Rapunzel is a TERRIBLE friend (Tangled the Series Analysis) 

That's one way to see it! Great conclusion!

But I still think her naiveness is too exaggerated sometimes-

​@@tyathedude yeah, haha, she's way too positive!

Look, I agree... to a point. I mean sure, she has like, zero experience on making friends. But that wasn't a very long-termed excuse. Even I- who has lower social skills than Rapunzel- knows that abandoning your friend for three months when he made it clear he was quite possibly orphaned is not what a good friend would do. Hell, it's not what a decent human being would do. And honestly, I have very strong negative opinion about her for that. She was raised by an abusive person, but that doesn't give her an excuse to be abusive. Even if Varian wasn't her friend, he was still his subject, and she, as a princess, has some sort of responsibility to him, even if she doesn't want it. And even after Varian's "redemption" (which to me seemed a bit too forced and unatural to a point), she NEVER even apologizes to him. Like, not even once. "I know how much it hurts to have someone let you down" uhuh. And how is that even relevant? Varian didn't need someone to tell him his feelings were valid. He needed someone to rely on, emotionaly, mentally and for his basic needs.. He wasn't given that. Not by Rapunzel, Cass, Eugine, no one in the whole blasted kingdom, and that's what drove him to do what he did. An "I'm sorry, Varian. I let you down, I abandoned you to your own devices for about a year and a half (since QFAD to Rapunzel's return) and I didn't even have an excuse. I am going to make it up to you in some way" would be all it took to at least say she tried to fix her friendship with Varian, and Varian would be under no obligation to forgive her anyway. And even after that Rapunzel never just went or did anything with Varian if she didn't need anything from him. I'm just... not sure how she became a better friend in that way. (Cassandra's another can of worms and I'm not gonna dig that up today, lol)

@@areldyperez8446 Very good analysis! I like Rapunzel being faulty and making mistakes though. IMO, she's way more believable than in the movie. The writers could have gone the easy way and make this show a money grab, but they didn't. And the fact that we're discussing this 3 or 4 years later is a proof of that. But, as much as I love Raps and Cass (my two favorite characters), I have to admit Varian is the best character of the series.

Varian is WAY more mature than Rapunzel tbh

@@tyathedude he's like the most mature person in the series

Varian is better off living somewhere else, considering how neglectful Rapunzel and Frederick are

@@tyathedude That’s for sure. And he’s a teenager. He and Rapunzel start out on the same level of maturity and experience. But he’s the one who comes out experienced and mature. Rapunzel doesn’t grow or change at all.

@@DragonGoddess18 Definitely! I’m all for Varian moving to Avalor. Elena is a way better ruler and he’ll make better friends there. Friends who actually care about him.

True that!

I don't know if therapy existed in the time period that this show takes place in. Mental health was crappy or down right inhumane until the mid 20th century. King Frederick said he would get Varian help after he got arrested but I seriously doubt he meant it. If he did get sent to an asylum as a form of "help" I doubt it was humane at all. Honestly Rapunzel was a better friend to Cassandra than she was to Varian.

Hehe, fun fact: Varian also needed to have his basic needs suplied. Father trapped in ambar, neglegective so-called friends, being on the run for crimes you didn't comit... doesn't really paint a pretty picture. Although, I'm not sure how Cassandra feeling not worthy of something excuses attempted murder... but maybe that's just me, huh?

@@Passions5555 yep, but still terrible

@@areldyperez8446 agreed

Agreed! How dare she do that to our varian

@@tyathedude I know right?!?

VARIAN IS THE BEST AND RAPUNZEL SUCKS

@@sunset5802 nah bro we're just saying that she at least could've brought him with and not thrown him into a FREAKING DEADLY SNOWSTORM!

Finally someone agrees with me here I though the same thing. However most people always disagree and said she made the right choice. Which yes I understand she was playing the role of queen during that time however she could have sent someone with him to make aure he got home safe...to help analize the situation and maybe better explain what waa going on to varian's dad then varian was capable of doing so. And as you mentioned she could have atleast allowed him (knowing full well he probably wouldnt anyway) but to stay insidr where its safe then being forced out. Also love how they claim they don't lock up child (aka red and angry) yet they locked up varian. I understand he did wrong things at this time...however Rapunzel helped in some these and yes she may be the "princess" but come on sure if the princess anywhere else helped commit crime theyd be punished to. Yet she didnt. Then varian was locked up for who knows how long suffer assuming his father was basically encased forever and now the king queen and Rapunzel all know about it and still post pone it not even carrying to try different things to help out till later on during the series.

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True!

I agree with this. But the show was more interested in showing her being super well adjusted naturally than giving her social and personal issues do to being isolated her her whole life to work through and over come.

So true, I'm not saying I want Rapunzel to be perfect and flawless, which nobody is, but Eugene, her parents, and the others should have at least been trying to teach Rapunzel how to better understand friendship and know how to read people and see that life isn't all sunshine and rainbows out in the real world. And I don't think they were doing a good job at that, most of the time.

