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Rare Find: 1890 Victorian Crochet Pattern 

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Discover a rare find - a 1890 Victorian crochet pattern! This vintage crochet pattern is a unique piece of history that any crochet enthusiast will love to add to their collection.
Discover a 133-year-old Victorian mystery crochet pattern from 1890. Just vintage crochet at its finest!
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@justvintagecrochet
@justvintagecrochet 2 месяца назад
Find my other channel here! ru-vid.com/show-UCiHzLxbyweMqSkkPyF1_1Ow
@danabolick5154
@danabolick5154 2 месяца назад
Let’s face it. Housewives of the 1890s who could read probably took a few creative liberties themselves. The important thing is sticking as close as reasonably possible to the original intent of the design. I mean come on, are we going to apply leeches to treat fever or simply pop a Tylenol.
@laurelcausey
@laurelcausey 2 месяца назад
There was so much assumed knowledge in most of these patterns that I think the others who made this ABSOLUTELY would have used a stacked single if it were common practice. Why not learn from the years of experience of others?
@JillyMae89
@JillyMae89 2 месяца назад
🤣 🤣 🤣
@lizholmes2730
@lizholmes2730 2 месяца назад
My grandmother could read, but until she had mastered reading, she was shown stitches as a child and encouraged to make useful items for sale. She crocheted fine work... Irish crochet. Mainly collars, cuffs, gloves, trimming for bed linen, towels, tablecloths napkins handkerchiefs etc.. Very fine crochet hooks, leather protector for index finger re fine thread and sharp small hooks. Many of her stitches patterns etc were committed to memory, she could read a little but if you gave her a sample or piece of work... She could read the sample and reproduce or even repair the item. She also did this with knitting. My mum encouraged her to tell how she did a pattern and mum recorded it. I have samples of her borders, open work, motifs etc.... Even a some knitting. The baby shawl Christine pattern is fantastic. 1 ply, cast on one and at each row make one at the beginning when you get to the req. No of stitches you start to decrease in the same manner... You have a garter stitch 'diamond... The rest consists simply of picking up stitches on a side, couple of foundation rows, a row of holes for a ribbon if desired then feather and fan stich which you are supposed to know how it's done... Sew up, work a 16 stitch border around the outside....
@Padraigp
@Padraigp Месяц назад
Absolutely. The old instructions are so vague and so different according to different countries and publications and even in families they use different terms and names . Its really just twisting string around so it really doesn't matter so long as it's basically the thing.
@Padraigp
@Padraigp Месяц назад
​@lizholmes2730 my grandma did that too...I have some of her lace which I'm trying to look at and to be honest most isn't crotchet it's something else ..and might even be my great grandmother's cos some si really old .... id love to do something with them before they fall apart into dust. She didn't know hwo she knew what she knew she just knew it and she never explained anything...she would sit me on her lap and saw now...and make me follow along in the middle of her legs. And then say...now! And now! And I had to copy her. She died when I was 8 so I didn't learn a whole lot unfortunately. It wasn't till I was older and got to clean the family home I found all the leatherwork lace work lace lengths and collars and cuffs ..some garters...ah. I dont know what to do with them but they are precious.
@grahamfreeman2252
@grahamfreeman2252 2 месяца назад
I was thrilled when you said you were going to do it the way you thought was best. We are watching to see how you cope with the mystery pattern and how you deal with the confusion. One day the pedantic few will be able to watch an AI robot do the pattern and they will be happy. Until then I suggest they stop watching and/or commenting. The rest of us will enjoy the offering as it is.
@arelishester9575
@arelishester9575 2 месяца назад
Corinna, I am so glad that you exercised your freedom to do your preferred modifications to the pattern. I’m all for that!
@amethystanne4586
@amethystanne4586 2 месяца назад
1890 was a good year. My Gramma was born that year. She showed me how to do a yarn over, and answered any question I had about crochet. While working on the first project, I sat on the G’ma & G’pa’s back porch bench.
@jillschimpf1605
@jillschimpf1605 2 месяца назад
***Applause*** ***Applause*** ***Applause*** Way to go!!! I'm sooooo glad you stuck to your guns and did the stacked singles!! YOU ROCK!!!!! ❤❤❤
@Teerae11
@Teerae11 2 месяца назад
I love stacked single stitches instead of Chains , looks cleaner and Joines better , I don't chain 3 anymore at all , this is beautiful !! Especially the Border , can b used on so many projects !! ❤ It !! Thank You so much for another great video 📷📷 !!
