Ratchet is voiced by a legendary Star Trek actor, who has made multiple characters legendary!! Mr. Jeffery Combs! Commander Shran, The Weyoun clones, Brunt FCA!, Krem the Ferengi, etc!!!! I would know that voice anywhere!
@@emperorconstantine1.361 Dude I had just been on a DS9 clips binge lately and couldn't put my finger on why the voice actor sounded so familiar! This portrayal reminds me of his role as The Question in Justice League: Unlimited.
Finally a show that shows Megatrons more political side. He's not just a warrior and evil. You don't get a devoted following without words of grandeur.
A gladiator turned revolutionary who made very good points and was sympathetic he strived to make a better future for Cybertron the council was truly corrupt and had to be removed megatron wasn't wrong millions of years of war turned him into what he was
@@Darth-vade123 It is very interesting looking into Cybertron's history during the Age of Rust and seeing that the sides that made up the Autobots and Decepticons were essentially reversed before the war. With most of those that came to make the Autobot ranks being richer, naïve and unaware of the suffering their government was enforcing upon those who eventually became Decepticons. Where as those who became Decepticons were slave miners, some turned gladiators of Kaon and other Southern cities - having to fight against everyone to just survive The Decepticons were the resistance against a corrupt government, but during the war the Megatron indeed changed and lost sight of his original cause, and became the very corruption he swore to tear down. Leading to the Autobots becoming a resistance against a tyrannical military force The history of Cybertron's conflicts as a whole (Primus vs Unicron, the conflict between Megatronus and the other Primes, Optimus and Megatron) is incredibly interesting in it's repetition of ideologies and influences for either side
@@EquinoxxxxxxxxxMegatron's cause was not evil in the beginning he was trying to help but corruption and millena of conflict lead him to become what he is
This Megatron has to be by far the BEST version! Strong, smart, and intimidating all at once, with a very well written backstory and also voiced by the OG Megatron.
How I love fact frank welker voice as megatron is when it deepest strongest most intimidating and chilling it even better than he did in original transformers series or any media he where he reprise megatron
I always liked Megatron as both a character and a villain. Most villains are victims of their circumstances, meanwhile Megatron is tyrannical and destructive, and he embraces it.
His honesty applies in situations where deception would prove fruitless. He very seldom tries to deceive Autobots, as they know that any promise of 'good' from Megatron's mouth would be folly. Ironically, that brutal honesty for the Autobits has always worked.
I always loved how, despite being a kids show, TFP did a good job of presenting the Decepticons as an actual military force, with its own history, goals, internal structure, military strategy and chain of command. Plus it really conveys Megatron’s skill as both a general and an orator; both key assets of an ambitious tyrant...
That’s one of the best things about this show, it holds a lot of mature and intelligent writing and themes, it’s these things in some cartoons that make them stand the test of time as you grow up. While as a kid it’s mainly the giant robots, comedy and action that mainly grabs your interest, it’s the other things I listed that KEEPS your interest
the fact that Megatron is being completely honest with Ratchet as well as giving him time and space just shows how much things mean to him. This reminds me of the early Marvel comics with these two being fused and forced to work together.
I respect that I would hate him for it but I would at least know that even if he kills me and he brings life back to Cybertron other will stop him if not Optimus
It’s better to have someone that tells you right in your face that they hate you than to have someone pretend to be your friend only to stab you when your back is turned.
He knows full well that even if he tried to feed Ratchet some bologna, Ratchet wouldn’t buy it for a second, and all it would do is make him less likely to cooperate. Brutal honesty based on a mutual desire would be most effective in getting Ratchet to help out.
Love how involved Ratchet was in this show, despite not being in action much his character was so well defined and had unique challenges and development. Easily my favourite version of the character
Absolutely. I loved the dialogue in this episode between Megatron and Ratchet. Full display of Megatron's intelligence and decision making. He is not simply a brute. That's the best part. This is one of those few instances where you see why Megatron is the rightful leader of the Decepticons.