Varian is the true victim of the series

@@tyathedude honestly yeah

@@tyathedude Thats why he needs his spin-off.

@@drhappybanana8533 true! COME ON DISNEY GIVE US MORE VARIAN

agreed

Wow! this is the best analysis on Cassandra I have ever seen! Thank you for this, I really enjoyed reading it and I think you are right from a certain point of view.

@King Pistachion Cassandra is awesome 😎 her character just falters a bit in the finale season do to the awkward execution of her villain arc and the amount of episodes the writers had to pull it off in. I don't get why the finale season has the least amount of episodes to pull off the climax the plot threads of the first two seasons, when the point of the first two seasons was building up to moon Cassandra coming up against sun Rapunzel 🌗

@King Pistachion Wrong, Cassandra made a mistake sacrificing all her dreams and goals just for Rapunzel who doesn't listen or take her seriously, even outshines her at everything, whether she knows it or not, and doesn't even apologize for what happened to Cassandra's hand when she caused it to burn and Rapunzel kept making it all about her and scapegoating Cass like it's all on her, which it was not, so Cass had a right to be pissed off.

@@tyathedude It seemed like Rapunzel chose to side with Adira, a condescending jerk over Cassandra and acting like she should be alright with being cast aside and that her judgement about the tree is nothing more than slight paranoia and overprotection, when Cass had reasons to be suspicious about everything.

raps just needs therapy. That's all she really needs and the show is just keeping her from getting any

This! This comment is beautiful, I've been looking at it for 5 hours!

True

True or False?: Rapunzel or any victim of abuse, is incapable of learning how to behave properly.

@@DragonGoddess18 In defense of Rapunzel, she was learning how to get along, while carrying the responsibilities of eventually managing a kingdom. She was not in a normal friendship situation like any of us commonfolks.

@@BuizelCream That explains it but it was and is not a free pass. No one is incapable of learning.

I love that she at the very least had the awesomeness that is Pascal by her side while growing up.

rapunzel is the worst frie- german version Rapunzel: hold my hair

​@@tyathedude German version on Amazon-prime: Amateurs. German version Rapunzel (original release) has 2 episodes switched to after "queen for a day", and on Amazon-prime it's 5 episodes. I feel really sorry for anyone who watches that version without knowing about the changed order. Because their opinion of Rapunzel will probably drop quite a bit.

@@Tatokat all they did was put the five episodes between queen for a day and Not in the Mood, in proper production order. Here is the wikiperdia page for the seasons, look at the production codes of the intended episodes. Amazon prime put the series in production order en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Rapunzel%27s_Tangled_Adventure_episodes#Season_1_(2017%E2%80%9318)

​@@Passions5555 I'm pretty sure that a series episodes are not always created in the order they are supposed to be in. Just like how the scenes of a movie are produced in a different order than being shown in the finished product. Therefor for me, the original air date in the country where it was created/produced (in this case America) is the order in which it was supposed to be. So yes, Amazon put it in production order, but it is still not the order in which the episodes were supposed to be. Which was the entire point of my comment.

@@Tatokat yeah production order doesn't necessarily mean narrative order. However this should be made clear to other countries and platforms who are distributing the series on what order the series is supposed to be shown in. Because they are not out of line to air something in production order over the airing order even if the airing order is how the series was originally shown in the country of origin. Disney should be on top of that if they care about how it's intellectual property is shown to give it's audience the right feel of the series. That being said though, painter's block and not in the mood (the two episodes in between queen for a day and search for Varian) don't make Rapunzel look too good in how she chooses to dick around instead of looking in on Varian because at that point the threat of the storm was over and it is implied quite a bit of time has passed since the snow is gone and it seems yet another festival is going on since everyone is show casing their artistic abilities. I doubt a festival like the one shown in painters block would come right on the heals of a massive state of emergency where the capital had to be evacuated. So more than two or three weeks has gone by it would seem, so Rapunzel still comes off as negligent toward Varian's situation in these two episodes even without the extra (production order) episodes in there.

Agreed! She really seems out of character in tts

Yes i feel like tts really destroyed rapunzel's character. She was really understanding in the movie despite being in the castle for 18 years but tts made her really annoying

This is why I just stick with the movie

yeah i hated rapunzel for a while, and by the end had mixed feelings

I dislike rapunzel for that...

Actually if you rewatch the scene Rapunzel begged the guards not to hurt him and looked distraught. I think she was just overwhelmed at that moment. Mind you I am not excusing her for her actions during the whole thing but I think it is important to give her grace at least here.

@@Passions5555 Perhaps, but she still didn't discredited the falses rumors that Nigel was spreading, about that Varian "attacked her" (Quest for Varian), leading him to keeps a low profile for became an outcast and pariah in the kingdom, possibly aggravating even more his resentement against Rapunzel, for abandoned him in many aspects. Adding that in "One Angry Princess", Rapunzel put a lot effort to clear the name of Atilla, other friend of her, yet she forsaked Varian and didn't even bother in silences the falses rumors against him, showing that Rapunzel failed as friend in many ways.