@Toni-islandlife
@Toni-islandlife 2 месяца назад
It’s so much prettier in thinner yarn. The details stand out.
@jibjab7207
@jibjab7207 2 месяца назад
More power to you! You stitch your stitches the way you want to!
@Whenlifegivesyoulemonscrochet
@Whenlifegivesyoulemonscrochet 2 месяца назад
Yeah!! Kept telling my screen please do you! Enjoy the process! If someone anyone wants to be a stickler for perfection on following the pattern, they should consider starting their own channel. Yes the channel is ‘just vintage crochet’, but we should also give you grace as to run your channel. At least I don’t know what all goes into doing this but it is more than I think… I am here to join you in this exploration of vintage patterns. I want you to enjoy as much as I do! Please keep been you! Adjust as much of the patterns as you feel you need to ;)
@cheskydivision
@cheskydivision 2 месяца назад
Every person that uses a pattern makes changes to make the process and project better even back in the day. Some comments need to be ignored. ❤
@sidmelucci3675
@sidmelucci3675 2 месяца назад
That's a very nifty variation on our granny stitch. And the border is extremely elegant.
@paulaortega3756
@paulaortega3756 2 месяца назад
I like hearing how you puzzle the directions, question, then redirect yourself to get back on track. This helps me, as a beginner, to slow down, and break down the directions into meaningful steps.
@ParkAvenue34
@ParkAvenue34 2 месяца назад
*)*Monarch Andalusian* (1930s) was a soft wool yarn. It was 4-ply and sold in 1 oz balls (1934). It was suitable for Infant and childrens garments, including carriage covers. Correct weight for Pullovers, Ladies Hats, Scarves and Berets.
@michezkr
@michezkr 2 месяца назад
i think whenever i don’t know what movie to watch, i‘ll just come here to watch these videos of yours haha
@judygiesbrecht8297
@judygiesbrecht8297 2 месяца назад
Corinna, this shawl is exactly what I have been looking for. It is a tighter stitch than some of the others. Well done. 💕🇨🇦
@user-uq8qo5hf4r
@user-uq8qo5hf4r 2 месяца назад
Gonna make this in #10 thread for a table cover. Large enought for my round coffee table. Beautiful work!!
@txnightowl73
@txnightowl73 2 месяца назад
I think they said between first and second long trebles because they are not considering the starting chain to be a long treble. So that would indeed put you starting in the center of the group. Pronunciation of Andalusian: and illusion I absolutely love your channel! I have to admit I am one of those people that yells at the screen translating the pattern into modern terms; not that anyone but my cats hear me. LOL. It doesn’t matter if it’s a tutorial or a mystery pattern, I watch all your videos! I even love the flipping-n-picking videos. And when it comes to putting your preferred methods into the patterns, you do you! If you want to work a stacked single, do it. Thank you for introducing me to vintage patterns.
@kathylecluyse7820
@kathylecluyse7820 2 месяца назад
I'd totally wear such a shawl! The yarn, the pattern, the border, your quite reasonable adaptations - it's perfect!
@audreydeneui192
@audreydeneui192 2 месяца назад
Whee! I love this! As I understand it, at the beginning of round 2, the pattern is not naming that beginning chain up as a treble (because you are chaining), therefore, it says "...first and second trebles..." when it means to put the group of 4 in the middle (between the second and third trebles). You correctly placed this shell in the middle, i.e. between the "second" and third. This obviously predates the familiar, conventional obligatory phrases, "...chain x number of chains..." followed by "...chain group counts as first whatever stitch in this and all following rows..." or words to that effect. Thank you so much!
@Piecemaker1623
@Piecemaker1623 2 месяца назад
Thought it would make a nice baby blanket.
@lorriewhite7886
@lorriewhite7886 2 месяца назад
Beautiful! Good on you for those stacked singles!
@plinkiplonk
@plinkiplonk 2 месяца назад
Haven't finished watching yet, so you might still get it yourself, too, but the reason they are starting each round between the first and second Treble is that they do not count the starting chain as a real treble, so the centre of the cluster is actually between the first and second true treble stitch; hope that makes sense...
