell1142 5 месяцев назад
There’s one short story that features the Leagues of Votann as an antagonist, “One Million Years” by Nate Crowley. It’s not enough to really learn much about the faction except that they know when they’ve been beat and will try to negotiate terms to make sure they make it out of a fight alive. It… didn’t work on the necrons they tried to mug.
@collecter343
@collecter343 5 месяцев назад
Breath of fresh air when you have a faction that’s logical about when to cut its losses and just leave. Last part was very businesslike.
@Stormeris
@Stormeris 5 месяцев назад
Wasn't Badab war the result of 'we need space marines to fight space marines' and not HH?
@ecth97
@ecth97 5 месяцев назад
Badab War was that for space marines, Horus Heresy was that for the entire imperium
@matthewbagley4287
@matthewbagley4287 5 месяцев назад
I believe the game they were trying to sell was titanicus (titans vs titans) I think the heresy may have been briefly mentioned before that as a "why the emperor isn't around any more" snippet but titanicus is when it started getting proper lore and a plot line
@gavinjackson9941
@gavinjackson9941 5 месяцев назад
Fun fact, “Lords of Silence” is why I wanted to start a death guard army. I decided to go Maggotkin of Nurgle instead though, just so I can play sigmar.
@jared6013
@jared6013 5 месяцев назад
Lords of Silence is why I'm constantly on the verge of starting a Death Guard army. A thoroughly enjoyable read.
@quanghungtran3581
@quanghungtran3581 3 месяца назад
Yeah, DG are always so nice and rational compared to the other psychos in the setting
@tomekk.1889
@tomekk.1889 2 месяца назад
​@@quanghungtran3581There's plenty of other rational chaos legions out there though. Alpha, tsons...
@quanghungtran3581
@quanghungtran3581 2 месяца назад
@@tomekk.1889 I agree with Alpha Legion, yeah. Thousand Sons stories lean a little on their ego and arrogance, thinking they can do anything and change fate (especially Ahriman Omnibus), so I think a little less ration on their part
@kerianndoassans
@kerianndoassans 5 месяцев назад
ah yes, "Brad eat shit incorporated"... I'm trying to find something smart to say, but Brad is nice...
@sidders1943
@sidders1943 5 месяцев назад
I think Tyranid lore should be translated through the genestealer cults and/or implied through outside observers. I think the difficulty with tyranids is that they are inherently soulless and emotionless which means that you cannot use character to sell a story.
@jdcrosier2682
@jdcrosier2682 5 месяцев назад
Then do a day of ascension style thing and swap between the characters of the enemy and a third person perspective on the nids.
@user-pv1qk4so6s
@user-pv1qk4so6s 5 месяцев назад
You could have a tyranid character who is something like a gaunt that is constantly being reborn, serves a purpose, then dies, similar to how the Swarmlord is discussed in the lore. But yeah, they really couldn't carry a novel by themselves.
@brassviking486
@brassviking486 5 месяцев назад
Which is why you make them an antagonist in a war of the world's style story with a cast of characters being whittled down.
@samuelcody6132
@samuelcody6132 5 месяцев назад
Hey y'all, I stumbled upon your channel a few months back. I've always been a huge fan of the look of 40k minis, but I've only ever played the Space Marine Xbox video game, and the Dark Heresy RPG. That being said, I recently started painting the models as a hobbiest. I paint Thousand Sons and Dark Angels in a very 90's arcade style. As such, I've been wanting to get more into the lore of the universe. Your video here inspired me to go to my local bookshop, and pick up a copy of the Ahriman Omnibus earlier today. Though I'm only just on page 27, I've found it to be quite compelling so far. Thank you, guys, for doing what ya do.
@marvinavila8877
@marvinavila8877 5 месяцев назад
Brad and Eric are professional yappers now.
@czarcitizen6881
@czarcitizen6881 5 месяцев назад
Eric, I strongly recommend Fire Caste by Peter Fehervari if you're looking for another book which does the existential terror surrounding chaos daemons justice. (Ironically, it's also a great portrayal of the Tau in an antagonist role.)
@michaelstevens5712
@michaelstevens5712 5 месяцев назад
They've got to get an audio book together for that one.
@mut-x8k
@mut-x8k 3 месяца назад
13:09 Not only do sisters of silence exist but they also took part and featured in many of the battles of the HH like the burning of prospero.
@matijasostojic4288
@matijasostojic4288 Месяц назад
"Burrito of prospero" -My brain
@phoenixdblack
@phoenixdblack 5 месяцев назад
Holy hell, that's early. Well, I just hope my Orkboyz deliver more than expected, as usual. Edit: 'ERE WO GO LADZ!
