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RARE: Colts leave Baltimore overnight. - Baltimore Colts The Long Goodbye VHSrip March 1984
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I recorded this live at the time in 1984 when the Colts snuck out with all the moving trucks early in the morning.
Colts leave Baltimore overnight. On March 28, 1984, Baltimoreans all found out that football is business and Bob Irsay was moving his business to Indianapolis.
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@appalachianenthusiast9499
@appalachianenthusiast9499 Год назад
Baltimore's "offer" was eminent domain, no wonder Irsay got out of town
@belcherman
@belcherman 7 лет назад
I have a lot of old stuff like this, I have had a VCR since 1983 and recorded tons of sports among other things; will be posting more soon.
@hoss73ford
@hoss73ford 7 лет назад
Thanks for taping this almost 33 years ago. A valuable piece of history that might otherwise be lost.
@georgeharleydavidsonrider156
@georgeharleydavidsonrider156 5 лет назад
belcherman Please do . Thanks Brother.
@w41duvernay
@w41duvernay 5 лет назад
Ah, the old tv 80's tech. Before Sportscenter, we had George Micheal's Sportsmachine.
@BlueLineKing7
@BlueLineKing7 3 года назад
Do you by chance have the last Colts home game in 83 vs Oilers?
@howard1852
@howard1852 2 года назад
Thanks old man
@nocturnalmayhem0
@nocturnalmayhem0 3 года назад
how does this not have more views this is a f'in gem of history, amazing upload
@DavidZetino
@DavidZetino Год назад
Cause only US cares about it
@adamdorgant9454
@adamdorgant9454 Год назад
I was wondering the same thing!!!
@4lifeReagan
@4lifeReagan 6 лет назад
Love this piece of history, thanks for posting!!!
@adamdorgant9454
@adamdorgant9454 2 года назад
You’re right about that!!
@marcodiaz6thman252
@marcodiaz6thman252 Год назад
Irsay was really a trend setter for today's NFL owners "You build me a new venue or I'm going somewhere else"
@geraldvanhees779
@geraldvanhees779 Год назад
Corporate welfare!!!!!
@johneddy908
@johneddy908 Год назад
I think it's time for Colts fans to say these words to Jim Irsay - SELL THE TEAM!
@adamdorgant9454
@adamdorgant9454 Год назад
True!!!
@zerimar26
@zerimar26 9 месяцев назад
Actually it was Al Davis.
@27273100
@27273100 2 года назад
I can *NEVER* forget that. Like Modell, Irsay was in the crosshairs of angry fans' wrath. Both will always be on the side of infamy.
@lonniestephens6254
@lonniestephens6254 Год назад
What Bob Irsay did to the people of Baltimore, MD was unforgiving!
@1notredamefightingirishfan12
@@lonniestephens6254 I would've done that too
@paulmicheldenverco1
@paulmicheldenverco1 9 месяцев назад
@@lonniestephens6254 What would you'd expect from anybody who is under threat of having one's business seized.
@joshowenby6408
@joshowenby6408 5 лет назад
It's been almost 35 years now & I STILL cannot get used to saying "Indianapolis Colts."
@cellmate1
@cellmate1 3 года назад
Don’t worry. We will say it for you.
@arthurhall8238
@arthurhall8238 3 года назад
@@cellmate1 - Please do...best thing to happen to Baltimore...we have 2 SBs...
@cellmate1
@cellmate1 3 года назад
@@arthurhall8238 yes you did. And you did it with the team you took from Cleveland
@arthurhall8238
@arthurhall8238 3 года назад
@@cellmate1 -um no....INCORRECT. The team that came from Cleveland was in cap hell...so much so that the team couldn't even afford a taxi squad. AND the team was horrible the first 3 years in Baltimore..we had to get rid of most of the horrible players before we were even competitive...so, no, sorry...WRONG
@HouseWashingRick
@HouseWashingRick 2 года назад
@@cellmate1 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@jimdruckenmiller8731
@jimdruckenmiller8731 4 года назад
Thanks! This is a rare glimpse at a strange episode in nfl history.
@doolindanger2459
@doolindanger2459 5 лет назад
Hmmm, play in a dump with empty seats in a city trying to take the team away from you by imminent domain - OR - move to a city with a brand new stadium offering you a 20 year free lease. Gee, I can't imagine why the Colts moved.
@adamdorgant9454
@adamdorgant9454 4 года назад
Doolin Danger Looking back on it now, Baltimore Deserved to lose the Colts, and why, the City of Baltimore no longer supported the team, and also, the City of Baltimore was Stupid enough not to built a new Stadium for the Colts!!!
@rockvilleraven
@rockvilleraven 4 года назад
Doolin Danger Or why a city who loses two baseball teams like Washington, takes one from a Canadian city like Montreal and wins the World Series.
@robkrieg8301
@robkrieg8301 4 года назад
I think they should be paying for their own stadiums, fucking billionaires asking for handouts is sickening, hell the taxpayers in st louis are stuck with the bill for their stadium while the rams moved on to siphon tax dollars off of LA.
@bluerisk
@bluerisk 4 года назад
@@robkrieg8301 How, if the legislation blocks it?! "During the 1974 elections, Pressman had an amendment to the city's charter placed on the fall ballot. Known as Question P, the amendment called for declaring "the 33rd Street stadium as a memorial to war veterans and prohibiting use of city funds for construction of any other stadium." The measure passed 56 percent to 44 percent, and the same political motivations that had been used to upgrade Baltimore Stadium, originally built in 1922, in the late 1940s and rename it Memorial Stadium, effectively destroyed any chance of a new, modern sports complex being built in Baltimore."
@robkrieg8301
@robkrieg8301 4 года назад
@@bluerisk that blocked any chance of the tax payers footing the bill, it has nothing to do with them paying for their own stadium. On top of the fact that Indianapolis had to foot the bill since baltinore wouldnt. Tell me how that refutes anything I said? And Baltimore isn't the only case of this bullshit, why cant all those billionaire pay for their own stadiums?