Right, Rapunzel got betrayal by her friends as a result of her choices is her punishments. I think she knows has to bear them all as her own. Perhaps for a lifetime.

I mean while I don't fully agree with your explanation of why Raps wasn't there to help Varian after the storm (the painting episode thingy was understandable bc like you also said, ✨trauma✨, but the timeline pretty much implies that Raps ignored Varian's entire existence for 3 months after he barged in begging for help and that's just crappy friendship) I get your point about it. Tho imma have to ask you why you think she was punished. I mean yeah, angsty alchemy boi rly went nuts and prolly traumatized a bunch of people including Raps. But like, it was never really shown to us yk? It would've been brilliant imo if Raps was thinking about the attack from Varian and how she played a part in all of that, but what he did to the mains was pretty much forgotten by the plot. Also gonna put my thoughts on s1 tho lol, Varian had pretty darn valid points like; -The Sundrop flower rly was just sitting there and rotting, technically his Majesty Freddie also stole the flower :^ -The mains didn't care about him until he literally threatened them. -The rocks had to be stopped fast and Freddie sure as heck wasn't doing anything abt it. Not to mention, like, yk when Varian and Raps were going through the tunnels Varian said that Corona wasn't his main concern and that his main concern was his father? Raps was like "HoW cOUlD yOu???" Like bruh the kid pretty much implied at the beginning of the episode that he got attacked by said people just because of a rumour (that was probably created by Freddie or Nigel). WHY should he care about people like that? Of course his only family is going to be his priority. And Raps was pretty darn messed up for basically blaming him for prioritizing his dad over his abusers. So yea not gonna rant any longer lmao Edit: Just remembered the fact that QFAD was actually meant to air earlier but the episode list was kinda changed, so yea in reality Raps didn't only ignore Varian bc of snowstorm trauma lol. I think some episodes like the Ruthless Ruth were supposed to be after QFAD but I don't remember exactly which episodes 😅

@@Gzd. You have great points too. Although, I honestly think Rapunzel forgetting about Varian after Queen for A Day doesn't make sense only if we consider that they are actually friends, but I don't fully believe Raps and Varian actually were. If Rapunzel has a priority list of people in her life, Varian sadly was not really part of it. But because of Rapunzel's general kindness to Varian before the events of Queen for A Day, it made Varian see her as a friend he can trust (and also since Raps is a Princess making it feel more special), but sadly Varian hasn't really earned Rapunzel's fullest attention since they met in EP 1. I would even argue that Cassandra was the one who won Varian's trust more (EP: Great Expotations), but we all know Cassandra wouldn't prioritize even Varian in her life still. And Rapunzel could've began to contact Varian more after they knew that the rocks were still growing and in pursuit after her, but it seemed that she somehow never found the time to have a secret mission independent from her father's blessing (since Raps fully leaned onto being obedient to her dad's strict request to not talk about the rocks and the magic since Before Ever After). (If Rapunzel even failed Pascal, her closest friend since she met him from the tower, because she was so busy with her royal life in that one episode that it made Pascal feel so neglected, it sure wasn't surprising Raps had already forgotten Varian as well, despite Great Expotations' final scene of the rocks.) (And also Disney probably wanted more standalone episodes that could rerun in Disney Channel, makes sense why most of Season 1 unfortunately was designed to seem to have "forgotten" its plot during its run. That bugged me so much back in 2017! 😅) So when Queen for a Day happened for what it was, Rapunzel had more to lose if she abandoned the kingdom just for Varian's emergency request to rescue his dad during the storm. I would even argue it wasn't Rapunzel's decision to throw Varian away immediately, but it was Nigel overseeing her. Rapunzel just wasn't strongwilled enough to take control of the matter yet, as she would've done if Queen for a Day had Season 3 Rapunzel. I have no idea where Queen for a Day was originally gonna be arranged, but I'm glad they placed it during the later half instead, making Rapunzel's hesitant to take action for Varian ended up with a shorter time frame, being S1's canon interpretation and the better one. (But then again, Disney probably still wanted a few standalone episodes after that winter special, so the writers could only allude to Varian planning in the background, unable to design post-QFAD episodes of Rapunzel taking action to meet Varian herself till the very final 3 climactic episodes starting The Quest for Varian.) So, it makes more sense Rapunzel (and Cassandra and Eugene) has not taken Varian seriously until those finale episodes because they never really saw Varian as this important kid and a friend worthy of their full attention. (Probably also due to Disney's mandates for more standalone episodes independent of the plot, so the writers had no choice but to roll with it and made an arc of Varian being this neglected kid, instead of doing an Avatar the Last Airbender thing writing Varian being more involved throughout the season somehow). Thus, because Rapunzel was written to not have a close bond with Varian, not really, it makes sense she didn't take sides with him when Varian wanted to prioritize his dad over the kingdom during their underground quest to the castle's vault to snatch the flower's remains. And Rapunzel also made sense to be initially worried about her standing with her father when they broke the law. She wanted to halt Varian then and convince him that they'd find another way, with Rapunzel desperately making promises, but it was too late for Varian to trust any of that. And also while it was a bad decision for King Frederick to ignore the threat of the rocks till the last minute, but he wasn't written because he was stupid about it. He tried to eliminate the rocks discreetly and putting the whole kingdom in ignorance of its presence, but he failed. He wanted her daughter to have her happily ever after after her years in the tower, but those rocks were a threat to that ideology, and he failed to stop its growth and the threat of the unknown that comes with it. (I have to admit, the writers did really well with their limitations to write an arc of this with her dad about pretending every's fine and perfect during the 1st season since Disney wanted more standalone episodes for it, so they wrote the rocks as this distant treat to allow the characters take advantage of the many standalone episodes they were given by focusing on developing relationships and their place in the kingdom through the lens of Rapunzel believing she really is in her happily ever after, thus explains a lot of hesitation going on with their involvement of the plot, and brilliantly wrote a coming of age antagonist through Varian instead.) Also, this has gone to long and maybe rambly, so I'll stop here. 😅