@sidmelucci3675
@sidmelucci3675 2 месяца назад
That's what I was thinking. The pattern instructions could have been more clear though. (A comment that applies to a _lot_ of these vintage patterns!)
@susanrussell8195
@susanrussell8195 2 месяца назад
That is the perfect explanation. I thought they wanted you to turn your work so you were at a corner.
@brendacarter1574
@brendacarter1574 2 месяца назад
I love this shawl pattern! You did such a wonderful job! Thank you for sharing it with us!
@dangray
@dangray 2 месяца назад
Always a pleasure to watch, thanks.
@jennyhanks6740
@jennyhanks6740 2 месяца назад
Oh my gosh, I love this one! I like your stacked singles, it does look tidier for sure. So many shawl patterns, which one should I make? 😯 Corinna, I will definitely be joining your new channel! I like you and I want to hang out with you, sounds like a blast! 😁
@susananderson3478
@susananderson3478 2 месяца назад
Well done Corinna yours look great ❤please don’t let haters get to you! You do you ! ❤❤❤❤
@maryb6872
@maryb6872 2 месяца назад
The shawl is very pretty and delicate. It's interesting that the shawls were made in a square and then folded into a rectangle, rather than working from one corner up. I guess those two layers of work were warmer to wear. 🙂
@delladearest2511
@delladearest2511 2 месяца назад
I like this pattern, great job❣️🥰😻
@heatheryarbrough5255
@heatheryarbrough5255 2 месяца назад
It is gorgeous. What a beautiful shawl. Thanks again for all your great videos.
@donnasqueaky2
@donnasqueaky2 2 месяца назад
Glad you did another crochet video! I missed you! 😊
@erikagholston6610
@erikagholston6610 2 месяца назад
Thank you for staying to true yourself.
@brookerdoll
@brookerdoll 2 месяца назад
I love this pattern! But instead of a shawl, I'm picturing a blanket. ❤
@Troutay
@Troutay 2 месяца назад
Yay! I needed this today!
@nancygrover8959
@nancygrover8959 2 месяца назад
There are no crochet po!ice, and as far as I know, you can do it however you want 🤔😄.
@funniful
@funniful 2 месяца назад
Then you apparently haven’t been in a crochet Facebook group! Lol 😆 😂
@devils.advocate2354
@devils.advocate2354 2 месяца назад
Crochet outlaws exist in order to give the crochet police something to do other than eat doughnuts 🤔😉
@Summerrainfalling
@Summerrainfalling 2 месяца назад
​@@devils.advocate2354 🤣😂🤣😂
@YvonneSowder
@YvonneSowder Месяц назад
Cute😂
@Diazarys
@Diazarys 2 месяца назад
So pretty, adding it to my ever growing list of inspo i get from your channel so far, I've made the snood and the opera bag. Thank you for all the videos.
@susanrussell8195
@susanrussell8195 2 месяца назад
Good for you using stacked singles. If the original pattern writers had known this technique, I’m sure it would have been incorporated.
@sapphireblu76
@sapphireblu76 2 месяца назад
It still turned out really pretty!
@Brinalea1031
@Brinalea1031 Месяц назад
Oh Mylanta! Vintage crochet patterns and knit patterns are so confusing. You are awesome for trying to figure them out.
@darpanabai3967
@darpanabai3967 2 месяца назад
I'm addicted. I've never seen this type of crochet content on YT, and I love it! I'm on my third video of yours today!
@naomis2
@naomis2 2 месяца назад
OmG I’m definitely getting this pattern. ❤ Thanks for making it available!
@ivymace711
@ivymace711 Месяц назад
I give little blankets/sample-sized stuff to my doggie. I cover him up on the couch when he is sleeping and then put them up when he’s not napping so he can’t chew them. It’s never fun when the strings come out the other end. 😂
@walterwhite5100
@walterwhite5100 2 месяца назад
Thank you for a great tutorial this was a blast to make I'm definitely making this one again. I used caron cotton funnel cakes and a 5mm hook has a nice drape and so soft.