@rockvilleraven
@rockvilleraven 4 года назад
Ironically enough, as part of Indianapolis deal, the city gave him 10 years of guaranteed sellouts which meant he wasn’t forced to put a winner there.
@MrTommyg024
@MrTommyg024 7 лет назад
As a Sonics fan from Seattle, I unfortunately can relate to the pain and betrayal Colts fans felt back in '84. I'm glad Baltimore eventually got a football team back though.
@fundude4566
@fundude4566 6 лет назад
MrTommyg024 Seattle deserves a nba team and a NHL team
@MrTommyg024
@MrTommyg024 6 лет назад
Thanks. I sincerely appreciate that comment.
@MGAF688
@MGAF688 6 лет назад
Yeah, but Baltimore benefited from Cleveland's loss. That said, Seattle needs both the NBA and NHL. Seattle is a large populated area that can support 4 pro teams.
@johnnyfive222
@johnnyfive222 5 лет назад
Montana Roots You are acting like it's Baltimore fans fucking fault. It's the NFL' fault all of it. They didn't allow Baltimore to have an expansion they were to lazy to make another team so they gave them the browns. There were a lot of Colts fans in Baltimore that felt bad about that. It took the joy out of them in gaining a team back. Don't act like the fans were hypocrites. At least you kept the damn colors and name. Baltimore didn't get that.
@44style1
@44style1 5 лет назад
Shawn Kemp!!!
@Russ_Hoops
@Russ_Hoops 5 лет назад
I grew up in Maryland but was never a Colts fan. However I remember that night well. IIRC the only reason the Colts were caught trying to sneak out was because of reporter was driving home from work, took a detour and saw the steam from the trucks and the lights on in the building.
@maxpuppy96
@maxpuppy96 9 месяцев назад
I don't blame Irsay for leaving Baltimore, they had every chance to keep them in Baltimore and the city did not step up. Memorial stadium was a dump. Things were moving forward in the NFL and teams were getting new stadiums and financial support from cities they resided in.
@christopherdonaldson7484
@christopherdonaldson7484 4 года назад
Keep in mind the Orioles in 1983 just won the World Series. Jim Palmer's last in his career and had been part of all three titles (1966, 1970, 1983) and the beginning of The Iron Man (Cal Ripken Jr)
@ryanammari7420
@ryanammari7420 3 года назад
1983 was also the year Brooks Robinson was elected to the HOF.
@alexanderarce3341
@alexanderarce3341 5 лет назад
It was a very good kept secret to keep their move quiet, but it won't work today to 24-7 social media cycle.
@VV_PaVria
@VV_PaVria 4 года назад
It wouldn't really matter too much. The reason the Colts had to move overnight was because they were racing to go before the Maryland congress could vote to stop them from moving.
@RichV20
@RichV20 5 месяцев назад
@@VV_PaVria They wanted to leave in the middle of the night before anyone knew and Maryland State Troopers would stop the trucks.
@hitdawg64
@hitdawg64 3 года назад
17:25. That's a damn cool t shirt for 1983. I didn't even know Logo 7 was around way back then.
@belcherman
@belcherman 6 лет назад
4 dislikes wtf im uploading a new in sync audio version shortly .......
@theeditorialsuite1070
@theeditorialsuite1070 5 лет назад
"Too bad." Ouch.
@adamdorgant9454
@adamdorgant9454 3 года назад
Because Baltimore was Stupid enough not to build a new stadium for the Colts!!!!
@michaelleroy9281
@michaelleroy9281 4 года назад
The rumors of the Colts leaving town started in 1979
@trishmartin7420
@trishmartin7420 6 лет назад
at least you got the ravens
@mattgrey7575
@mattgrey7575 3 года назад
I’ll never forget seeing Irsay on tv saying “It’s not your team, It’s my team.” That about says it all.
@gabrielguzman6018
@gabrielguzman6018 2 года назад
At least he was honest unlike modell who lied
@1990Thunderbolt
@1990Thunderbolt 2 года назад
@@gabrielguzman6018 what was the difference between irsay and modell?
@adamdorgant9454
@adamdorgant9454 Год назад
@@1990Thunderbolt I was about to ask the same thing!!!
@stankbox
@stankbox 6 месяцев назад
Probably not much. ​@@adamdorgant9454
@adamdorgant9454
@adamdorgant9454 7 лет назад
Hard to believe it's been 32 years since the Colts moved to Indianapolis!!!!
@belcherman
@belcherman 7 лет назад
I recorded this live in 1984............. i hate the dam dvd to vhs burn seems audio is off; will work on a better copy. I have like 1500 VHS to do lol; i have so many memories to go through.
@hoss73ford
@hoss73ford 7 лет назад
No biggy, still a good copy. I've done a lot of VHS to DVD transfers & never had a case of lips being out of synch like that.
@rockvilleraven
@rockvilleraven 5 лет назад
Ironically enough on the exact same date in 1996, Art Modell renames his franchise the Baltimore Ravens
@adamdorgant9454
@adamdorgant9454 5 лет назад
belcherman Good to know!!!
@t.c.thompson2359
@t.c.thompson2359 5 лет назад
@@rockvilleraven you do know he tried to keep the Browns name right?
@johncaparulo4800
@johncaparulo4800 5 лет назад
It's amazing how much more sympathetic Indianapolis seemed to be toward Baltimore than Baltimore would be just 11 years later toward Cleveland.
@redpillfreedom6692
@redpillfreedom6692 3 года назад
Well except for that lady who said "Too bad"
@gsmscooter22
@gsmscooter22 Год назад
Because we are good people in Indy
@44style1
@44style1 5 лет назад
Being a life-long Denver Broncos fan and native, I would be devastated. Thank goodness for the success of the Ravens. Them Irsays are crazy. Glad Elway didn't want to play for them.