@@BuizelCream Ooh wow you make great points as well! Now let me agree to disagree and continue this battle of who can rant the longest lmaooo. I somehow agree with your point about Raps not seeing Varian as a friend. Sooo why "somehow"? Now I do think Raps saw Varian as a friend, but mostly because since she was stuck in a tower her whole life and her sense of reality is a little screwed lol. What I mean is I feel like she'd think of anyone who's nice to her as a friend, while not thinking of them as what friends actually are yk? Meanwhile Varian (thankfully) doesn't have a trauma like Raps' but he's clearly an outcast in Old Corona, so he'd also quickly become attached to people (I'd know haha #beingtheoutcastsuckslol) soooo we already have a pretty messed up "friendship" dynamic at hand already 💀. The main issue I have with her not checking on Varian after the storm is the morality of it all. Let's assume that they didn't become friends and are merely people that just know each other (saying this because they both thought of each other as friends, their words to each other in s3 ep1 confirms that, let's assume that they don't feel like that for this lol). So this random child runs in desperately during a snowstorm, begging for help because his father's life is in danger, and I mean BEGGING, and as Raps is in the middle of a crisis she can't do much. Hence Varian getting thrown out. Actually we don't even know if Varian was thrown out of the castle. It's been a while since I watched the series, but they were moving the Coronan survivors into the castle for safety right? Maybe the guards tried to take Varian to where the other citizens are but he ran back home in panic because his dad was dying? Well ANYWAYS back on topic 🤡- So Varian runs back home and finds his pops' corpse, swears revenge ect... Now I don't have any issues with Raps freezing there. Her reaction was natural and understandable. I'd probably lock myself in some room and start sobbing 💀. But the issue comes from her not checking up on Varian AFTER the storm. Like you said, they aren't exactly "friends". But Rapunzel has shown that she does way more for people she sees even less. For example the time she spent 24 hours making sure that Atilla doesn't get sent away. Yk the Monthy's shop theft episode. Compared to that getting on a horse to check up on someone doesn't seem as difficult. More on that habbit of hers in the s2 and s3 episodes but not opening that can of worms 🤡 (I refuse to re-watch those) Another thing is, at the end of QFAD Rapunzel does acknowledge the fact that she had to turn down Varian. It's not like she immediately forgot about the begging desperate child. And again, no blame on her for not immediately going after him, she needed a damn break after the whole snowstorm thing (even Pascal got a fake-death like talk abt trauma) but she acknowledged the fact that she had to turn Varian away, and then proceeded to ignore him in the following months. Like you can't tell me something like that would be forgettable. Nor would Rapunzel be able to sit on it for so long. She's shown as someone who literally has the urge to help people. No matter their friendship level, she's wrong for ignoring a child in need, a person she *considered* a friend (which is implied even more in The Alchemist Returns and also in Rapunzel Returns). Yes, her views regarding friends is pretty messed up because of her past. But that SHOULD'VE been adressed in the story instead of solely blaming Varian for everything that happened then. And no her issues with the Cass friendship is different so she doesn't learn much from this one. Not making Rapunzel acknowledge the fact that she didn't think of a friend the way friends actually do makes it look like she just abandoned a friend in need for months. And the show pretty much implies that they don't think of each other as mere strangers or acquaintances but as friends in the later episodes. (S3 Ep1 Raps: "We were friends") By the way regarding the timeline... QFAD was meant to be placed earlier (stuff like the Ruthless Ruth were supposed to be after QFAD, which basically means that Raps ignored a desperate child and went on to have fun ect) BUT we'll take the current version as the