Ratchet: Megatron you would just try conquer Cybertron all over again and enslave anyone who refuses to pledge allegiance to you! Megatron: Of course I would!
One thing of particular interest for me in this scene is Ratchet bringing up Megatron's brutality against Bumblebee, rather than mentioning the death of many other comrades. It goes to show how traumatized Ratchet was by that particular act, and his inability to reverse it. We all have some 'less' relevant memories that leave great impacts on our characters, and having understood that long ago, that line hit me differently than the rest of this brilliant scene.
I think that the death of millions of cybertronians is more devastating than Bee's voice box. At least Bee is alive and well now. What about those who didn't want to become one with the all spark so early?
@@alexale5488 I think he still cares for those who lost their lives but from what I understand of Bumble Bee or B137 he was the equivalent of a 17 year old teenager joining a war and seeing how close he was with Optimus he could've bounded with Ratchet which could've made it more tragic to see this young idealistic kid get brutalized for standing his ground and to protect his friends.
The conversation between Megatron and Ratchet is so well written! It's so wicked of how Megatron tries to appease to Ratchet's better nature in needing his help to restore Cybertron, though the Autobot knows the Decepticon so well after being the one responsible for the war in the first place, as well as responsible for any sadistic crimes.
I love how Megatron is smart enough to know that Ratchet won’t fall for any deceptions, so instead of wasting time trying to fool him into helping, he simply appeals to Ratchets wants that align with Megatron’s. Like Arcee put it: “brutal honesty from a Decepticon”
He does a damn good job. I however couldn't help but notice that Ratchets voice actor was Jeffrey Combs, aka Weyoun and Brunt in DS9 as well as Shran in Enterprise. One of the best and most prolific Star Trek actors.
Something I find fascinating about this show, and most Transformers content in general, is how personal the “war” feels. Everyone knows each other by name, and no one ever really uses titles unless it’s within their own ranks. Cliffjumper refers to Starscream, the second in command of the entire Decepticon army and his eventual killer, as Scream. Any autobot can have a civil conversation with the power hungry tyrant that heads the Decepticons if they stay alive long enough for him to calm down. Decepticons and Autobots can have rivalries with the opposing side. If anyone has respect for someone on the opposite side, it’s usually because of something that happened before or unrelated to the “war.”
At this point there aren't really a lot of simple foot soldiers left. Who remains of the Cybetronian race are the most resilient or simply the luckiest, of course they are known to each other.
Funny thing about that actually. You wouldn’t know it unless you looked into the history of before the war, but Shockwave was once a good friend of Bumblebee! They watched Megatron fight in the arena together. You wouldn’t think that due to how much older Shockwave seems compared to Bumblebee, but then you remember that they’re all thousands, possibly millions of years old
Megatron was always one of my favourite characters in TFP. The design as a villain, is so well done. He's intimidating, he's more than ready to join in a fight, intelligent and surprisingly actually has moral standards. Remember when Starscream fought Optimus and Starscream was about to finish him off but Megatron comes in at the last second. As Starscream said, Optimus is right there ready for the taking. The respect Megatron has for Optimus, and would rather fight him to the death himself than simply give the killing blow after someone else had done all the work. Means a lot
Pfft. That isn’t intelligence, that’s obsession. He may be a cunning and morally agreeable commander in other continuities, but in this one he’s….not. Sure, he’s intimidating, and knows how to manipulate people (see: Ratchet, Starscream, OP when he turned back to Orion Pax) but the combination of dark energon-induced blood craze and his obsession with OP leading him to literally follow him around when Megatron could do ANYTHING ELSE speaks volumes. Though you do make an excellent point when it comes to his design. 10/10, excellent villain dynamic.