@akeme25
@akeme25 4 года назад
As a Broncos fan myself, I am VERY glad that Irsay was incompetent enough for John Elway to not want to play for him. It was sad Baltimore fans though.
@adamdorgant9454
@adamdorgant9454 3 года назад
Reading about it now, Baltimore Deserved to Lose the Colts, and why, The City of Baltimore no longer supported the team, and also, Because Baltimore was Stupid enough not build a new stadium for the Colts, no wonder they moved to Indianapolis!!!!
@mrg8581
@mrg8581 2 года назад
@@adamdorgant9454 Why should cities build sports stadiums for billionaire owners? Especially stadiums that only last 25 or 30 years. Indianapolis built Hoosier Dome in 1984. That stadium is long gone. Irsay ruined the Baltimore Colts franchise. They were one of the worst teams in the NFL from 1978 through 1983. No wonder the fans there stopped going to the games! Baltimore wasn't Detroit. In Detroit, Lions continue to sell out Ford Field despite Lions being one of the worst NFL teams year after year.🙄
@CynicalCharlatan88
@CynicalCharlatan88 2 года назад
@@mrg8581 the city of Baltimore owned the stadium and the colts and orioles paid rent to play there. Explain why they should be obligated to stay in that dump stadium when their land lord refuses to renovate it? Also they weren’t billionaires in the 80s in fact the Hoosier dome cost 77 million to build. NFL teams cost less than that back then.
@mrg8581
@mrg8581 2 года назад
@@CynicalCharlatan88 If Memorial Stadium was such a dump, then the team owners should never have signed a lease to play there in the first place. And 77 million dollars to build the Hoosier Dome in 1984 would be over 200 million in 2021 dollars. A lot of money to spend on a stadium that the Colts played for only 24 seasons.
@danielmatthews638
@danielmatthews638 7 лет назад
remember like it was yesterday....walked out of high school that day.....upset about colts and that we went to school despite the snow......
@JoseTwitterFan
@JoseTwitterFan 2 года назад
This is why Mayflower is the least popular moving company in Baltimore.
@Dan97LHS
@Dan97LHS 5 лет назад
And yet eleven and a half years later, they accepted a deal to take someone else's team from them. Who knows how things would be different if the Colts had stayed in Baltimore? Perhaps, if they had left the history of the Colts and the name in Baltimore, there wouldn't be a Ravens franchise there.
@splashnskillz37
@splashnskillz37 5 лет назад
Good thing it all had a happy ending for Baltimore/Indianapolis/Cleveland Seattle on the other hand
@dakotachenoa474
@dakotachenoa474 4 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-izzKgI4bkog.html
@johnnyroberts3761
@johnnyroberts3761 4 года назад
Not sure you can say Cleveland has had a happy ending. If anything, they’ve suffered worse than Baltimore
@randomtraveler9854
@randomtraveler9854 3 года назад
@@johnnyroberts3761 How? Cleveland has their name and entire history. They were guaranteed a team a few years later. Baltimore lost everything and had to start all over like they never had a team, and had to wait 12 years without a guarantee for a new team.
@stephenholloway6893
@stephenholloway6893 2 года назад
True Cleveland got their team history and a new team but to be fair the Browns rarely had been good since they returned. Yes Seattle still haven't has a NBA team since the SuperSonics moved yet but eventually they will.
@richardhenckel9406
@richardhenckel9406 7 лет назад
Wish we could've kept the history and name atleast
@hotwax9376
@hotwax9376 7 лет назад
I'm a Cowboys fan and I have to agree with you. Baltimore should've been able to keep the Colts history and name, given that it had specific geographical implications. Maybe someday, the Colts history and intellectual property will be handed back to the Ravens and the Indianapolis team will change its name. I certainly hope it does.
@bobscott7440
@bobscott7440 6 лет назад
HotWax93 would be nice however don't think it's going to happen. I heard one time that Robert Irsay wanted to hang Johnny Unitas' jersey from the roof of the Hoosier Dome in Indianapolis.
@HeavyJ713
@HeavyJ713 6 лет назад
Nic Van when the oilers left this city wanted nothing to do with them in fact alot of people where happy Bud Adams was gone
@bobscott7440
@bobscott7440 6 лет назад
Nic Van Yeah the eminent domain claim was just plain stupid on the part of the politicians of Baltimore.
@lowdown4651
@lowdown4651 5 лет назад
You nailed it iv always believed that , now whiskey bob's son get busted go's to rehab real class team.
@johneddy908
@johneddy908 Год назад
That began a curse that has hounded the Colts to this day, despite winning a Super Bowl 34 years later.
@belcherman
@belcherman 7 лет назад
Got another one coming soon related to this one; just have to VHSrip it. It is when the Browns come to Baltimore and It was around 1995; I will post that soon. I also have uploaded the team we had in the CFL at the time "The Baltimore Stallions" winning the Gray Cup here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qw5I3DVszwM.html With the Baltimore Colts gone and no NFL football team, Baltimore got a CFL football team named the Stallions in 1994. The team played only two years but won the CFL equivalent of the SUPER BOWL in both seasons. Once the Browns were moving to Baltimore; the team was disbanded. The Baltimore Stallions were a Canadian Football League team based in Baltimore, Maryland, in the United States, which played the 1994 and 1995 seasons. Owner: Jim Speros Head coach: Don Matthews Location: Baltimore, MD Founded: 1994 Home field: Memorial Stadium Color: Royal blue, silver, black and white
@Justin-Hill-1987
@Justin-Hill-1987 3 года назад
The Cleveland Browns moved to Baltimore in 1995, where they changed their name to the Baltimore Ravens. The Browns returned to Cleveland as an expansion team in 1999.
@TL2354
@TL2354 2 года назад
Liar
@gabrielguzman6018
@gabrielguzman6018 2 года назад
99
@maddesi2709
@maddesi2709 3 года назад
Interesting! I never knew that Irsay was the previous most despicable sports team owner in the area.