@dr.spudies1555
@dr.spudies1555 5 месяцев назад
Tau lore isn't that bad but the books for it really f*ckin suck. Edit: They are interesting because they are a naive species that knows nothing about the universe.
@rayvg7709
@rayvg7709 5 месяцев назад
I'll admit, us Blood Angel fans are spoiled for books. BUT I CRAVE MORE!
@sebastianpoulsen8728
@sebastianpoulsen8728 5 месяцев назад
Also for Necrons, the short story Severed is great! It’s Nemesor Zandrekh and Obyron romping around, all good fun and… sad? Good lil story
@NoireRequiemXIX
@NoireRequiemXIX 5 месяцев назад
I actually enjoyed the recent "Catachan Devil" book, they are also coming with a new Catachan book coming soon (Deathworlder). If there is one place other guard regiments exist, it's in the books
@DungeonMagister
@DungeonMagister 5 месяцев назад
The Carrion Throne might not be a custodes book, but it has a phenomenal display of the custodes in it. Also, imagine the classic "snobby elf and grumpy dwarf companions" duos but with LoV and Aeldari
@cherrypopscile3385
@cherrypopscile3385 5 месяцев назад
I prefer 40k before the retcons (I taped Dune, Lord of the rings, and a picture of Judge Dread together)
@UrbanArmada
@UrbanArmada 2 месяца назад
Devastation of Baal is almost a Tyranid book, theres more than a few scenes from the perspective of an infiltration Nid.
@dabakedawg
@dabakedawg 5 месяцев назад
"It's all a product: the lore is the excuse, the product is what you're being sold." It's odd to preface an hour of talking about the lore by stating it's as arbitrary as the plot to Debbie Does Dallas.
@sladewilson2753
@sladewilson2753 5 месяцев назад
6:00 "Warhammer is made out of retcons" *hard cut to Custodes* I love you, Berellio
@tenebrisnarud9738
@tenebrisnarud9738 5 месяцев назад
Tyranid Lore Books (i.e. focused almost entirely on the Tyranids as a main threat): -Leviathan Novel released at start of 10th edition -Leviathan/Tyrannic War Crusade Lore Section -Leviathan Omnibus -Devastation of Baal While this may not be entirely accurate with short stories that have gone under the radar (Fall of Malvolion), this is focused on main books with them as a threat. I am also focusing on Tyranids because it is my main and favourite army
@AfunnynameWEE
@AfunnynameWEE 5 месяцев назад
I would include Severed in the Few Good Books of Necrons. Sure, you read it in an afternoon but it is SO GOOD at showing what's the deal with necron nobility.
@AndrewMcColl
@AndrewMcColl 5 месяцев назад
I know you had to draw the line somewhere, but starting a few years early would let you include the most fun trilogy I've read - Shira Calpurnia. The first is a pretty standard, by-the-numbers crime story, the second is messed up Rogue Trader politics, and the third is full of Telepathica wackiness. And best of all, they all flow together like a movie trilogy (or three season TV series).
@facehuggerfrequency8603
@facehuggerfrequency8603 8 дней назад
I’m a new warhammer 40k player and a huge Alien fan so I chose tyranids as my first army. Just from what i understand, the hive mind could have an interesting perspective. A cleansing flame of peace. In an age of constant warfare, only if everything is tyranid, will the cosmos truly find peace.
@TheBeastOfTheDark
@TheBeastOfTheDark 4 месяца назад
Every time it comes up I am shocked that Brad has not read the Path of the Dark Eldar trilogy. Highly recommend, if you like anything about Drukhari you will be as happy as a kid in a candy store reading them. At least until you realize we have very little else at the moment, here's hoping the Lelith book lives up to it to add something else to our collection.
@raphrodin
@raphrodin 4 месяца назад
You know Eldar Exodites (and Dark Mechanicum) are the most forgotten when they didn't even get into the tier list
@nathanstruble2177
@nathanstruble2177 5 месяцев назад
Can we ask WHAT DID BILE DO TO GET KICKED OUT OF THE EMPEROR'S CHILDREN!???!! What was TOO extreme for the Slaanesh cult!??!??
@dylearium
@dylearium 5 месяцев назад
I think it's because he prefers nefarious extreme science to nefarious extreme demonology
@DnBGolf
@DnBGolf 5 месяцев назад
I like how Eric "read the entire intro" of the Lion El'Johnson book, lol
@cobaltowl4553
@cobaltowl4553 5 месяцев назад
Only six minutes into the vid so I'll remove this comment if it gets brought up but: Apparently female Custodes have actually been a thing since 2022 from the book Echos of Eternity. It's just that no one that made a big deal about there being female Custodes both likes Custodes and reads their books.