@palomamiyaya
@palomamiyaya Месяц назад
As a self taught crocheter that i have been since i was a child ( 63 years old now), and i could never understand those crochet patterns, now that I saw your channel and see how you read the old patterns and try to understand them I now Am open maybe to try to do something following one simple pattern. Maybe. I am a free spirit and do my own things so it is going to be hard for me to stick to do something different. Also my mother tongue is Spanish, so is a challenge. You explain so well and you are so easy to understand , thanks.
@k_pufflz
@k_pufflz 2 месяца назад
7:15 I believe the pattern was saying the first true treble and second treble (where you placed it) vs between the chain and the first treble stitch! That’s how I interpreted it Also love you working this how you want to! We know the people 133 years ago were doing their favorite methods and shortcuts going off pattern so why can’t you
@lindapost3954
@lindapost3954 Месяц назад
Both are very pretty Well done.. Thanks for the video.
@devils.advocate2354
@devils.advocate2354 2 месяца назад
17:52 🐾🧡 hello and belly scratches back at you Merlin. Beautiful shawl. Definitely will try with larger hook and yarn.
@RJ-cy7kn
@RJ-cy7kn 2 месяца назад
Merlin always startles me lol
@helenroberts5012
@helenroberts5012 2 месяца назад
Loving the stacked dc
@debbienewton909
@debbienewton909 2 месяца назад
That's beautiful!! Great job!!
@carriematynka4942
@carriematynka4942 2 месяца назад
This is just absolutely beautiful!!!
@karenashworth5743
@karenashworth5743 2 месяца назад
When I was 16 years old, my mum picked up an extremely rare virus which left her paralysed in her right arm. Long story short part of her rehabilitation was learning to crochet. The first thing she made was a shawl for 52:45 to wear with the dress I had made to wear to a party. I still have it 40 years later , it hasn't been worn for a long time but I will never part with it x
@eileenlynch6896
@eileenlynch6896 2 месяца назад
What a beautiful border ❤
@chriscavy
@chriscavy 2 месяца назад
Very cute! And I love that yarn
@maryannraley
@maryannraley 2 месяца назад
I think it says "between the first and second" treble stitches because the first "stitch" of the group is your starting chain (or stacked stitches - stick to your guns, girl!). That way "between the first and second" is actually in the middle of the group. This is a gorgeous pattern!
@jenreeves7684
@jenreeves7684 2 месяца назад
This is so pretty. Great job 😊
@tinamarinelli4325
@tinamarinelli4325 2 месяца назад
I prefer your edge looks so pretty
@monicabaker5456
@monicabaker5456 2 месяца назад
So pretty!!❤❤
@Ebostic711
@Ebostic711 2 месяца назад
I can't thank you enough for doing these!!!❤❤❤❤
@stevejacques6585
@stevejacques6585 2 месяца назад
Nice very nice love the bordering thanks for sharing 😊❤
@kayceegreer4418
@kayceegreer4418 2 месяца назад
Fantastic
@conniearancivia7599
@conniearancivia7599 2 месяца назад
What a beautiful shawl. The blue one looks like it would be so cozy to lounge in.
@thelibraryismyhappyplace1618
@thelibraryismyhappyplace1618 2 месяца назад
32:29 the repeat starts with the 4 chain and dc, so all but the last long treble should have a picot, for a total of 5 picots. 42:42 with 5 picots you would be able to do it 4 times
@txnightowl73
@txnightowl73 Месяц назад
I was watching this video again and thought to myself “is this book really that expensive?” So I googled it just now and found it on eBay for way less than what you said. After tax and shipping, it was just under $60. Needless to say I’ll have my own copy of this book before the week is over!
@leereadman9069
@leereadman9069 9 дней назад
thats beautiful thankyou
@roxann_bam
@roxann_bam 2 месяца назад
So pretty! I've been looking for a new border for a baby blanket I'm working. This one will be perfect. Thank you.
@DLRyoung
@DLRyoung 2 месяца назад
Beautiful! Don’t let others get you down! I love this stuff and you go girl! God bless
@roserenik6375
@roserenik6375 2 месяца назад
It is beautiful love this tutorial, maby will make this.