@michaelleroy9281
@michaelleroy9281 4 года назад
Things were going on from Jan- Mar 1984 as the video shows
@MGAF688
@MGAF688 3 года назад
"I have not any intention of moving the g-d team. If I did, I would tell you about it. Okay?" - Bob Irsay
@stevep8445
@stevep8445 6 лет назад
They had to "sneak out of town" because they got win that the team was going to be seized
@michaelleroy9281
@michaelleroy9281 4 года назад
Oakland was going to the same with Raiders 1981-82
@majorfaulking4427
@majorfaulking4427 3 года назад
Try and take my business and I'd move middle of the night to. You ran them out of town
@theendofanerror4173
@theendofanerror4173 2 года назад
@@majorfaulking4427 "I have not any intention of moving the g-d team. If I did, I would tell you about it. Okay?" - Bob Irsay Are you a drunk as well with a goldfish memory?
@cadillac4100
@cadillac4100 Год назад
As much as i loved the Baltimore Colts. They were playing in an outdated relic of a stadium. The City of Baltimore & The State of Maryland representatives thought Irsay was talking out his rear end. Well that swift kick in the rear was Irsay's midnight exodus. Yes it was sad what he did. But it took that painful lesson to bring Camden Yards to existence .
@paulgerczak4332
@paulgerczak4332 3 года назад
They were threatening to leave over 4 years the city did nothing to make things better. They had to pay the Orioles rent and share their revenue with them and the Orioles didn't have to share nothing with the Colts. I don't blame them for leaving at all the city had time to make things better and they didn't so the Colts left.
@noahf342
@noahf342 5 лет назад
thanks for posting this video. Agreed, Baltimore should have been able to retain the name and history.
@doolindanger2459
@doolindanger2459 5 лет назад
That's insane. The city did not own them, the Irsays did. Pro Football is a business. If McDonalds moves their headquarters to another city, they don't change their name or history. The Dodgers, Lakers, Giants, Cardinals, Rams, etc. etc. etc. didn't leave their names and history behind. - it's ridiculous. ONLY Baltimore has cried about this bullshit. Get over it.
@t.c.thompson2359
@t.c.thompson2359 5 лет назад
No franchise has ever left the name behind without being forced to.
@27273100
@27273100 2 года назад
I hear you because the Browns had fought like pitbulls to get the name back. It was one hell of a fight.
@notredameandcoltsfan
@notredameandcoltsfan Год назад
Why? The city did not own them. The owner makes the decisions
@notredameandcoltsfan564
@notredameandcoltsfan564 3 месяца назад
How about San Diego keeping the Chargers name/history and Oakland keeping the Raiders name/history? How come no one talks about that?
@maddesi2709
@maddesi2709 3 года назад
It's also amusing to hear references to "bringing football into the modern era".
@mrg8581
@mrg8581 2 года назад
Really? The Hoosier Dome looked far from being finished. 14:55.
@matthewscott8692
@matthewscott8692 5 лет назад
Indianapolis Colts fan here. I definitely understand the hatred the people of Baltimore feel for Robert Irsay. The guy was a drunk and was a garbage owner who never put a good team on the field here in Indy. When he died his son took over and hired the right people and got out of the way for the most part. I also feel the Colts name should have stayed in Baltimore. But, government officials in Baltimore are partially to blame for the Colts leaving. Memorial Stadium was falling apart for years and the previous Colts owner tried to negotiate with the city. He got sick of dealing with it and traded the Colts for the Rams. I think Irsay did Baltimore dirty with HOW he moved the team but Baltimore could have prevented this from happening and a lot of the comments here don't mention that at all 🤔
@FAITHandLOGIC
@FAITHandLOGIC 6 лет назад
Isn't it interesting that both of Baltimore's teams were once called the Browns?
@colonelrobertsjr.7882
@colonelrobertsjr.7882 6 лет назад
FAITHandLOGIC That was very ironic lol
@MGAF688
@MGAF688 6 лет назад
Never thought of that but true.
@anthonylopresti3078
@anthonylopresti3078 2 года назад
Wait a sec, America once actually made t shirts?? Damn
@oscarruiz7485
@oscarruiz7485 5 лет назад
Charger fan here I feel the pain.
@georgeharleydavidsonrider156
@georgeharleydavidsonrider156 5 лет назад
Oscar Ruiz Sorry for your loss Brother. I was 21 when the Colts Left . I am still angry. I remember the Dan Fouts days with the Chargers .
@chrisgreen2941
@chrisgreen2941 4 года назад
I remember when this happened, I'll still take the Ravens, we had to lose in order to gain.
@Ducksfan76
@Ducksfan76 3 года назад
Johnny unitas said it perfectly
@coolsvillesucks1798
@coolsvillesucks1798 4 года назад
Baltimore and Cleveland share one thing in common, they both had heartbreaking relocations. But the difference between them is that Baltimore was nice enough to give Cleveland their history and name back, but Baltimore didn't get the same treatment. Indianapolis rarely, if ever, acknowledges their past and it's sad if you ask me. If Peyton Manning was never drafted by the Indianapolis Colts they would have been one of the most irrelevant, unsuccessful franchises in NFL history. The city of Baltimore definitely made the Ravens their own, but deep down I think lots of older fans wish they had just been the Colts the whole time. Johnny Unitas is a football legend and he was the face of that city, arguably that entire state too and he sounded the most disappointed by that whole scandal.
@ErickGainesSanders
@ErickGainesSanders 4 года назад
Not quite. We had to sue the League and Baltimore for that. Everything was slated to go. EVERYTHING. While those overbreeding defiling thieves have two trophies built on our blood, sweat & tears, all we have are 20 years--TWENTY YEARS--of agony, shame and disappointment. We will NEVER forgive this. EVER.
@coolsvillesucks1798
@coolsvillesucks1798 4 года назад
It's a completely messed up situation, Cleveland never got any sort of redemption for what happened either. If there is any team in pro sports that deserves a championship, it's the Browns.