@cobaltowl4553
@cobaltowl4553 3 месяца назад
Oh yeah I want to correct myself on this, apparently that statement of male and female golden warriors includes the sisters of silence. I just kind of forgot they existed since they got a max of 4 units (one of which pairs the hero with a normal custodian). I still stand that female custides are perfectly fine to bring into the lore, though it was a good bit lazy how they did so.
@sHinobu2969
@sHinobu2969 5 месяцев назад
I bought the Harlequin audiobooks pretty much immediately after listening to this and the first one was very good, haven't heard the second one yet. I didn't even know harlequins had books until now
@alexabadajos7461
@alexabadajos7461 5 месяцев назад
I am so thankful for at least one adult take regarding the women in the custodes, it was so embarrassing to be associated with 40k these last week. Its been 100% maidenless takes as far as the eye can see.
@JoeyFangaz
@JoeyFangaz 5 месяцев назад
I feel like I’m the only one who likes Phil Kelly. Feels like I’m reading manga at times
@SM0RN124
@SM0RN124 5 месяцев назад
I had no idea thoasand sons had such little lore I’m so sorry
@collecter343
@collecter343 5 месяцев назад
Kind of what happens when you’re main defining motivation is reversing the Rubric and fucking over the Space Wolves. The rest is generic CSM goals.
@ubermenschen01
@ubermenschen01 5 месяцев назад
11:35 YES! Give me the Zoomer lingo tierlist. Bringing back "yapping" was a funny bit but now it's over-used. Any amount or type of talking is "yapping" now, it's lost any bite.
@mathewblaine1109
@mathewblaine1109 4 месяца назад
Wow found out I've read a lot of 40k books I guess more then I should have . Really enjoying the channel. Night lords trilogy is pretty good
@FluffyZerg42
@FluffyZerg42 5 месяцев назад
The Emperor has always had 4 arms, correct?
@MICR0RAPT0R
@MICR0RAPT0R 5 месяцев назад
I have been getting back into warhammer recently and this is exactly what I wanted, thanks guys!
@calebhurst2529
@calebhurst2529 4 месяца назад
I about died at around 19:31 I love that Berilio made that happen 😂
@TheAceOfSkulls1
@TheAceOfSkulls1 5 месяцев назад
I'm not sure where the "Great Crusade is next" comes from because from everything I've heard it sounds like the next period piece GW is eye is the Scouring, which is on the opposite side of the Horus Heresy (and would still allow for Custodes, Xenos, Knights, Chaos and even some of the imperium factions). I legitimately tried to find a source for the great crusade announcement and haven't found anything (though keep in mind, all my stuff for the Scouring is rumormill so it's equally not as confirmed as far as I can tell). Also as someone who is a fan of Sisters, I'm kind of shocked they ranked so high. Yeah the past few years have been good for them, but it feels like it's two authors focusing hard. I'm hoping it will hit the More Than You Can Read for me soon, but we're only just about to get a book on Vahl and several of the books are more like novellas and collections. For me it ranks in the More of This (Please) category, especially because unlike Admech and Guard who tend to share spotlight very well even when it's not their books (with Guard books sometimes even having different Guard varieties share spotlight) , Sister cameos or guest spots in novels tend to be extremely surface level. I think I'm definitely grading on a different scale though and I'll respect futureproofing the episode though with the release schedule looking the way it does.
@manzana_2001
@manzana_2001 4 месяца назад
If gw is making retcons to sell models where are my female custodes models? I thought they were trying to sell me models...
@danielhall6354
@danielhall6354 3 месяца назад
The James Swallow sisters of battle books are really good - 'hammer and anvil' and ' faith and fire'
@HiTmAn15436
@HiTmAn15436 5 месяцев назад
Objectively based and correct Bricky take. Love to see it
@brianwise899
@brianwise899 5 месяцев назад
More daemon horror please GW. A guy can only read so much codex for lore.
@briankuczynski6884
@briankuczynski6884 5 месяцев назад
13:17 where did gw announce that Great Crusade would be the next major arc of black library?
@thepoorhammerpodcast
@thepoorhammerpodcast 5 месяцев назад
I corrected this in a few comments and on the intro of the next episode. I had some old rumors and announcement backwards. It's the scouring.
@CatCraine
@CatCraine 5 месяцев назад
Day of Ascension is so good it made me start a GSC army, despite knowing it was expensive and a lot of hobbying. Highly recommended!