@justvintagecrochet
@justvintagecrochet 2 месяца назад
Thank you! 😊
@fieldhouse2162
@fieldhouse2162 2 месяца назад
Way to go, Corinna! Keep those mystery patterns coming, I really enjoy watching them unfold as you follow the hard to understand directions! Also, please thank your son for all of his hard work that allows us to have so much fun! 😊❤ Jesus loves you ❤ Helen
@susanfrederick33
@susanfrederick33 2 месяца назад
Love this one Corrina ❤❤❤🇦🇺
@LaurieMcKee-pc7pc
@LaurieMcKee-pc7pc 2 месяца назад
Yeah! Anew mystery!
@madewithloveandfibres1816
@madewithloveandfibres1816 2 месяца назад
Oh this is lovely. I wasn't totally sold on this stitch for a shawl initially but when I saw your fluffy brushed version, it won me over completely. I love the other one now it has the edging too!
@brendawitters421
@brendawitters421 2 месяца назад
Did you notice that you said shawl when doing the first round of the boarder....haha oopps someone forgot that word.... Love it.
@avg4015
@avg4015 2 месяца назад
Every crochet person with some experience will develop a personal style. That doesn't take anything away from the mystery pattern as a whole. So just use your style and let the few negative voices yell in the void. 😉
@Summerrainfalling
@Summerrainfalling 2 месяца назад
Hell yes Corinna, we love to see you do what you want! 😍I don't understand these "omg you went off pattern" people at all. I think they need to touch grass. 🤷
@micheleb3881
@micheleb3881 2 месяца назад
Did anyone else catch that the sides are supposed to be double crochet and just the corner stitches are trebles? I think that would help if he a little more square. But no bother! It turned out beautiful as always!!
@debbienewton909
@debbienewton909 2 месяца назад
That's what I was wondering when the pattern said treble and then long treble.
@sidmelucci3675
@sidmelucci3675 2 месяца назад
I was wondering about that myself. But I couldn't read the instructions on my phone. I think I'll mosey on over to Corinna's Etsy shop and pick up the pattern.
@natc7724
@natc7724 2 месяца назад
28:30 “corner of the shawl” lol
@kimwallace5729
@kimwallace5729 2 месяца назад
I am fairly new here and love these antique patterns you try out. I want to make some around 1880s doily pattern for the top of my 1880s drawers and You have inspired me to try a doily patterh I found from the mid 1800s. it is a tad confusing but fun. I have a quick question what is this mysterious book that people are selling for such an high price? I felt some of my Scottish ancestry jumped in shock at those prices you mentioned.
@naomis2
@naomis2 2 месяца назад
I hear your secretary is back for the summer 😂😂😂😂
@naomis2
@naomis2 2 месяца назад
(I had previously mentioned the sound of your AC sounds like someone on a typewriter)😂
@jaynnnewell4722
@jaynnnewell4722 2 месяца назад
I think one thing confusing you if that you’re counting your chain/stacked singles as a treble and the pattern isn’t. So it says to slip past the first treble, which puts you in the middle of that group of four because the first “stitch” isn’t a stitch, it’s a chain. You’re counting that first group as 1-2-3-4 trebles, but it’s actually 0-1-2-3 the way the pattern is referring to it.
@thelibraryismyhappyplace1618
@thelibraryismyhappyplace1618 2 месяца назад
17:00 what they are saying is that the 5 chain counts as the first long treble of the group. They are not saying that the slip stitch counts as 1 of the 5 chain
@codenameg-fox2251
@codenameg-fox2251 2 месяца назад
wonderful hearing you make the pattern the way you want to! I wonder if round 3 was supposed to start with turning your work and going back into the corner you had just finished? edit: or they just missed the slip over instructions in that row! at least the repeat had them :)
@thelibraryismyhappyplace1618
@thelibraryismyhappyplace1618 2 месяца назад
The first words of the 3rd round are to slip over the first treble, in other words, you would have ended the previous round by joining into the top of your 5 chain, then slip stitch over the treble, putting you in the middle of the group.
@lisawest7002
@lisawest7002 2 месяца назад
❤❤❤
@shebangsdrums5601
@shebangsdrums5601 2 месяца назад
Just found your channel. Love it! I'm after binge watching 4 of them already this morning 🙈 Do you have an Instagram page? I can't seem to find it
@Sassygrannyvlogs
@Sassygrannyvlogs 2 месяца назад
💟
@crazyjchapstar
@crazyjchapstar 2 месяца назад
I love these videos. But can I ask what happened to your destashing video? I was in the middle of watching it and was gonna come back to it and now I can't find it!
