Place : The Factory, NYC Date : Jan. 03 1966 Source : All Tomorrows Parties bootleg Tracks used : Day Tripper Intro To Boom Boom Boom Instrumental & Rockabilly Instrumental
Well I mean this is the only song by them worth a damn. This, Norwegian Wood, Day in the Life, While my Guitar Weeps, I am the Walrus are pretty good songs by them. I'm not a huge fan, matter of fact I think Beatles suck, but those are some good songs by them.
Lou Reed was always pushing it while still more than happy to mine the past. I don't think that he ever thought that a song was ever totally done. Sometimes he'd get close to murdering his own compositions but isn't that where the true magic lives? Taking it to and beyond the limit is the opposite of bland.
Yea he never wanted to do the same thing more than a few times. Even going as far as throwing out what made a song great on the record for a live performance. he was like a jazz player in that respect. sometimes he would strike gold and make it sound better than the record.
Beatles, the band loved by millions, themselves inspired by 100 bands...The Velvet, a band not popular but somehow inspired 10,000 bands to come. They are two different stories an cannot compare as such.
I think john cale once said that rubber soul inspired him and lou when they were forming velvet underground . Mostly their use of sitar in norwegian wood . I think it gave them the feeling that the scene of mainstream music is changing and in a good way .
It is funny that when the Beatles were writing "Cant Buy Me Love" Lou is over here writing songs like Heroin...Lou is the best of the best of the very very!
Lou didn't write Heroin in Jan 1964. Probably still at Syracuse Univ. Rubber Soul was a pot album released in DEC 1965. I think the Beatles recording Tomorrow Never Knows in April 1966 - more around Lou's Velvet days
the beatles and the velvet underground weren't as far away lyric wise as many think, in 1966 the beatle recorded revolver while the velvet underground was recording "The Velvet Underground and Nico" and they hold a lot of lyrical similarities. Doctor Robert was about a person John Lennon was buying drugs from similar to I'm waiting for my man. She said She said is about an acid trip when somebody explained what it was like to die to john, tomorrow never knows is inspired from the book the Tibetan book of the dead. People like to think the beatles and the underground were years apart but they forget that the beatles love song period was from around 1962-1965 I'd say ending with Rubber Soul.
without John Cale there would not be a VU as we know it -----or at all -----cale bought english folk as well as art to lou reed ------cales say -i spent over 12 months teach them 'drone-- we never played live - we just worked on our art-- we got the Beatles -we got their records soon as they came out ------in fact we wanted ' Brian espstien to manage us -and we gave him a copy of 'nico &vu in a taxi ride in nyc 1966.. but eppi was so out of it on drugs .. he said yeah great -ill take it bk to england .. but he poss just left in the street -he was eight miles high .. and we never heard from him -lou wanted to be with Epstien
So, the V.U.'s Third and Fourth Albums do not exist, then? According to your Pronouncement, Then? I'm sure that they do. But people only hear, what they want, and dis-regard Social Science and any facts of the matter.
o yeah. its cool because you can hear Lou's guitar start to wash with effects, then he starts going crazy on the solo, just off the damn rails. But then, they land on the 4 at some point...the solo kinda calls for a second listen
To compare VU to The Beatles is like trying to compare Bob Dylan to The Rolling Stones or Water to Wine. Impossible. Everything has its place, its values, and its pleasures. I just feel lucky to be here at this time and be able to love them all.
There was that dark vibe even when they were playing other people's music and a jam uniquely their own.They weren't The Allman Brothers but they had a pretty compelling style. Priceless.
Dickey Betts actually punched Lou in the face as i read in the somewhat recent biography about lou. At some type of party fundraiser thing. no clue if lou was able to get one in on him lol
What are you talking about they didn't steal it from watch your step because that riff isn't in watch your step. He plays a blues lick which sounds like the riff played really fast but it's just a blues lick.
I agree man. He did not like the Beatles - he was adamant about that. I believe you speak the truth. Those British groups stole so much from the Americans just like Lou said...
@@clc-gl4jn I like The Beatles, The Velvet Underground and Bobby Parker I'm not just a Beatles fan. I'm just saying the riff from Daytripper is an arpeggiated blues lick that Watch Your Step happened to use once in it's opening. It's that simple.
@@clc-gl4jn If you really think that Lou Reed actually hated The Beatles then you seem to miss Lou Reed's sarcastic personality entirely. He loved to mess with reporters/interviewers and would lie to and say contradictive/controversial things just to get a reaction out of them.
I suspect that The Beatles' "Day Tripper" was written about Edie Sedgwick. It is similar in theme to "Femme Fatale." Maybe that explains why The Velvet Underground jammed to it.
even tho it says rare Velvet Underground in big letters, sounds just like them, and to yr right r lots of VU uploads, comments still asking if this is VU, no its Justin Beiber....duh.
Proof that not every bootleg is a cheap rip off. Proof that Lou started out with some talent but in need of direction and a cause. Here he sounds like a thousand other guitarists, jamming and concentrating on getting song right...yet every now and then he allows that inner beast to sun itself for a while. The finger picking is reminiscent of demos such as 'Row the boat ashore'. But this is heavier/deeper...definite hints at what was to follow. In, short, this is worthy of a place on any VU retrospective...as long as it's 5 or more discs long!
This is so much better than the Beatles , they could only dream about this sound. The VU make it there own sound. Now you understand why Lou didn’t like the Beatles.
John Lennon definitely could’ve done something similar to this. Matter of fact, check out Yoko Ono and John Lennon’s song “Why” off the Album Yoko Ono/Plastic Ono Band.
PS: HAVE t. Another reviewer claimed to have been a huge Reed fan from the beginning. He went on to disparage Cale and Nico's contributions as worthless. What an idiotic thing to say...Reed needed Cale every bit as much as Cale needed Reed. Some of Reed's greatest songs ONLY work because of Nico...and only Cale managed to recreate her spirit. HOW can some people be so dumb?
Thie song has nothing to do with day tripper, nor the guitar line, rhythm, nothing. Its just a 12 bars structure used in many songs like chuck berry, elvis or the beatles. I like it anyway, specially that characteristic velvet sound
+andyinoregon Actually Lou Reed said he despised all his contemporaries apart from Roger McGuinn. He also had a strong Bob Dylan influence as heard on the demo tapes.
No, they definitely would have existed without them. Lou brought early rock and roll/doo-wop, pop and Dylan influence, with an experimental bent, and Cale brought the avant-garde/way more experiemental part, Mo the minimalist drumming, Sterling the master guitar work. Other than that few seconds of guitar, I don't think there's much Beatles influence in their work. They stand head and shoulders above the Beatles.
I'm sorry, but my high school garage band was better than this. And I'm someone who bought The Velvet Underground & Nico when it came out in '67. I was 16.