@metalblizzard6024
@metalblizzard6024 5 месяцев назад
Awesome video idea! Have yall watched any of the warhammer TV stuff? The Necron/Sisters one actually has a glimpse at salamanders for a second
@anhojghost8913
@anhojghost8913 4 месяца назад
Should definitely read invcitus its literally about a forgeworld of the admech thats the home of one titan legion that gets invaded by a chaos titan legion it gives you some great insight to the politics and an interesting split in the admech theology between those who see the emperor and omnisiah as the same and some who feel differently not heretical but still great read
@AWPtical800
@AWPtical800 Месяц назад
Supposedly Votann are getting a book soon, so yeah Xenos have been on a roll this year.
@laurel_in_green9273
@laurel_in_green9273 5 месяцев назад
In terms of getting books as villain factions or smaller hero factions, Age of Sigmar has actually done a really good job in my opinion. The most recent AoS book I read was 50:50 Ossiarch Bonereapers:Lumineth Realm Lords. Before that for me was a great Slaves to Darkness book. Looking at upcoming stuff, there's a Kharadon Overlords book and the next book in a Soulblight Gravelords series (which I'm going to check out for sure now). I think AoS allows for a lot of flexibility and variation that 40k can be lacking sometimes
@JachymorDota
@JachymorDota 5 месяцев назад
The lore does make the difference. Many settings have Orcoid factions, but football Hooligans who actually enjoy the universe they are in is the best way to make a bunch of green dudes interesting and appealing.
@Fell-Handed_Bjorn
@Fell-Handed_Bjorn 5 месяцев назад
Look in the Battle of the Fang I kicked Magnus' face in thats worth a read alone
@thepoorhammerpodcast
@thepoorhammerpodcast 5 месяцев назад
We'd be impressed, but the Lion's book showed everyone could beat Magnus in a fist fight. Even a warp ghost of him hits harder than him.
@Fell-Handed_Bjorn
@Fell-Handed_Bjorn 5 месяцев назад
​@@thepoorhammerpodcast Fair enough
@Kakimech89
@Kakimech89 5 месяцев назад
To be fair, Battle of the Fang describes Magnus tossing around DOZENS of Space Wolved Ven Dreads, so that will be fun for Poorhammer to pour through 😅
@sonicwingnut
@sonicwingnut 5 месяцев назад
There is actually one other source of Votann lore - the Kill Team Gallowfall book.
@Texas_montantero
@Texas_montantero 5 месяцев назад
Speaking as someone whom you have convinced not to get into the table top game but still enjoys the lore, I sincerely appreciate these episodes
@Zaerdra
@Zaerdra Месяц назад
I got a little sad when you said Ciaphas Cain wasn't being considered. I love that book series.
@albertchen5404
@albertchen5404 5 месяцев назад
The Big Dakka is kind of a Drukhari book too. With a slice of life romance subplot too lol
@Dirt1061
@Dirt1061 5 месяцев назад
I love Pariah by Dan Abnett. Highly recommend the series.
@Sora623898
@Sora623898 5 месяцев назад
I think the only real way to do a Tyranid book would be to write it in third person omnipotent and follow a Lictor, like Deathleaper who is apparently a unique Lictor that exists in the Codex. Even trying to do it about Old One Eye wouldn't work as well, but Lictors likely spend a significant enough amount of time on a planet to be able to have a story.
@goldleaf9909
@goldleaf9909 5 месяцев назад
On the note of good genestealer lore they are about 1/2 of the story in The Rose in Darkness. The story is fantastic and they make genestealer cults sound so insane and cool and terrifying.
@jlq1331
@jlq1331 5 месяцев назад
Just painted my first model, the Swarmlord.
@prettyflyforacompsci7725
@prettyflyforacompsci7725 5 месяцев назад
Wait, was thr 7 years thing mentioned at 8:52 in reference to something specific?
@seppyseppi6889
@seppyseppi6889 5 месяцев назад
While not full books/novels, there are several good Necron short stories such as Severed, and Battle at the Museum or whatever its called. Genestealer cults while still villains, do get alot of love in short stories too.
@knightsljx
@knightsljx 5 месяцев назад
people are still missing the point about the Custodes retcon, it was the way it was done that is the problem, not the female Custodes. When FW wrote the Horus Heresy, they introduced an entire new setting, when FW wrote the Siege of Vraks we got an entire line of DKoK minis. The Custodes 'retcon' was nothing but a lazy gaslit paragraph that served ZERO purpose except pander to a group that doesn't even care about 40K. Did we get a trilogy of Custodes background lore? An epic story about a cool new female Custodes released together with an awesome mini? No and No. That's the problem, not the gender of the Custodes. If anything, it was a giant slap in the face of all the strong female factions and characters that already exist in 40K
@matthewmitcham1999
@matthewmitcham1999 5 месяцев назад
I kinda feel this whole situation has become a smoke screen for ‘those’ people and ‘those other’ people to fight. No commentators I’ve seen have taken this position which seems to be the most common Among model buying, lore reading fans. If they are doing some great crusade stuff (not a good idea imo) and add female custodies I honestly don’t care and I mean that in the i have no opinion on it way. Being rude on twitter is not a good look though.