@arthurhall8238
@arthurhall8238 3 года назад
@@ErickGainesSanders - you are seriously dellusional
@TheFallingFlamingo
@TheFallingFlamingo 2 года назад
If the state had built a new stadium, instead of trying to sieze control of a private citizens property, like they'd promised Baltimore would still have the Colts. I'm sure the Colts would rather just pretend it never happened and that they were in Indiana from inception, where they have top tier facilities, raving fans, and plenty of money. After all, people tend to forget that the team snuck to the border of Maryland in the dead of night, out of fear of being arrested by Maryland State Police, and were escorted by Indiana State Police to their new home in Indianapolis.
@stevensuarez4843
@stevensuarez4843 Год назад
Well one thing Baltimore has that Cleveland doesn't.... 2 Super bowl titles!
@BtownFlyer
@BtownFlyer 7 лет назад
Simple. Don't try to seize a man's personal business via eminent domain. Baltimore forced Irsay to move the team or lose it.
@hoss73ford
@hoss73ford 7 лет назад
Yep, eminent domain amounts to stealing.
@EnjoyLifeNow24
@EnjoyLifeNow24 6 лет назад
I agree, that's communism.
@charlesshettle1313
@charlesshettle1313 6 лет назад
WRONG. Try educating yourself on the details. Irsay bought the Colts from Rosenbloom, and ran the team into the ground. He alienated the fans . He was considered the worst owner in sports. He was going to move the team regardless. He was shopping the team to cities desperate to get into the NFL>Eminent Domain was a last ditch effort to stop the inevitable move.
@LegalAmerican4
@LegalAmerican4 6 лет назад
Blue Skeptic trapping him? Cities shouldn't raise taxes to pay for sports stadiums for billionaires. I'm a die hard sports fan and even I see the economic idiocy there
@YourLocalRealist
@YourLocalRealist 6 лет назад
Charles Shettle ...actually, Irsay was allowed to acquire the Rams in a behind the scenes deal that cut the legs out from under Hugh Culverhouse. Then the NFL allowed Irsay & Rosenbloom to swap franchises. Culverhouse threatened to sue the NFL and was awarded the Tampa franchise to make up for it.
@FlukeDogg08
@FlukeDogg08 3 месяца назад
40 years of Indianapolis Colts
@randomtraveler9854
@randomtraveler9854 5 лет назад
I'm a Baltimore fan(from Pennsylvania) but get your facts straight. The move was 20 years in the making. Both the Orioles and Colts were disguised with Memorial Stadium as far back as the 60's. When Baltimore became aware of the complaints they proposed to build a multipurpose dome similar to the Astrodome in Houston, down where the current stadiums are now. However they soon withdrew the plan on the excuse that they didn't have the money and wouldn't replace what they considered a memorial to fallen soldiers (facade of Memorial Stadium) A 1972 study of Memorial Stadium sided with the owners. No skyboxes, obstructed views, poor location, poor plumbing, parking and concessions under control of the Orioles even for Colts games, the 2 p.m. kickoffs, and the horseshoe shaped bowl (took fans sitting on the 50 yard line away from the action) were among issues addressed. Yet Baltimore made little, if any effort, to remodel and upgrade the stadium. Threats of relocation came from both the Colts and Orioles shortly after this with the Colts being sold to Robert Irsay in 1972 and the Orioles to Edward Williams in 1979. Talks between the owners and the city produced little results and never mentioned a new stadium for either team. Even in 1984 the mayor made it known a new stadium wasn't going to be built. Once the Colts left the fear of the Orioles relocating to Washington D.C. (where Williams had his law office) became very real and the need for a new stadium to save the Orioles became a top priority. Even then Annapolis was slow to pass a bill to fund a stadium. It was only the smart thinking of the Colts marching band playing at the State House that the new stadium, now known as Camden Yards, passed. Baltimore treated the owners like crap and paid the price. Not siding with the Colts but holding Baltimore responsible for their actions. They're lucky they have teams today.
@robkrieg8301
@robkrieg8301 4 года назад
So they treated the owners like crap by not having the taxpayers foot the bill on a stadium for a couple billionaires? Why didnt they offer to pay when baltinore said it didnt have the cash? Huh? Seems like they tried to treat the taxpayers like shit not the other way around.
@michaelleroy9281
@michaelleroy9281 4 года назад
Colts leaving helped Oriole Park at Camden Yards buiit
@hellman9655
@hellman9655 3 года назад
@@robkrieg8301 you missed the part where he said the city did nothing to address complaints over Memorial Stadium. It was a very flawed stadium and obsolete as early as the 60s. As far as Irsay, he's trash. Stolen valor.
@robkrieg8301
@robkrieg8301 3 года назад
@@hellman9655 you must not have read my comment correctly. I never said memorial stadium wasn't a bad stadium nor did I say the city tried to cooperate for a new stadium. I want someone to explain to me why the taxpayers of the city should pay for a billionaires stadium? Look at St. louis still paying off a stadium they got stuck with after the taxpayers got hosed and now they have a big empty useless stadium with years left of payments to go and the team still left. Is it abnormal to ask billionaires to pay their own way?
@hellman9655
@hellman9655 3 года назад
@@robkrieg8301 there's the way things are and the way they should be. Run for office and be the change you're looking for.
@tgfabthunderbird1
@tgfabthunderbird1 9 месяцев назад
A tragedy, sponsored by Toyota. Somehow, that fits. I remember well watching on TV in New England the Mayflower trucks trying to sneak out of the headquarters in the middle of the night. We couldn't believe it, but then we remembered who the owner was.
@williamsanders2439
@williamsanders2439 3 года назад
The Mayflower Move
@jefferyrobertson7520
@jefferyrobertson7520 6 лет назад
Al Davis leave Oakland move to Los Angeles became Los Angeles Raiders in 1982 followed by Robert irsay leave Baltimore move to Indianapolis became Indianapolis Colts in 1984 and last but not least bill bidwill leave St Louis move to Phoenix became Phoenix Cardinals in 1988 those are the greatest moves the franchise relocation in NFL history of all time the 80s
@rockvilleraven
@rockvilleraven 5 лет назад
Ironically Bidwell considered moving to Baltimore, but the family voted for Arizona because of the Weather.