og. The 1st season begins 6 months after Raps returned and ended on the day of her birthday. So s1 pretty much lasts for 6 months. QFAD (according to the writers) happens right in the middle-time of the series. So basically 3 months after the series began. Heck even if we ignore that it's pretty much given that Raps' birthday is either at around May 12th (tweet from Jared Bush) or around Midsummer (tho I don't think this is true as 6 months after that would pretty much be winter) QFAD happened in the middle of winter and if we go on from this logically then the picture we get is even more chilling. Because there's an even longer time between mid-winter and May 12th than just 3 months. Tho that is mostly the fault of the writers as they suck at handling timelines (example; the episode with Lance and Eugene robbing Ariana 8 years before the timeline and looking exactly the same, yet in that time travel episode in which they are teenagers ,since Eugene is canonically 26 at that point in the story that'd be like 8-9 years ago, looking like babified versions if themselves with acne issues lol) So in our hands we have a princess who ignored a begging child that she canonically didn't forget about and actively avoiding checking on him or failing to at least ask anyone else to reach out to him and see if he's alright after all that. You can't tell me that there isn't *anyone* for that. She's the *princess* she has some power for sure???? But I can understand her not being able to handle this well because of her past. The issue is, this was never adressed in the show and like I said before, Varian took the entire blame even though the blame doesn't solely lay on him. And the reason Varian was seen less isn't because they couldn't do that. Chris (the writer) actively hated Varian's popularity. He also harrased people because of that and got kicked out of numerous groups because of said harrasment. Varian was supposed to have more appearances in s2 as well but said scenes got scrapped despite the protests from some of the other crew members. Heck if I remember correctly pretty much the entirety of s2 was scrapped and re-written bc of that. The harrasment things regarding Varian are still accessable on the internet, I put the links in another comment. Now the Frederic part... He sent guards after an ,at the time, completely innocent kid. It's pretty much impied that the guards chased Varian OUT OF HIS OWN HOME. And again it is implied that he played a part with the rumors regarding Varian, which would cause him to have even more problems with evading the guards. I don't care if he did it because he wanted his daughter safe and happy. Indirect abuse is still abuse. If we look at it like that than technically Varian did the same, only his violence was direct unlike Frederic's. They harmed pretty much the same amount of people for the safety of a loved one (Frederic doomed an entire village, like some of those rocks went through houses. You can't tell me that if this show was an anime and not a cartoon that people wouldn't have ended up getting stabbed by some of those rocks) doing crappy things for a loved one doesn't make those actions right. Varian was cornered and desperate (we're talking about a king that sent a tailor to the stocks for messing up his robe like you can't tell me the kid didn' fear for his life) so I can understand him, but his actions were wrong. The moment he attacked Raps on her birthday he truly crossed the line. Tho he was really just dealt a crappy hand 💀. Meanwhile Frederic had chances to take better steps yet didn't because he wanted to keep his secret. Frederic's victims were random people while Varian's victims were his abusers or the enablers of his abuse (Frederic, Nigel, the guards, Raps... sans Ariana but even that is questionable). So in this way it's also way easier for me to symphatise with Varian than Frederic. So generally my issue is with the writing I suppose. The show focuses too much on the promise and not on Raps' bigger screw ups because it doesn't want to put it's main in a bad spot -thanks to Chris- . And sorry for the rambling that is my comment 😭 I was busy yesterday so I was just writing and stopping and writing again so it became a jumbled mess 💀.