@maryshayka3511
@maryshayka3511 2 месяца назад
I watch this whole video and would like to know how can a square be a shawl I been crocheting over 30 yesrs
@justvintagecrochet
@justvintagecrochet 2 месяца назад
as I show at the end , you fold it, hold it in a diamond shape and fold it , it creates a triangle
@Fluttermoth
@Fluttermoth 2 месяца назад
This was such an enjoyable video, thank you so much, but I have a burning need to mention a couple of things.. all right, three things :) 1 Whoever decided that the US and the UK needed different crochet terms, I curse you to the end of time, you've made everything twice as hard for us all :*( 2 The Victorian era was the first age of mass, cheap printing, they were NOT good at testing and proof reading! Even Mrs Beeton's contains some absolute howlers, it's perfectly normal for you to have to bodge a few things! 3 I know it wouldn't make for good videos, but it was drummed into us as youngsters that you read ALL the instructions, all the way to the end, before you start :)
@melodied4314
@melodied4314 2 месяца назад
Lovely old pattern. I would think most of us make modifications to recipes, sewing patterns, dance steps, hair cuts, and so on, to fit our taste or to incorporate shortcuts or new methods. So why shouldnt we make mods and/or adjustments to old crochet patterns?
@michellenash6802
@michellenash6802 2 месяца назад
Hey Corinne you didn’t link your other channel, like you mentioned...just FYI
@justvintagecrochet
@justvintagecrochet 2 месяца назад
Oh, you are right, Im sorry, here is that link , Thanks for letting me know ru-vid.com/show-UCiHzLxbyweMqSkkPyF1_1Ow
@kymberlys
@kymberlys 2 месяца назад
I think what was confusing you at the beginning of the rounds was that they weren't considering the starting chain as a stitch. When they said "between the 1st and 2nd" but it was in the center of a group of 4, they meant the 1st actual treble, not counting the starting chain as a stitch. It is indeed confusing!
@hyperfixationheaven
@hyperfixationheaven 2 месяца назад
Is no one gonna mention the two doubles she did in the second group on the first round? 😭
@rayaalnakeeb3380
@rayaalnakeeb3380 2 месяца назад
🎉❤❤❤❤
@GodsOath_com
@GodsOath_com 2 месяца назад
Is there a name for this yarn?
@itkurama8982
@itkurama8982 2 месяца назад
Unter welchem Namen werde ich Dich zukünftig finden ?Liebe Grüße
@Padraigp
@Padraigp Месяц назад
I feel like id have understood that juet the same if it was in martiann as i understood it. What the avtual what! 😂
@maryshayka3511
@maryshayka3511 2 месяца назад
What is it
@judygiesbrecht8297
@judygiesbrecht8297 2 месяца назад
A shawl.
@CherryBerry48
@CherryBerry48 Месяц назад
i would not be able follow that paper pattern, it would end up with a huge mess
@koshka.2000
@koshka.2000 2 месяца назад
These are not parentheses, these are quotation marks. (parenthesis) "quotation marks".
@justvintagecrochet
@justvintagecrochet 2 месяца назад
it was just a mis-speak.... it happens, if you watch my other videos I do know the difference
@koshka.2000
@koshka.2000 2 месяца назад
@@justvintagecrochet Hi Corinna, Unfortunately, I am an English teacher and I can't help it. I can be pedantic sometimes. We all make mistakes even myself. I adore your videos and I am half way through the 1970s blanket/bed cover you presented 2 weeks ago. Thank you for your hard work and your enthusiasm. 😀
@handmadeschwan
@handmadeschwan 2 месяца назад
I think there were a couple of things you missunderstood in the pattern and thats why it seemed confusing at some points. When it says to slip over the first treble and crocheting between the first and second, they did mean the middle of the group of four, since the first stitch of the group isnt actually a treble, its a chain. So they DO mean between the first and second ACTUAL TREBLE. and then further in the pattern I believe its round 4 when it says the chain counts as one they dont mean the slip stitch counts as one of the 5 chains, they mean the first stitch of the group of four, which is a chain (chain of 5 but it creates a "chain") counts as one of the group and to crochet in the middle of the group of four, counting the chain(of 5) as one of them
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