@matijasostojic4288
@matijasostojic4288 Месяц назад
Looking at the drama this is definetly how I feel about/see the situation. It both a soulless company decision made by a outside force or to score brownie points while also showing how alzy GW vćvan be when they decide to Retcon women into a canonicaly all male faction instead of giving more lore to the actual all female factions of the Imperium. Like the sisters of silence are right there but who cares about that when the women can Immediatly be cool by proxy because they are custodes right?
@JT-nr9vl
@JT-nr9vl 5 месяцев назад
Chaos Knights do show up as a villain in “Steel Tread,” and i admit the description really made me wish we had more weirdly organic/animalistic chaos knight models
@cooldad7920
@cooldad7920 5 месяцев назад
I've been following you guys forever now, and it's great to see the perspective of some people who are both new to the hobby but also passionate, fast learning and great content creators. While yeah there are many people who are against female custodes, and I personally don't have a problem with them, the main complaint for a lot of people is the way it was done. "there have always been female custodes". Not in the 20 years, the 4/5s of my life, I've loved 40k. Change can be good, and this could be a good change, I'll wait to see whether the female representation that female custodes get in actual books is good or bad to pass judgement, but it IS a change. All some of us are asking for from gw is a bit of respect, or transparency, retcons aren't usually tandem with a derisive twitter post. I just don't really understand why you would go "you shouldn't care about the lore it's made up to sell toys", then spend an hour talking about the lore. Clearly you DO care about the lore yourselves, and clearly you do understand why others care about the lore. and I usually wouldn't comment on a youtube video, but I genuinely think you guys are great and I think you have, maybe, missed what a lot of people are complaining about under the swathe of "eww girls yucky" and "yooo muscle mommys OwO" *edited for paragraphs lol
@crowsdontcry8258
@crowsdontcry8258 5 месяцев назад
No one cares
@cooldad7920
@cooldad7920 5 месяцев назад
@@crowsdontcry8258 very interesting contribution
@crowsdontcry8258
@crowsdontcry8258 5 месяцев назад
@@cooldad7920 you’re welcome
@grendelsoft
@grendelsoft 5 месяцев назад
What we need is two unique GSC at odds with each other with no other faction showing their pie-hole. (No, not just T'au, Brad... that's just two holes for the price of one...) Then we just get the GSC meme out of the way.
@QuestionableObject
@QuestionableObject 27 дней назад
T'au & Eldar you gotta make your own lore, cause the people who get to write for them, hate them.
@matthewprice6465
@matthewprice6465 5 месяцев назад
I wish tau had more books like fire caste. I'll take them being the villains so long as they are done justice
@wombatsteroids
@wombatsteroids 5 месяцев назад
Fun episode, though I would have liked to hear you touch on some of the other books in the 40k setting too- the Warhammer Horror, Warhammer Crime, and Necromunda lines all have some great books. There are also a bunch of miscellaneous ones about navigators, pilots, inquisitors, rogue traders, etc, although I haven't read any of them so I can't speak to their quality.
@iamabot1o1
@iamabot1o1 5 месяцев назад
As an avid schythes of the emperor enjoyer here, come on Brad, the fact that our lore hates us (except for our own book which is fucking legendary, like seriously a jumpack marine charges a flying tyranid titan) the strays we caught hurt😢
@RaptorianxdReviews
@RaptorianxdReviews 5 месяцев назад
On Brad's point of Successor chapters that have way more lore than you would think, when I read Harrowmaster I thought the Silver Templars were just a random successor chapter that the Alpha Legion had met. I'd never heard of them, and I figured thats a name really similar to Black Templars, they must just be a one off. Nope! They have been in multiple Codexes, they are in the Conquest series and they've been in White Dwarf. Despite never hearing about them, they have a TON of lore.
@jonasstreich4405
@jonasstreich4405 5 месяцев назад
There were some interesting Drukhari characters in some of the Blackstone Fortress short stories.
@jonasstreich4405
@jonasstreich4405 5 месяцев назад
Also some good Eldar appearances in the recent Warhammer Crime novel - the Wraithbone Phoenix - which also has some great abhuman characters.