The only way Optimus Prime dies is if Megatron kills him, according to Megatron. He'd never let anyone else do it, and tells all his forces that try that they're wasting their time. He's obsessive, like he is with Starscream, not intelligent. Besides Starscream, Megatron is the biggest reason the Decepticons haven't been victorious the entire show. One or both of them is constantly setting the others back. Megatron doesn't do countless things he should when he has the chance, all because of his own arrogance. He didn't kill Bumblebee, didn't kill Starscream, didn't kill Airachnid, killed Dreadwing instead of Starscream, killed off his own Predacon army, the list goes on. Buckethead is where he is because of pure power, and for some reason, he has the allegiance of people much smarter than he is (Soundwave and Shockwave).
I love when Megatron is shown to be brutally cunning and not just some brutish thug. Shows he not only has the strength to rule an army, but the intelligence to show why the war has gone on for so long.
@@ProtossTempest Translating what Megatron said into something more silly/understandable is wonderful, I wish RU-vid still had the public subtitles for something like this 😭
Megatron is a very smart politician, he conveys his attentions, however good or evil, says the truth no matter how bad it is, doesn't lie and still gets what he wants, (to an extent). Wish we had more politicians like him.
I just realized, the scenes where Megatron is showing Rachet all their stuff has a purpose. 1. Seeing the Cloaking System allows Rachet to shut it down in the next episode. 2. The Energon Conservation System brings up the line about Decepticon Engineering Megatron uses when Rachet sees the rebuilt Omega Lock. 3. The Quantum Inducer he sees in the lab is what Rachet uses as a distraction in the next Episode. This is well planned out storytelling and use of assets.
And The 4 Keepers Are Mentioned The Speed Planet The Beast Planet Gigantion And Earth Are The Keepers Of The Forest Key Giant Key Speed Key And Earth Key So I Would Like To See A Reference Of Vector Prime
What’s interesting is, despite all his antics, Megatron can actually be reasonable at times. He understood that the history between decepticons and autobots wasn’t exactly a pretty picture, but he also knew the fact of the matter was either he and Ratchet work together to fix Cybertron, or all the fighting would be pointless because it still be a lifeless planet at the end of it all. And who’s to say Megatron wouldn’t change? Perhaps he learned his lesson after seeing Cybertron die once after igniting the war. Why would he want to do it all over again?
As Optimus once said, while Megatron may not have straight-up repeated the war if Cybertron was restored, even in the best case scenario he’d waste no time portraying himself as Cybertron’s hero, and get all the Autobots arrested as war criminals.
Megatron knew that the only way to coerce Ratchet into doing what he wanted was not by force, for Ratchet is probably second only to Bumblebee in terms of loyalty to Optimus, but by taking advantage of his greatest passion: science. This is why the Decepticons practically worship him.
More than science, Megatron KNEW that Ratchet would be the one that wanted their homeworld restored most, to the point of forsaking his brethren and humans. Megatron always took initiative in knowing his enemies, and as one of his oldest adversaries, he knew Ratchet all too well.
What gets me more is that megatron practically made ratchet comply by allowing ratchet to break through, making himself vulnerable. It was the only way he had to be vulnerable around ratchet being clear and forward with it all whilst still letting him know that even if ratchets does this, there won’t be a change just a new opportunity for the both of them
Throughout the entire exchange, Megatron didn’t lie to Ratchet once. He knows trying to promise goodness to an Autobot as a Decepticon would be pointless, so instead of trying to appeal to Ratchet with morality, he instead appeals to him through methods he knows Ratchet can’t resist: scientific advancement and the promise of Cybertron’s revival. The writing of this show is phenomenal.
You can really see how Megatron managed to convince so many Cybertronians to follow in his cause, despite its insanity. His ability to get the Decepticons to believe whatever he said through his own twisted logic was conveyed beautifully. The writers did such a good job of showing why Megatron really was a scarily effective tyrant with such an unyielding following.
That’s what I like and why I prefer Prime and Armada over G1. But to be fair, G1 had some corny yet enjoyable chemistry-related labels and insults. Spike: Let go of me you beryllium buzzard! Megatron: Resist! Terminate them! Reduce them to Lithium Litter!!!