It was for both reasons. Finding out about her mother was the straw that broke the camel's back.

I know you don’t mean looks wise, honestly I’m surprised not more people saw it coming. But yeah, they played that the wrong way. It could of worked had it been handled differently, buuut….

El problema es que en toda la temporada lo hicieron ver como un simple "en serio estás molesta con Rapunzel por haber sido secuestrada de bebé?", es cierto que ese fue el empujón para terminar de desatar la ira de Cassandra, pero durante las dos temporadas anteriores Rapunzel no demostró ser empática o comprensiva con ella, y si lo hizo fue porque se dio cuenta de que estaba haciendo algo mal. Vamos, le quemó el brazo y ni parecía ser consciente de ello, no hizo nada por arreglar su amistad hasta que Cassandra la traicionó y ahí recién tuvo el raciocinio suficiente como para entender que estaba tomando acciones equivocadas, y tampoco es que ahí se haya esforzado mucho para entender los motivos de Cass

IKR why couldnt she go visit Varian when she could?

(it really wasn't Varian's fault Quirin got trapped on ambar, Rapunzel did ask him to investigate the rocks and he was just following orders from the princess). YEAH!! I mean, sure, there's an emergency n' all, but maybe just don't throw the boy into the same deadly snowstrorm you're prottecting the rest of the coronians from??? Also, I did the math, and she didn't stay there for two weeks, it was almost about three months. Since Before Ever After happened six months since the movie, and the movie was in Rapunzel's birthday which is in May, since six months passed, Before Ever After would be around October. Basing off the seasonal changes of Germany (where Corona's supposed to be located), October would be around mid-fall. Some time passed, and I wondered, why was no one questioning the snow on QFAD? Probably because it was likley to snow in that time of year, which leads me to conclude Queen For A Day was around the beggening of Winter, around December. Or it could be earlyer than that and no one in the kingdom thought to question why was it snowing. Take your pick. Oooor, it could be by the end of winter, if that's so the writers failed to show us winter-ly stuff. I'm taking it that QFAD was by mid winter, around February, thus it was completley normal for it to be snowing. And we know "The Quest For Varian", "The Alchemist Returns" and "Secret of the Sundrop" were all quickly rushed, and that last one was by Rapunzel's birthday, in May again. What does that leave us? Half of February, March, April and beggenings of May. Roughly three whole months, and that's being generous with the show. Yes I am aware I ranted I am so sorry (not really, no) but I feel like Varian's neglegect is being SO overlooked.

@@areldyperez8446 👍👌

I'd say it was 4 people's fault: freddie: no explanation needed. Takes 3/6 of the blame rapunzel: disobeyed her father, snuck out and touched the black rocks causing them to spread. 1/6 of the blame cassandra: led rapunzel out disobeying her king, did nothing when she tried to touch the rocks. 1/6 of the blame Varian: no explanation needed. 1/6 of the blame

@@silent935 Why Varian?

I TOTALLY agree! Many things in the series could have been avoided only if Rapunzel opened her ears for her friends

Believe, me you're not the only one who feels this way of how Rapunzel takes Cassandra for granted by siding with Adira over her, and treating her like a scapegoat, making everything all about her feelings and that Cass is the one at fault for everything that happened to her. It always has to be about her alone with every bad situation, that's the problem with her.

Too many days I wish that not only therapists existed in Corona but also for Rapunzel to open up her mind to possiblity that she's wrong about things, open herself up to improve herself and her behavior and listen to others for real

@@DragonGoddess18 I can't stand listening to blind fools focused more on hating Cassandra and babying Rapunzel, showing the meaning of condescending.

I love what you said! You didn't go to far if raps is a jurk she should be called on it

And the fact she's really understanding in the movie unlike in the series makes me think tts destroyed her character

@@tyathedude Yeah, in the early parts of the first season, it seemed like Rapunzel was willing to learn but as the show went on,she just stopped learning,she stopped considering that she was wrong about anything. It's one thing for her to be oblivious of the social cues and customs of Corona and other lands, it's another for her to be a "right fighter"

@@DragonGoddess18 Eugene, her parents, and everyone else should have been teaching Rapunzel, or at least trying to teach her communication with people and understanding friendship to know when she hurt someone accidentally or what, and not be condescending in trying to make it all about her every time.

@@Disneyfan82 Agreed 💯 Cass and Eugene were (kinda) teaching her in "Rapunzel's Enemy" even then she barely listened. But yeah, I wish they did teach her more about social customs and cues but she picked up a lot of her condescending attitude from Gothel. That explains it but it's not a permanent free pass. Plus, Arianna said a couple times "I trust [Rapunzel's] judgement",so that kinda explains why she never taught Rapunzel anything. Rapunzel may be nice sometimes but she was a right-fighter, barely thought things through and anyone who called her out on her poor behavior, at best, she glares and throws a hissy fit or denies it. She never learned,she never developed as a character (Ironic for a "coming of age" story).

I agree!

I hate that so many, blind fools only look at one side of the argument regarding Cassandra's fall to darkness, yet defend Varian all the way like a bunch of naive hypocrites. They failed to pay attention to the fact that Cassandra had every right to be pissed off at Rapunzel who kept making everything all about her after not taking any fault for burning her friends arm.

@@Disneyfan82 Exactly.

Exactly 💯 Rapunzel is a fair-weathered friend

@@Disneyfan82The reason people defend Varian rather than Cassandra is because Varian’s arc was better written. Not to say that Cassandra’s problems with Rapunzel weren’t Also valid, because they were. Her arc was just written poorly, So she comes off as unsympathetic.

@@tesslichtman7302 It's still idiotic and hypocritical, so that's not all true, not when she had every right to be pissed off with Rapunzel's idiotic condescending attitude towards her which haters choose to blindly ignore.

All those times Rapunzel acted like a condescending idiotic tool, I wanted to slap her constantly for always making every bad situation all about her and wished that someone would scream in her face about the times she justifies her reckless choices and makes a scapegoat of the other like Cassandra who had every right to be pissed off.

Indeed Rapunzel in the show, frustrated me to no end Even when others were telling how the world works, she just didn't listen and wanted to do things her way.

@@Disneyfan82 Agreed! TTS Rapunzel is the worst!

@@jonelrobinson582 Finally someone who sees the worst of Rapunzel in this show

Realest comment I've seen in a while

@@tyathedude 🥂

Well maybe Raps should not have been dumb enough to choose Adira over listening to Cassandra or even pick the incantation spell instead of using the spear.