@jonasstreich4405
@jonasstreich4405 5 месяцев назад
To be fair, not just in the pre-2006 stories - but even more recently, there's a lot of interesting lore in some of the short stories - whether in larger omnibuses or general short story collections. Often a good mix of stories too.
@Wyrdbreak
@Wyrdbreak 5 месяцев назад
Drukhari are basically a 50/50 split on screen time in the Lukas the Trickster book.
@t_s_albatross3270
@t_s_albatross3270 5 месяцев назад
“The lore is built on retcons” Not all retcons are made equal? People are willing to accept the Horus heresy and Primarchs because it expands upon the universe and the world in a way that makes sense. “How was the emperor of mankind planning on managing the entire imperium he had?” “Oh well he made 20- 18 primarchs to govern them all. They just got lost for a while.” “Why are there some space marines that hate the imperium and some that don’t?” “Well there was a civil war between Horus and the emperor of mankind” It all contributes to a greater plot and saying “but it’s all made upon retcons” dismisses what the retcons are, how they transform the world space and how well integrated said changes are within the narrative. You can say their execution was poorly handled or that they needed more time to expand upon the idea, but it’s clear that the changes were done in a way that added to the world space in a substantial way.
@MrBonesWildRide
@MrBonesWildRide 5 месяцев назад
Not to mention that it completely undermines the point of the video. If everything is retcons and nothing matters then why watch the video? Why watch any lore video? Why buy and read any of the books? The Emperor is actually my Uncle Steve who had 17 kids because Steve is a Schizo and made up 3 of them. It's a really shit take to excuse what is little more than pandering but it's the pandering I like therefore it's okay and I won't absolutely throw my toys out the pram if they retcon the retcon Iike.
@arathdejesusescobarromero4904
@arathdejesusescobarromero4904 5 месяцев назад
​@MrBonesWildRide your example of uncle of uncle Steve has to be one the funniest things I ever saw in this platform lmao.
@Enigmaessence
@Enigmaessence 4 месяца назад
Well if you want more Necron and Votann, the short story “One Million Years” by Nate Crowley is very good. But sadly short.
@OGXenos
@OGXenos 5 месяцев назад
I would honestly move World Eaters to "More of this", because while they only have three dedicated books, they are AMAZING books. Betrayer is in the running for the best book of the entire Horus Heresy series and gives us such a huge amount of depth to Angron, showing just how much of his anger is honestly entirely justified, it's not just (though still partially is) the cables digging into his head. He's everything the Imperium and the Emperor ever did wrong in one person. He's fully aware of how people treat him like an animal, how his own father wronged him at every turn, and that deep down he feels like he died back on Nuceria with his brothers and sisters in chains. Some of the rants he give in that book are genuinely introspective, like telling Lorgar how hypocritical the Emperor is to let all the other primarchs keep their families except for him. Or how Guilliman dares to blame him for being the way he is, when he had an empire handed to him on a silver platter, while Angron had to stage a slave rebellion on his home planet after being lobotomized. It also gives us great interactions for Kharn and Argel Tal, and the icon scene of Angron lifting a Warhhound Titan. Angron: Slave of Nuceria really sets the stage for how much potential Angron had to be one of the best primarchs, only to get it repeatedly ripped away time and time again by people with power over him. The slavemasters implanted the nails into him. The Emperor kidnapped him. It just makes his justified rage and sorrow in Betrayer hit even harder. And The Red Angel is a genuinely great character dive focusing on how World Eaters in 40k are coping (or failing to cope) with the state of their legion. Some fight against the nails and retain their sanity, like Kossolax, some fell long ago and are just slathering murderers, like Shahka. It also shows just how far Angron has fallen. The man is completely gone. He's just a wild animal now, a natural disaster made flesh. Simply being around him makes people crave blood. The last half of the book too is probably the most effective narration of how it feels to get invaded by a Chaos fleet this massive. The defenders of the planet KNOW they are going to die. The World Eaters descend on them like a tidal wave of blood and despite the best possible planning the Grey Knights can muster, they're ultimately defeated. They also featured prominently in the Arks of Omen, but people just kinda seem to forget that those were books with an actual story because they cared more about Vashtorr and The Lion getting a model along with new competitive rules. Angron's fight with the Lion was great. He PHYSICALLY THROWS TWO ENTIRE TANKS at Lion! The World Eaters are being flanderized by the fans, and it kinda sucks. There is a ton of depth to their struggle, and the few characters they have are surprisingly prominent and deep, but they can't escape their reputation as the "lol so angy" guys. Most of their books feature them as the protagonists. They deserve more than they get.