I believe this is really my favorite version of Megatron. He’s fleshed out, and his ability to be deceiving yet honest at the same time perfectly represents how he was as a politician, but I’m sure he was more honest and persuasive than deceitful. A warrior who gained respect through out his gladiator days. It’s even more exciting to believe he was extremely ambitious- he wanted to connected both Earth and Cybertron due to the link- and of course rule them as equals. It’s methods are surely wrong in order to complete such a task, but it’s interesting nonetheless. Equals meaning becoming connected, and ruled by his faction. I honestly don’t understand why people thought this Megatron was stupid during the time episodes were coming out. Sure there has been times where shit gets over his head, but the cons have had more wins than the bots for almost three seasons straight. Guy is clever, and they had to somehow beat him in anyway possible.
The writing here is superb. Megatron doesn’t insult Ratchet’s intelligent by being anything but brutally, devastatingly honest. And despite Ratchet knowing that Megatron will purposely misuse his technology and probably destroy him afterwards, can’t help but comply. To save his planet. Now THAT is a good villain. And I love how both sides can’t help but begrudgingly respect the other.
This show has shown me how good Megatron is. You can't get good villains who are leaders without them having both prowess, martial skill, and prowess. The honesty, and the sense that he accepts who he is and plays to both his rep and his opponents really shows how he works.
This is why I have a Hate/Love relationship with Megatron you hate him for what he is and what he's done but you have to love him for being upfront with truthful with his thoughts and intentions
1:06 the symbolism of Rachet always staying on the light, embracing it, while it can be the same said with Megatron embracing the darkness, and both of the characters justifying their actions/causes to fight or die for.
He focused on ratchets passion for science and engineering, barely needed to coerce him, he gave ratchet everything he needed, all he has to do was say yes.
3:15 love the honesty from Megatron. He knows exactly what he can believably offer. Gives just enough rope to let Ratchet think it's worth playing the game.
This is definitely (collectively) the most interesting talk between the factions in the show. Arguably the most honest Megatron has ever been (he knows he can't fool Ratchet anyway, and doesn't even try), and Ratchet commits to wanting Cybertron revived, even if he has to get his hands dirty to do it. The only way to save Cybertron would be for the factions to unite their forces, in some manner. Very cool.
Transformers Prime is literally a love Letter to the original series from the 80s. Not only that, it brought us a more cunning and ruthless version of Megatron voiced by Frank Welker himself, but also the best version of Optimus Prime that was absolutely Robust.
I just love that Megatron was actually HONEST with Ratchet, he might not survive but thanks to him Cybertron could be back alive, the acting here was just superb, both Frank Welker and Jeffrey Combs both killed in these conversation, fantastic work by the actors and animators, man I love Prime so much.
This series reminds me alot of Avatar The Last Airbender. Another animated series supported by brilliant writing chocked filled with complex themes, dark subjects,and nuances the suits well for audiences of all ages.
1:05 seeing ratchet in the light stepping away from it and towards megatron is the dark is great symbolism, that despite claiming to wish to use the synthetic energon for good, Megatron is as war hungry as ever and not to be trusted
Prime did an amazing job with the writing & voice acting of this Megatron, truly managed to give him the vibe of a majestic conquer that can be just as cunning as he is brutal.
The relationship between these two are so deep it constantly amazes me how this show really conveyed all the characters. I feel that instead of OP and Meg being the typical opposites, it’s actually Ratchet and Meg opposing one another. This is because Ratchet holds him solely accountable for destroying their home and for hurting Bumblebee (let’s be honest, he is a total dad to him). Probably the only 2 things he hates Meg for: being a person that kills while Ratchet tried his best to save others’ lives. I feel those sentiments are always shown in every continuity he has been in, within some form or another. I love this show.