@jefferyrobertson7520
@jefferyrobertson7520 5 лет назад
rockvilleraven Oakland Alameda Coliseum home of Oakland Athletics Memorial Stadium home of Baltimore Orioles and Busch Stadium home of St Louis Cardinals Major League Baseball without NFL teams
@michaelleroy9281
@michaelleroy9281 2 года назад
The Cardinals move to Phoenix in 1988 was approved by the NFL owners they didn't just take off like the Raiders and Colts
@johnziemann5133
@johnziemann5133 4 года назад
The colts left by the cover of darkness.....The Colts' Band proceeded by the light of day.
@goodvibes4459
@goodvibes4459 10 месяцев назад
There is a good doc on Disney plus about the move. And the colts band getting screwed. But yeah. The colts were cowards for leaving like they did. Especially over night with out giving the town any notice. The Band was lucky to get there uniforms back because they were at the cleaners lol. So they hid them in a cemetery and hid them in a mausoleum. Lol. Later on the Baltimore Ravens were nice enough to allow the band to play for them all these years later. They got new uniforms and everything.
@wiedep
@wiedep Год назад
When you don't have a mind (Irsay) it's hard to make it up.
@michaelleroy9281
@michaelleroy9281 4 года назад
Memorial Stadium was turning into a dump should be glad Orioles didn't leave town also
@rockvilleraven
@rockvilleraven 3 года назад
O's Owner Edward Bennett Williams only signed 1 year leases until the Camden Yards Stadium project passed.
@halblow448
@halblow448 3 года назад
It also had a parking lot from Hell.
@arthurhall8238
@arthurhall8238 3 года назад
I wish they had...we would have gotten an expansion team or a new team with a decent owner...
@michaelleroy9281
@michaelleroy9281 Месяц назад
​@@arthurhall8238What team really likes it's owner? at the end of the day it's business
@arthurhall8238
@arthurhall8238 Месяц назад
@@michaelleroy9281 umm..a lot of them do...great excuse
@1300mikehoward
@1300mikehoward 2 года назад
Worse than the Colts leaving, local politics closed my recreation center in North West Baltimore in the early 1980s.
@gojuraisforever9574
@gojuraisforever9574 2 года назад
Even if the Colts didn’t leave for Indianapolis, what would Baltimore do with two NFL teams?! It most like would have to be like the Jets and Giants, there would be no other choice.
@michaelleroy9281
@michaelleroy9281 4 года назад
In 1983 Colts had many crowds of 25000 or so
@adamdorgant9454
@adamdorgant9454 3 года назад
Didn’t know that!!!!
@andysozio8556
@andysozio8556 3 года назад
Because the team had been horrible for 5 years and Irsay was constantly threatening to move the team. Also in those days a lot of NFL teams failed to fill their stadiums.
@adamdorgant9454
@adamdorgant9454 Год назад
@@andysozio8556 You’re Right about that!!!
@voicevitality7197
@voicevitality7197 2 года назад
There's so much I could say about Marge Blatt 5:55, the human Pall Mall. When public relations backfires.
@adamdorgant9454
@adamdorgant9454 Год назад
You’re right about that!!!!
@kalel311superman9
@kalel311superman9 2 года назад
i was 3 when this happened i started watching the nfl when i was 10 and eventually i found out about this
@andrewschulzsd
@andrewschulzsd 6 лет назад
Chargers move equally as bad, only they went to a rival sports city of San Diego, LA to become a SECOND TEAM.
@jcueto75
@jcueto75 5 лет назад
2nd team LA don't even want them no matter how good they are, Raiders and Cowboys are more popular in LA than even the Rams.
@NinjaDog9123
@NinjaDog9123 4 года назад
Andrew Schulz I think the Colts move was worse because at least the Chargers didn’t leave the state of California and LA is only 2 hours away from San Diego.
@theproffesir
@theproffesir 4 года назад
Nothing is equally as bad as leaving in the middle of the night
@John-tr6of
@John-tr6of 4 года назад
@@NinjaDog9123 Yeah, but you can't replace what the franchise meant to the city.
@NinjaDog9123
@NinjaDog9123 4 года назад
WTA Statman John true. At least Baltimore actually got a new team back. San Diego might get a new team back in the future.
@wbeard358
@wbeard358 2 года назад
They made the man hell of a better deal than Baltimore. Shame we didn’t get to keep the team’s history and colors
@uncleloof
@uncleloof 2 года назад
In the end all cities involved came out okay.
@Justin-Hill-1987
@Justin-Hill-1987 Год назад
Thank goodness the Packers stayed in Green Bay instead of moving to Milwaukee...The Packers have too much of a long, rich football history in the city of Green Bay to move anywhere else, having been started by Acme meat packing company employees in the late 1800s as a sandlot football team known as the Acme Packers...I also like that the Packers had invested in renovations, expansions and retrofits to their stadium to make it a year-round attraction for their fanbase. Instead of being owned by one person, the Packers are owned by a collective of shareholders. I worked at the Packers Pro Shop at Lambeau Field in high school, and it's amazing to see all the merchandise with the Packers logo plastered all over them beyond the usual range of hats, T-shirts and jerseys!
@Nash55ppp
@Nash55ppp 3 года назад
The NFL returns to Los Angeles of both the Rams '16 & Chargers '17
@gojuraisforever9574
@gojuraisforever9574 2 года назад
No wonder he was called “Turnoff” should have changed his last name to “Turndown” because he was turning down the reporters questions.
@thatboykaden8128
@thatboykaden8128 Месяц назад
Crazy in the 1980's u can just camp out and go to someones hotel room and interview him.