@cipher4e
@cipher4e 5 месяцев назад
I really liked the end of blades of Damocles and parts of Damocles like revealing the human commander and the white scar having a hard on for shadows. Haven't read farsight yet
@thisoldwarhammer
@thisoldwarhammer 5 месяцев назад
lets talk about lore but ignore all the original lore for convenience sake lol
@krkngd-wn6xj
@krkngd-wn6xj 5 месяцев назад
I feel like demons could really use the Day of Ascension treatment. Do a book where half of it is from a grey knight's perspective, and half of it balances around some demons doing whatever incursion on a planet. It was a really fun framing in DoA. Or you know, just give it to Tchaikovsky, maybe that was the key.
@MakooWallinen
@MakooWallinen Месяц назад
Do not care about the custodian thing. All I say about the lore is this: At the end of the day, all I want is that every Book series, Anime, Show, Game, and so on respects their own rules. This means that if a change is made such as: Tyranids are all of a sudden weak to poisons etc even though they were previously immune, or close to immune. And this is represented by a new mechanic being introduced where units are poisoned, and the tyranids get poisoned like everyone else, and die just the same. If this happened, all I want is an in universe explanation, rather than a "Nah, we changed it mate". Now I barely care about the Custodian thing, since I can not remember where it was stated that it was impossible, so there is not even one care from me. And even with the space marines where they give the genetics thing as a reason (and the warp also matters) I barely care, since the lore were written to justify the fact that Nerds did not want female characters and refused to buy them. The lore was not written for flavour, it was written so no would make the mistake of trying to sell something that would only cause angry mails to be written and sent by pigeon. And as Eric said: Warhammer 40k is one giant chain of retcons.
@Crosis101
@Crosis101 4 месяца назад
The Black Library banned ANY story from a Xenos perspective until Firewarrior was written….
@simonmiller5351
@simonmiller5351 5 месяцев назад
the crons had a scap lore in gorkamorka, some weird alliance with the diggas
@Dante45p
@Dante45p 5 месяцев назад
you know its bad when Matt Ward during the height of everyone hating him was the best Eldar writer
@demilembias2527
@demilembias2527 Месяц назад
Tau are definitely in the cringe zone in terms of current novel-length lore, but as a Tau fan who basically imagines them as the morally grey underdog protagonist of the galaxy, I'm not completely starved for options. The Tau have a decent selection of short story anthologies, and the author Peter Fehervahi in particular is extremely good at writing stories from their perspective and about the Imperium's complex relationship with them. So, if you want Tau lore, check his stuff out. There are also some good novels from the early 2000s when they were actually trying to push the Tau to new players.
@hsk4xx555
@hsk4xx555 5 месяцев назад
woke my family up at 3 a.m when I saw the channel hit 100k
@liefericson6496
@liefericson6496 5 месяцев назад
As someone who has read all 3 genestealer cultist books (and desperately wants more), I can say that Day of Ascension is the *most* gsc-focused of the 3, despite being around 60/40 gsc/admech. Cult of the Spiral Dawn is roughly 75/25 in favor of Guard, we just get the odd chapter showing the perspectives of some major cultists. Cult of the Warmason is around 40/40/20 Sisters / [SPOILERS, sort of I guess] Iron Warriors / GSC. Gsc showing up as a surprise enemy comprises more gsc literature than our actual books (when the sanctus showed up in Kingmaker, I pogged, I admit it)
@DiggingForFacts
@DiggingForFacts 5 месяцев назад
Regarding the Death Korps of Krieg, that spelling is probably from the fact that it is WWI-German-inspired. Krieg is the word for War (yes the DKoK hails from planet War) and Korps is the German spelling for Corps. There's even Bonus Grimdark Points if you pronounce it by emphasizing all letter in the word, taking it close to 'corpse' (although I'm not assuming that GW did that deliberately and it's just one of those coincidences). In German it's actually closer to 'Ko-ahr'.
@madmen2288
@madmen2288 5 месяцев назад
I don't know if I want more Orks books. I just want THAT quality of Orks books. Take your time GW, don't ruin it for a cheap buck.
@FinxOmally
@FinxOmally 5 месяцев назад
As a Harlequin and phoenix lord fan. It’s pretty abysmal how little amount of books we have seeing they’ve been around since the beginning of 40K being a thing. Jain Zar as a book was passable, I enjoyed listening to it and it managed to fit some Quins in, and even a visit to see Asdrubael Vect, which was cool! Even got to meet the other phoenix lords for 1 scene.. all are incredible characters. But nope, nothing since. Eldar have some awesome characters and lore but we get no books.. it just seems weird.