Just because it was unintentional doesn’t make it any less crappy or make her any less of a bad friend. Especially considering how they didn’t really address her actions from what I’m hearing. Which is what makes it unsympathetic for me. Being abused does NOT give you a free pass to do crappy things. Woe is her… It can make her actions understandable but they don’t excuse them. Especially when it causes people this much pain and betrayal. To be clear I’m mostly talking about the varian thing. The class stuff is a weird mixed bag to me. The mother gothel stuff I don’t blame Raps for. I fail to see how any of that is Raps fault not just because of the abuse she’s suffered but also because raps didn’t really doing anything. I mean I get why cass would hate raps since she might not know the full story. (Idk if she does) But it’s not raps’ fault. The tree stuff prior with Adira made me lose more respect for her though from what I remember of it at least. It should also be noted that bad friend is not synonymous with bad person. I don’t think raps is a bad person. But she isn’t a good friend.

I'm glad we think alike! The show really destroyed Rapunzel's character by making her a terrible person in general

I completely agree! There definitely was a better way to handle her character...

@@tyathedude Yeah to be honest I think Disney Television Animation went waaay too far with Rapunzel’s character to change her kind, free spirited friendly personality to a angry hot tempered tyrant on the show because she doesn’t apologize, she’s controlling, she’s bossy, she doesn’t care about her husband or her friends and family’s feelings and emotions, she doesn’t get help with her anger issues, and she’s also a toxic narcissist

No it doesn't. It's still so annoying how others continue to coddle and baby Rapunzel like she can do no wrong at all.

That's a great idea!

That's one way to see it... Very nice analysis!

@@tyathedude Thanks.

It never would have happened if the others were not always coddling and babying Rapunzel like she did nothing wrong before or can do no wrong. Cassandra knows how condescending and Idiotic Rapunzel acts, so there is hardly ever a point in talking to someone who would rather trust a complete stranger like Adira over their close friend

@@Disneyfan82 I guess you kinda got a good point there. But Adira was their only guide who could help them. If you remember back in Before Ever After she was getting corrections from her father. I don’t think anyone was really correcting her during season 2 very much.

@@kkstar1297 Maybe, but she was still a complete stranger that disrespected Cass as a servant girl and I would have pushed Raps away and told her to get outta my face and go play with her new friend that she chose and defended over me.

Thank you so much!

@@tyathedude you're welcome ^^

So did I!

Me too.

AND how she treated Eugene. Cass was the new one in Rapunzel's life. Why was Eugene getting the short end of the stick?

@@metalspinda9594 thanks for reminding me of my tangled phase

Same here including her character in the show's 3rd season.

That's one way to see it... But like I said in the video, I think her lack of social skills is too exaggerated because she was really understanding in the movie unlike in the series

You can be understandable in why you do something and ultimately be a bad friend. While she may have understandable reasons motives and backstory to sympathize with it, Raps still acted as a bad friend and screwed up one of her supposed friends horribly and I personally don’t think that should be downplayed at all Being abused and having good intentions doesn’t give you a free pass to do something crappy.

I get that Rapunzel has no friendship experience the first time which is one thing, but what she did to Cassandra there was uncalled for.

Haha same!

Ikr this problem could have been easily fixed but guess writers are kinda just lazy

Yet, this don't justifies that Rapunzel didn't discredited that falses rumors that Nigel was spreading, about that Varian "attacked her" (Quest for Varian), leaving him as an outcast and pariah in the kingdom, to the point of be forced to keeps a low profile (The Alchemist Retuns). Especially to considers that in "One Angry Princess", Rapunzel put a lot effort for clear the name of Atilla, a friend of hers, yet she failed in do the same with Varian, leaving the alchemist by his own after be falsely accused by Nigel. Meaning that Rapunzel is still a terrible friend.

True! Cassaandra was as bad friend as Rapunzel in season 3

@@tyathedude yep

but cassandra wasnt her friend in season 3

@@tyathedude You don't seem to get that Rapunzel was being condescending by not listening to Cassandra and making her feel like a scapegoat with every bad thing happening.

Agreed. Rapunzel and Cassandra were both bad friends to each other, and everyone else around them.

I don't hate obiwan as much as i hate rapunzel but interesting

Obi-Wan did emotionally manipulate Anakin in the worst way in season 4 and didn't apologize on-screen, just said "I did what I had to do" Even a Sith would have more self-awareness than Obi-Wan

@@DragonGoddess18 obiwans one of my favorite star wars characters along with ahsoka and mara jade but damn I'd have to agree on this one

Agreed! I personally enjoyed the show overall, but the biggest problem I have is how awful rapunzel is compared to the movie

That wouldn't be a problem, feel free to do so!

@@tyathedude Thank you

Fair point!

Honestly, same!