The mixture of Megatron's honesty and deception with his adversaries depending on their intelligence is truly incredible. He is so amazingly evil, but at the same time he is honest and, to a degree, respectful to his adversaries
This is way megatron well always be my favorite villain because despite being evil he's still honest and some what respectfull to his enemies which is more than most villains can say about themselves
*"Oh you misunderstand dearest Ratchet. I intend to use your formula for the purpose of creation, not distraction"* ah there's the infamous politican Megsy
Just love this whole series, the characters were so well done, i especially love these scenes as the 2 of them don't talk nonesene they both know each other and know trying trick one another is pointless
This was such an underrated Megatron at the time. Rewatching this now shows me that TFP Megs was truly one of the best Megatron representations. Frank Welker at his finest
There will never be a show like this. So fun to watch, and yet so serious with all its storylines. Sometimes even cruel. It was a literate masterpiece, and I really doubt there will be another Transformers show like this.
Bear in mind, Megatron is the reason why Cybertron was devastated with him and the other decepticons poluting cybertrons core with Dark Energon in War for cybertron, so if Megatron were to restore cybertron, it would be deffinitley what Cybertron was owed.
People say Meg is evil and all, did they forgot Megatron was initially a mining robot, a lower class in a caste system? The system Cybertron had back then was basically if you're born in nobility, great! You're set for life. But if you're born into the ghetto? Sorry man guess you're stuck with crackheads and muggers for the rest of your life with no chance to rise. The reason Meg was angry when Orion Pax was chosen and not him is because Meg KNEW the council prefer some naive and soft-hearted idiot to be leader so they can still influence him, while if Meg becomes Prime he'll surely destroy the comfort life the council once had. A hard and brutish life taught Meg things aren't gifted, but rather earned. Optimus would never be able to change the system with just words. "Sometimes the good guys have to do bad things to make the bad guys pay"
Fr, Megs and Optimus came from two very different environments in Cybertronian society. One was a data clerk and the other was a gladiator that was highly respected by the same people in the same class as him. It's still important to note that Megs did end up losing his way when he started doing space crack tho
Wait wait, a miner? I think that's idw. If your talking about tfp's backstory, Megatron was showed as the gladiator :) The first 2 paragraphs are from idw. What you mean there is, Megatron was rejected for his speech (I don't remember what Ratchet said abt him though) meanwhile the council was moved away and inspired by Orion's words. Orion was only chosen as a Prime *for* his wise words, but Orion never had a choice to be a Prime, or decline the offer. Megatron *could* have been a Prime for his strength shown in his previous battles in the pit.
I may be slightly nostalgic for TFP because I grew up with it, but honest to God this is one of, if not THE, best versions of Megatron. He's physically imposing and unbeatable for anyone other than Prime, yet he's also on another intellectual level when it comes to deception/persuasion. You can almost be fooled into thinking he's a good guy with how logical his arguments are, yet you can just tell he's being completely dishonest the entire time. Its that slightly unhinged nature of, 'I know you know I'm bullshitting you, but will that do anything to stop you?' that gets me, the way Megatron's eyes go wide and he has that manic look to his face, of someone who is juuuuust about to tip over the edge into total insanity yet remains in control. Absolute favourite version of Megs by a long shot.
I like how megatron doesn't use insulting nicknames for autobots like a lot of villains do. He uses their names or gives them non-insulting nicknames, even if here he was just trynna oil ratchet up
This was the last good transformers series we had. I don't understand why hasbro went the ultra kiddy route with every series after this. The exception being earthrise trilogy but that series lacked depth. It felt like children trying to play grown up. Im hoping after earthspark we can get a more grounded mature series because this right here was some of the best writing in transformers history. The back and forth between megatron and ratchet is good I could listen to a 2 hour podcast of them going back and forth on different topics. Cant say that about many other transformers series.
Megatron and Ratchet having these great moments together reminds me of their interactions in the old Marvel comics as well. Here's hoping we can see some more fun scenes with them in the future.