@olivisar
@olivisar 5 месяцев назад
"40k is made of retcons". Yes, but there are some good and bad ones, but mostly a good way and bad ways to go about it. The necrons retcon in 5th was good, it made the faction miles more interesting and brought some of the best characters into the setting. Female custodes was bad, it was lazy and a PR disaster, the internet wouldn't have gone in flame if they had not made this idiotic (and inacurate) tweet.
@ysbrann3059
@ysbrann3059 5 месяцев назад
the only idiot here is people no able to get over a in universe answer in a tweet asertign the retcon
@Kaelnovar
@Kaelnovar 5 месяцев назад
Tou guys completely forgot about an imperial faction, wheres the rogue teaders 😂
@TacDonut
@TacDonut 5 месяцев назад
I had so much hope for Nids going into the new edition. I need more cosmic horror adjacent bug stories!
@CannibalShinobi
@CannibalShinobi 5 месяцев назад
That is not a Chaos Knight in Brutal Kunnin. And I actually really enjoyed that part of the book because I loved hearing about what chaos deamons think of Orks.
@michaelsalyers9470
@michaelsalyers9470 5 месяцев назад
We need a tyranid book…318pages of scratch marks and drool. Some ichor and blood stains. Some growling and maybe some clicks.
@TrinityShoji
@TrinityShoji 5 месяцев назад
"RRRROAR" screamed the carnifex as the hivemind signals burrowed into its brain, pure instinct guided it as it crunched through the chitenous prey. An entire book written from the POV of random, unnamed tyranids and describes everything from their POV would be weird and interesting.
@splatsma
@splatsma 5 месяцев назад
Gotta hold back on the clicks, that was so last edition
@jeffrobagman2834
@jeffrobagman2834 5 месяцев назад
Nonono... it needs to be written by some drone that's partially disconnected from the hive somehow, some weird ass mutation. Oh, and he needs to write like Hemmingway! Or Dickens! I was the best if tines, it was the worst of times. Oh, don't get me wrong, the biomass was both sweet and savory. I must say though, that the conversation was lacking, to put it mildly
@nobodyimportant5417
@nobodyimportant5417 5 месяцев назад
​@@jeffrobagman2834Go full circle with satire-becoming-reality, and have it write a tyranid version of "a modest proposal".
@BiomechanicalBrick
@BiomechanicalBrick 5 месяцев назад
just make a genestealer cult book that leads up to and includes a tyranid invasion, boom problem solved
@Orpheus_Vault
@Orpheus_Vault 5 месяцев назад
Leman Russ used to be a Guardsman who discovered a very special tank. Please tell every Space Wolves player this.
@BlommaBaumbart
@BlommaBaumbart 5 месяцев назад
I think Leman Russ always was a Guardswoman, per recent press announcement.
@Fell-Handed_Bjorn
@Fell-Handed_Bjorn 5 месяцев назад
We know we just don't care
@BiomechanicalBrick
@BiomechanicalBrick 5 месяцев назад
​@@Fell-Handed_Bjornhow does it feel to be the most hated sm faction?
@MortalWombat047
@MortalWombat047 5 месяцев назад
​@@BiomechanicalBrick honestly I'm more of a fan of the loyalist chapters that have a tragic warrior schtick. I like the SW because super Vikings in space is cool. A psychic rage that transcends time and space for the blood angels. And the world eaters sad existence. I'm not saying they're the most joked on group but as a fan with thick skin my cool interesting dudes have way less to attack than flaming ultramarines for example all aside I know they are jokes i just hold someone who sees this ks scared to start a faction that jokes are. But jokes are jokes
@Fell-Handed_Bjorn
@Fell-Handed_Bjorn 5 месяцев назад
​@BiomechanicalBrick Pretty great I live rent free in every Thousand Sons players minds, they're just salty we kicked their shit in
@burnin8able
@burnin8able 5 месяцев назад
Shout-out to Guilleman who got less dead every edition going from not a thing at all to a bunch a bones, to dead (but in stasis) to "mortally wounded" and saved by stasis to maybe he's healing? maybe it's cope? to Cawl fixed him, problem solved.
@ewanhogg3068
@ewanhogg3068 5 месяцев назад
I mean the last few got it right - he *was* healing!
@vxicepickxv
@vxicepickxv 5 месяцев назад
He also went from being replacement primarch to always being the primarch.
@burnin8able
@burnin8able 5 месяцев назад
@@vxicepickxv Ultramarines also went from a second founding successor chapter to an OG legion.
@Sparkyinbozo-xe9fn
@Sparkyinbozo-xe9fn 5 месяцев назад
Yvraine is the one who fixed him, Cawl just kept him going.
@altromonte15
@altromonte15 5 месяцев назад
Couple more editions and Guilleman is going to become the Emperor
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