@fawnlliebowitz1772
@fawnlliebowitz1772 Год назад
Raw deal, the BALTIMORE Colts put the NFL on the map. Devil on earth, Irsay's own mother quote.
@michaelleroy9281
@michaelleroy9281 4 года назад
15 vans taking 15 different routes
@adamdorgant9454
@adamdorgant9454 3 года назад
You’re right about that!!!!!
@herbcanter2614
@herbcanter2614 11 месяцев назад
Sad day.
@JayDogTitan
@JayDogTitan 6 лет назад
Of all relocation, this was the worst. Baltimore Colts should still exist.
@muttley8818
@muttley8818 5 лет назад
They do. They're just called the Indianapolis Colts instead. And at least Baltimore ended up with the Ravens, who have been more successful than the Indy Colts. At the expense of the original Browns of course, but you see my point. This should have been done with an announcement, but can't blame the relocation though. Memorial Stadium was falling apart and the city was cheap and wouldn't dig into their pockets for a new stadium or any serious renovation. Irsay had no choice. Baltimore is lucky they still have the O's for the same reason.
@notredameandcoltsfan
@notredameandcoltsfan Год назад
Not anymore
@brucecox5025
@brucecox5025 Год назад
INDIANAPOLIS IS THERE RIGHTFUL HOME NOW 💙💙💙
@michaelleroy9281
@michaelleroy9281 4 года назад
Baltimore had a goofy rule about 2 pm(eastern) start times that's one reason
@Agent-xn1hr
@Agent-xn1hr 3 года назад
The Bears also had the same 2pm start (1pm central) which was weird.
@realazduffman
@realazduffman 4 года назад
This would make a good movie.
@BagmanSports
@BagmanSports 4 года назад
AZDuffman 30 for 30 has one about the marching band. It’s really good
@nathanhamberg6733
@nathanhamberg6733 5 лет назад
saying that Baltimore should have kept the lago in Baltimore no because Bob Irsay owned the team so he technically owned the lago
@arthurhall8238
@arthurhall8238 3 года назад
not the point...
@edlegenbauer3170
@edlegenbauer3170 5 лет назад
Cleveland kept the Browns logo . Why was the Irsay clown allowed to keep the Colts logo?Maby the nfl can fix that as well as the officiating problems
@truthgolden938
@truthgolden938 4 года назад
Man! I theses nos·tal·gia jiggles music intro from baltimore channel 2 back in the late 80's!😂😂😂😂🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶
@CO84trucker
@CO84trucker 9 месяцев назад
28:17 dayum.... The news outlets would be under heavy fire for using that R word if the Colts move happened in the 2000s onward!
@stankbox
@stankbox 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, wow. That sounds bad, even for then to me.
@michaelrmcornejo
@michaelrmcornejo 10 месяцев назад
what baffles me is the nerve of Indianapolis to keep the Colts name.
@mylanduke1294
@mylanduke1294 5 лет назад
It's all good that Baltimore let there team leave. I love my Baltimore- Indianapolis Colt's 🏈🏈🏈
@arthurhall8238
@arthurhall8238 3 года назад
HAHA...people still cringe when they hear "Indianoplace Colts"
@rockvilleraven
@rockvilleraven 2 года назад
@@arthurhall8238 People in Baltimore can’t stand the fact that’s what happened when you pull an “Emmint Domain” clause on an owner.
@arthurhall8238
@arthurhall8238 2 года назад
@@rockvilleraven Colts will move again at some point....
@warrenkemmer1307
@warrenkemmer1307 Год назад
They would've gotten a new stadium like the ravens but the owner was a lunatic
@IAmMisterTterevel
@IAmMisterTterevel 7 лет назад
Well, Baltimore. You First Rejected Irsay's Demand for a New Stadium and then passed a Measure denying that chance, You then tried to Take the Colts Away from Irsay which forced him to make the move to Indianpolis. If You Hadn't Screwed Over Your Own Damn Team and Just Gave Them a New Stadium and Not Threaten to Take That Team Away, I'll Betcha The Colts would still be in Baltimore. But Hey You've Learned and Got the Ravens (Although You Had To Take That Team From Cleveland).
@edstylc2441
@edstylc2441 7 лет назад
Much more complicated than that.
@IAmMisterTterevel
@IAmMisterTterevel 7 лет назад
Ed Stylc how?
@edstylc2441
@edstylc2441 7 лет назад
12 years tearing apart a team and fielding one of the league's worst defenses ever. 0-8-1 and 2-14 seasons. Trading away Johnny Unitas, Irsay calling plays from the press box. It was a joke. Do not get me wrong, the Maryland state government also dropped the ball, but Irsay was a crummy owner who shopped around the franchise playing pre-season games in Phoenix and Jacksonville. I lived through it and am well versed on this. The city of Baltimore also takes some blame for the 2pm starts to accommodate local churches in the residential area where Memorial Stadium was located.
@IAmMisterTterevel
@IAmMisterTterevel 7 лет назад
Ed Stylc And Don't Forget The Colts Passed On Elway to the Broncos after he refused to play with them...
@edstylc2441
@edstylc2441 7 лет назад
There was that as well. Agreed. Had they waited Elway out he would have signed eventually.
@arthurhall8238
@arthurhall8238 3 года назад
Must stink to have the best player ever in your franchise history.....to have a statue outside of someone else's stadium
@Austin.Kilgore
@Austin.Kilgore Год назад
Wdym?
@arthurhall8238
@arthurhall8238 Год назад
@@Austin.Kilgore umm..there is a status of Johnny Unitas, a COLT, outside of Raven's stadium...
@marcelo141224
@marcelo141224 6 лет назад
Ravens (old Browns) fans see this
@belcherman
@belcherman 5 лет назад
I also have Browns to Baltimore as well. need to put that up.