@@tyathedude I feel like Rapunzel’s personality works better in the movie, sure she showed naivety and kindness but they were done in a way that felt realistic and she was overly naive like Rapunzel in series. Movie Rapunzel imo showed off more spunk and ingenuity than tv Rapunzel, sure tv Rapunzel does exhibit the spunk and ingenuity but her kindness and naivety are cranked up to 11 even more than movie Rapunzel

@@tyathedude For some reason, I feel so weirded out by the voice acting and inflections between the series and movie, I strangely prefer the voice of movie Rapunzel over the show one

But the guards who were under her control did...

Perhaps not, but she still didn't stop the guards to kicks Varian out, in the storm. Adding that she didn't also discredited the falses rumors that Nigel was spreading, about that Varian "attacked" the princess, leaving him as pariah, and forced to keeps a low profile.

​@@tyathedude it was Nigel he's the one who called them

Agreed

All Cass really needed was recognition and a true friend... Rapunzel failed to give her neither of these two

Thanks!

She would die-

@@tyathedude 1. Queen Ariana and Rap died 2. Cass died (because she thought her mother was still visiting Corona and died from hunger) 3. The king suffer from depression 4. Eugene remain as a theif. He was caught and sent to death sentence. 5.Varian died after trying to stop the underground machine. 6. Lady Caine takeover Corona 7. Zhan Tiri takeover the world. The world was covered with snow. 8. What a "Happy" tangled ever after.

Thank YOU for watching!

No, thank YOU for watching!

I feel a bit bad that the villain arcs in Rapunzel's show made some people feel bitter towards her. Making sympathetic, formally good guys swing against your protagonist and become villains is truly risky from a writing perspective since you run the risk of the audience siding with the villains, who have been emotionally invested in the formally good character now bad, because you got to know them first as good people first. And if their turn to the dark side is personal do to feeling slighted by the main character that may or may not be justified, you really need to execute that delicately and make ALL party's accountable and called out on their behavior... especially if you want them redeemed down the line. If fans go, I hate the main character now they are a jerk, something got messed up there. Rapunzel is a great character, I still love her in both the movie and the series and it's sad her series didn't give her character the glow up she is deserved.

That's a good question there. You can also blame everyone else for coddling and babying Rapunzel too much that they don't call her out enough on how she has treated Varian and Cassandra.

TRUE!

@@Disneyfan82 Well when Rapunzel showed her flaws like when she gives her father guest a bear hug revealing to Eugen and Cassandra she does not know what the word Boo means that is the sign to Eugen and her Parents that they should try talking to her more and help her understand how the world works and find out how many words she is no familiar with.

@@christophermaccool8029 They should have done that more often and not expect her to learn it all on her own without guidance.

@@Disneyfan82 I agree communication is the answer.

No they are not stupid. They are justified and understanding as Rapunzel never apologized to Cassandra for acting like a condescending idiot who acts like she knows everything and everyone else is wrong for not agreeing with her.

@@Disneyfan82 Indeed and the motivations were there and I do know and understand why Cass left Rapunzel. What I don't understand is why the show stuck with "My mother ditched me for Rapunzel" part. I mean,yeah, being abandoned sucks and all but it wasn't the only reason she was pissed at Rapunzel.

@@DragonGoddess18 Of course that was not the only reason why she left and betrayed Rapunzel, but some fools don't even get that and were not paying attention to the other reasons before that.

@@Disneyfan82 True Rapunzel was a sucky friend to her, and that’s what the writers should have picked as her motive for going villian not “Gothel chose Rapunzel over me” or at least give the former more focus

@@TooningIn2008 Well it wasn't just the fact that Gothel left Cassandra behind. It was only a matter of time before the other reasons in Rapunzel's condescending naive attitude would only set her off again as she never owned up to her mistakes and might have continued to make excuses for it and scapegoat Cassandra.

Eugene and the others should have been doing a better job with teaching Rapunzel how to understand friendship and that the world doesn't revolve around her alone.

You hate her just because Varian had a crush on her?

@@Disneyfan82 i used to hate her now she’s my second favourite and me 2 years ago really liked Varian

Thank you so much! Be sure to share this to your friends so they can be convinced 👀

Glad you agree!

@@tyathedude your welcome

I guess that's fair!

hahaha

...yes

@@tyathedude parece que para a história precisaram descaracterizar a Rapunzel

Haha, crazy how unlikable she has become compared to the movie!

@@tyathedude movie Raps would never do what show Raps did

@@WhatDoIUseForHandle Facts! TTS Rapunzel is a selfish brat.

@@jonelrobinson582 Rapunzel would slap the shit out of Series Raps with her frying pan😭

Very interesting take!

I doubt she's autistic because of her behavior. Not all autistic people define her actions

​@@Disneyfan82 Much less defends her actions. Whether she really is on the spectrum or not,it doesn't matter. Eugene,her parents and Cass did little to teach about how the world works and Rapunzel doesn't really want to learn (much)

@@DragonGoddess18 I hate to think if this is how autistic people are defined by Rapunzel's behavior in the show which is rather stereotypical to mention or bring up. I may be autistic but I'm not this ignorant when it comes to reading people or understanding their feelings.