@youngxsavage7025
@youngxsavage7025 5 лет назад
I live in Baltimore
@Dave-nj4go
@Dave-nj4go 6 лет назад
Well we waited 12 years to get back in NFL team with the Ravens, and 5 year we won our first of Super Bowl. I was 6 at that time, before the Ravens I was a Cowboys/49ers fans but when the Ravens came I came a fan since day one
@Painx317
@Painx317 3 года назад
2007
@johnfifer1418
@johnfifer1418 5 лет назад
Cry 😭💔
@jasonrfoss248
@jasonrfoss248 2 года назад
You can’t say goddamn on the air. Don’t worry. Nobody’s listening anyway.
@nathanhamberg6733
@nathanhamberg6733 5 лет назад
I wonder what would have happened if the Colts went to a different state it would have been interesting if they did come to Arizona keeping in mind that everything that happened would happen if they got the same player's that won the superbowl in Indianapolis
@t.c.thompson2359
@t.c.thompson2359 5 лет назад
How is that interesting, it is the exact same thing with a different city in front of it.
@nathanhamberg6733
@nathanhamberg6733 5 лет назад
@@t.c.thompson2359 well the Arizona Cardinals aren't really that great of a team they only made it to the super bowl once and had the chance to win but screwed up and the last few years they haven't done much
@therealmaskedheel
@therealmaskedheel 6 лет назад
Baltimore had the last laugh, though. Baltimore has won two Super Bowls since then and the Colts only won one.
@AutoRacer5
@AutoRacer5 5 лет назад
Cleveland was guaranteed a franchise by the NFL within a few years with their original colors and history. The city of Baltimore had no such guarantee.
@halblow448
@halblow448 5 лет назад
@Montana Roots Cleveland was also able to keep their name and history (from Otto Graham to Vinny Testaverde). All those Colts players and championships won in Baltimore are recognized in the Hall of Fame as Indianapolis. That is the real difference. Cleveland's legacy was left intact as opposed to Baltimore, which was ripped away and perverted. As fast as the team left Cleveland, Tagliabue insured them a new team. Baltimore was lied to and teased for 11 yrs before it got a team with Tagliabue only proposing a museum. I'm sorry the Browns have not lived up to previous frachise's standards, but that really is the current Brown's fault alone. The league can't win the games for them. The Raven's Super Bowls are Baltimore's alone with MVPs in each never playing a game as a Brown. Cleveland is more a coddled child that really doesn't realize how good they have it, while Baltimore's the neglected child that's had to fight for everything it has.
@willt2810
@willt2810 5 лет назад
Baltimore was in the wrong for this one. They were trying to take the team away from the owner.
@johnsonwaite9865
@johnsonwaite9865 5 лет назад
Don't forget we beat them on our way to winning our 2nd Super Bowl!
@brianemanuel576
@brianemanuel576 5 лет назад
The Masked Heel Baltimore wouldn't even exist if it weren't for the Browns
@brianarbenz7206
@brianarbenz7206 6 лет назад
Every Hoosier still celebrates this as our state's arrival!
@adamdorgant9454
@adamdorgant9454 Год назад
True!!!!
@dvferyance
@dvferyance 4 года назад
The Colts belong in Indianapolis. That is where Peyton Manning played.
@MickBurkhardt
@MickBurkhardt 5 лет назад
The Ravens will never receive the legacy of the Baltimore Colts, nor should they, because not only does the Colts organization own the rights and intellectual property, but they have already established their own history and identity. Technically the city of Baltimore does own that history, it just won't be recognized by the NFL. History was made there in Baltimore and no amount of money can take that geographical history from one place to another. I understand Baltimore fans were hurt by the move, but the city was to blame for that in the beginning, and once Irsay had started the moving process, it was too late. The city of Baltimore knew a move was potentially coming, it was how it was executed that took everybody by surprise.
@cellmate1
@cellmate1 3 года назад
They tried to take The Colts from Irsay!!!! He’s not the villain
@acharleyhorse1
@acharleyhorse1 3 года назад
Then you know nothing about Irsay. His own Mother called him "The Devil on earth".
@cellmate1
@cellmate1 3 года назад
@@acharleyhorse1 Baltimore tried to take his team.
@andysozio8556
@andysozio8556 3 года назад
You seriously need to learn about Irsay and how he ran that franchise into the ground when it was in Baltimore. He was an absolute villian.
@cellmate1
@cellmate1 3 года назад
@@acharleyhorse1 IT WAS STILL HIS TEAM!! His personality has nothing to do with it
@johncaparulo4800
@johncaparulo4800 6 лет назад
The fans of Baltimore seem to vividly remember the pain of losing the Colts, but they don't appear to have any problem with the way they acquired the Ravens. That really says a lot about people way beyond pro football. It says that they're hopelessly terrible. Nice.
@GeoGuy388
@GeoGuy388 6 лет назад
They also had no problem with their owners cock-blocking baseball from coming back to D.C. for decades. Scumbag Baltimorons.
@bobscott7440
@bobscott7440 6 лет назад
John Caparulo What were they supposed to do? You act as though the fans of Baltimore were responsible for the Browns leaving Cleveland.
@edfischbach2601
@edfischbach2601 6 лет назад
But the Browns still have their history still have their name they took our team took the history took the name took the horseshoe need say more.
@ibleedblackandpurple8168
@ibleedblackandpurple8168 6 лет назад
Ed fischbach preech!
@rmh941
@rmh941 6 лет назад
I feel bad for Cleveland fans as a Baltimore sports fan, but the baltimore move is still much worse cause the team just took off and left and took our name (which has a Baltimore inspiration), our records and championships.
@elsquared8800
@elsquared8800 5 лет назад
Why is the audio so out of sync? Is anyone else having that problem?
@colonelrobertsjr.7882
@colonelrobertsjr.7882 5 лет назад
Yes
@StrivingTowardsWhatIsAhead
@StrivingTowardsWhatIsAhead 5 лет назад
I’m hammer drunk so I can’t really tell.
@adamdorgant9454
@adamdorgant9454 5 лет назад
Yes!!!!
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